Monitor57 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 (edited) ---------> Map Making <------------ ---------> Height Mapping [ Using displacement modifier and 3ds max 6] <------------ ok, in order to follow this tutorial you need 3ds max ( 5, 6 or 7, these 3 version are pretty similar so it shudnt be too hard to follow) do what i say and you will all be fine, now i used 3ds max 6 for this tutorial, but as i said it shouldnt be too hard to follow if you have 5 or 7 -----> Brief <------ Iv noticed that there is alot of new map projects popping up from everywhere, and then when they show off the 1st island.. its not pretty lol so this is why i made this tutorial, to help u get a good result and a nice finish Step 1 <--------- Ok, boot up 3ds max and create a plane (in this example i made a plane with 50 polys vertical and horizontal, then made it 200 wide and 200 tall) as you can see in these screens: ----- Step 2 <--------- Click the modifiers drop down menu and select "Displace" ----- Step 3 <--------- (this is unbelievably easy) now select the bitmap tab shown below, and then use your hieght map image: in this example i found this image on Google image search, and it works nicely for this tutorial ------ The basics of height maps <-------- umm how do i put this, make the shape of the land u want, then shade it.. the brighter the colour the higher u are making it and the darker the colour the lower you are making it NOTE: ALWAYS USE GREYSCALE!! Step 4 <-------- now we have our height map applied, time to sdjust the settings to how much u want it to modify the hieght of your plane: Adjust to neccsesary, the decay will soften it up and the strength is how much u want it to be aplied and then you have your result, now how easy was that!? there are other ways of doing this, modeling it all by hand is 1 option but this is the way the majority tend to do it, (how do you think Illspirit made Myriad islands base land to such vast detail?) if there are any problems you have had with my tutorial please post in here and sharew so i can help all of you who may have that problem thank you. i'll elaborate a bit more;On your displacement map, white is high, and black is low. Say your makign a mountain; the peak of the mountain at teh very top would be the whitest, and the bottom way below would be black, which grayscale in the middle, getting lighter as you go higher up (the mountain). One problem i have with using a displacemnt map, is you still get the jagged edges at the top of the mesh. The Decay you mentioned, never works right for me. so what i do is apply the Relax Modifier (Parametric Deformers -> Relax). Relax also gives you a bit more flexibility in how the mesh is smoothed out, allowing for different effects. Terrain and Mesh deformations can also be done by creating a plane, and converting it to an editable poly; then deforming the mesh using soft selection. But this is monitor's tutorial, and i wont hijack it anymore. ^^ useful info by ashdexx - M57 Edited May 16, 2005 by Monitor57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suction Testicle Man Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Good job Mon, I'm adding it to the archive now /me stamps approval If at first you don't succeed, you fail, and the test will be terminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GRAVITY2- Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 OMG thanks so much. I love you so much Monitor if only you did this earlier. I thought illy did it all by hand so i tried to but im wrong. Thanks so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexX Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 i'll elaborate a bit more; On your displacement map, white is high, and black is low. Say your making a mountain; the peak of the mountain at the very top would be the whitest, and the bottom way below would be black, with grayscale in the middle, getting lighter as you go higher up (the mountain). One problem i have with using a displacemnt map, is you still get the jagged edges at the top of the mesh. The Decay you mentioned, never works right for me. so what i do is apply the Relax Modifier (Parametric Deformers -> Relax). Relax also gives you a bit more flexibility in how the mesh is smoothed out, allowing for different effects. Terrain and Mesh deformations can also be done by creating a plane, and converting it to an editable poly; then deforming the mesh using soft selection. But this is monitor's tutorial, and i wont hijack it anymore. Nice Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickarrow Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 This little tut was really needed. Good job man. Maybe you could add something about keeping the polycount under control though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monitor57 Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 cheers, keeping the polycount under control with this method isnt easy as the poly's are placed as a grid, so the less poly's u use the less detail and shape you are going to have in your land, and yes this does lead to high polywaste, but its worthit on a scale as large as this - M57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JernejL Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 "displace modifier".. duh, this technique is called height-map terrain! Currently working on Top Down City Game, a classics top down game similar to GTA1 & GTA2: Thread Info: https://gtaforums.com/topic/911312-new-game-top-down-city/ Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxGfOh3ld7Xm-ic3KEMB6iA Discord: https://discord.gg/UXmDPzS - join #bridge channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suction Testicle Man Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 "displace modifier".. duh, this technique is called height-map terrain! Yeah? Updated. If at first you don't succeed, you fail, and the test will be terminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monitor57 Posted May 18, 2005 Author Share Posted May 18, 2005 "displace modifier".. duh, this technique is called height-map terrain! Yeah? Updated. <3D wow, never knew that.. and everyone i spoke to has always referred to it as the displacement modifier (the name of the process) - M57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexX Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 its not either or, both terms are correct for different parts of the procedure. The image that the terrain is based on, is the "heightmap". The modifier you need to use is a/known as displacement map/mapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suction Testicle Man Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 Oh, well if it's the same I guess I'll just leave it I might update the layout in a bit Mon - add tables and things. If at first you don't succeed, you fail, and the test will be terminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjack Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 How I make to perfectly calculate the size of my plan so that the land if rabbet with the image that I will be to use? Terrain i need use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opius Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Problem: That isn't a heightmap. It's an aerial photo. Heightmaps have the highpoints as white and the low points as black, not highlights as white and shadows as blacks. To give a sense of scale, VCs game world is 4096x4096, end to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dertyjerzian Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I like this tutorial, that modifier was covered for this type of use so much faster than any actual book I ever read! good job! You know what I would like to seet though ? I'd like to see properly texturing an island as a tutorial. I have been experimenting with many things in GTA lately and most things I try cause a crash. No idea why, or how to check lol. I'm pretty sure that Terrain crashes have to do withA: I use DreamScape and B I don't texture them because when I do they look crazy. I know I'm going to have to UV a beach and then the half each/ half grass area, and then the full grass further inland, but I really don't feel like doing until there's a tut :Plol EDIT: This is more of anew request, but I figured the writer would be a good person to bring this to his attention. Nonetheless, I'm going to drop a quote of myself into the requests sticky too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjack Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Problem: That isn't a heightmap. It's an aerial photo. Heightmaps have the highpoints as white and the low points as black, not highlights as white and shadows as blacks. To give a sense of scale, VCs game world is 4096x4096, end to end. THANK'S OPIUS FOR THE EXPLANATION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=4EVER=- Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 help http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9629/dd3tr.png how to put texture??? very,very,very,very sorry for BAD ENGLISH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cR Posted September 20, 2005 Share Posted September 20, 2005 Here's a nice example disp for ya'll... Let's see what you can do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleXXX Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 "displace modifier".. duh, this technique is called height-map terrain! Height-mapping? I thought, it is effect for creation Bump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATALiC Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 how about a caves tutorial? this doesn't help me with what i want to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[NX] Joao.pt Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 How i can make height maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supdario Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Joao.pt' date='Oct 29 2005, 18:15'] How i can make height maps? This tut learns it Read the first post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arma12 Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 (edited) Hi, Ok here the deal, I have got a map using your tutorial and the same heightmap you used. So where do I go next as regards to texturing and basically getting that map into GTA SA? Sorry if I shouldn't have replied here. Arma12 Edited November 15, 2005 by Arma12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monitor57 Posted December 28, 2005 Author Share Posted December 28, 2005 Hi, Ok here the deal, I have got a map using your tutorial and the same heightmap you used. So where do I go next as regards to texturing and basically getting that map into GTA SA? Sorry if I shouldn't have replied here. Arma12 i have not yet got any Map objects into SA and fully functional as of yet. Maybe somebody else here may be able to help you or maybe you can search the tutuorial forum for a possible answer? sorry. - M57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bqwec Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Hello, I was just wondering if anyone knows of any way to turn a TOPO map into a heightmap picture. This would be great, BQWEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant_has_a_dream Posted January 14, 2006 Share Posted January 14, 2006 (edited) OMG thanks so much, took me about 30mins to make the greyscale, 10 mins to perfect the map, and about 5 mins to get it all ingame and functional. Thanks alot. Edited January 20, 2006 by Grant_has_a_dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waddle48 Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Hey, sorry for the BUMP! I'm just wondering, how can i reduce the polycount of a heightmap i've made? I mean because when i generated it, it was about 26000 polys >_< Oh, and also, is it 1000 poly limit or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monitor57 Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 Hey, sorry for the BUMP! I'm just wondering, how can i reduce the polycount of a heightmap i've made? I mean because when i generated it, it was about 26000 polys >_< Oh, and also, is it 1000 poly limit or more? you can either reduce the poly's by using the "optimize" modeifier on the mesh after creating, or at the start you may reduce the amount of width/height segments used for the heightmap. -M57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woozie-moo Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Hey this is a great tut,but how do I make a cave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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