guilty.by.association Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Ore try some of OrionSR's methods: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5812522022015366112 ( That's worth watching even if you have completed that mission ) Lol that was awesome The way i did it was driving up onto the first bridge ramp thing, then waiting for the train and then jumping onto the train myself and shooting them. I never thought to drive the bike on there tehe Its a very frustrating mission when you dont know how to do it, the first times i tried to do it i hated it, i just didnt understand why i couldnt pass it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingHigh Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 That's cool, but it almost looks harder to pull off then doing it the regular way. I can usually have them all killed by the end of the first tunnel before you go up the dirt road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team17 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Hiya I really hate this mission with a vengeance. it seems Sweet doesnt aim well at all... Be quicker to get off the bike and do it yourself - this mission is up soon for me, so I might try LOL Julia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagga rabbit Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I really hate this mission with a vengeance. it seems Sweet doesnt aim well at all... Sweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince_ThePhoenix Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I really hate this mission with a vengeance. it seems Sweet doesnt aim well at all... Sweet? Yes it's BigSmoke he doesn't aim well, he's too slow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad~Boy#17 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 No, Big Smoke aims very well, just those Vagos have a lot of life. As you can see in this video, CJ was shooting at them and look how slowly did the hp trianlge change color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Crook Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 No, Big Smoke aims very well, just those Vagos have a lot of life.As you can see in this video, CJ was shooting at them and look how slowly did the hp trianlge change color CJ has got very low skills with the M4 in that and the sights weren't often on them. But it does look like they're well protected. Try a head shot next time. Maybe with a sniper rifle. Most people find it hard to fight back, or even stand up, after their head's been blown off Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team17 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 LOL I meant Big Smoke, sorry... Long time since I've done the first missions..... Going slightly off topic here, I just won my first race, in High Stakes, Low Rider Julia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionSR Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Phreak only posted a link to one of my Wrong Side videos. Very Wrong only shows various bike jumps for getting on the tracks, and ends in a failure. They're supposed to be paired; Very Wrong shows the more difficult bike stunts and WrongFoot has many of the on-foot methods for accessing the train. The method demonstrated by Bad~Boy doesn't leave a lot of time for clearing the targets. In the WrongFoot video, CJ uses weaker weapons when more time is available before the next obstruction. Very Wrong Side of the Tracks - Folsom cut WrongFoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyGrenadeFrenzy Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Phreak only posted a link to one of my Wrong Side videos. Very Wrong only shows various bike jumps for getting on the tracks, and ends in a failure. They're supposed to be paired; Very Wrong shows the more difficult bike stunts and WrongFoot has many of the on-foot methods for accessing the train. The method demonstrated by Bad~Boy doesn't leave a lot of time for clearing the targets. In the WrongFoot video, CJ uses weaker weapons when more time is available before the next obstruction. Very Wrong Side of the Tracks - Folsom cut WrongFoot Thank you for sharing those vids OrionSR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Crook Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I've been trying that trick of jumping onto the train in mission Wrong Side of the Tracks. I jump on the Sanchez, not caring much if Smoke gets on or not. I ride quickly past the train and round the bend to the level crossing where I get off the Sanchez and run up onto the arch of the bridge. From there I can jump onto the train - but what then? The Vagos seem to be well armoured because even if I use the sniper rifle (a favourite weapon of mine) it takes 3 shots to the head of the one nearest me before he falls. If I use the AK 47 then it still takes a while and it's harder to hit him with the train rocking and turning. (I'm on a PC so there's no auto-aim) And then there's that bridge! Are the Vagos a lot shorter than CJ? They seem to pass under it without any trouble. I tried crouching before I started shooting but when I tried that I was shooting with the sniper rifle and it seems CJ always stands up when he snipes. By the time I'd realised he was standing up again I'd been swept off the train. If I stop sniping just before the bridge and make him crouch again can I then get under the bridge? Or must I have killed all three of them before we get to the bridge? Any suggestions or comments? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girish Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Have you looked through the following videos? crazyanurag's method Very Wrong Side of the Tracks - Folsom Cut WrongFoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) Auto-Aim with Keyboard and Mouse. Easiest way is to get a USB GamePad (12 button minimum). If you already have a console game, Adapter cables are available. Then you can play like on the consoles. Much more fun than keyboard and mouse and this game is designed for GamePad use. OR if you must use the Keyboard and Mouse then: Aim Weapon = [Del] key or [Caps] lock key or [RMB] Right Mouse button. Next target = E or [Enter] key or [MWU] Mouse Wheel Up. Previous target = Q or [.] on Num Pad or [MWD] Mouse Wheel Down. Fire Weapon = [0] on Num Pad or Left [Ctrl] key or [LMB] Left Mouse Button. Manual page 7. And if you are using a LapTop then you must engage the blue [FN] key to activate the imbedded num pad (around keys JKL) Build up your skill with the AK47 or M4 M4 available at the end of the runway in the airport. with skill level up. Just race ahead of the train ... jump off... and shoot as it passes... Jump on and race ahead again, repeat. by the third time they should all be mort bait. If you want to do it in the manner suggested: Wrong Side of the Tracks is easier if CJ’s Mini-SMG skill is high, the skill level seems to be linked to Big Smoke’s skill. Ride even with the back of the Locomotive so Big Smoke has them all to shot at. Edited May 31, 2013 by lil weasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Crook Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Auto-Aim with Keyboard and Mouse.Easiest way is to get a USB GamePad (12 button minimum). If you already have a console game, Adapter cables are available. Then you can play like on the consoles. Much more fun than keyboard and mouse and this game is designed for GamePad use. Have you tried manual aim? I've tried auto-aim, and didn't like it - in most cases. Too often it selected the wrong target. I generally prefer manual aim Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Crook Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) Have you looked through the following videos? crazyanurag's method Very Wrong Side of the Tracks - Folsom Cut WrongFoot Yes, I'd seen them and others like them. That's why I thought I might try it. So it seems that you can't crouch to get under the bridge and must despatch them before you get there. As the sniper rifle won't do it fast enough, needing 3 or 4 head shots to kill each of them, it must be the AK 47 or the M4 (or the minigun) Some of the methods of getting onto the train after the first bridge look interesting, especially the one where you get onto it as it goes into the first tunnel Thanks Steve Edit: Ah well, I've given up It's interesting to try different techniques but I really can't see any advantage to doing this mission this way. If I take Smoke with me and ride alongside the train we can kill all of them (very nearly) every time. With the jumping on the train I've tried it 20 or 30 times and haven't managed to kill them all on a single one of those attempts. I can get onto the train easy enough but even if I walk up close to them they are just too well protected and I can't kill them before I get swept off by the bridge. Riding ahead of the train and going up above the first tunnel might be worth a try. But if you go too far ahead of the train then you lose the mission. I notice that if you ride ahead of the train the the car that's parked across the tracks doesn't appear there until the train is quite close to it. I also noticed that there are 4 Vagos on the train when it leaves the station but by the time it gets to the level crossing there are only 3 of them, even if you haven't been shooting at them Steve Edited May 6, 2008 by Steve Crook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxeine Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) EDIT << New topic merged with existing topic >> I have tried playing this mission to the point of insanity. Any tips so I don't smash my controller to oblivion? Edited May 8, 2014 by lil weasel merged topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeansowaty Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Obtain a Minigun from Roca Escalante (Las Venturas), somehow get on top of the train and kill all the Vago-hoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTAGuy1995 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I remember having problems too at this mission and found out that if you stay on the opposite site, Big Smoke can hit them. If you are too close to train, he can't hit and because of this, you will fail mission. So try to stay on the right. Hope it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsh97 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Get on the bike with smoke and get ahead of the train and there is a bridge which you can climb with sanchez. After you get on top of bridge and the train is nearby passing you then move your sanchez to the train and keep on holding accelerator button. Now as you are on top of train you can shot the vagos yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QaiserH Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Yeah Dude Checkout This Topic Bs Mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Penguin Bobo Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) EDIT << Merged new topic into Existing topic >> I don't get why people think the mission Wrong Side Of The Tracks is hard. They're still calling it difficult til this day. I honestly found the mission really easy. Just simply stay on the right and Smoke will shoot them. I even beat it in one try. Edited March 1, 2019 by lil weasel Nappy, Reyiz Kovan, Crossbones and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil empire Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I completed it on my second try, I don't find it particularly hard since all I had to do was follow the damn train. SanLiberty, Am Shaegar and El Penguin Bobo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanAlgerian Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 People said it's hard because Smoke can't shoot good, that why we always need to follow the damn train not shoot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Shizuku Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Because they hadn't read or possessed a guide yet back then? Some missions can be tricky when you can't figure out on what to do by yourself when the game didn't even bother to tell you a small hint (not that every parts have to be spoonfed for players to make it right, but balanced.) or they couldn't read the prompt fully in time. I remember when I couldn't even beat "Robbing Uncle Sam" because I had no idea what right analogue stick was when I played the game on PS2 for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanAlgerian Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I thought Robbing Uncle Sam mission is "Home Invasion" but idk, if that old man we rob called Uncle Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 There's some missions you'll find tremendously easy, almost to the point that you refuse to believe people struggle. As it turns out, there's missions you might have a tough time with and others will breeze through without a second thought. The problem with Wrong Side Of The Tracks as many have pointed out is Smoke couldn't shoot to save his life, which is actually proven quite true by the end of the story. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. The first time I played it I was so distracted by what was going on I drove right into the path of the oncoming train. It took me a few tries to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I have had the feeling that in this mission Big Smoke's ability is linked to Carl's Status with the Mini-Submachine gun. It seemed to me that when I had Carl's ability at Hit-Man level Smoke also did much better. Sorviknight and Mulyadi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Male01 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Rockstar Logic: Big Smoke is the person who gives you shooting lessons. When following that train, he makes stormtroopers seem like Deadshot. SanLiberty, Sorviknight and LazlowsucksiloveslutS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProKiller93 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 it's hard if you don't know the tricks lil weasel and SanLiberty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazlowsucksiloveslutS Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Smoke can't shoot for sh*t even if you do your best dirtbike driving This mission is easier on PS2. To my surprise I did it in like 3rd try whereas on PC i was stuck on this mission for a loooong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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