peds

[MuT7]

will there be pedestrians? I've always wanted to wreak havoc with a friend.....unlike mta vc

[Hpz]

no

[Luke]

Where's the fun in running down fake people when you can run down real people who shout at you?

[poohead]

i think it could b fun, it would b like rampages, see who can kill the most peds

[Hpz]

Where's the fun in running down fake people when you can run down real people who shout at you?

Not getting pwned

[MuT7]

If there weren't peds, SA would be very empty, because most servers could probably host 10-20 max, imagine 20 people running around San Andreas, trying to find each other to kill

[fatcat92]

If there weren't peds, SA would be very empty, because most servers could probably host 10-20 max, imagine 20 people running around San Andreas, trying to find each other to kill

Yes, and in Vice it was also pretty empty with 10-20 people, I mean with MTAVC

[MuT7]

I played that too, and that was Vice City, it would be even emptier if it was in SA

[Deathspike]

I would love to see pets too, but there is a problem w/ bandwith for that

[BJack]

they have a plan for 100 players in SA with MMO

[MuT7]

100 people in one state? there must have been a nuclear attack

[snok3k]

plz make that mmo

[MuT7]

do you mean MMO or MMORPG?

[snok3k]

MMO man i think would be cool mode for multiplayer,but the idea of peds and cars its good idea too

Edited July 17, 2005 by snok3k

[Spooky]

We won't be having peds. At least, it isn't on the cards right now.

[Stevesim]

Whats up with not having peds? i have thought about it too, i can see where it could be extremely hard to do and how it could be simple.

 

Its hard, correct me if im wrong because of all the data from the peds have to be sent to all the players,

but why not mod it so that only the players that come in contact within a screen should get the same ped data or something.

because all that needs to be the same is the ped location data for that moment, for those players in contact. Otherwise the peds are just using the game engine when the players arent in contact.

 

Now would this really be hard to do?

Ive always wondered about this. GTA Multiplayer would be soo f**king awesome with all the things like peds and traffic combined with 2 real players blowing the sh*t out of eachother between them.

 

[njr1489]

Its all about the bandwitdh. Peds take up to much plus the other players, so that's a problem.

[Agret]

Bandwidth isn't much of a problem on a LAN. You could definately do it on the LAN

 

On the net you could use client prediction and re-sync the exact co-ordinates for the peds every so many seconds. It only has to do it in a radius directly surrounding the player. Ped's aren't very important though so the player should have option on his client to enable/disable them for him in case he has bad ping to server or his connection is slow.

[Spooky]

It's no good theorising how to do it, as we're not planning on doing it. Getting a good amount of players well sync'ed together is our plan in full, at the moment.

[njr1489]

SA-2P is trying to sync peds though. You should take a look and see if it interests you.

[Luke]

SA-2P is trying to sync peds though. You should take a look and see if it interests you.

Why is that relevant here? If we're able to sync enough players well then it should eliminate then there should be plenty players on screen at one time, and no need for peds.

[MuT7]

why is that relevant? read the title of this topic.....and clearly you haven't played MTA...or other multiplayer GTA that i don't know about......without peds in an entire state.....SA would be extremely empty....even with about a 100 people in one server

[Cam]

Once again, syncing peds is not a priority right now.

[MuT7]

i understand, im just telling the other guy....would you consider peds after SA-MP is released and running?

[Spooky]

We probably won't be adding peds at all. It seems like a waste of time and effort imo. Unless you're going for coop mode, they're really not needed. How many online action games have NPCs?

 

As for the state being too empty; the server operator will be able to confine the gameplay to a certain area.

[MuT7]

if there are no peds.....will there be some kinda "super server" where every player will connect to?

[f3llah1n]

if you want a 'super-server' where you presumably mean that every signle person playing the game will connect to, then im sore one of the developers will make this deal with you:

 

 

if you can find a computer with the hardware and a 4000GB connection that can hold thousands upon thousands of players with no lag, then Im sure someone would code your super server

 

 

 

and as for peds, I dont want them. it would be too easy just hide in with a big crowd and jump out and kill someone who runs past you. even with name tags and radar blips it would be too hard to find everyone

[as well as all the bandwidth and syncing issues involved with this]

[MuT7]

you don't understand how boring it is without peds......as for the super server, i knew it'd be impossible.....

[njr1489]

you don't understand how boring it is without peds......as for the super server, i knew it'd be impossible.....

You would want millions of peds in your way when your trying to kill someone? I wouldn't. You won't be bored as long as people are around you.

[MuT7]

what if you spawned in the middle of Bone County, when everyone else is in Ganton? At least peds could occupy you a bit