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Burning-Ice

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Burning-Ice

I think Hatton's aggresive style will give Mayweather problems. I'd like to see Hatton fight Maussa while Mayweather fight Cotto and then Hatton vs Mayweather for undisputed championship. Cotto got a fight soon though so it probably won't work out like that.

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I think Hatton's aggresive style will give Mayweather problems. I'd like to see Hatton fight Maussa while Mayweather fight Cotto and then Hatton vs Mayweather for undisputed championship. Cotto got a fight soon though so it probably won't work out like that.

I just really really really really hope Mayweather and Hatton fight within the next year. Im a huge fan of both fighters and it sucks because we know that it wont be easy for them to work out a deal.

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Clinton Woods fights Julio Gonzalez this weekend. Got ringside seats yet I don't have a fecking clue who Gonzalez is.....is he a good fighter?

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Burning-Ice

Well Pacquao(sp?) TKOed Velaquez or something and suprise suprise, Morales lost a UD to Zahir Raheem. I missed the Pacman fight but I did see all 12 rounds of Raheem-Morales, I had it 8-4 for Raheem, which I think is 116-112 for Raheem. I think Morales should go back down to 130 and also, he should not fight Raheem or anyone who fights like Raheem again, very bad style match up for Morales. I think Raheem can make some noise at 135 but I hear he is going down to 130..don't know about that but I would like to see Pacquao-Raheem. Won't happen though cause Morales is rematching Pacuqao anyway.

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Well Pacquao(sp?) TKOed Velaquez or something and suprise suprise, Morales lost a UD to Zahir Raheem. I missed the Pacman fight but I did see all 12 rounds of Raheem-Morales, I had it 8-4 for Raheem, which I think is 116-112 for Raheem. I think Morales should go back down to 130 and also, he should not fight Raheem or anyone who fights like Raheem again, very bad style match up for Morales. I think Raheem can make some noise at 135 but I hear he is going down to 130..don't know about that but I would like to see Pacquao-Raheem. Won't happen though cause Morales is rematching Pacuqao anyway.

Rahim looked great out there, but I think a bit of it just had to do with Morales going up in wieght. He looked lethargic out there and he shouldnt fight at that wieght anymore. Cant take away from Rahim though, hes pretty talented and like you said his style is tailor made for someone that wants to brawl.

 

Morales will still beat Pacman. Styles make fights.

 

@Joey - No, not a challenge really. Hense Woods getting an easy ud.

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Eh, any opinions of Joe Calgazhe? Don't know what you guys think but I think he's faking his injury to avoid Lacy. I thought it was pretty clear when you don't take your damn glove off your 'broken' hand after a fight to see if its broken or not.

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Eh, any opinions of Joe Calgazhe? Don't know what you guys think but I think he's faking his injury to avoid Lacy. I thought it was pretty clear when you don't take your damn glove off your 'broken' hand after a fight to see if its broken or not.

My thing with Calzaghe is that even as a huuuuuge boxing fan, a guy that likes pretty much any talented fighter with a good record, ive never once seen this guy fight.

 

I know all about him, know his record, know his 'biggest' fights if you can even call them that, but ive never actually seen him fight.

 

 

From all that ive read, hes a SUPER talented fighter whom is taking all the wrong roads in the buisness. He's fought nobody. He may have broke his hand, he may not have, but untill he fights Lacy he's still fought nobody. And f*ck, Lacy isnt even a proven champion anyway. Sure he's awesome but there are people that could beat Lacy by moving up and down a few pounds.

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Soul Survivor
People who is your favorite boxers.

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Burning-Ice
People who is your favorite boxers.

You know, it is very hard for me to remember all of my favourite boxers since I have atleast 3-4 in each division (mostly). In terms of skillwise though I've got to say Mayweather Jr. with ease.

 

Peter/Klitschko, Cotto/Torres tomorrow..going to be pretty good. I predict Klitscko TKO 9 and Cotto UD.

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Klitschko won, because of technic, but Peter was stronger and did 3 knockdowns to Klitschko. Sorry for my lame english....Anyways, I new that Klitschko will win, he is far more experienced than Peter...

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People who is your favorite boxers.

All time, I'd have to say Joe Frazier. I'm not really sure why, but I've always liked him. Maybe it's because he was the first guy to beat Ali...

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Latest news:

Klitschko won, because of technic, but Peter was stronger and did 3 knockdowns to Klitschko. Sorry for my lame english....Anyways, I new that Klitschko will win, he is far more experienced than Peter...

Eh, two of the knockdowns were shots to the back of the head..3rd one was good though. Wlad has very weak legs but he stuck to his game plan and pulled of a win, winning 114-111 when you have 3 knockdowns against you is really good. Peter needs to drastically improve on his skills, raw power isn't going to cut it against world class oppononents.

 

Now how about Cotto-Torres, that was quite an enjoyable fight to watch. I thought Torres was going to win in round 2 by TKO because he was landing some good shots and Cotto wasn't punching back but Cotto showed a good chin (even though he got knocked down once, he took a lot of Torres shots and was still standing) and showed a pretty good body attack. Cotto still needs to improve his defense, but I think he is a solid B+ fighter right now.

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Latest news:

Klitschko won, because of technic, but Peter was stronger and did 3 knockdowns to Klitschko. Sorry for my lame english....Anyways, I new that Klitschko will win, he is far more experienced than Peter...

Eh, two of the knockdowns were shots to the back of the head..3rd one was good though. Wlad has very weak legs but he stuck to his game plan and pulled of a win, winning 114-111 when you have 3 knockdowns against you is really good. Peter needs to drastically improve on his skills, raw power isn't going to cut it against world class oppononents.

 

Now how about Cotto-Torres, that was quite an enjoyable fight to watch. I thought Torres was going to win in round 2 by TKO because he was landing some good shots and Cotto wasn't punching back but Cotto showed a good chin (even though he got knocked down once, he took a lot of Torres shots and was still standing) and showed a pretty good body attack. Cotto still needs to improve his defense, but I think he is a solid B+ fighter right now.

I dont understand the 'good chin' theory that I hear from alot of people.

 

To me, a good chin keeps you out of trouble. Cotto was in serious trouble about 4 or 5 times that fight.

 

His heart and determination carried him through, but he was hurt bad.

 

 

And this Torress guy. I wont really judge him till I see him fight some more names, because his ko ratio was good, but his opponents records are more than laughable. I dont belive that he is all of a sudden some big junior welter contender because he shook up Cotto. I think Cotto has a problem with taking blows. His eyes went way back in his head pretty much everytime he was hit flush.

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OBrien97

Klitchko FINALLY doing what he can do.... Wladimir was always the more athletic one...Vitali was the better boxer though by far.... now that Wlad was trained by Emanuel Stewart.... theres no stopping Wladimir.... and how bout that chin fellas?..... great fight for him....went the distance...took some punches....he needs to do some leg workouts tho....he has really weak legs.... gets hit once and they get all wobbly...

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Burning-Ice

Well, Brewster just TKOed Luan Krasiqni, he was behind on all the scorecards but he floored LK in round 8 then continued the pressure. Personally, I'd like to see Wlad-Brewster 2, better then Wlad just beating the crap out of Byrd (that's if Byrd passes ToS). Brewster might not take the mandatory though, considering he just fought one in Luan.

 

On an end note..

 

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That might just be the best Sports-Action pic I've ever seen tounge.gif

 

Was that the punch that knocked him down?

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That might just be the best Sports-Action pic I've ever seen tounge.gif

 

Was that the punch that knocked him down?

Yes, it is the punch that knocked Krasiqini down in the 8th and changed the fight.

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D Jones

Tarver-Jones Jr. Tommorow. Who wins?

 

I say Jones Jr. creams Tarver. I think Tarver just got Jones Jr. off guard, and yet Jones Jr. had "excuses", but I think Jones Jr. will win.

 

First fight was a classic.

 

 

My favorite "old" boxer is probably Ali.

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I'm a big Jones Jr. Fan...which is probably why i put money on him... but it wasn't much cause i think Tarver is gunna beat him....

 

But like i said....the bet is on Jones....

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Well the fight's probably over by now, but I'm gonna try to watch the bout somehow instead of just finding out the winner. I'm guessing it will be Tarver though. I would like for Jones to win, but I think he's sort of "washed up," if you will. Also, Tarver has looked solid lately.

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Well the fight's probably over by now, but I'm gonna try to watch the bout somehow instead of just finding out the winner. I'm guessing it will be Tarver though. I would like for Jones to win, but I think he's sort of "washed up," if you will. Also, Tarver has looked solid lately.

Nah, I think it just started 11th round. Go to ESPN.com, they have a round-by-round thing.

 

Jones got beat by Decison. Can't wait to see it.

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Well the fight's probably over by now, but I'm gonna try to watch the bout somehow instead of just finding out the winner. I'm guessing it will be Tarver though. I would like for Jones to win, but I think he's sort of "washed up," if you will. Also, Tarver has looked solid lately.

Nah, I think it just started 11th round. Go to ESPN.com, they have a round-by-round thing.

 

Jones got beat by Decison. Can't wait to see it.

Yeah, I hope there's a replay or something next week..RJJ wants to fight again but I don't think it's going to make much a difference, I think he's mentally shot as a fighter and should just retire.

 

But hey, anyone see Toney fight last night? Heard he saved the fight card from the joke of a fight of Byrd-Williamson.

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Well the fight's probably over by now, but I'm gonna try to watch the bout somehow instead of just finding out the winner. I'm guessing it will be Tarver though. I would like for Jones to win, but I think he's sort of "washed up," if you will. Also, Tarver has looked solid lately.

Nah, I think it just started 11th round. Go to ESPN.com, they have a round-by-round thing.

 

Jones got beat by Decison. Can't wait to see it.

Yeah, I hope there's a replay or something next week..RJJ wants to fight again but I don't think it's going to make much a difference, I think he's mentally shot as a fighter and should just retire.

 

But hey, anyone see Toney fight last night? Heard he saved the fight card from the joke of a fight of Byrd-Williamson.

Toney put on boxing 101. He's perhaps my favorite boxer just on pure skill alone, not to mention hes hilarious to watch in interviews and all that.

 

Really though, even with a gut the guy goes 12 rounds, consistantly throwing more and more punches. Finishes the fight looking like he could go another 12. The guys an animal no matter how pudgy he is.

 

And Im no longer a Roy Jones fan. I just cant.

 

He clearly took that fight for the money. And it became so evident when he was immediate to tell people that he still wanted to fight. And against the same two people.. After he just did no more than he did in his last fights besides not getting ko'd.

 

He did NOTHING in that fight but showboat, and have Tarver in trouble once in between throwing 1 punch every 60 seconds for 12 rounds. He came back and did f*ck all, survived a knockout and now wants to fight more fights that he basically has no chance of winning. Thats for money.

 

Ive never seen a boxer not only in a girls gone wild ripoff infomercial, but in two or three other latenight infomercials....including one for his own dvds. tounge.gif This guy wants the most money he can get.

 

I dont really blame him, but I dont want to see him fight anymore. I like to watch fighters that come to fight.

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And Im no longer a Roy Jones fan. I just cant.

 

He clearly took that fight for the money. And it became so evident when he was immediate to tell people that he still wanted to fight. And against the same two people.. After he just did no more than he did in his last fights besides not getting ko'd.

I wouldn't say it was solely for the money. He's made a lot of money through his career and with the acting stuff. I'm not certain, but I haven't heard any stories of him pissing away all his money a la Tyson.

 

Also, RJJ is clearly a proud man. You can see it anytime he's doing an interview or even when he was a guest commentator for HBO. He didn't want to end his career on two straight KO defeats. He wants to go out on his own terms. I doubt that will happen, but I think that's what he's trying to do.

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Burning-Ice

I didn't even see the Tarver-Jones fight, I had a feeling it was going to be something like that, but I don't really know why RJJ would continue fighting. Time catches up with everyone, I don't know if he's trying to save his legacy or what but my opinion on him about him being an all time great hasn't really changed, he didn't even need to fight Tarver the 3rd time if you ask me. I just can't see why he would only fight for money, like Cuse said, I think it's more of a ego or legacy thing that he's worried about.

 

 

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As a huge Floyd Mayweather fan, im pretty choaked at his recent fight rumors with Sharmba Mitchell. I really hope that doesnt go forward..

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Burning-Ice
As a huge Floyd Mayweather fan, im pretty choaked at his recent fight rumors with Sharmba Mitchell. I really hope that doesnt go forward..

It probably will however, I haven't really been checking on Floyd but fighting Shambra Mitchell? What is the point of that...

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Marvelous Marvin Hagler is the man. colgate.gif And Tyson in '80s.

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D Jones

The last two guys off of "The Contender" are having a rematch right now on ESPN. Stallone made the match a while ago, and it's actually suppose to be real good. I'm acutally anticipating a good fight, because the last one wasn't all that bad.

 

 

Lol, one of these boxers got so cheated out of a win, the ESPN commentators said "This is bullsh*t" and the fans are saying "BULLsh*t" and are obviously heard. It's hilarouis. And it was really a one-sided match, but the guy who deserved to lose, won. It's bullsh*t.

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The last two guys off of "The Contender" are having a rematch right now on ESPN. Stallone made the match a while ago, and it's actually suppose to be real good. I'm acutally anticipating a good fight, because the last one wasn't all that bad.

 

 

Lol, one of these boxers got so cheated out of a win, the ESPN commentators said "This is bullsh*t" and the fans are saying "BULLsh*t" and are obviously heard. It's hilarouis. And it was really a one-sided match, but the guy who deserved to lose, won. It's bullsh*t.

Haha, I knew there was going to be some type of robbery because Contender is now on ESPN so I didn't even bother watching it. It's a shame when a fighter wins every round (Anthony Bonstante) but because either Judges are blind or are being paid the right amount they give it to the loser.It's just bad to lose like that, I'd hate to be the guy that won (who should of lost though)..I mean what the hell do you do in the situation? Do you accept the victroy or what? Hah..sucks to be that guy eh?

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