immessedup17 2 Posted January 10, 2005 Well, guys, Hot Stove season is in full swing, the NFL is about over, and Spring Training starts in just over a month. It is time for this topic to be made. The trade/free agent rumors grow more and more every day, enough now for where this topic can be active. So, go ahead, talk about your favorite team, players you think will make an impact, and other such things. Cubbies, WS 05. The Cubs have to land an outfielder, either Mags or Beltran. If they can trade Sosa to clear up some money, that would help too. They also need a closer, and right now they are looking at Dotel. I think he would be a decent addition to the bullpen. Borowski being healthy will also help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phatgordo13 2,046 Posted January 10, 2005 Well, guys, Hot Stove season is in full swing, the NFL is about over, and Spring Training starts in just over a month. It is time for this topic to be made. The trade/free agent rumors grow more and more every day, enough now for where this topic can be active. So, go ahead, talk about your favorite team, players you think will make an impact, and other such things. Cubbies, WS 05. The Cubs have to land an outfielder, either Mags or Beltran. If they can trade Sosa to clear up some money, that would help too. They also need a closer, and right now they are looking at Dotel. I think he would be a decent addition to the bullpen. Borowski being healthy will also help. If the Cubs sign Mags. I WILL guarentee a title for next year. Coming to Chicago. Big year for Chicago this year. North side and south side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Keyes 0 Posted January 10, 2005 Dotel was much more effective as a setup man and he couldn't seem to keep his emotions in check when employed as a closer last season. And by most reports, it looks like Beltran's going to be with the Mets. IMO he's not worth $119 anyway. Even though he tore up the postseason, he's a very streaky hitter and that showed when he cooled off in the last two or three games of the NLCS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immessedup17 2 Posted January 10, 2005 Dotel was much more effective as a setup man and he couldn't seem to keep his emotions in check when employed as a closer last season. And by most reports, it looks like Beltran's going to be with the Mets. IMO he's not worth $119 anyway. Even though he tore up the postseason, he's a very streaky hitter and that showed when he cooled off in the last two or three games of the NLCS. Yes, I just heard this on ESPN Radio, right before Todd Wright came on. Surprised me a bit, but yeah, they definitely overpaid. Same as they did with Pedro. And Mets are cursed anyways, the more they spend, the more games they lose. So now the Cubs pretty much have to get Mags. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Love Anna Kournikova 1,977 Posted January 10, 2005 Giants=World seies baby! we got Moises alou, mike matheny, Armondo benitez. The Giants will beat the Yankees this year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phatgordo13 2,046 Posted January 10, 2005 Dotel was much more effective as a setup man and he couldn't seem to keep his emotions in check when employed as a closer last season. And by most reports, it looks like Beltran's going to be with the Mets. IMO he's not worth $119 anyway. Even though he tore up the postseason, he's a very streaky hitter and that showed when he cooled off in the last two or three games of the NLCS. Yes, I just heard this on ESPN Radio, right before Todd Wright came on. Surprised me a bit, but yeah, they definitely overpaid. Same as they did with Pedro. And Mets are cursed anyways, the more they spend, the more games they lose. So now the Cubs pretty much have to get Mags. Thats the only logical thing that comes to mind. Cubs HAVE to pick up Mags. What the hell else are they waiting for? Waiting for someone to scoop Sosa? I dont understand why theyre the only team in MLB not making any moves. Mags is gonna cost a pretty penny. Not as much as the Bull sh*t Beltran deal is but still a phat stack of lute. @ILAK - Look at duuuuude over here! Talkin dumb! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immessedup17 2 Posted January 10, 2005 But at least the Giants are making moves..... Im sure the Cubs will put a couple of decent deals together, but I don't like how they are going about the offseason so nonchallantly. Hendry has always been the aggressive type... I think Moises is going to have a very bad, injury plagued season in 05, by the way. I just get that feeling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noodles 1 Posted January 10, 2005 Yeah Beltran's a Met by all reports. I'm really surprised that there's been so little talk about Magglio this off season. Granted the guy is coming off of an injury, but he's a potent hitter. He'll be a big pickup considering how late he'll be aquired. @ IMU and PG13 What's the word in Chicago on Sosa? Are they keeping him or are they still entertaining trade offers. I've heard that all of the possible suitors have asked the Cubs to be responsible for the majority of the contract. It's to early for season predictions so how about a list of some valuable free agents still avaiable: Magglio Ordonez Carlos Delgado Derek Lowe Jeremy Burnitz Esteban Loiza There are other role players on free agency but those are probably the best available guys. I'm a Yankee fan by the way. *braces for the abuse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immessedup17 2 Posted January 10, 2005 Noodles, the word on Sosa is they want to get rid of him, but as you said, the Cubs would have to hold on to a lot of the contract. So, its possible he might be wearing Cubbie blue, but he will be schooled on what his role on the team will be, and it wouldnt be leader or a 3-hole hitter. Probably not even 4. So, yeah, we will have to wait and see about this... The Mets were really interested, but they got Beltran, so probably not anymore. Now Washington is interested, LA, and a couple of other teams. But, doesn't look too promising... Cubs still have to go after Mags though, Sosa can play left. If we can't get Mags, we have to get Burnitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Love Anna Kournikova 1,977 Posted January 11, 2005 Derek Lowe meh, hes a has been Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJ San Andreas 0 Posted January 11, 2005 Pedro Martinez + Carlos Beltran = Mets best off-seaon ever. I can't wait for opening day. I love the Mets this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mazzocchi 0 Posted January 11, 2005 Pedro Martinez + Carlos Beltran = Mets best off-seaon ever. I can't wait for opening day. I love the Mets this year. i've always loved the mets..... i'm jsut not too proud in admiting it.... untill this season -The Turtle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phatgordo13 2,046 Posted January 11, 2005 If we can't get Mags, we have to get Burnitz. Oh God, Sign me or you before Burnitz. Please. The man has seen better days and that was in milwaukee. That doesnt say much. @CJ San Andreas - Yah theyre really building off of alot. The Mets are garbage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Keyes 0 Posted January 11, 2005 wtf... I just saw on the Astros site talk about trading Brandon Backe for Alfonso Soriano. Bullsh*t. Wade Miller is gone, Clemens is probably leaving, and now there's talk of trading last year's biggest surprise on the Astros rotation for a defensively weak and unspirited 2nd baseman during a rebuilding season. I say start prospect Chris Burke at second until Berkman returns, then move Biggio back to second and have Burke fill in during the late innings. You're all complaining about how the Cubs haven't added any new players yet this offseason, and the Astros haven't done so either but they've also lost 2 out of 4 All-Stars from last season, while the third will probably retire and the fourth (Berkman) won't be ready opening day because he injured himself playing flag football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immessedup17 2 Posted January 11, 2005 Well, wait, I thought the Mets had one of those super badass offseasons a couple of years ago. When they got Glavine, and those other guys. What happened that year? lol. The Mets always have a high payroll, but they still don't win. Something always happens. And Pedro is washed up, in case you didnt get THAT memo. The rumor right now is Sosa for Cliff Floyd. I would take that... An even $$$ trade for this season, and then next season, we pay a little of Sosa's $19 million. I think this could work out. Then if we got Mags, our outfield would be pretty damn decent. Barrett Lee Walker Garciaparra Ramirez Floyd Patterson Ordonez (pitcher) Not in that order of course. That could be a pretty potent line-up, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I Love Anna Kournikova 1,977 Posted January 12, 2005 The cubs aint even gonna make the playoffs eric. dont know why you are all excited in sh*t? <3 teh Giants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunda 0 Posted January 12, 2005 We all know the Yankees are going to win it ig this year, now that they got Tino Martinez back (my favorite player). Now hopefully, they'll get rid of Giambi already . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immessedup17 2 Posted January 12, 2005 We all know the Yankees are going to win it ig this year, now that they got Tino Martinez back (my favorite player). Now hopefully, they'll get rid of Giambi already . Boston is going to kick ass again this year. That will be one tough division. Meanwhile, the Cubs division looks way easier than it did last year, so I'm hoping for a good year. It is still way before the season starts, a lot of time for teams to make moves. I'm always excited and the beginning of a new Cubs season though, no matter how well they are projected to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniper. 0 Posted January 12, 2005 Go Boston. Enough said. Im saying back to back or atleast their going to the ALCS. Theres to all those Bosotn Fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phatgordo13 2,046 Posted January 12, 2005 We all know the Yankees are going to win it ig this year, now that they got Tino Martinez back (my favorite player). Now hopefully, they'll get rid of Giambi already . Boston is going to kick ass again this year. That will be one tough division. Meanwhile, the Cubs division looks way easier than it did last year, so I'm hoping for a good year. It is still way before the season starts, a lot of time for teams to make moves. I'm always excited and the beginning of a new Cubs season though, no matter how well they are projected to do. Now that the Stros let go of Beltran they might unload the older talent. The Bagwells, Berkmens, etc. At least thats what Ive been reading and what have you. If the Cubs dont pick up Mags or some how make other pick ups.....I wont be projecting them to go any further than a wild card team. Wild Card only because no one else will get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Keyes 0 Posted January 12, 2005 We all know the Yankees are going to win it ig this year, now that they got Tino Martinez back (my favorite player). Now hopefully, they'll get rid of Giambi already . Boston is going to kick ass again this year. That will be one tough division. Meanwhile, the Cubs division looks way easier than it did last year, so I'm hoping for a good year. It is still way before the season starts, a lot of time for teams to make moves. I'm always excited and the beginning of a new Cubs season though, no matter how well they are projected to do. Now that the Stros let go of Beltran they might unload the older talent. The Bagwells, Berkmens, etc. At least thats what Ive been reading and what have you. Doubtful. The Astros brass doesn't seem to want to accept that 2005 is going to be a rebuilding season. Bagwell, Biggio, and Ausmus are all going to be around for at least one more year, and there's been rumors of trading away some of the Astros' prospects and young promising players such as Chris Burke, Jason Lane, and Brandon Backe for the likes of players like Soriano and Mike Cameron. Meanwhile Berkman is probably going to wind up being a franchise player. He's a native Texan and fan favorite so that's probably why management wants to build the team around him. The Stros aren't going to let him go, and if they do, it won't be this season because right now they're in dire need of outfielders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CJ San Andreas 0 Posted January 13, 2005 The Astros won't be re-signing Roger Clemens, since Beltran left. I hope the Mets can add a veteran bat at 1st base. *c'mon Carlos Delgado* If they can sign Delgado, I think they'll have a legit chance to contend for the N.L. East title. Here's the Mets projected Line-Up: 1 Jose Reyes SS 2 Kaz Matsui 2B 3 Carlos Beltran CF 4 Mike Piazza C 5 Mike Cameron RF 6 David Wright 3B 7 Cliff Floyd LF 8 *empty* 1B 9 Pedro Martinez SP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBizz6 1 Posted January 13, 2005 Sorry to spoil all of this Cubs stuff but....Red sox will repeat in 05. haha bitches. Red Sox Pwn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phatgordo13 2,046 Posted January 13, 2005 The Astros won't be re-signing Roger Clemens, since Beltran left. I hope the Mets can add a veteran bat at 1st base. *c'mon Carlos Delgado*If they can sign Delgado, I think they'll have a legit chance to contend for the N.L. East title. Here's the Mets projected Line-Up: 1 Jose Reyes SS 2 Kaz Matsui 2B 3 Carlos Beltran CF 4 Mike Piazza C 5 Mike Cameron RF 6 David Wright 3B 7 Cliff Floyd LF 8 *empty* 1B 9 Pedro Martinez SP Yah the Mets had a stacked roster last year....but the Mets never showed up. For the past....10 years the Yankees have had a stacked roster and how many years have they been pre season picks to win it all? How many times have they? Not to knock their accomplishments because they have been outstanding, but it goes to show that money cant (prolly best to say, doesnt always) buy championships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheUtero 0 Posted January 14, 2005 Yeah, sorry to say but the Mets are once again going to spend all that money on Pedro and Beltran this year and still end up losing the pennant to the Braves. The Mets can sign all the all-stars they want but as long as the Braves have the same great coaches while the Mets don't, the Braves will triumph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthYENIK 8,783 Posted January 14, 2005 I'm really really pissed at the managment of my team, the ANAHEIM Angels. They are basically smacking all of us non-Los Angeles angels fans in the face (especially those of us in orange county) by changing the name. Not only that, but they got rid of Troy Glaus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immessedup17 2 Posted January 14, 2005 Hey now, at least you guys still have the LOWEST beer prices in the league. You have NO right to complain. I'd be straight pissed if I were an Angels fan though. Still on the Mets subject, Utero is correct. The Braves always find ways to get it done, and the coaching staff is a huge reason. They manage to keep it intact year in and year out, for the most part. Cubs and Mets are talking Sosa/Floyd trade still. I doubt it'll happen, but I wouldn't mind if it went down. Clear up a little money for us anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anuj 154 Posted January 14, 2005 I'm really really pissed at the managment of my team, the ANAHEIM Angels. They are basically smacking all of us non-Los Angeles angels fans in the face (especially those of us in orange county) by changing the name. Not only that, but they got rid of Troy Glaus. lmfao. I can't believe they named it the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Whoever wrote that naming stipulation on the contract deserves a boot in the nuts. @topic - I was so optimistic when I saw "BREAKING NEWS: Players and League agree to stricter steroid testing." I was like "omg yay no more stupid assholes". And then I watched the news conference and was like "What the f*ck?" It would be a lot better if the first offense was 30 days, and then 15 day increments from that. It would give a LOT more incentive to stay clean, seeing as how you'd lose a tremendous chunk of your season just for being caught ONCE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Over The Wall 37 Posted January 14, 2005 The Astros won't be re-signing Roger Clemens, since Beltran left. I hope the Mets can add a veteran bat at 1st base. *c'mon Carlos Delgado*If they can sign Delgado, I think they'll have a legit chance to contend for the N.L. East title. Here's the Mets projected Line-Up: 1 Jose Reyes SS 2 Kaz Matsui 2B 3 Carlos Beltran CF 4 Mike Piazza C 5 Mike Cameron RF 6 David Wright 3B 7 Cliff Floyd LF 8 *empty* 1B 9 Pedro Martinez SP Yah the Mets had a stacked roster last year....but the Mets never showed up. For the past....10 years the Yankees have had a stacked roster and how many years have they been pre season picks to win it all? How many times have they? Not to knock their accomplishments because they have been outstanding, but it goes to show that money cant (prolly best to say, doesnt always) buy championships. Well you obviously can't go out and buy a championship, they are not for sale. Compiling a team of all-stars doesn't guarentee a championship either, but the Yankees have been a playoff team for the last 8-9 years. That's simply remarkable. The past 10 years for example starting with 94- the Strike year 94- Were not projected to win it all, but were leading AL at the strike 95- Knocked out in first round of playoffs vs Mariners (heh when to game 3 with Jim Leyritz smacking that 13th inning 3 run HR for the win. He was 0-5 on the night, and came up in extra frames and ended it with a swing) 96- won it all, weren't projected to win it 97- playoffs, not sure if projected or not 98- projected and won 99-projected and won 00- projected and won 01- projected and lost to Diamondbacks in WS 02- not sure, but lost to Anaheim in ALDS? 03- not sure, but lost to Marlins in WS 04- Split projections with sox, lost to sox in ALCS 05- ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anuj 154 Posted January 14, 2005 What do you mean, you can't buy a championship? That's what Boston did this year. And New York in 98-00. Having a high payroll is definitely a silent plus when it comes to playoff time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
