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Ken_Rosenberg

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Ken_Rosenberg
@Black-Hawk - Thanks mate, but unfortunatly its a GTA St. Marina Exclusive which will not be released until the mod is released.

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Ken_Rosenberg

Astin James - Version 2

 

Here ya go guys...

 

Includes:

• Soul_courageous's texture (originally based on Monitor57's & Superfly's textures)

• Some Fixed Normals

 

EDIT: Once again screens would be very much appreciated. This will be the last public release before the St. Marinas release. New topic soon reporting on my vehicle modeling for St. Marinas. Remember to check it out... music.gif

 

EDIT2: If anyone is interested in the Fraud Model T just contact me on MSN cool.gif

Edited by Ken_Rosenberg

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bjiz

looking good ken!

 

reminds me of a beautiful qoute:

Q"How do you like your ladies?"

A"Shaven, not furred"

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Just to make sure everyone knows.. monitor 57 and superfy's textures was just used so i got the postion of my new textures right so that ken didnt have to re texture map it. the actual textures are all 100% mine except the spoked wheel that i found a pic of on the net it is not the same one as superflys.......

Pics on there way....

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Superfly Driver

Hey Ken, Your moddelling really is improving. Whats more impressive is that your sticking at it despite the stick you've been getting from people. Keep up the good work.

 

Also @ Monitor, lay off Ken, huh? confused.gif after all your textures are only slightly modified from Rockstars' and I see my muscle car wheel on almost every new car you make. This is not at dig at you I am just saying you don't need to be quite so protective. After all none of us ask permission from Rockstar to use their textures.

 

Now that I've said that I've probably incurred some huge lawsuit from Rockstar for all of us! Oh no!!! :hides: ph34r.gif

 

Btw, to both Monitor and Ken, I am developing a whole new line of wheels in Max (including an improved muscle wheels) with a standardised texture format of 128 x 128 that I will be giving to you lot for use on your cars. I will post some screens when I remember.

 

On a side note, My muscle car wheels on both your cars appear flat-shaded. You need to reattch the vertices when you export it to zmod so they look round and smooth again.

 

Lastly, Mon I think Ken here needs to be made a member of E.A.L.M. what do you think?

 

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Ken_Rosenberg

@ Superfly - Thanks mate. I would love to be a member of E.A.L.M. Please wow.gif

 

@ Soul_Courageous - I haven't used the wheel centre textures you found because i prefer the ones that came with the original release. Don't worry the wheel centre texture did not come from Superfly Driver. I found them on the internet on google. They look very similar to the ones Monitor used on his Cheetah but they have a centre spoke. smile.gif

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Monitor57

 

@ Superfly - Thanks mate. I would love to be a member of E.A.L.M. Please wow.gif

 

im not sure man, i mean i dont like being harsh on people but Ken still mirrors, he hasnt learnt how to "not" mirror, but im sure he'll learn soon, and im gna do more researchg into his methods of modeling.. then if im totaly persuaded then i have no problem with that smile.gif

 

 

 

just give it some time yeh? i mean afterall hes been a rapid learner and i grant him on that, but after testing his model theres still alot he needs to learn..

 

 

 

keep it up ken

 

 

[EDIT] i had a conversation with him, his goal is decided and he is on a voyage to low poly EALM style, just gna take some time but im helping him as much as i can thru it wink.gif

 

 

 

- M57

Edited by Monitor57

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PsychoFreak
What you mean? He still mirrors? Wtf?!?!?!

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Monitor57
What you mean? He still mirrors? Wtf?!?!?!

its where u mirror the car si it has a line of polys down the middle, now on most cars this is polywaste but it hassle to clear up so nobody does it but i do, and i think Sr did it on his ferry (i remember him saying) and R* did it, its an uber polysaver. but you wouldnt know anything about polysaving confused.gif

 

 

- M57

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Suction Testicle Man
What you mean? He still mirrors? Wtf?!?!?!

its where u mirror the car si it has a line of polys down the middle, now on most cars this is polywaste but it hassle to clear up so nobody does it but i do, and i think Sr did it on his ferry (i remember him saying) and R* did it, its an uber polysaver. but you wouldnt know anything about polysaving confused.gif

 

 

- M57

Actually it's only really worth doing on large, old American cars because of their boxy shape. Newer cars look sh*tty because they end up being laterally formed of 3 or 5 polys (presuming you are modeling teh lo-polly). Poly-saving techniques are only really necessary at over 10k anyway confused.gif

 

 

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Stefaan
Yeah monitor those 20 extra pollies in the middle are really going to kill your computer... this shows how much you know about computers and stuff..

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Monitor57
Yeah monitor those 20 extra pollies in the middle are really going to kill your computer... this shows how much you know about computers and stuff..

this shows how much u know about low poly. so stfu.

 

 

@ stm i agree, really round models do need to be mirrored, but only where needed... pretty much nobody on these forums apart from SD and DGT know the modeling techniques i use so im not even gna go into detail as u wudnt understand...

 

 

 

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- M57

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soul_courageous

Pics..... Incase your woundering I made some new new textures ther are 512x512 so i could get in some more details.. Ken if you'd prefer these then get on msn n il send um ya...

user posted image user posted image user posted image

 

-=-=-=-=-=-EDIT-=-=-=-=-=-

I know that the side vent is lower than it should be but If I higher it anymore you'l see it on the bonet too.

Edited by soul_courageous

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PsychoFreak
What you mean? He still mirrors? Wtf?!?!?!

its where u mirror the car si it has a line of polys down the middle, now on most cars this is polywaste but it hassle to clear up so nobody does it but i do, and i think Sr did it on his ferry (i remember him saying) and R* did it, its an uber polysaver. but you wouldnt know anything about polysaving confused.gif

 

 

- M57

Eh? Why doesn't he just unite the vertices then? bored.gif

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Suction Testicle Man

 

Yeah monitor those 20 extra pollies in the middle are really going to kill your computer... this shows how much you know about computers and stuff..

this shows how much u know about low poly. so stfu.

 

 

@ stm i agree, really round models do need to be mirrored, but only where needed... pretty much nobody on these forums apart from SD and DGT know the modeling techniques i use so im not even gna go into detail as u wudnt understand...

 

 

 

sarcasm.gif

 

 

- M57

Come on dude, give it a break. You've managed to invent some kind of style you have named 'low-poly', despite the fact recycling Vice City textures into it is vital to the completed finish - this kinda shows there is no real foundry behind this style - the name is even vague. Low poly is a term used to describe the amount of polygons on a CGI model, ranging from around 1k - 100k for vehicles. You know as well as I that there are very few 'modelling techniques', it's about slapping polygons together and texturing them - only practice makes you any good. This is the aspect to modelling that makes it like a sport.

 

But there is also an aspect of modelling that makes it an art. Art requires creative feeling and emotion that can be portrayed through material objects and your own compositions. Just like a painting, a good model could never be created by a computer alone, based on instructions. It requires a human soul behind it.

 

'Low poly' is an attribute of a model, it suggest an approximate range of possible polycounts for a model. Creating a car that is designed to not only have a low polycount, but actually look like it does is a new concept of your own creation. It's also illogical - these cars are being created for games that are advancing - more higher poly models can now be supported; we don't need lower detail cars, that's just retracing our footsteps.

 

Some of your models look great, and you have talent, but it's important to establish that deliberately reducing the ergonomic beauty of a model so you can display a statistic that can become a personal trait is insane. Polygons are there to be used. It's impressive to see a model that looks great but has a polycount that was unexpectedly low - but a model that looks like it was made using 50 polygons, and actually was, is a little disappointing.

 

We also need to establish that modelling a car with a low poly count is easier than modelling a car with a high poly count. Any 'poly-saving techniques' ('poly-saving' being another sickening corruption of a means of actually transmitting an impression of any skill) will, like Stef said, save you 50 polys max. on a good poly structure, maybe 100 on a slightly worse one. However, these techniques could be learned, remembered, and administered by an ape. The skill of modelling lies in creating a physically accurate representation of and idea of real-life object. Technical statistics come second.

 

Basically Monitor, I wish I didn't have to say this, but you have no right to be flaming and flaunting yourself around as a skilled artist among people that are more skilled than yourself.

 

 

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ViperKing

Perfectly put STM, pay close attention here mon.

 

heres what he means PsychoFreak.

 

user posted image

(i dont care if you can do it with 10less polys-its a quick example)

omfg I saved so many polys!!

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PsychoFreak

I think it's fair to say...Monitor57 is pwned and thus so shall be ass kicked. Because me and STm have been telling him to change his ways, but does he listen? nay!

 

 

Off with his head! - Random Queen

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Ken_Rosenberg

user posted image

Just a pic i took. And before any one says anything, the car on the left is Monitors Bullit and it kicks arse.

 

@ STM & Viperking & PsychoFreak - I understand perfectly. If i didn't mirror the body i would only save 20 polys tops! confused.gif

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Monitor57

tehn u may not be in ealm.. simple, and to the rest of u, f*ck you. simply, im seriously close to just pissing off these forums and not saying anything about it when it happens i mean ffs, im 14 i could be doing much better things with my time rather making models and handing them out for free and not even getting f*ck all back apart from aloada sh*t that i dont even want.

 

ken, u disapoint me.

 

 

 

- M57

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Ken_Rosenberg
Christ all's i say is that i like mirroring and th guy goes ballistic. I haven't critisied you and your style or anything i was agreeing to that fact that people understand that if i want to mirror my models i can. Anyway we've straid from the topic so lets return to normal shall we.

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Xyzar
tehn u may not be in ealm.. simple, and to the rest of u, f*ck you. simply, im seriously close to just pissing off these forums and not saying anything about it when it happens i mean ffs, im 14 i could be doing much better things with my time rather making models and handing them out for free and not even getting f*ck all back apart from aloada sh*t that i dont even want.

 

ken, u disapoint me.

 

 

 

- M57

<!-- if you hate us all so much, why are you still around? -->

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tehn u may not be in ealm.. simple, and to the rest of u, f*ck you. simply, im seriously close to just pissing off these forums and not saying anything about it when it happens i mean ffs, im 14 i could be doing much better things with my time rather making models and handing them out for free and not even getting f*ck all back apart from aloada sh*t that i dont even want.

 

ken, u disapoint me.

 

 

 

- M57

oh quit your bitching and f*ck off already then.. you've already been replaced anyway.. if it's so bad. leave.

 

ken, you're improving quite a bit with each new car.. keep at it.. and dont change what you do for anyone if it's not what you WANT to do.

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Ken_Rosenberg
I dont know what's happened to Monitor57 but he's changed his Signature and gone offline... dontgetit.gif

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Diesel

Mon, you're a good guy but you flip out and start killing people WAY too easy. You're not a ninja, mate. (bonus points to those who catch the reference)

 

Stop taking sh*t so seriously. Step back and realise the ridiculousness of what you're shouting about. Nobody attacked you, but when you started flinging the feces, they did. You brought it upon yourself, no?

 

Also, don't give us that "I'm doing you all a favour" sh*te. Everyone else is in exactly the same position as you. And you know you model for the fun of it, not for everyone else's benefit; just like the rest of us. Everyone gets the highs and the lows sometimes; but everyone else seems to be capable of dealing with it.

 

 

edit: ooooh drama thread! catspider.gif

Edited by DieselGT

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Tchuck

He's just gonna whore some attention out... Like he did last time... He'll soon make a topic in general chat about how he is going to stop comming here and stuff...

 

On topic, looks a lot better, you have improved a lot since your first car ken, keep the good work wink.gif

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Sin5k4

oh sry guys double post...

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Dal

Yeah, the E-drama from the whiney little bitch who left and returned before...

You keep on acting as if we owe YOU something, in all conclusions - no.

 

Ken, have you thought on blending the tyre wall texture with the edge of the tread? it stands out too much. Have you also not tried the SA type reflection map? im sure it would look better than those crappy dotted ones. Decent job nonetheless.

 

- Dal

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Ken_Rosenberg
which reflection is it Dal? is that the one with the thick line through the middle. Anyway thanksguys...

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-GRAVITY2-
I think that monitor is gone. And ken you skills are good enough to stay in the mod but its your choice.

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bjiz
tehn u may not be in ealm.. simple, and to the rest of u, f*ck you. simply, im seriously close to just pissing off these forums and not saying anything about it when it happens i mean ffs, im 14 i could be doing much better things with my time rather making models and handing them out for free and not even getting f*ck all back apart from aloada sh*t that i dont even want.

 

ken, u disapoint me.

 

 

 

- M57

Mon, you suck...sorry to say it like this here, but you really really suck at being social...your models are ok, but not THAT great, there are people here that make better models, with less poly's. We all are wasting our time to eachother here and NO-one gets anything back (ok ok, I got a job thanx to that jag tounge.gif, but that has nothing to do with the forums).

 

So..if you wanna go...good bye

 

we have a new one, and he's also a nicer guy!!! I present you: Ken !!! smile.gif

 

I told you you were getting better Ken, this looks even better than the jag, that looked even better than the merc etc....

 

keep up the good work !!

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