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Burning-Ice

James Toney def John Ruiz

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Burning-Ice

This fight was a lot better then I thought, I thought Ruiz was just going to grab onto Toney the entire fight and win the fight in an ugly fashion but atleast Ruiz was actually throwing some punches. None the less Toney is the new WBA (World Boxing Association) Champ (for those who don't follow boxing much, there are 4 heavyweight titles) You're welcomed to comment on the fight biggrin.gif

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Dan_1983

I won a bet with a friend of mine on this fight,He said Ruiz would use the hit and grab style to confuse Toney but i said James wwas to smart for that and would outbox and outclass John Ruiz.

 

It was great to see James win another title.

 

BTW there are 4 world titles in every weight division biggrin.gif WBA,WBC,IBF and the 2nd rate WBO.

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Burning-Ice

Toney said he's going to fight Chris Byrd on July 23rd I believe. I think that's going to be good, the winner will have both the WBA and the IBF titles with them. Brewster vs Golata looks good as well, I hope Golata will take the belt from Brewster.

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Dan_1983

This fight is now declared a no decision after James Toney has been tested positive for a banned substance.

 

John Ruiz has also comeout of retirement and will probably be rewarded his WBA title back.

 

James Toney has been suspended for 90 days and fined $10,000.

 

The substance did not help him win the fight as James Toney was out of shape for the fight anyways.

 

 

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Burning-Ice

It was very gay how Ruiz decided to come out of retirement, I bet he found out that Toney had tested positive and he just came back for the belt. The sad part of it is that the drugs were prescriped(sp?) by his doctor to repair his bicep/tricep injuries sustained in his last fight against Rydell Booker. The affects of the steroids would of worn off by July 23rd (which was the date of the fight when Toney was giving the steroids) but the fight was changed to May 30th. Eh I was pissed that Ruiz got his title back..he's just so boring to watch.

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Dan_1983

Yeah thats all it was,It was found in medication he was taking for his injuries.

 

Anyways 90 days will fly by,At the end he will have another test just for clarication sake that the substance has gone out of his system,I hope he keeps his weight down too.

I cannot imagine Boxing without the trash talking 230 pound midget.He is my favourite Heavyweight and one of my fav boxers.

 

Hopefully he will fight Chris Byrd when he comes back.

 

Who are your favourite Boxers burning ice?

 

 

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Burning-Ice

About Chris Byrd..he is going to fight someone called Serguei Lyakhovich. All in all I think Byrd is a pussy, he has been saved by bad decisions in his last 3 fights and doesn't deserve to be a champ. I really wanted Toney to unify the titles but now I must wait for someone else too. I hope Golota beats Brewster because again I don't think Brewster is that good. The heavyweight division needs to shape up and get rid of fighters like Ruiz, damn we were nearly so close to getting rid of that guy. And as for my favorite fighters, I don't know I have a lot, it depends on which division you are asking.

 

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About Chris Byrd..he is going to fight someone called Serguei Lyakhovich. All in all I think Byrd is a pussy, he has been saved by bad decisions in his last 3 fights and doesn't deserve to be a champ. I really wanted Toney to unify the titles but now I must wait for someone else too. I hope Golota beats Brewster because again I don't think Brewster is that good. The heavyweight division needs to shape up and get rid of fighters like Ruiz, damn we were nearly so close to getting rid of that guy. And as for my favorite fighters, I don't know I have a lot, it depends on which division you are asking.

Thats a replacement opponent as Byrd was gonna fight Toney in a WBA and IBF unification fight on 23rd of June.

 

I mean any division.

 

My favourites are Diego Corrales,James Toney,Marco Antonio Barrera.

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Burning-Ice

After the Corrales-Castillo fight, I immediatly became a big fan of them both. That was a unbelievable 10th round. Winky has always been one of my favorite fighters along with Manny Pacquio, Vitali Klitscho, Mike Tyson (he may be old but I'm still a fan of the guy) and Lightouts. Those are just a few of the fighers I like, as for Byrd..Why does he pick a relatively unknown fighter who most people do not know to replace Toney? Why didn't you pick people like maybe Calvin Brock or Wladmir Klitscko or Danny Williams. Just anyone who has some type of credibilty..Back to Toney..wasn't he only suspended from WBA? Can't he still fight for other titles or is he just suspended completely?

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After the Corrales-Castillo fight, I immediatly became a big fan of them both. That was a unbelievable 10th round. Winky has always been one of my favorite fighters along with Manny Pacquio, Vitali Klitscho, Mike Tyson (he may be old but I'm still a fan of the guy) and Lightouts. Those are just a few of the fighers I like, as for Byrd..Why does he pick a relatively unknown fighter who most people do not know to replace Toney? Why didn't you pick people like maybe Calvin Brock or Wladmir Klitscko or Danny Williams. Just anyone who has some type of credibilty..Back to Toney..wasn't he only suspended from WBA? Can't he still fight for other titles or is he just suspended completely?

He was suspended by the New York Boxing Comission i think which means he cannot box within those 90 days.

 

They are giving him 30 days to come up with an appeal which i dont think James will do.

 

I hope he trains and keeps himself in shape in those 90 days too.

 

James will be back but WBA rules state he cannot box for their version of the title for 2 years.

 

So no hope of Toney repeating his win over John Ruiz. sad.gif

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Burning-Ice

That sure is a shame, I just hope Ruiz doesn't keep his title in his next fight. July 23rd is going to be a big night, the Chris Byrd fight with Sergei for the IBF title and on the same night the Monte Barret/Hasim Rahman WBC(?) Interm Title.

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Tommy Corelli
I was hoping Toney would fight Tua....

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Burning-Ice

Ah I remember David Tua, I always loved watching his fights but I haven't seen him fight in a very long time sadly. My favorite Tua fight was when he fought Ruiz and he KOed Ruiz in the first 20 seconds of the right. Pure beauty. I had it on tape and just watched it over and over again smile.gif

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I was hoping Toney would fight Tua....

Tua is nearly toast. He is still a monster puncher but the guy is too slow for a guy like Toney that could dodge and slip punches all night if he wanted to. Lennox exposed Tua, and the great thing about the Lewis/Tua blueprint is that you dont have to be Lennox to use it!

 

I'll never forget the job Tua did on Ruiz back in the day though.. inlove.gif

 

 

@Burning Ice - Nice to see someone else is pretty big on boxing here. I used to try to post about it back in the day but nobody want to speak a word of it so I just started posting at an actual boxing forum. Now that a few people actually have some legit interest here, you should make a topic.

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Burning-Ice
I was hoping Toney would fight Tua....

Tua is nearly toast. He is still a monster puncher but the guy is too slow for a guy like Toney that could dodge and slip punches all night if he wanted to. Lennox exposed Tua, and the great thing about the Lewis/Tua blueprint is that you dont have to be Lennox to use it!

 

I'll never forget the job Tua did on Ruiz back in the day though.. inlove.gif

 

 

@Burning Ice - Nice to see someone else is pretty big on boxing here. I used to try to post about it back in the day but nobody want to speak a word of it so I just started posting at an actual boxing forum. Now that a few people actually have some legit interest here, you should make a topic.

Yeah, for the last couple of months I've sort of been a hardcore boxing fan but I have never seen any Boxing topics in this thread. I think I'll make a boxing discussion thread or whatever later, it's good to see some fans here who know what they are talking about.

What boxing forum do you post at? I had joined a boxing forum and that is a pretty big reason on how I became a big fan.

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Dan_1983

Boxing discussion thread is a good idea.

 

I'd certainly come on and add my 2 cents to it nearly everyday.

 

It is nice to see some fans here who knows what they are on about.

 

Tua was a brawler and thats all he was,He relied too much on his power is one dimensional.This was shown when he was outclassed and outboxed by Lennox Lewis.

 

I liked it when Tua ko'd Ruiz.

 

 

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menace2sobriety
I was hoping Toney would fight Tua....

Tua is nearly toast. He is still a monster puncher but the guy is too slow for a guy like Toney that could dodge and slip punches all night if he wanted to. Lennox exposed Tua, and the great thing about the Lewis/Tua blueprint is that you dont have to be Lennox to use it!

 

I'll never forget the job Tua did on Ruiz back in the day though.. inlove.gif

 

 

@Burning Ice - Nice to see someone else is pretty big on boxing here. I used to try to post about it back in the day but nobody want to speak a word of it so I just started posting at an actual boxing forum. Now that a few people actually have some legit interest here, you should make a topic.

Yeah, for the last couple of months I've sort of been a hardcore boxing fan but I have never seen any Boxing topics in this thread. I think I'll make a boxing discussion thread or whatever later, it's good to see some fans here who know what they are talking about.

What boxing forum do you post at? I had joined a boxing forum and that is a pretty big reason on how I became a big fan.

Ive been a huge fan since I was like 6, but hardcore only the last few years. Ive been posting at the Doghouse Boxing Forums alot. A good place to talk strictly boxing with a ton of people.

 

 

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Burning-Ice

Doghouse? Do you mean Dogpound because that is the one I use. I found that one a couple of months ago but never registered until after Toney/Ruiz fight because they wouldn't let guests view topics anymore.

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Doghouse? Do you mean Dogpound because that is the one I use. I found that one a couple of months ago but never registered until after Toney/Ruiz fight because they wouldn't let guests view topics anymore.

Yeah, ive been a member since September of last year or so.

 

Im jimcab.

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Burning-Ice

I don't post much on Dogpound but I read just about every topic. My name is OnePunchKO, I think I have less then 10 posts tounge.gif I see you like James Toney by your avatar, I am still pissed that he got stripped. That's life though eh.

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I don't post much on Dogpound but I read just about every topic. My name is OnePunchKO, I think I have less then 10 posts tounge.gif I see you like James Toney by your avatar, I am still pissed that he got stripped. That's life though eh.

Ahh yes. I post there quite a bit. Ive seen your screenname before.

 

Yeah, ive been a huge Toney fan for awhile. Im usually rocking a Toney or Hopkins avatar. Though lately ive also been wearing a picture of 'the dude' and an old comic book character called 'lobo'.

 

You should post there more often, though it is packed full of alot of bias nuthuggers, there are still alot of reasonable guys there too tounge.gif

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Yeah, I've noticed that there are some pretty stupid people there but there are also a lot of smart fans who have shown me very well put view points. The reason I became a 'better' boxing fan is definately because of Dogpound. I think I will post a bit more there.

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D Jones

I watched the fight to, but did anyone else notice that James Toney fat ass was hanging out of his damn boxing trunks? Kind of distrubing.

 

Ruiz is going to get beat up again..

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menace2sobriety
I watched the fight to, but did anyone else notice that James Toney fat ass was hanging out of his damn boxing trunks? Kind of distrubing.

 

Ruiz is going to get beat up again..

Yeah, Toney has been known to be out of shape from time to time, but this he has a legit excuse.

 

Usually a fighter will get two months at the very least to train for a big title fight, Toney took the Ruiz fight on 4 weeks notice, so he only got less than a month really to train. Thus looking hilariously chubby.

 

Then again, when you have the world class natural boxing talent that James Toney has, you dont need to come into every fight looking like Hercules. He could have drinken a 40oz bottle of Jack Daniels and still his counterpunching ability would have gotten him through tounge.gif

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Ruiz is a joke, I think if George Foreman came out of retirement and fought Ruiz..well Foreman would win sadly. It's not just Ruiz's style..I personally think he is a bitch. He retires because he does not 'love' boxing anymore and because the fans hate him (maybe cause he is hugging the fighters more then punching them) and then he comes back because he finds out that JT took steroids..basiclly just cause he wants his belt back.

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