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CheatingSoi

I dont know if I did something wrong but Lots of the commands dont work for me like locking a car or turning on the lights. When I do mission select it just goes to the first mission and the game eventually (wheather it be at startup or during gameplay) will freeze my computer and force me to shut down. I dont know if I did anything wrong but this mod seemed really fun and I really want to be able to use it to the full extent

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BMWPower

@Midnightz, thanks, i can't wait for the version. turn.gif

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asanovic7

If I understood correctly you are fighting it out and the mod is suffering.

Tomworld and midnightz, if you are still modding gtasa there is no point in fighting.

I hope I understood wrong..

I am sometimes "glued"..

 

Cheers!

 

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Deathdime

Honestly its not the first time I have seen this happen within a mod. Your always gonna have this kind of drama no matter what it is. It surprises me that half of the Oblivion Lost (stalker) team didnt just start to throw down and go med evil. All in all I hope you all luck.

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firestone

Can someone convert this code for tirefix for cleo ?

 

 

:TIREFIX03A4: name_thread 'TIREFIX' 0006: [email protected] = 0 // integer values 008A: $TIRECAR = [email protected] // integer values and handles :TIREFIX_100001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if AND0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 0038: $ONMISSION == 0 // integer values 00DF: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving84A7: not actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving_boat 84C8: not actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving_flying_vehicle 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_1003C0: $TIRECAR = actor $PLAYER_ACTOR car 0006: [email protected] = 0 // integer values :TIREFIX_200001: wait 0 ms 0441: [email protected] = car $TIRECAR model 00D6: if 0A01: [email protected]: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100006: [email protected] = 4 // integer values :TIREFIX_300006: [email protected] = 0 // integer values :TIREFIX_400001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if00DF: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if 8039: NOT [email protected] ==  1 // integer values004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if 001D: [email protected] > [email protected] // integer values 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_30 00D6: if 0496: tire [email protected] on_car $TIRECAR deflated 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_50 0002: jump @TIREFIX_60:TIREFIX_50000A: [email protected] += 1 // integer values 0002: jump @TIREFIX_40:TIREFIX_600001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if AND80DF: NOT actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving01C1: car $TIRECAR stopped 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_600657: car $TIRECAR open_component 1 :TIREFIX_700001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if AND80DF: NOT actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving8039: NOT [email protected] ==  1 // integer values004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if8039: NOT [email protected] ==  0 // integer values004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_9000D6: if8039: NOT [email protected] ==  1 // integer values004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_9200D6: if8039: NOT [email protected] ==  2 // integer values004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_9400D6: if8039: NOT [email protected] ==  3 // integer values004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_960002: jump @TIREFIX_30:TIREFIX_900007: [email protected] = -1.0 // floating-point values 0007: [email protected] = 2.0 // floating-point values 0002: jump @TIREFIX_104:TIREFIX_920007: [email protected] = -1.0 // floating-point values 0007: [email protected] = -2.0 // floating-point values 0002: jump @TIREFIX_104:TIREFIX_940007: [email protected] = 1.0 // floating-point values 0007: [email protected] = 2.0 // floating-point values 0002: jump @TIREFIX_104:TIREFIX_960007: [email protected] = 1.0 // floating-point values 0007: [email protected] = -2.0 // floating-point values 0002: jump @TIREFIX_104:TIREFIX_1040407: create_coordinate [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] from_car $TIRECAR offset [email protected] [email protected] -0.20407: create_coordinate [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] from_car $TIRECAR offset 0.0 -2.5 -0.3:TIREFIX_2000001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if80DF: NOT actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if 00FF: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR 1 [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] radius 1.5 1.5 1.0 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_200:TIREFIX_3000001: wait 0 ms 0247: request_model -16904ED: load_animation "BOMBER" 00D6: if AND 04EE: animation "BOMBER" loaded  0248: model -169 available004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_3000107: [email protected] = create_object -169 at [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]: object [email protected] scale_model 0.6 054C: use_GXT_table 'ZERO4' 03E5: text_box 'Z4_H13'  // Press ~k~~PED_FIREWEAPON~ to pick up object.08E9: set_object [email protected] liftable 1 0382: set_object [email protected] collision_detection 1 0392: object [email protected] toggle_in_moving_list 1 :TIREFIX_4000001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if 80DF: NOT actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if 0737: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR lifting_object [email protected] 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_40003E6: remove_text_box 095E: $TIRECAR 1 1 -1.0 :TIREFIX_5000001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if 80DF: NOT actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if AND8737: NOT actor $PLAYER_ACTOR lifting_object [email protected] 0597: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR crouching 00FF: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR 1 [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] radius 2.0 2.0 1.0 0471: unknown_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR near_object [email protected] radius 1.0 1.0 unknown 0 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_500:TIREFIX_6000001: wait 0 ms 01B4: set_player $PLAYER_CHAR frozen_state 0 0006: [email protected] = 0 // integer values 008A: $TIRFIX = [email protected] // integer values and handles 0014: $TIRFIX /= 100 // integer values 03C4: set_status_text_to $TIRFIX 1 'NUMBER'  // ~1~0605: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR perform_animation_sequence "BOM_PLANT_IN" from_file "BOMBER" 4.0 loop 0 0 0 0 -1 ms 0605: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR perform_animation_sequence "BOM_PLANT_LOOP" from_file "BOMBER" 4.0 loop 0 0 0 0 5000 ms 054C: use_GXT_table 'STEAL5'00BC: text_highpriority 'STL5_AC' 2000 ms 1  // ~z~Just about to fix the tires, should be back any minute.:TIREFIX_7000001: wait 0 ms 008A: $TIRFIX = [email protected] // integer values and handles 0014: $TIRFIX /= 100 // integer values 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if 0019: [email protected] > 5200 // integer values 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_700 0108: destroy_object [email protected]: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR perform_animation_sequence "BOM_PLANT_LOOP" from_file "BOMBER" 4.0 loop 0 0 0 0 5000 ms :TIREFIX_8000001: wait 0 ms 008A: $TIRFIX = [email protected] // integer values and handles 0014: $TIRFIX /= 100 // integer values 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if 0019: [email protected] > 10000 // integer values 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_800 0605: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR perform_animation_sequence "BOM_PLANT_CROUCH_OUT" from_file "BOMBER" 4.0 loop 0 0 0 0 -1 ms 01B4: set_player $PLAYER_CHAR frozen_state 1 0151: remove_status_text $TIRFIX 0699: $TIRECAR [email protected] 0006: [email protected] = 1 // integer values 0249: release_model -16904EF: release_animation "BOMBER" 0001: wait 0 ms 0002: jump @TIREFIX_900 :TIREFIX_9000001: wait 0 ms 00D6: if0256: player $PLAYER_CHAR defined 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if 00DF: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR driving004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if   0448: actor $PLAYER_ACTOR in_car $TIRECAR 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100000D6: if 8039: NOT [email protected] ==  1 // integer values004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_90000D6: if 03CA: object [email protected] exists 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_300108: destroy_object [email protected]: jump @TIREFIX_30 :TIREFIX_10000001: wait 0 ms00D6: if 056E: carcass_of_car $TIRECAR valid 8038: NOT $TIRECAR == 0 // integer values 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_110001C3: remove_references_to_car $TIRECAR // Like turning a car into any random car :TIREFIX_110000D6: if 03CA: object [email protected] exists 004D: jump_if_false @TIREFIX_100108: destroy_object [email protected]: jump @TIREFIX_10

 

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stanwooz94

hope you guys solve the fight and i wish you all luck with b2r v 0.4 biggrin.gif but if someone could say when the mod will be released i would be happy turn.gif will it bee this summer or on autumn.

 

srry for my bad english tounge2.gif

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Midnightz

There is no fighting or drama. I've already said what's going on (for your benefit) but if you're still confused, PM me and I will explain it more.

 

-Midnightz

 

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asanovic7

aha!

Tomoworld missed the credits.. Well, that is a bit annoying to say the least. That is hitting the pride and very bad offence. Nothing can resolve that other than a bare knuckle fight or a f..k. sigh.gif

 

Come on, apologize to each other, have children, be nice.

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i really like this smilie, it says alot..

Would like to hear tomworld point of view.

This is my opinion:

GTA4 sucks(because I can't play it and its on blurp) and sa makes me happy because shooting a cop is a serious offence.

No matter plenty of playeras are children grown up and not interested anymore. i am shure there is plenty of players like me.

I customized my character and he is one nasty piece of machine(chunkey with bad ass tattoos, it's not a racial thing, I just want to understand him biggrin.gif ). I like driving the cars, listen to music and having bjob from pedestrians.

And from reading your preview it could be interesting to download later versions..

 

Another thing:

 

Only thread I read is this: I remember when cns told to tomworld that he is a wacko because he kept this thread alive. Well, after all that work and years, would be stupid because of technicalities to make it slide away.. This mod adds a feeling of "reality" and that's why shooting a cop feels so real in the game.. suicidal.gif Because of this mod..

 

Cheers

 

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tomworld10

 

Hi,

 

 

Hey Midnigtz, I don't owe you anything, particularly serious apologies.

 

The conflict can easily be resolve it's all in your hands.

 

I'd like you to show me/us some of your work, you never wanted. You say B2R needs a team but you don't want to share your files with your potential teammates.

 

And please don't say B2R is an abandoned BETA mod. That's not true. And further more stop being acting like a boss saying it needs this and that, first because it's pissing me off, second because I'm here to have fun not, like at work, to have someone telling me do this, do that.

 

You always say that B2R doesn't have things that are needed, and always refers me as the owner, but please have enough guts and ask me directly to do it.

 

Again Midnightz it's all in your hands, you have to change your attitude, I won't work with selfish people that does everything on there own and never shows anything to it's workmates. Once you'll understand what working together means we'll get along all good.

 

 

Share you work and everything will be fine.

 

 

Have fun

 

PS : Are you still whining about credits ???? This is incredible, first all MY releases had proper credits, second since December's 18th 2007 there is a dedicated post for it. So please don't make people beleive I didn't because I always did.

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spaceeinstein

Who added the Give n Take mod into this mod? It was interesting that the problem existed since last year and it doesn't seem like anyone took a look at why there was a problem.

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Midnightz

tomworld10:

 

B2R is not in my hands - it is not my project. All I've done is help you. Feel free to browse this topic if your memory needs jogging.

 

Don't lie... I have tried working with you repeatedly and if I was lucky to get a reply, you never helped. I have told you about the B2R things I have not done yet and asked if you could do them - you refused. I have even posted here, "need help with blah..." You never replied. I've mostly had to figure these things out on my own and sometimes with the help of others. You call THAT teamwork?!? You have not worked on B2R 4.0 at all so why do you suddenly want teamwork now that it's in BETA testing... hmmm?!? Since when do I, as a B2R user, have a deadline on a personal project that I was asked to share anyway? People release files when they are comfortable with the quality of their code. What's comfortable for you is not what's comfortable for me.

 

You DO owe me an apology. Why: For swearing at and accusing me of the things you are guilty of. You do not have the right to demand anything from me and throw a tantrum when you don't get your way. You originally gave me permission to include your B2R mods in my version (4.0). But in your angry PM, you took away permission = I can't post it now. THAT is why I posted here and said, "I will release my mods elsewhere then." and "I may still help B2R users with the bugs."

 

If anyone's been selfish, it's YOU. You'd sooner sh*t all over the person who's been helping your project (me) and deny your B2R users the opportunity to have a bug-free B2R, than apologize and re-grant permission for use of your mods. You'd sooner ignore spaceeinstein's request for proper credits and call it whining than take the time to review the code and re-package the download with proper docs etc. It isn't my attitude that sucks, it's YOURS.

 

It won't hurt me if you don't re-grant permission - it will hurt your B2R users and you.

It won't hurt spaceeinstein if you don't inspect/correct the credits/download package - it will hurt the life of this B2R topic.

 

-Midnightz

 

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stan101

Hi everyone, I've been busy this Summer so I haven't been able to check out the forums.

 

@Midnightz: ... whatsthat.gif What you said about Tom was correct. nervous.gif

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tomworld10

 

Hi,

 

Midnightz it is in your hands, again all you have to do is to share your files.

 

 

All I've done is help you. Feel free to browse this topic if your memory needs jogging.

YOU'VE HELP ME ????? For what ????? Please show me because I don't recall, and further more I can't find anything like it.

 

 

Don't lie... I have tried working with you repeatedly and if I was lucky to get a reply...

You never sent me any line of code or any file. How can you say you tried and never sent any line of code. Yes I didn't reply all, I not your mum or dad there is things you had to learn by yourself, I can't teach you everything, particularly newbies questions. Neither, I didn't answer questions that were covered in the coding bible, because I'm not a repeating machine. And have you ever thought as well that if I don't reply, it might be because I just don't know ??

 

 

 

..., you never helped.

Hearing this hurts, hurts a lot. I spent hours answering most of your questions since the beginning, remember back then you didn't know how to code, and you ask me things about once or twice a week. As if I never gave you advices about coding, as if you never looked in the coding bible, as if I didn't help you since the start... The worst is that you start your sentence with "Don't lie....". It is just incredible how ungrateful you are.

 

 

 

You have not worked on B2R 4.0 at all so why do you suddenly want teamwork now that it's in BETA testing... hmmm?!?

Hang on, did you ask me about 4.0 ???? Is 4.0 my idea ??? Did you asked what I would put in next version ????

To all this the answer is no. 4.0 is all your thing, you did only what you wanted to and never ask me what I would do about it. It's YOUR idea, there is the feature YOU want in it, you NEVER implied me in this coding. You did everything on your own without sending anything, and now you said I didn't help.... You say it yourself...

 

a personal project

 

And actually saying I didn't worked on 4.0 is not true. First because I taught you coding (I know you will deny it but anyway), second because I've worked on the rollerblades, and third I did previous versions of B2R (trust me it does count)....

 

And what now it's beta testing ?????? You prove here that you don't want to work with me, you said you tried but now you prove that you actually never wanted to. Another proof that you never wanted to work with me, is that every time I ask you to share you're files you go flamming, here again. See, it is in beta state and I haven't seen any line of code yet. So you're fake excuse of "release files when they are comfortable with the quality of their code" doesn't work. And I didn't ask you to do release, I asked you to show/share your work with me.

 

 

 

You DO owe me an apology. Why: For swearing at and accusing me of the things you are guilty of.
What am I guilty of ???? I don't see anything I'm guilty of...

 

 

 

You do not have the right to demand anything from me
Well, actually, since like you say everywhere, it's my mod, I DO have the right to ask you to show me your files BEFORE you do a release, simply because it's my mod.

But you do have the right to refuse, as I have the right to take away my permission if you do refuse. Clear and simple.

 

 

 

If anyone's been selfish, it's YOU.
Why ??? I've always sent you my dev files, I always post new features code (and I even explain the code often), and you never ever did. And I'm the one selfish ????? Strange for my point of view.

I don't see why I'm so selfish, because all you say after this doesn't show I'm selfish. There is no arguments or proof about this in what's following. This hurts as well, being so selfish why would I have spent months writing coding bible, why would I have released all my source codes, why would I have helped newbies (like you were).... Ungrateful again.

 

 

 

You'd sooner sh*t all over the person who's been helping your project (me)
First, until you totally refuse to show your work, I never sh*t over you, you're just fantasizing here. Second and again, 4.0 is YOUR project, so you're not helping me, you're helping YOURSELF. It is a great difference.

 

 

 

deny your B2R users the opportunity to have a bug-free B2R
Hang on, you're the one who didn't want to share. We wouldn't have all this mess if you just shown me you're work. It would have been so easy. You didn't want to, so it's your, and only yours, fault. Don't blame me for this, blame yourself.

 

 

 

You'd sooner ignore spaceeinstein's request for proper credits and call it whining than take the time to review the code and re-package the download with proper docs etc.
You are the one who always whine about credit, it's you're request that I call whining not space's. And I think spaceeinstein's is big enough to talk for himself. Here you're just trying to make "It isn't my attitude that sucks, it's YOURS." credbile, but it doesn't work with me.

 

 

 

It won't hurt me if you don't re-grant permission - it will hurt your B2R users and you.
I know you just don't give a f*ck. I know as well that you're totally ungrateful to people that have created the mod and make it what it is today. And you're totally right say that it hurts me, it does hurts me, hurts me a lot. I'm sad having to take away my permission, but I have to.

 

One last time Midnightz all you have to do is to share your files, it is all in your hands, I wont regrant permission until you do. Anyway as there is my work in you're files, I can't let you release something with my name in it that I haven't seen, that should be obvious...

 

 

 

 

@spaceeinstein : Look at first post, I thought you could see this by yourself but thought. So, as you can see, cns added it to the mod. Since he did I don't know where he got the code from, and I thought he had the permission. This feature actually never worked for me, and back then nobody complained about it, so I thought it work for others. Back a long while ago I did had a look on it, and I didn't see anything wrong, so I just left it as it was. If you try cns B2R first version you'll see that the problem always existed.

 

 

Have fun

 

 

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Midnightz

tomworld10: I was willing to post my files for everyone to use but no, I won't just give them to you for personal use. I'm not sure which is bigger - your lies or your pride. I didn't flame you, you flamed me. Don't pretend to be hurt. You can't keep kicking me in the face and expect me to smile then ask how else I can assist you with B2R.

 

 

What am I guilty of ???? I don't see anything I'm guilty of...

Lots of things, unfortunately. You shouldn't talk to anyone the way you've been talking to me. "F--k you blah blah over and over" It's disrespectful and extremely immature. I told you NOT to talk to me until you apologized and can treat me with respect.

 

 

You never sent me any line of code or any file.

From my 4.0? Nope. Thanks for admitting you've had nothing to do with the development of it.

 

 

I spent hours

Last year, you referenced a few lines of your code but you toyed with and tested me which you even admitted doing. From the beginning I said, "I want to help... I'm learning as fast as I can." Did you expedite my learning? No - you HINDERED it by playing those headgames. That elitist bullsh*t is irritating and a complete waste of time - it doesn't help anyone.

 

I have ALWAYS treated you with respect. I've even backed you up when others gave you a hard time. I've publicly and privately praised your B2R mods and expressed my appreciation for the work you've done. What do you want - a throne and crown? *HERE* The King sits alone then. I think you seek admiration but that's not something you can demand from anyone.

 

You spent hours... I've spent MONTHS. The fact that I've been loyal to this topic (even after a death in my family), been consistently involved with the project, posted material in the past, researched and attained permission for mods to be included in B2R AND I'm hesitant to release something without making sure it's solid, should speak volumes to you, that what I'm doing is with honor, good intentions and I am trustworthy. It will be my 1st SCM+CLEO release, EXCUSE YOU - I would like to do it correctly. You don't see the value of these things or appreciate them - you can't even be respectful and THAT IS WHY I don't want to try working with you anymore.

 

 

Hang on, did you ask me about 4.0 ???? Is 4.0 my idea ??? Did you asked what I would put in next version ????

YOU asked me to post my files and yes, I did (repeatedly) ask you: "what you would like me to add/include?" but you just pointed me and everyone else to your To Do List and said, "do whatever you like" You obviously don't remember this.

 

 

You did everything on your own without sending anything, and now you said I didn't help...

Why are you confused? You wouldn't answer my B2R questions, fix any of the bugs or finish your beta mods. You evaded, skirted and avoided. Not knowing how to code something is much different than knowing how and being too lazy to bother. You rarely answered this topic even. YOU left it in my lap. So I did it. How does my doing all this and being treated like sh*t for it hurt YOU? You missed your opportunity to get involved and now you're angry at yourself and taking it out on me. That's the truth and you know it.

 

 

because I taught you coding

That's a huge assumption and another lie. Someone here on GTAForums did teach me how to code certain things but it wasn't you. Are you planning on taking credit for the mods I will be releasing too?** Be careful when shooting blanks, Tom - very careful. sly.gif

 

 

because I've worked on the rollerblades

You did not code any of it. You know the model you gave me is not being used in my mod. rebel_36 gave me rollerblades BEFORE you did. I said it would be cool to include both his and yours - a hi-res and low-res pair for the end-user to have a choice. But you didn't fix yours STILL so I can't use them. I thanked you anyway. Do you expect me to keep thanking you for something I can't even use?

 

 

See, it is in beta state and I haven't seen any line of code yet. So you're fake excuse of "release files when they are comfortable with the quality of their code" doesn't work. And I didn't ask you to do release, I asked you to show/share your work with me

So? The only thing fake here is you. Talk about excuses! I think I've heard all of them come outta your mouth, "I don't care." "I don't wanna." "I am too lazy." "I don't feel like it." "I don't give a f--k." That's all I've heard from you. Did I say anything then? NO. I let you be and just did what I could. Don't penalize me for your choices. I don't expect you to understand my decisions but you should respect them. Yes you did ask me to do a release, several times. I am glad I didn't give you my files because you just proved** what you'd do with them.

 

 

there is my work in you're files..

Only the mods that exist in previous B2R releases - fixed and improved mostly by me and some that others have helped with - that's it. I can remove them. My stuff is my stuff, your stuff is your stuff. But since when do you care anyway? You've let people even steal your code and said nothing. You've told me a million times that you don't care if people use your mods either. You know I'd credit you for code that is yours. So why are you ONLY afraid to let ME use them, hmm? That's what's strange.

 

 

I DO have the right to ask you to show me your files BEFORE you do a release, simply because it's my mod... I can't let you release something with my name in it that I haven't seen, that should be obvious...

You can't even make up your mind. B2R is your mod but 4.0 is my project BECAUSE you refused to help when I needed your help. Even recently, you asked for a list of things to do so I gave you a short list. Instead of saying, "Ok, will do." you flipped out on me and accused me of not knowing how to do it. WTF is wrong with you? I do know how but I shouldn't have to do absolutely EVERYTHING if you expect to put your name on my release - I've already worked on THOUSANDS of lines of code FOR YOU. Don't believe me? That's even more insulting. WATCH THE TRAILER WHEN I LINK TO IT.

 

You didn't demand files from Wesser, so why me? You only took away permission when BULLYING me didn't work. You don't give permission and then take it away just because you feel like it. I'm well within my rights to release it anyway because I DO have your written permission... repeatedly. Do you really expect people to check with you daily or based on your current mood, "Is today a YES or a NO?" No one who's received permission to include other mods in their project is required to send every original author their files prior to release either. That's not how it works. Nobody would ever get around to releasing anything if that were true.

 

 

I've always sent you my dev files, I always post new features code (and I even explain the code often), and you never ever did.

You keep your files accessible to EVERYONE on your webserver. Am I supposed to feel special that you linked us to them? Of course you should post code and explain it here... IT IS YOUR MOD, THAT IS WHAT MODDERS DO. I am not required to provide a webserver of files for B2R. You haven't even had the forethought to list me as a recognized developer for B2R so why would I go through the trouble?!? Despite this, I still offered to set up a server. You've obviously forgotten this as well.

 

 

4.0 is YOUR project, so you're not helping me, you're helping YOURSELF.

There is endless proof in this topic that I've helped you. The trailer will offer even more evidence of what I've done without asking for anything in return. I'm ungrateful? I had better things to do than fix YOUR mods Tom. I would've much preferred just working on my own material - it's certainly more fun than bugfixing and improving someone else's work. It would benefit me more to keep my mods out of B2R and put my effort elsewhere but I wasn't going to do that... I was giving them to you = to your B2R users. I even said, "use them or don't use them, it's up to you." Lots of people have given to you and your project and you've either ignored or sh*t on them too. Talk about UNGRATEFUL.

 

 

You are the one who always whine about credit... I know as well that you're totally ungrateful to people that have created the mod and make it what it is today.

You must be drunk. I asked for an accurate credits list, that's it. If this isn't a priority for you (obviously not)... it is YOU who is ungrateful to all the mod authors of B2R, not me.

 

 

I think spaceeinstein's is big enough to talk for himself.

He has spoken several times regarding that issue and you didn't bother to answer him until just now. If I hadn't said anything, you STILL wouldn't have answered him.

 

Everything I've said is fact and easily proven. Enough already. Because you prefer I don't use your mods, I WON'T but let me make something very clear to you right now... that sword cuts both ways. Since I am not like you, you CAN keep the code and graphics I've already posted/given you but forget about including my upcoming releases in B2R. You get what you give.

 

Good luck,

-Midnightz

 

P.S. I will do you a favor and rename my version of B2R (4.0) project to REALITY REMIX for now.

 

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asanovic7

Ok!

 

I have read through much of everything and I fell like I must say as an objective side my opinion..

 

I am sorry if I missed some statements, this is really long to read..

 

First of all, I must say I am on tomworld's side. Not the whole part, he f..d up credits apparently, and some other stuff I don't know, but still i favor him in this matter.. And that is not because I am not objective.

 

I released one mod three months ago for another game and like you midnightz, I was asking some experienced modders to help and they "helped" me just the way tomworld explained. They learned it that way, why would they help me to learn it fast, do I pay them? Anyways, he wrote the coding bible, right? What more do you expect from the man? I learned from it and I didn't ask him zipo. Not that I say I can code this like a master, but still I can do some stuff, not much, and I do it based on what and how some of the experienced coders did. I added plpython bjob to my b2r version with drinks and smoke without the mission master(I love missions in the order, yes I found space based on spaceeinstein's mod), version for me only, it works, it's cool, I am happy.. I don't go and bother him or whoever when there are so many posted tutorials and threads.. And I am not releasing anything..

If you are telling someone you are fixing his mod, you don't really expect him to teach you how to code, then help you with fixes.. wink.gif Funny I thought you fix it or provide an idea and fix it, then show it to modder, then..

 

Second, midi, girl, this mod was cns's, then tomworld took control, this thread would be long gone dead if it weren't for him. There is a blank spot two years ago for about half an year or so in this thread, if I am not mistaken, he added some great features and he is right, some of the things are his, if you are making a new version then you should show him, like you say in respect, the new mod..

 

Third!!!

Midi, you said that you asked tomworld "what would he want for you to add in the new version?"... EHEHHEHEHE Have you gone bonkers?

Wow, he is really right.. You obviously do not care anything.. People that do mods often say you can do whatever with my mod and stuff like that, but you cannot take that like it's a law from the bible. Darn, how can you, midi, teach someone manners when you can't uderstand this. Would you s..t all over someone's house just because they said, hey go ahead f..k, s..k, piss, do whatever you like..

 

Forth!

 

"He spent hours, I spent months!"

Do I really have to explain this?? It's like talking to a five year old child. Yep, tomworld when he learned the code and eventually coded spent 5 minnutes, because he is like you say "king, whatever", midi, poor midi spent months, years.. suicidal.gif

 

Fifth!

"You missed your opportunity to get involved and now you're angry at yourself and taking it out on me."

Again, midi, you are acting like a spoiled brat. You are reworking his, originally cns's mod, that means you didn't start from scratch.. You are really funny.. You are really bossy, are you les..? tounge.gif

 

Sixth!

F..k damn rollerblades.. As I said, PC shouldn't work on his behind..

 

Seventh!

F..k!

Midi, you used the f word more times than tomworld.. When you start with that and then act like this, you really look like a girl that haven't had ADFIALT!!! wink.gif))

 

Eight!

This is an idiotic fight and really you should all have a nice cold beer..

 

Cheers

 

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P.s. I am writting this because this is funny for me.. You are funny and I explained my reasons..

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asanovic7

Midnightz sent me a pm in which she says I am completely wrong, because I didn't bother to read I am a complete ass and so on..

 

And from where I am standing that could be right.

I just read a couple of last replys..

So there is a possibility I could be wrong.

 

If I am wrong I am wrong..

 

What should I do?

suicidal.gif

 

In any way, I just tried to help..

 

And yep, I am now somewhat bored..

Killing the time..

 

Anyways..

 

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It will be my 1st SCM+CLEO release, EXCUSE YOU - I would like to do it correctly.

 

 

 

I remember back when I first release my cleo & both main scm mod aswell I took as long as I needed I know it is NOT a good idea to rush otherwise everything

will go completely wrong,When I say everything I mean everything,good work Midnightz.

 

The reason why not to rush was for me is because I also released the soures with it(which was thousands of lines long) ,main scm & cleo coding is a little diffrent,you have to carfull also that you do not use any of the special Global variables in cleo scripts,I never use any Global variables in cleo script only cleo missions.Second I was editing stowaway aswell as making new missions

 

(and as all good modders know that mission can be a handfull somtimes)

 

Third:As I said above they work a little diffrent,and doing both together if not working enough time is given you could possible mix them up,not an easy mistake to make but I did it once,lol

 

Greetz

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stan101: You've been around this topic since before I got here so you know how things have happened. Thanks for being honest. smile.gif

 

gtasbigfoot: Yeah, I've been putting together a dev package too so yes - it means 2x the work. Thanks for your input and opinion too, I appreciate it. icon14.gif

 

To All: This situation is not my problem anymore, I'm done here. See you guys in the modding forums... wink.gif

 

 

 

 

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stan101:  You've been around this topic since before I got here so you know how things have happened.  Thanks for being honest.  smile.gif

 

gtasbigfoot:  Yeah, I've been putting together a dev package too so yes - it means 2x the work.  Thanks for your input and opinion too, I appreciate it.  icon14.gif 

 

To All:  This situation is not my problem anymore, I'm done here.  See you guys in the modding forums...  wink.gif

 

Thanks. You're "done" with this project already? Yeah, these kind of stuff happen and I'll be sure to keep my eye on your upcoming mods. biggrin.gif I also like some of the quotes in your signature, they're meaningful. lol.gif

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pep legal

Ok guys...

 

F..k this , f..k that, but...

 

...fights apart, when we'll have the B2R 4.0 ???

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yugokoral

HI

 

It will be good if you make it for cleo.

 

Thank you

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Volchik

That's just awsome....can you guys deal with sexual dramma of yours after relising BR?

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BliND123

I don't understand what to do with the Mission Builder and Sanny Builder folders.

 

I am lost in the readme where it says:

 

- Choose your program that uses the syntax with you work and you open the folder that has the name of it.

and

- Copy sascm.ini in Sanny Builder folder\DATA.

 

I have CLEO in San Andreas so what do I do to use this mod?

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MitakoBG

I have little problem. I can't sit as passager when I'm near to car and press "Change Camera". confused.gif

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ProjectOrigin
Hi,

 

 

Here, have some shoots.....

 

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No time to talk I'm too busy flying...

 

 

Have fun

and one question. How to do this jobs?

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Deathdime

I hope you can all hold your grudges until you release the new version. I Understand your all pissed at each other, though just try to work it out.

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ProjectOrigin

Can you in new verison put the one more showroom but with cheap and rusty cars. You can put it were is like car auction in LS. PLEASE!!!

You got:

Grotti car

Otto's Moto

 

and new:

 

Cheap and Rusty cars.

You can put:

Perenial

Clover

sabre

savana

blade

 

And something like that.

Please this mod is great but if you put this idea it will be much better.

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raduban

Here are some other Ideas:

 

More Peds that drive boats

I have been driving through all of the GTA SA waterways, and I have

notticed that they're are barely any peds driving boats, why dont you try

and make more peds boating in GTA SA?

 

More Peds Flying Planes

Again, I have been flying around and there are barely

any peds flying planes, which is kind of boring if you're in a

Hydra and want to shoot down some big airliner planes or some

private jets. This could be extended to have peds that fight back,

Making a sort of Dogfight Mod, but again thats up to you...

I know there is a Air Traffic mod, but I want it as a Cleo Mod.

 

Plane Interior

I have been looking for this since I have seen it in the

San Andreas Pilots Server, Its really cool to be able to go inside

a plane. This would be awsome of you can have peds inside the plane aswell

. My idea to get inside is to have to go up to the plane and press Tab and then you are

telepoted inside a Plane, going near the door and pressing Tab will make you teleport

outside the plane. It works like all interiors in GTA SA work, but instead of being a house

its the inside of a Plane, The Planes that should have this would be: Shamal, Nevada and AT400.

 

Working Airport

Ok I have 2 ideas for this mod,

IDEA 1

More Airport Cars should be doing stuff in the Airport,

NOT going around in circles around the airport buildings.

They should be taking baggages to the parked planes,

helping planes to tax to the run way, and going and putting ladders

near planes that have landed,

IDEA 2

The Airport should have a interior, which CJ can go in,

go through a metal detector, like in Vice City, that confiscates

all weapons, Then he can go to the desk and buy a ticket, he then

would have a cutscene where he goes through security, Then you would

go into the bus that drives to the plane, A cutscene would follow where he

gives the ticket and sits down. Then he has the power to Skip the Trip, Eat, or

highjack the plane.If he skips the plane arrives a

nd he apears outside the airport.

If he highjaks it, he has to fight all the peds and get to the cabin, where he takes

control of the plane.

 

Double Decker Bus with Interior

You have a bus which you can go in through the doors

and climb the stairs to get to the second floor. Also there

are peds sitting inside the bus and coming in and out.

 

Pick up any object and Take it to CJ's house

Like in the burglar missions where you have to

pick up stuff and take it. What about a mod where

every house is open and you can go in and take

everything, go back to CJ's house and put them it all in!

 

Peds playing Football on the field

Why not make a couple of peds play some football

on the Stadium, and some peds watching.

It be funny to nuke the place..

 

So that are a couple of my ideas, Tell me what you think. biggrin.gif

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ProjectOrigin

I like it

 

GREAT!!!! icon14.gif

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raduban
I like it

 

GREAT!!!! icon14.gif

Are you talking about my ideas?

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