K^2 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 (edited) Sorry K^2 but you're completely wrong here. My last calculations said that with a rate of only 10^1 codes per sec it would take 3 years 333...and these calculations are 100% correct! I'm sure you didn't study mathematics, did you? Well, I did...so.. sorry, everyone makes a mistake, but just to clear up with 10^4 codes a second it would need (1/100) * 3 years 333 days... if it's that fast....but oh well.. as I already said, sorry didn' mean to insult you, but maybe I made a mistake, but I dont believe (I checked it through)... so, just to clear up I have taken classes in calculus, analysis, partial differential equations and calculus of variation, just to show where I stand on the mathematics. My major is Physics, and I focus on Quantum Mechanics, which takes quite a bit of applied math, so I know more math than most people have dreamt of. And unless you are at least a Senior on the Mathematics major, I doubt you know more mathematics than I do. The combinations are up to 12 buttons in length, which means that if you don't search all 12 button combinations, you might miss one. There are 12 keys which can be used, and the order matters, so there are a total of 12^12 or 8,916,100,448,256 (~9*10^12) combinations. At 10^4 combinations per second, it will take 891,610,044.8256 seconds to go through all combinations. There are 365.242 days in an average year (because of leapyears). And there are 86,400 seconds in a day, which gives you 31,556,908.8 seconds in an average year. 891,610,044.8256 / 31,556,908.8 = 28.254 years to go through all combinations. At the maximum rate of 10^7 combinations, it will be 1000 times faster, or 10.32 days. EDIT: Oh and K^2, sorry. I was wrong, my calculations would've been right if one code consisted of only different buttons, so no double buttons lolThat's why I didn't see a mistake because I thought if I made a mistake, then it would've been a calculative mistake, but actually I calculated as if every code consisted of only different buttons. But if you can press buttons twice or thrice or whatever (which is actually the case) then there are far more combos and that's why your calculations are right. sorry for that So you did 12! instead of 12^12 combinations? That would do it. Edited January 13, 2005 by K^2 Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krnjun Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 EDIT: Oh and K^2, sorry. I was wrong, my calculations would've been right if one code consisted of only different buttons, so no double buttons lolThat's why I didn't see a mistake because I thought if I made a mistake, then it would've been a calculative mistake, but actually I calculated as if every code consisted of only different buttons. But if you can press buttons twice or thrice or whatever (which is actually the case) then there are far more combos and that's why your calculations are right. sorry for that lol, Thrice huh.. BTW I hope there is a cheat called "Unlimited Fly Height" so I can see the space.. jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDR Midian Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Maybe car-surfing on a Tanker or Packer would make it easy to stay on once the car starts to go down.. I'm not sure how well they fly, but they have places you could stand on as the car starts to drop. Another thing.. this sounds ridiculous.. but has anyone had a look to see if the Cars Fly cheat affects the train at all? If not then damn. I really want to be able to have more fun with that stupid boring train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignothing Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 (edited) Edisoncarter you are my hero. Thank you. I've been following this thread and was intrigued at how edisoncarter finds the cheats, not just the hardware hookup but analyzing the audio log. Pure genius. Brilliant. EDIT: The remainder of this lengthy post has been removed. I had some speculation about the "Ladies Love CJ" cheat, whether this cheat worked, and whether it sounded a "Cheat Activated" blip. Summary: I don't know whether this cheat does anything, but I have never gotten a cheat activated blip entering this button cheat. Subsequent posts cleared up some questions I had but did not shed light on the "Ladies Love" cheat specifically. Edited January 30, 2005 by bignothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloakster Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 He I turned off the peds riot people said you can't. ya its one of the codes that are cant be deactivated. it was the same for vice city. That gang cheat is so fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I tried it. Trains don't fly. I wonder if there is a motorcycles fly cheat. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.J. Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 (edited) Well theres a glitch,(This is pertaining to the last page.)where when you knock off two people that are on a bike, then you and the pasenger both try to get on the bike. If the other person gets there right after you then thay will get on just like thay do to there pedestrian driver. Its pretty easy to do if u find 2 people on a bike. Its fun but gets boring the 2nd time! Edited January 13, 2005 by C.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 well theres a glitch (this is pertaining to the last page)where when u knock off two people and youll both try to get on if the other person gets there right after you then thay will get on just like thay do to there driver its pretty easy to do if u find 2 people on a bike its fun but gets boring the 2nd time Did anyone else find this nearly impossible to read? It took me 4 attempts to finally figure out what he's talking about. Punctuation, man. Punctuation. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rei Gan Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 well theres a glitch (this is pertaining to the last page)where when u knock off two people and youll both try to get on if the other person gets there right after you then thay will get on just like thay do to there driver its pretty easy to do if u find 2 people on a bike its fun but gets boring the 2nd time Did anyone else find this nearly impossible to read? It took me 4 attempts to finally figure out what he's talking about. Punctuation, man. Punctuation. Lmao... same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tminus Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 IDLE BANTER GUYS! Anyways... Gang Members EverywhereLEFT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, LEFT, X, DOWN, UP, SQUARE, RIGHT This does seem to vary from the "Gangs Rule Streets" cheat. Gangs spawn on the usual paths but only the gangs with controlable territory (OGF, Ballas, Vagos) but unlike the Gang Rulz cheat it does still have pedestrians and the normal frequency of police. This cheat will be very useful when doing the territory glitch and possibly better than the other because it doesn't spawn all the gangs in SA which makes it way harder to stay focused on gang wars. Wanted Man Hey Edisoncarter when did you start to do the cheats for san andreas? Duh, theres a date on his first post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalD Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 The cheat seems to just replace all peds (except special peds: store owners, poliecmen, firemen, paramedics) with gang members. I put the following explanation on the site: Similar to the 'Gangs Rule the Streets' cheat, except all pedestrians are replaced by gang members. Policemen, firemen, paramedics and shop owners stay the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut12 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I still dont understand why I have pedestrians on mine aswell as the gangs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildhalcyon Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I still dont understand why I have pedestrians on mine aswell as the gangs? What types of pedestrians do you still have? In addition to the list that DigitalD supplied, I found taxi drivers and bikers. I haven't checked to see whether or not the sea-faring population has changed much, but my guess would that its still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut12 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I still dont understand why I have pedestrians on mine aswell as the gangs? What types of pedestrians do you still have? In addition to the list that DigitalD supplied, I found taxi drivers and bikers. I haven't checked to see whether or not the sea-faring population has changed much, but my guess would that its still the same. Just some woman plainly dressed. The men in leather jackets are still about, and some other pretty basic pedestrians. I didnt travel too far with the cheat activated, but I moved around enough to notice that they were still about in LV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtatheist Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Has anyone else noticed that if you enter either the "gangs only" or "gangs everywhere" cheats, there are gangs that never show up otherwise? During normal gameplay, some gangs spawn that don't have anything to do with the storyline, but with these cheats, some gangs spawn that I've never even seen before. For example, I saw a group of guys in Las Venturas with light tan pants, dark vests, and ponytails. That's just one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starship poet Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 hi, i just joined, but i've been looking through these forums for a few weeks now. i've found them more reliable than others, so i decided to start posting here from now on. but what i was wondering is if edisoncarter has contacted rockstar about him finding these cheats, or does rockstar know about them being revealed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 im sure rockstar knows, i doubt he has contacted them. It would be nice if they just gave up all the cheats cause we are going get them all anyways, i hope. He probably won't be able to go through all combinations in a reasonable ammount of time. Actually, in case edisoncarter still reads this thread, how many combinations did the system go through by now? Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I'll make it easier for you. Here are the hexidecimal codes for the buttons: 55 44 4c 52 54 53 43 58 31 32 33 34 I'm not sure how this will help you, though. I've written some search programs to go through the main executible of the game and the script files to search for cheat codes, and I didn't find anything helpfull. It seems to me that they where based on a switch that got optimized by a compiler. Good luck reverse engeneering that. Prior to filing a bug against any of my code, please consider this response to common concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehhunter Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 If someone good with game files, like Opius, could tell me what Rockstar probably used to compile the game, there is a damn good chance of reversing whatever file its in. You'd be surprise what can be reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edisoncarter Posted January 14, 2005 Author Share Posted January 14, 2005 Found some more cheats: Funhouse Theme TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, L1, SQUARE, SQUARE, CIRCLE, SQUARE, DOWN, CIRCLE Hotknifes, baggage handlers, tugs, hotdogs, mr whoopees, pizzaboys, bf injections, caddys, quads, most with hydraulics. Peds are food service workers and clowns. Get goofy outfit. Sandstorm? UP, DOWN, L1, L1, L2, L2, L1, L2, R1, R2 Not the same as the Foggy Weather cheat. It's much brighter, and windy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarSurfingKing Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) Found some more cheats: Funhouse Theme TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, L1, SQUARE, SQUARE, CIRCLE, SQUARE, DOWN, CIRCLE Hotknifes, baggage handlers, tugs, hotdogs, mr whoopees, pizzaboys, bf injections, caddys, quads, most with hydraulics. Peds are food service workers and clowns. Get goofy outfit. Sandstorm? UP, DOWN, L1, L1, L2, L2, L1, L2, R1, R2 Not the same as the Foggy Weather cheat. It's much brighter, and windy. note, funhouse theme makes all cars have hydraulics as well, just tested it oh my bad, i should have read ALL of edisons post eh? well great find Edited January 14, 2005 by CarSurfingKing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irulesk8 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Found some more cheats: Funhouse Theme TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, L1, SQUARE, SQUARE, CIRCLE, SQUARE, DOWN, CIRCLE Hotknifes, baggage handlers, tugs, hotdogs, mr whoopees, pizzaboys, bf injections, caddys, quads, most with hydraulics. Peds are food service workers and clowns. Get goofy outfit. Sandstorm? UP, DOWN, L1, L1, L2, L2, L1, L2, R1, R2 Not the same as the Foggy Weather cheat. It's much brighter, and windy. Good Work Edison as my sig used to say u should be a mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edisoncarter Posted January 14, 2005 Author Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) time to redo my cop car collection with hydrolics btw, the hydrolics stay after you disable the cheat. just tested it Hotring, here i come That's a good point! Cop cars have hydraulics too. Also, if any regular traffic comes along, it looks like it has hydraulics if it can take it. I found a Sabre and it had it. Do spawned vehicles have hydraulics? (Edit: I mean vehicles that spawn a certain type of car in a certain place, not cheat code spawn) Which police vehicles have them? This cheat is a way to get hydraulics on vehicles that I think you could never normally buy them on. Edit: Does that clown normally appear in the game anywhere? He looks like Ronald McDonald. Edited January 14, 2005 by edisoncarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flitcroft101 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 time to redo my cop car collection with hydrolics btw, the hydrolics stay after you disable the cheat. just tested it Hotring, here i come That's a good point! Cop cars have hydraulics too. Also, if any regular traffic comes along, it looks like it has hydraulics if it can take it. I found a Sabre and it had it. Do spawned vehicles have hydraulics? Which police vehicles have them? This cheat is a way to get hydraulics on vehicles that I think you could never normally buy them on. so does the quad have hydraulics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trunks1970 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Another great find edisoncarter. Thanks for the new button codes. Also I have a question. I have been playing around with some button codes that have been out for some time like the MAX MUSCLE code and I noticed when I pushed the right directional button instead of the left like it says at the end of the button code it took my MAX MUSCLE down to what it would be without using the button cheat. Is this a joker button code because I pushed right instead of left on the directional pad? I've been trying it with some other button codes by switching the last button to press with it's opposite but haven't seen anything happen other than with MAX MUSCLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsane Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) How about the Enforcer and FBI (what is it this time, Rancher?) they work there any way to get a non-spawned airplane? that would be funny to see drolics on edit: they work on the Barracks too Edited January 14, 2005 by nsane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nopenopenope Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 time to redo my cop car collection with hydrolics btw, the hydrolics stay after you disable the cheat. just tested it Hotring, here i come That's a good point! Cop cars have hydraulics too. Also, if any regular traffic comes along, it looks like it has hydraulics if it can take it. I found a Sabre and it had it. Do spawned vehicles have hydraulics? (Edit: I mean vehicles that spawn a certain type of car in a certain place, not cheat code spawn) Which police vehicles have them? This cheat is a way to get hydraulics on vehicles that I think you could never normally buy them on. Edit: Does that clown normally appear in the game anywhere? He looks like Ronald McDonald. That clown always drives the MR. Whopee truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loman Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 With the "funhouse" cheat, I've noticed a couple rare cars driving around. the Mower and the Bandito I was wondering if anyone else saw them or any others? I didn't get to steal any of them though, so i dunno if they had hydrolics or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsane Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) all cars on the road have hydrolics. unless they have some special feature..tank, ambulance, and firetruck i wanna get a tow truck chain going with all the trucks hopped up on drolics edit: anyone know if there's a flight path over the airfield? cause i'm ganna shoot it down and push it into the garage [elmer fudd] ssshhh, i'm hunting me some hydrolic-airplanes [/elmer fudd] Edited January 14, 2005 by nsane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminator5 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I also noticed that when I entered the sandstorm code with the funhouse code it replaced all the clowns, burger shot girls, etc with a certain ped that says "Come on man, move!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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