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San Andreas Gangs, Based on real gangs?

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DoubleOGJohnson

Grove Street Family facts:

 

We wear green, we are called "loccs", we flag to the leftside, we began 1969 in Ganton, we wear the number 7 for the letter "G". And our main enemie are the Ballas. Specifically the Rollin Hoes, Fronthards, Kilo Gays, and Nipple Drive Ballas.

 

 

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Skimask101
Grove Street Family facts:

 

We wear green, we are called "loccs", we flag to the leftside, we began 1969 in Ganton, we wear the number 7 for the letter "G". And our main enemie are the Ballas. Specifically the Rollin Hoes, Fronthards, Kilo Gays, and Nipple Drive Ballas.

lol!Nipple drive.

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aquateen87

i know grove st. is grape street

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SPAS_12
Grove Street Family facts:

 

We wear green, we are called "loccs", we flag to the leftside, we began 1969 in Ganton, we wear the number 7 for the letter "G". And our main enemie are the Ballas. Specifically the Rollin Hoes, Fronthards, Kilo Gays, and Nipple Drive Ballas.

f*ckIN LOL you wrote it yourself

anyway i think

GSF:Bloods/Slobz

Ballas:Crips/Crabz

 

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lil weasel

The Crips are a primarily, but not exclusively, African-American gang,

 

the Bloods are, various Hispanic street gangs.

 

For in-game purposes it is that simple.

Edited by lil weasel

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SPAS_12
The Crips are a primarily, but not exclusively, African-American gang,

 

the Bloods are, various Hispanic street gangs.

Bloods,crips are mostly afro-amarican some of them are also white,asian,hispanic,etc...

 

@DoubleOGJohnson:I siged yo' sh*t whit some changes. colgate.gif

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lloydo

Weren't these type of gangs only starting to appear arround this time on the West Coast, i know from Dr. Dre's biography that rap started to take shape very strongly in gangs, and most rappers had to be represented to be respected.

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Mz. Hazey

Itz to be debated. I think in a way they made them both have Blood/Crip features so it wouldn't be recognizable who was who and such for obvious gang affiliated reasons.

 

The facts are:

 

GSF: Wears flags to the left (Crip trait), says "cuz, loc, busta" (Crip trait), throws up B's (Blood trait), started as a defending gang on one block against a bigger gang taking over (Blood trait), live and started in Compton (Crip trait), have Ryder based on Eazy-E who was a Crip (Crip Trait).

 

Ballaz: Wear flags to right (Blood trait), throw up C's (Crip Trait), call themselves "relative" etc (Blood trait), wear purple (Crip trait/Grade Street), I honestly dunno....

 

They could legitamately b both, but it kind of seems GSF is the Bloods based on the fact they started on one block Grove Street very much like the Bloods started on Piru street.

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TRUGAMER
i know grove st. is grape street

How can grove st be grape st?

 

Grove st is in ganton (compton)

 

Grape st is in Watts...

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gang_criminal14

i think that grove st families are da Bloods cuz i saw a vedeo on youtube it was a pc version modded grove gangs wearing red...... and plus in real life the bloods started as da defending gang just like da groves

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Klax*187
Itz to be debated. I think in a way they made them both have Blood/Crip features so it wouldn't be recognizable who was who and such for obvious gang affiliated reasons.

 

The facts are:

 

GSF: Wears flags to the left (Crip trait), says "cuz, loc, busta" (Crip trait), throws up B's (Blood trait), started as a defending gang on one block against a bigger gang taking over (Blood trait), live and started in Compton (Crip trait), have Ryder based on Eazy-E who was a Crip (Crip Trait).

 

Ballaz: Wear flags to right (Blood trait), throw up C's (Crip Trait), call themselves "relative" etc (Blood trait), wear purple (Crip trait/Grade Street), I honestly dunno....

true facts !

 

I think Rockstar combined those facts so they cannot be sued (maybe) by some mothers or anybody out there who lives/lived in a hard US ghetto and lost a dear person due to gangs.

 

It would be frustrating for a mom in real life,to see her child playing on PC GTA SA and her husband (the kids father) died because he was a gangmember.

 

I also heard that the company (the name slips to me right now) who made the Call Of Duty series we're sued by war veterans because of the drama shown in their game / the images / etc. the people who really lived those moments think it's very wrong,bothers them,and think it's unfair to make money over the war.

 

Think about it,I think Rockstar created ballas and OGF because first of all,it's just a game.If they wanted to they could of done Bloods & Crips from the very start.no purple & green just straight blue & red...

No big deal,just change the colors,the gang names,and maybe the title (GTA California).

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Omnia sunt Communia

I always saw Grove Street as being San Andreas' answer to The Bloods and The Ballas being The Crips.

 

What about the other gangs though? The Vagos, Rifa and Aztecas? What about them?

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Klax*187

I think the Vagos are Latin Kings and the Varrio Aztecas are the 18th street gang.If you saw Colors with Sean Penn & Duvalle you can observe that their clothes look kinda the same (the colors and torso)

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iam'sink

if you search on UrbanDictionary most of the facts say that GSF is Crips and Bloods the Ballas are.

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Omnia sunt Communia
I think the Vagos are Latin Kings and the Varrio Aztecas are the 18th street gang.If you saw Colors with Sean Penn & Duvalle you can observe that their clothes look kinda the same (the colors and torso)

No Surenos? And who do the Rifa represent?

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Klax*187
I think the Vagos are Latin Kings and the Varrio Aztecas are the 18th street gang.If you saw Colors with Sean Penn & Duvalle you can observe that their clothes look kinda the same (the colors and torso)

No Surenos? And who do the Rifa represent?

maybe the Riffas are the Surenos I don't know...

 

I have no idea who the Riffas could be...

 

in Mz. Hazey's post you could see that rockstar combined elements from both bloods & crips gangs to create the Grove & Ballas...

 

so I think this is the case with the Vagos too...I don't really think that they are 100 % percent a copy of the Latin Kings gang...

 

I mean,by their color (yellow) and their tags,you think they are Latin Kings

 

But by the numerous barrios they control in SA,and their strength in gang wars I say that they are Surenos

 

 

Streetgangs:

 

There are about 500 Sureño Hispanic gangs in Los Angeles County representing over 50% of the gang memberbership. They are more geographically distributed throughout the region and are found in significant numbers in the San Fernando Valley, San Gabriel Valley, the Beach commmunities, Long Beach, Compton and South Los Angeles.

 

and we all know that they have a big turf near Ganton (Compton) , in Long Beach (Verona Beach zone),San Fernando Valley,San Gabriel Valley ( I think those "valleys" are located in the upper Los Santos,you know where you turn right when you are at the Jefferson Hotel)

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puffinslaughter

Here's what I think of what real gangs the GTA gangs are like. Most of my information is from Gangland, which is quite accurate.

 

GSF-Bloods

Ballas-Crips

Vagos-MS13

Aztecas-18th Street Gang

Rifa-Surenos

San Fierro Triads-Wo Hop Tong Triads

Da Nang Boys-Tiny Rascal Gang (A Cambodian gang in Southern California)

Sindacco Family-Gambino Family

Forelli Family-Lucchese Family

Leone Family-Genovese Family

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Carl Johnson...

grove street throws up the actual, true to life, blood gang signs, also the ballas hand signs are all taken from the crip signage.... wasnt there a thread about this with pics somewhere before?

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BabyBlue23

Grove Street: Piru, Blood.

Ballas: Crips

Rifa: Nortenos

Aztecas: Sureno

Vagos: Random Hispanic gang that doesnt claim Sur or Norte

 

My source: Life on the streets of inland empire, southern califas, southside fontana haha 909

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TECHN9CiAN

lol... why do people keep thinking the Families are bloods and Ballas are crips? and Ganton is not Compton! Visit CPT and Watts and you'll see what i mean. Watts also includes the are around south east los santos(watts towers & theater) & east idlewood(front yard). come to LA and compare and you'll see.

 

Also, people say that the families are the "defender" gang, like the bloods. WRONG in a way... yeah they're defending, but it's because the newer gang(ballas/bloods) is growing. pay attention and you'll realize where they say that the ballas are spreading and growing, like the bloods did. Families/crips are the original black gang.

and the families aren't throwin up b, they're throwin up bK (blood/balla killa) look and you'll see the 3 fingers up after the b. that's a K.

 

Vagos= maybe MS13 (Vagos can't be 18st because 18 is outnumbered in north LA. MS is the biggest in all North LA county)

Aztecas= South Side Florencia 13 (< first/original South LA gang. google if you care)

Rifa= Nortenos/ chapetes

Families= crips

ballas= bloods.

 

anybody from LA like me will agree with this... *Echo Park, West LA* ~213~

Edited by the7ftmidget

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TECHN9CiAN
Grove Street: Piru, Blood.

Ballas: Crips

Rifa: Nortenos

Aztecas: Sureno

Vagos: Random Hispanic gang that doesnt claim Sur or Norte

 

My source: Life on the streets of inland empire, southern califas, southside fontana haha 909

WTF? how can an I.E. fool speak for LA? f*ck that.

 

PS: VERDUGOS control the Inland Empire. f*ck Rivas and Fagtana.

 

Source: my family from WS San Bernardino AKA the 909's best.

 

ECHO PARK WS LOS ANGELESS13

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TGO

they are lime hood pirus look at thishttp://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=Post&CODE=08&f=94&t=288595&p=1058926813&st=0

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GTASAddict

EDIT: << 'new' topic Merged into existing topic >>

 

The cities are parodies of real cities, therefore, it is

my guess the gangs are supposed to be parodies of real gangs too. However, I cannot imagine a real gang wearing purple and I especially cannot imagine one wearing suspenders either. Can someone explain this phenomenon?

Edited by lil weasel

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dangr

user posted image

 

Bloods (Red) = Ballas (Purple)

Crips (Blues) = Grove Street Families (Green)

 

Suspenders were common back in 1990.

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Kaydee.

Not at all.

 

They parody real gangs but change their colors, this way nobody can be sure which gang they were based on.

Then the players begin speculations, and that's what Rockstar wants.

 

 

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lil weasel

This is an Olde Game.

Many questions can be answered with the FORUM TOOL: SEARCH.

Always SEARCH before making a ‘new’ topic.

If your SEARCH contains words of less than Four letters use Bing/GOOGLE.

 

Edited by lil weasel

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huevos_benedicto_180

I don't think they're supposed to be real life parodies...well, the Rifa anyway.

 

If they were to use real colours it would probably create a big hoopla, so in order to avoid this they probably had to use unconventional colours like purple.

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BabeRuth

The Vagos were based off the Latin Kings.

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DoubleOGJohnson

Let me say it like this, Grove Street Families is the generic term for the alliance representing all the green ragging gangs in LS. But in actuality all Grove Street hoods are Families, BUT not all Family hoods are Groves. Grove Street is Piru. Temple Drive and Seville are Bloods. Pirus are specifically Compton Bloods like Grove Street are Ganton Families. Temple Drives and Sevilles are not from Ganton so they are just Families.

 

Grove Street is where it started, but sets that arent based on Grove Street took the Grove out and just kept the Families. There's 7 Los Santos Families hoods in my game altogether, Neighborhood Grove Street (Ganton/Idlewood), Westside Grove Street (Verona Beach), Glen Park Families (Glen Park), BGS Families (Jefferson, Las Colinas, East LS), Temple Drive Families (Temple), and Seville Boulevard Families (Playa Del Seville). Only two of us kept the "GROVE STREET", everybody else just claim FAMILIES in their name. Everyone is Family, but not everyone is Grove. Like how every Piru is Blood, not every Blood is Piru.

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lil weasel

 

If they were to use real colours it would probably create a big hoopla, [...]

?... I don't think the 'Gangs' have registered ® their colours as a Trademark . Are they going to storm Rockstar?

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