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Dublo 7

The national ID card

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Dublo 7

Last Chance to Stop National ID

 

Rep. Ron Paul | May 10, 2005

 

The U.S. House of Representatives passed a spending bill last week that contains provisions establishing a national ID card, and the Senate is poised to approve the measure in the next few days. This week marks the American public's last chance to convince their senators they don't want to live in a nation that demands papers from its citizens as they go about their lives.

 

Absent a political miracle in the Senate, within two years every American will need a conforming national ID card to participate in ordinary activities. This REAL ID Act establishes a massive, centrally coordinated database of highly personal information about American citizens: at a minimum their name, date of birth, place of residence, Social Security number, and physical characteristics. The legislation also grants open-ended authority to the Secretary of Homeland Security to require biometric information on IDs in the future. This means your harmless looking driver's license could contain a retina scan, fingerprints, DNA information, or radio frequency technology.

 

Think this sounds farfetched? Read the REAL ID Act, HR 418, for yourself. Its text is available on the Library of Congress Web site. A careful reading also reveals that states will be required to participate in the "Driver's License Agreement," which was crafted by DMV lobbyists years ago. This agreement creates a massive database of sensitive information on American citizens that can be shared with Canada and Mexico!

 

Terrorism is the excuse given for virtually every new power grab by the federal government, and the national ID is no exception. But federal agencies have tried to create a national ID for years, long before the 9/11 attacks. In fact, a 1996 bill sought to do exactly what the REAL ID Act does: transform state drivers' licenses into de facto national ID cards. At the time, Congress was flooded with calls by angry constituents, and the bill ultimately died.

 

Proponents of the REAL ID Act continue to make the preposterous claim that the bill does not establish a national ID card. This is dangerous and insulting nonsense. Let's get the facts straight: The REAL ID Act transforms state motor vehicle departments into agents of the federal government. Nationalizing standards for drivers' licenses and birth certificates in a federal bill creates a national ID system, pure and simple. Having the name of your particular state on the ID is meaningless window dressing.

 

Federally imposed standards for drivers' licenses and birth certificates make a mockery of federalism and the 10th amendment. While states technically are not forced to accept the federal standards, any refusal to comply would mean their residents could not get a job, receive Social Security, or travel by plane. So rather than imposing a direct mandate on the states, the federal government is blackmailing them into complying with federal dictates.

 

One overriding point has been forgotten: Criminals don't obey laws! As with gun control, national ID cards will only affect law-abiding citizens. Do we really believe a terrorist bent on murder is going to dutifully obtain a federal ID card? Do we believe that people who openly flout our immigration laws will nonetheless respect our ID requirements? Any ID card can be forged; any federal agency or state DMV is susceptible to corruption. Criminals can and will obtain national ID cards, or operate without them. National ID cards will be used to track the law-abiding masses, not criminals.

 

infowars.com

 

I know this doesnt effect me (yet), but I just think its an interesting topic. It seems as if George Orwells 'Nineteen Eighty Four' is becoming reality. Next thing you know you will have a telescreen in your houses.

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Dirty Sanchez

"their name, date of birth, place of residence, Social Security number, and physical characteristics".

 

Sorry, but is this not any more information than we already have on our driver's lisence or that the government has accces to?

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Dublo 7
"their name, date of birth, place of residence, Social Security number, and physical characteristics".

 

Sorry, but is this not any more information than we already have on our driver's lisence or that the government has accces to?

Yeah no sh*t, but do you have to show your license pretty much everywhere you go?

 

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Dirty Sanchez

 

Absent a political miracle in the Senate, within two years every American will need a conforming national ID card to participate in ordinary activities.

 

That is just specualtion. Nowhere does it say that we will need to use it at every location you're at. It's justmaking a national drivers license. Although it doesn't really seem that neccesary, people are making a really big deal about it.

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Swarz

This type of ID Card rubbish is also in the pipeline here in the UK.

 

After a healthy long discussion with a seminar group, we came to the conclusion that ID Cards are a complete and total bullsh!t waste of time and not worth thinking about, yet alone forcing the taxpayer to fork out for them.

 

And yet they are being cited as an anti-terror measure - what a load of crap! Even my Danish seminar tutor complained about the established ID Card system there and the numerous faults they have with the database and problems in changing details.

 

E.g. Walk into a doctors surgery. "Hi, I'm Mr. Smith, here's my card".

 

[secretary inputs data]

 

Sec: "Just to confirm, you live at 54 Green Road".

 

Smith: "Um... no, I moved 8 months ago".

 

Sec: "Well, that's not what the database says... and it's NEVER wrong".

 

 

 

Just brings up so many problems, not to mention the security risks it ironically creates rather than addresses. Complete waste - stuff like this that really pisses me off. sly.gif

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