Pilot, Driving, Bike, Boat Schools Mod/Trainer

[***GTA*** 0]

I think about 80% off all requests in Save N Play for GTA SA are for schools. Mainly for Pilot and Driving. Those MISSIONS are real pain in the ass Unfortunately, there are no GOOD trainers or mods to help gamers with this problem. Pizzabox trainer only good when you are given a specific time to complete the mission and some mods like GTA Insanendreas 11 requires you to start new game and do not work with old saves. Can anyone make one to make our lives in San Andreas easier?!?

 

Any ideas and/or questions are welcome!

[Demarest 23]

1 This is Mission Coding. ANY mod we could exact would require you to start a new game.

 

2 There is a mod request forum for... um... requesting mods.

 

3 If starting over is such a big deal, play a smaller game. Like GTA3

[***GTA*** 0]

1 This is Mission Coding. ANY mod we could exact would require you to start a new game.

 

2 There is a mod request forum for... um... requesting mods.

 

3 If starting over is such a big deal, play a smaller game. Like GTA3

I am not requesting a mod as such for myself, but any ideas in creting a mod or a trainer that could help people who need help with schools in GTA SA. Dont make a mistake calling GTA3 a small game and as I clearly said, its not for me but for the benefit of the whole GTA community. If you would check Save N Play forum you would see that Helpers mainly spend their time doing schools, esspecially Pilot and Driving, again and again. Schools are the most common problem that many people find in GTA SA. I think schools aslo can be one of the reason why some gamers would think twice before playing it again, at least in near future. You misinterpreted my position and request, and if talking about smaller games I think TETRIS would be much more suitable to offer

 

GTA 3 is good game, but I would prefer Vice City. Luckily none of them had any schools as such The reason why I did not posted this as request in Mods Request forum, is that because a lot of people would not like start game from scratch at this stage when most of them are nearly at the end, and you said it yourself thats how the mods work START FROM THE SCRATCH and ther is already GTA Insanendreas 11 Mod avaliable. I simply asked for any sugestions or ideas that some one have or would like to use to create trainer or some kind of mod!

[Bigun 0]

Check out the 'f*ck school' mod by Viper187...

I also believe it does not make you start a new game because it doesn't alter the MAIN part. -Bigun

[Demarest 23]

Freak out much? I was teasing for the most part.

 

Doesn't matter who it's for, requests are requests. And you mentioned people don't like to start over. I'm a SCM coder. I already understand this. I wrote Timetwister and Timetwister VC so that people could have a foundation to test mods even on later missions without having to start over. As for the Save N Play, I am well aware of the usefulness it acts in terms of cursory data pertaining to who struggles where. I DID invent the service after all. Furthermore, no need to reiterate because I read it in your first post.

 

So it boils down to you're requesting a trainer to pass the schools. My first post stands.

 

Last but not least, I'm the biggest GTA3 freak you'll ever meet. When I called it small, I was hardly making a derogatory remark. Part of the reason I love GTA3 is it's replayability. I've got my 100% blitz run down to 8h 21m. I don't even find SA enjoyable because it's too freaking huge. So relax. We're here for the fun of it

[***GTA*** 0]

Freak out much? I was teasing for the most part.

 

Doesn't matter who it's for, requests are requests. And you mentioned people don't like to start over. I'm a SCM coder. I already understand this. I wrote Timetwister and Timetwister VC so that people could have a foundation to test mods even on later missions without having to start over. As for the Save N Play, I am well aware of the usefulness it acts in terms of cursory data pertaining to who struggles where. I DID invent the service after all. Furthermore, no need to reiterate because I read it in your first post.

 

So it boils down to you're requesting a trainer to pass the schools. My first post stands.

 

Last but not least, I'm the biggest GTA3 freak you'll ever meet. When I called it small, I was hardly making a derogatory remark. Part of the reason I love GTA3 is it's replayability. I've got my 100% blitz run down to 8h 21m. I don't even find SA enjoyable because it's too freaking huge. So relax. We're here for the fun of it

No worries

[***GTA*** 0]

Check out the 'f*ck school' mod by Viper187...

I also believe it does not make you start a new game because it doesn't alter the MAIN part. -Bigun

Cool thanks

[Bigun 0]

Ugh... (in addition to Dem)

 

1. You should of looked for it yourself before making a new thread.

 

2. This DOES belong in the request forum.

 

3. Edit your post instead of double-post... and if you want use

-Bigun

[Y_Less 1]

Ugh... (in addition to Dem)

 

1. You should of looked for it yourself before making a new thread.

 

2. This DOES belong in the request forum.

 

3. Edit your post instead of double-post... and if you want use

-Bigun

He didn't double-post. And if you can edit the school missions so you automatically pass them, but still keep them the same size (using NOPs and other padding OpCodes, jumped out soyou never reach them), then you will ba able to use save games on them and still have an easy ride. I would do it, but I don't have SA.

[ripple 1]

Incidentally, has anyone here tried the F*ck School mod? The one real feedback in the whole thread said it actually doesn't work beyond the driving school, and I haven't seen anyone incoporate this into their mods. I don't know....given how frustrating it is to try and get gold in all the schools, you'd think there would be a lot more mods that try to make it easier.

[Bigun 0]

Bronze is enough to go for 100%...

 

So if you want gold shouldn't you be a real perfectionist? Why cheat for it

 

And no, I haven't tried the F*ck School mod at all. The only way to be sure if it works for all schools is to try it..I'm not interested so I didnt bother -Bigun

[ripple 1]

Bronze is enough to go for 100%...

 

So if you want gold shouldn't you be a real perfectionist? Why cheat for it

 

And no, I haven't tried the F*ck School mod at all. The only way to be sure if it works for all schools is to try it..I'm not interested so I didnt bother -Bigun

Yes, but there are benefits to achieving gold, such as the type of vehicle that spawn outside of the schools.

[Bigun 0]

If you already cheat, you can use a car spawner trainer and top that completely...

I'm stricly against cheating, so meh, I don't really know what to say.

And I highlighted the "try it" part, yet you seem not to notice it.

-Bigun

[Demarest 23]

Bronze is enough to go for 100%...

 

So if you want gold shouldn't you be a real perfectionist? Why cheat for it

That's a REALLY good point.

 

Benefits? They're just cars. The only one that changes the game at all is the Hunter because now Vigilante is cake. Of course you get a Hunter in the storyline anyways, so it's not crucial.

 

I'm with Bigun on this one. You only need a bronze and only a couple of the tests are hard to get bronze in. Maybe people are just reaching too far. Hardly worth the uproar. BUT, if there is a demand for such mods, then I agree there should also be a supply. Unfortunately, here is STILL the coding section, so restarting is inherent. And if we're talking about people who want "the pretty cars" but not willing to struggle for it, I doubt they're up for restarting. Can't blame them. SA is too large to make modding fun

[Bigun 0]

I agree!

 

 

Can't blame them. SA is too large to make modding fun 

 

you gta3 freak -Bigun

[ripple 1]

I'll tell ya what I want

 

I have gotten gold in bike school (which was surprisingly easy), driving school, silver in boat school and bronze in flight school. Aside from bike school the other ones were just bloody frustrating (I think most GTA players are masochist ). Now, if someone can change it such that what is needed to get bronze is sufficient for a gold award, people would not have to alt-tab out of the game to fire up the car-spawner right?

 

Technically speaking, you still have to work for it, but once you get bronze you would get some really nice vehicles to choose from. I am not saying its terribly important, but it would nice Anyway, one can dream....

Edited July 22, 2005 by ripple

[Bigun 0]

Still no reason.

Getting Bronze isnt like working, its like eating a pie.

 

And open up Car Spawner beforehand instead of having to alt-tab out.

 

If you do something, do it till the end *cough* TC mods*cough*

[ripple 1]

Meh, yer just grouchy.

 

It's probably easier to just edit the scm and add spawn points for the vehicles outside of the schools. Nevertheless, I hate fly school...

[***GTA*** 0]

Again, I am not agreeing with you Demarest. You and Bigun missing the point. As ripple correctly noticed there are benefits when you get GOLD. Also everyone want GOLD in their schools for the same reason why people don’t want to be wasted or being busted for the sake of their game stats (check Save N Play requests). Also you just repeating my words about trouble restarting the whole SA is the problem, so who is DOUBLE posting now?!?

[San andreas master 0]

if you want to get gold that bad . . . do it the old way pick up the controls and bloody work for it!!! im in agreement with you bigun and demarest, sa is to big for mods unless gta is fully modded. i dont really play sa, i find mods install them and look for more rather than play?!?! am i crazy p.s i have beaten the game the honeset way 100% along with all gold medals no mods pure effort and hard work

Edited July 23, 2005 by San andreas master

[***GTA*** 0]

Read the fist comment. I already have GOLD in all schools, but 80% of gamers find it very difficult, just to help them out without doing missions for them

[Demarest 23]

Somebody get GTA some chill pills. I think the double post reference was in regards to the way that instead of saying everything you needed to in one post, you made it into two consecutive posts. No big deal either way.

 

When somebody makes a counterpoint, it doesn't mean they've neglected your point. It means they're providing another angle and you shouldn't take it personally. It is, after all, WHY two heads are better than one and the sole purpose of conversation to begin with. It IS true that it's often request in SNP. It IS true that it's not necessary for 100%. It IS true that the benefits are what's wanted. It IS true that those benefits aren't much different from the cars you jack the moment you start a new game.

 

Think about it. You're making your point by likening it to wanting a no kills/arrest claim. But what's the point of bragging rights if you yourself didn't do it? You're making your own counterpoint for us

[Y_Less 1]

Unfortunately, here is STILL the coding section, so restarting is inherent. And if we're talking about people who want "the pretty cars" but not willing to struggle for it, I doubt they're up for restarting. Can't blame them. SA is too large to make modding fun

You only need to restart if the MAIN section is altered. As long as you only alter the mission and ensure that your edits keep the mission size constant (which can be quite hard), so the mission declerations in MAIN aren't altered, a modified SCM will work on a save game.

[Demarest 23]

I tried correcting you on the same thing last week, so you know I already know that

 

In SA, they don't even have to stay the same size, do they? Aren't they all external? In 3/VC, they had to stay the same size because the addresses of later missions was already designated.

[Tecate 0]

San Andreas coding initializes and runs some external scripts for parachuting and basketball and other smaller things.

 

In this thread, you consistently made it sound like restarting is absolutely required. As y_less said to everybody else here, that is not the case.

[Y_Less 1]

I tried correcting you on the same thing last week, so you know I already know that

 

In SA, they don't even have to stay the same size, do they? Aren't they all external? In 3/VC, they had to stay the same size because the addresses of later missions was already designated.

You did? When? The only other time I mentioned this recently was on the last page of this topic, and as far as I can see that post seemed to go completely ignored.

 

Missions are not external, only some threads are.

[Demarest 23]

You did? When?

I don't know. You said restart was mandatory, I pointed out the exceptions, and you replied "that's why I said _______ " Forgive my lack of memory on the specifics.

 

 

Missions are not external, only some threads are.

Didn't know that. Thank you

[Y_Less 1]

Oh right, fair enough. Sorry.