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adamcs

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We're looking for people with a good knowledge of seo rankings.

 

Our site (GTASanAndreas.NET) is performing very well on the Yahoo! and MSN search engines:

 

 

Yahoo! - KEYWORDS RANK MSN - KEYWORDS RANK
GTA San Andreas News 1 GTA San Andreas News 1
GTA San Andreas Walkthrough 1 GTA San Andreas Walkthrough 16
GTA San Andreas Gangs 2 GTA San Andreas Gangs 1
On Google however, it's a whole different story. We can't even get in the top 1000 results for 'GTA San Andreas News'. So erm, yeah, in some way or another we aren't 'Google Friendly'. We are being listed on Google, but we're being listed for irrelevant keywords, so that seems to be the problem.

 

Looking for somebody to repair our site/identify the problem and improve our rankings.

 

It is impossible for us to endorse anyone financially, but we will be very thankful and karma may be rewarded. tounge.gif

 

Reply, PM me, or mail me if you think you can help.

 

Thanks.

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We are being listed on Google, but we're being listed for irrelevant keywords, so that seems to be the problem.

Type in GTAforums and Emsixteen's site comes up. tounge.gif

 

How do we get us higher ranked up on google?

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You need a lot of people linked to here through other websites. Basically we just need to be affiliated everywhere and we should get better results.

 

Either that or people can pay for an ad on google, but the first method might be easier.

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You need a lot of people linked to here through other websites. Basically we just need to be affiliated everywhere and we should get better results.

 

Either that or people can pay for an ad on google, but the first method might be easier.

GTANET's websites already have very high page rankings with google though, and lots of affiliates, and links from very reputable sites. To be honest, it can't be the page rank that's causing the sites not to be high up in the results, since it's apparently a high one. I've looked for a while at why this is happening, and to no avail, can't see any reason at all.

 

As for paying for an ad, doesn't actually get you higher in the results, just gets you stuck next to the results, and enough money flies around for the server I think, to have to pay for an ad with google as well would be a lot.

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<meta name="KEYWORDS" content="gta, san, andreas, game, grand, theft, auto, art, screenshots, news, rockstar, games, north, forums, forum, video, walkthrough, guide, contest, giveaway, soundtrack, san andreas, grand theft auto, radio, ps2, playstation, pc, xbox, release date, rumors, articles, story, features, previews, reviews, characters, los santos, san fierro, las venturas, flash map, 100%, cheats, gangs, weapons, swimming, desktops, official">

 

There's your problem, chief.

 

Just remove all that crap. It might seem relevant to you but the home page of gtasanandreas.net has nothing on the topic of things like screenshots, or a forum, or a walkthrough, and so on. Links to said material do not count. If people are looking for SA cheats, they should get the cheats page. I'd be surprised if google didn't punish pages for spiderfood spam, seeing as how only content-free "free porn" sites use it.

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Type in GTAforums and Emsixteen's site comes up. tounge.gif

Hehe, I even put a forwarding page to GTAForums on it a while ago when I noticed that it was so high up on the results smile.gif How nice of me is that, eh? wink.gif If you'd like I'll stick a link to each of the sites on GTANet on that directory.

 

• Make a site map. It increases the number of internal links to each page, too.

• Make a good META description.. Google ignores META tags but doesn't the description.

• Get important sites (Googlerank wise) to link to GTASanAndreas.net.. The more important a site which links to it, the more influencial. However, sometimes you can be penalised, with link-farms etc being all too commonplace.

• Put relevant ALT tags on all the images.

• Reduce the size of that META tag! Keep keywords to around ten. Make sure the keywords can actually be found on the site.

 

Erm, that alrighty?

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First of all, I can put a link on my website. It may not help much but who knows. Secondly, we sould start makind an affiliate section on the bottom. That will show other websites "Hey, we care about your website too." Just some suggestions, don't need any flamming. And I, myself, think this is very strange. We have many members and then some. The boards are busy basically 24/7. I'll come up with more suggestions later, my sister is throwing my offline. See yas in a bit!
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First of all, I can put a link on my website. It may not help much but who knows. Secondly, we sould start makind an affiliate section on the bottom. That will show other websites "Hey, we care about your website too." Just some suggestions, don't need any flamming. And I, myself, think this is very strange. We have many members and then some. The boards are busy basically 24/7. I'll come up with more suggestions later, my sister is throwing my offline. See yas in a bit!

GTASanAndreas.net has a large collection of affiliates already.

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Maybe change the description would help. I mean, c'mon.

GTAForums is the home to the Grand Theft Auto community. Currently featuring

discussion on the upcoming GTA San Andreas! ... Welcome to GTAForums! ...

Maybe something with, "Join the fun! Grand Theft Auto 24/7. Also, some off-topic whenever you want! Different sections to go through. Choose yur favorite!"

 

Yea. My suggestions kinda suck. But, my website was able to make it onto Google, second page of Hotbot, and first page of search.com. But that's my website. We should put some kind of "Pass It On" gear on the site. You can find them on a Lycos site. Basically, members can email there friends telling them about the site. It would definitely boost traffic. Maybe even our stats on Google.

Anyway's, here's the website for the thing. It's free (make sure you sign-up). Some Lycos site I found

 

P.S. Since I was talking about my website, i'd like to say that my site has officially reached over 3,500 visitors. I'm happy tounge2.gif

 

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I thought Google didn't consider META tags?

They don't consider it positively, I know that, but I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they took points off for having way too many. Like I said, most sites that use huge piles of meta keywords are crappy content-free "sites" that just advertise crap.

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I thought Google didn't consider META tags?

When I said about reducing the META tag it was because they take off points for excessive ones.. And when I said about the keyword thing, I think I really meant the keywords in the description wink.gif

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Google doesn't have much control over what appears in the search engine results. The only people that do are the webmasters (responcible for the content), traffic (responcible for giving the site a better PageRank/Alexa Rank and just, well - traffic), and GoogleBot (the little guy that spiders everything). If you did email Google - they'd want you to purchase something (like Adwords - which is good and will benefit, but it costs a hell of a lot of money and I heard they keep charging you, even when you get in the negative dollar figures). Edited by Barbaneez
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<meta name="KEYWORDS" content="gta, san, andreas, game, grand, theft, auto, art, screenshots, news, rockstar, games, north, forums, forum, video, walkthrough, guide, contest, giveaway, soundtrack, san andreas, grand theft auto, radio, ps2, playstation, pc, xbox, release date, rumors, articles, story, features, previews, reviews, characters, los santos, san fierro, las venturas, flash map, 100%, cheats, gangs, weapons, swimming, desktops, official">

 

There's your problem, chief.

 

Just remove all that crap. It might seem relevant to you but the home page of gtasanandreas.net has nothing on the topic of things like screenshots, or a forum, or a walkthrough, and so on. Links to said material do not count. If people are looking for SA cheats, they should get the cheats page. I'd be surprised if google didn't punish pages for spiderfood spam, seeing as how only content-free "free porn" sites use it.

I was just gonna say that smile.gif

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ok...

 

PageRank performs an objective measurement of the importance of web pages by solving an equation of more than 500 million variables and 2 billion terms. Instead of counting direct links, PageRank interprets a link from Page A to Page B as a vote for Page B by Page A. PageRank then assesses a page's importance by the number of votes it receives.

 

You may want to check and see if the number of other sites linking to your URL has changed. This is the single biggest factor in determining what sites are indexed by Google, as they find most pages when their robots crawl the web and jump from page to page via hyperlinks. To find out who links to your site, use Google's link: tool.

 

Simply, get more affiliates.

 

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also cut down your page headers, as ed saiid, search bots and sites tend to disapprove of that sh*t tounge.gif

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WIP topics come up from our Editing Showroom first page of google results with startling regularity for me. I'm unsure if the problem you're having is internal or external so to speak, but there might be some reason behind this that you could exaggerate somehow?

 

It's over my head, good luck with it rampage_ani.gif

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WIP topics come up from our Editing Showroom first page of google results with startling regularity for me. I'm unsure if the problem you're having is internal or external so to speak, but there might be some reason behind this that you could exaggerate somehow?

 

It's over my head, good luck with it rampage_ani.gif

Probably because it's simply the most linked to/viewed topic I'd guess?

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At long last, we know the cause! tounge.gif

 

 

PR is not your problem. Your site is in the dreaded sandbox. try searching gta san andreas news and adding this jibberish to the end: gta san andreas news -sdfsdfq -ddsf -dsfsqdf -dqdfqsdf -dqfsdfqsd -sqdfqsd -sdfsdqfqsdf -sqdfqsdfqs -qsdfqsdf -sdfsqdfqsdf -sqfqsdfqsd -sdfqsdfsq -sdfqsdfsdf -qsdfqsdf

Your site will come up in 1st place, which means that its sandboxed. Only time can help your rankings in google.

 

 

I reported recently on a Google ranking phenomenon in which newly listed sites rank well for two to three weeks and then drop completely out of the top 1000. Often these newly dropped sites have high page rank and don't show for even the least competitive of terms.

 

One Cre8asite poster who's also a WebMasterWorld member reported that, "the problem is with sites that are more than two months old but first went online this year."

 

Barry Schwarz of the SEORoundTable calls this the "sandbox effect," meaning that new sites are placed in a sandbox (where they can all play nicely away from the real sites). He recently reported a means of showing a site's pre-sandbox results.

 

"We have found that by adding seven exclusion parameters to the search query, the pre-sandbox results are displayed."

 

JohnScott offered an opinion based on a source who used to work with a current Google employee.

 

"The probation does not apply to new sites. It applies to links. When the algorithm was deployed certain older links were grandfathered in. After that, links will be (are being) given partial credit, and be essentially on 'probation.'"

 

"It applies to links, not sites. And the age of the link is not the only factor. The IP range of the links and other considerations are made, and the person who I discussed this with said that Krishna Bharat is at Google primarily to develop and implement this new algorithm. It is supposed to radically change the way links are evaluated."

 

ProjectPHP speculated on why Google might have instituted this policy. His top reason: "hinder (not stop though) the old a) buy domains, b) build spam sites, c) get banned, d) repeat methodology, as it makes it far riskier (will the site last three months??), and far more expensive (need more sites in the "pipeline")."

 

Thanks to everybody for the help, though.

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Jebus.. That's bloody crap, especially for sites which are newly listed and for specific events, in this case the release and subsequent discussion and posting of news relating to San Andreas. I wonder how long it'll take..
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3-6 months apparently cryani.gif

 

These are the rankings we WOULD have had, if it weren't for that sandbox thingy:

 

 

Keywords: gta san andreas

Position: 3

 

Keywords: gta san andreas cheats

Position: 1

 

Keywords: san andreas

Position: 9

 

Keywords: san andreas cheats

Position: 1

 

Keywords: san andreas walkthrough

Position: 9

 

Keywords: san andreas gangs

Position: 1

 

Keywords: san andreas news

Position: 2

 

Keywords: san an

Position: 1

 

Keywords: san andreas characters

Position: 3

 

Keywords: san andreas help

Position: 6

I think I'm going to cry.

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I see you did find your problem, and I think we should all cry.

 

However, you might want to add this code to your header and see how often google calls:

 

<?php$email = "[email protected]";if(eregi("googlebot",$_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'])){mail($email, "The Googlebot came to call","Google has visited: ".$_SERVER['REQUEST_URI']);}?>

 

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