Hidden Interiors via the Ganton Gym!

[OD fa real]

It's a Ground Level interior.... or warehouse.

It's not a real interior. It's in interior group 0, meaning it's not hidden, it's not locked, the screen doesn't fade before you get there, it doesn't load separately with a text, it's simply always available and viewable.

 

A real groundlevel interior are like the garages with interiors in SF. They are in interior group 1 and at exactly the same coordinates and location in the gameworld as the "shell" of it when you're outside and in interior group 0, meaning, you're not in an interior.

 

Groundlevel interiors are interiors with copies of the surrounding objects seen when you're outside. It's real interiors with windows so you can see the world outside the interior. What you're really seeing is a copy of the world outside. An example of this is the entire intro mission. The airport you see and the cutscene with the police and CJ takes place in an interior that is a copy of the game world. Can't remeber what interior group exactly, but when you're "in it", there are no cars driving around and it basically looks like Liberty since just parts of the city is in there.

think you can get us a list of what interiors load under which groups? or at least point me in the direction of what file it is in the GTA:SA disc?

[ChaosAlert]

Hmm, interesting point.

Anyway, ground area or not, there's still something wrong when flying at the height of that platform.

[OD fa real]

@carpet... you know what i noticed... in all the ground interiors you listed... area 69 isn't one of them. lol. we've all been just overlooking this interior because we all knew about it for so long, we didn't even number it. Too bad it can't be number 69 now. lol

[Barton Waterduck]

 

think you can get us a list of what interiors load under which groups? or at least point me in the direction of what file it is in the GTA:SA disc?

I already did. Look in the .ipl files. Look for a line with just ENEX in it. Below it are the enex sections. Those sets up the interior entry markers and teleporting system from the "real world" to the interiors. The last 2 params before the name in quotes are the interior groups (usually). One is the group you teleport from, the other the group you teleport to. How this info can be useful to you without a coords mod or similar I have no idea. All I know is from reading the codes in the mission script.

 

EDIT: Here's some mission script code generated from the ipl files that shows the full original description of each enex section. The texts are from the GXT file. Is this useful ?

 

07FB: 'JUMP1'  1  ; Caligula's Roof07FB: 'JUMP2'  1  ; Caligula's Roof07FB: 'MAFCAS'  1  ; Caligula's Casino07FB: 'SVVGHO2'  1  ; Hotel Suite07FB: 'TRICAS'  1  ; The Four Dragons07FB: 'SVVGHO1'  1  ; Hotel Suite07FB: 'PAPER'  1  ; Planning Department07FB: 'STRIP2'  1  ; Strip Club07FB: 'SVLAMD'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'BAR1'  1  ; Club07FB: 'FDCHICK'  1  ; Cluckin' Bell07FB: 'FDPIZA'  1  ; Pizza Stack07FB: 'CLOTHGP'  1  ; Zip07FB: 'AMMUN2'  1  ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'X7_11S'  1  ; 24-707FB: 'FDBURG'  1  ; Burger Shot07FB: 'FDREST1'  1  ; World of Coq07FB: 'X7_11B'  1  ; 24-707FB: 'CSSPRT'  1  ; Pro-Laps07FB: 'CSDESGN'  1  ; Victim07FB: 'LACS1'  1  ; Sub Urban07FB: 'POLICE3'  1  ; LVPD HQ07FB: 'BAR2'  1  ; Bar07FB: 'LASTRIP'  1  ; Strip Club07FB: 'SVSFSM'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'POLICE4'  1  ; LVPD HQ07FB: 'DINER2'  1  ; Diner07FB: 'CSCHP'  1  ; Binco07FB: 'DINER1'  1  ; Diner07FB: 'TATTO3'  1  ; Tattoo Parlor07FB: 'SEXSHOP'  1  ; Sex Shop07FB: 'BARBER2'  1  ; Barber07FB: 'GYM3'  1  ; Below the Belt Gym07FB: 'ABATOIR'  1  ; Sindacco Abattoir07FB: 'SVVGMD'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'CASINO2'  1  ; Casino Floor07FB: 'SVSFBG'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'P69_ENT'  1 07FB: 'SFHSS1'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHS2A'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHS1B'  1  ; House07FB: 'REST2'  1  ; Secret Valley07FB: 'SFHSS2'  1  ; House07FB: 'SFHSB1'  1  ; House07FB: 'SFHSM2'  1  ; House07FB: 'GYM2'  1  ; Cobra Marital Arts07FB: 'AMMUN1'  1  ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'SVSFMD'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'SVHOT1'  1  ; Hotel Suite07FB: 'TATTOO'  1  ; Tattoo Parlor07FB: 'SFHSM1'  1  ; House07FB: 'SFHSB3'  1  ; House07FB: 'AIRPORT'  1 07FB: 'AIRPOR2'  1 07FB: 'MOTEL1'  1  ; Jefferson Motel07FB: 'SVLASM'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'BARBERS'  1  ; Barber07FB: 'LACRAK'  1  ; Crack Den07FB: 'CARLS'  1  ; The Johnson House07FB: 'BURHOUS'  1  ; Colonel Fuhrberger's07FB: 'GANG'  1  ; Vagos Gang House07FB: 'GYM1'  1  ; Ganton Gym07FB: 'CARTER'  1  ; Smoke's Crack Palace07FB: 'POLICE1'  1  ; LSPD HQ07FB: 'ATRIUME'  1  ; Atrium07FB: 'ATRIUMX'  1  ; Attrium07FB: 'GENOTB'  1  ; Inside Track Betting07FB: 'SKYLAN2'  1 07FB: 'BARBER3'  1  ; Barber07FB: 'AMMUN3'  1  ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'CSEXL'  1  ; Didier Sachs07FB: 'X711S2'  1  ; 24-707FB: 'MADDOGS'  1  ; Madd Dogg's Crib07FB: 'MDDOGS'  1  ; Madd Dogg's Crib07FB: 'X7_11C'  1  ; 24-707FB: 'X7_11D'  1  ; 24-707FB: 'X711S3'  1  ; 24-707FB: 'TATTO2'  1 07FB: 'VGHSB1'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHSS6'  1  ; House07FB: 'VGHSB3'  1  ; House07FB: 'VGSHS2'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHSB4'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHSB1'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHSB2'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHSB3'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHS2B'  1  ; House07FB: 'VGSHM2'  1  ; House07FB: 'VGSHM3'  1  ; House07FB: 'VGHSS1'  1  ; House07FB: 'LAHS1A'  1  ; House07FB: 'TSDINER'  1  ; Truck Stop07FB: 'JETINT'  1 07FB: 'SWEETS'  1  ; Sweet's House07FB: 'MOROOM'  1 07FB: 'CHANGER'  1  ; Wardrobe07FB: 'DRIVES'  1  ; Driving School07FB: 'RCPLAY'  1  ; Zero's RC Shop07FB: 'DRIVES2'  1  ; Driving School07FB: 'PDOMES'  1  ; The Pleasure Domes07FB: 'PDOMES2'  1  ; The Pleasure Domes07FB: 'WUZIBET'  1  ; Wu Zi Mu's07FB: 'MAFCAS2'  1  ; Penthouse Suites07FB: 'BIKESCH'  1  ; Bike School07FB: 'DIRBIKE'  1  ; Dirt Stadium07FB: '8TRACK'  1  ; 8-Track Stadium07FB: 'BROTHL1'  1 07FB: 'CARMOD2'  1  ; Loco Low Co.07FB: 'CARMOD3'  1  ; Wheel Arch Angels07FB: 'GENWRHS'  1  ; Warehouse07FB: 'SMASHTV'  1 07FB: 'BDUPS'  1  ; B Dup's apartment07FB: 'BDUPS1'  1  ; B Dup's Crack Palace07FB: 'STUDIO'  1 07FB: 'BROTHL2'  1  ; Brothel07FB: 'OGLOCS'  1  ; OG Loc's07FB: 'CARMOD1'  1  ; TransFender07FB: 'POLICE2'  1  ; SFPD HQ07FB: 'GF1'  1 07FB: 'GF2'  1 07FB: 'GF3'  1 07FB: 'GF4'  1 07FB: 'GF5'  1 07FB: 'GF6'  1 07FB: 'FDDONUT'  1  ; Rusty Brown's07FB: 'AMMUN4'  1  ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'AMMUN5'  1  ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'SVLABIG'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'SVc*nt'  1  ; Safe House07FB: 'SVGNMT2'  1  ; Motel room07FB: 'SVGNMT1'  1  ; Motel room07FB: 'OFTEST'  1 07FB: 'S1TEST'  1 07FB: 'BROTHEL'  1  ; Whore House07FB: 'RYDERS'  1  ; Ryder's Place07FB: 'VGHSM2'  1  ; House07FB: 'VGHSM3'  1  ; House07FB: 'SFHSB2'  1  ; House07FB: 'DAMOUT'  1 07FB: 'UFOBAR'  1  ; Lil' Probe Inn07FB: 'DESHOUS'  1  ; Abandoned AC tower07FB: 'STUDRAN'  1 07FB: 'DAMIN'  1  ; Generator Hall

 

Edited January 8, 2005 by Barton Waterduck

[ChaosAlert]

 

we've all been just overlooking this interior because we all knew about it for so long, we didn't even number it. Too bad it can't be number 69 now. lol

I added that interior to a list collected up from edison's info a few pages back.

 

 

An example of this is the entire intro mission. The airport you see and the cutscene with the police and CJ takes place in an interior that is a copy of the game world. Can't remeber what interior group exactly, but when you're "in it", there are no cars driving around and it basically looks like Liberty since just parts of the city is in there.

 

Never saw the edit.

 

Interesting fact though, that game world you mentioned sounds just like a section of the "Burning Desire" mission where the house is.

[WTP129]

 

@ WTP - Where have you looked so far? I presume you are making full use of all the recent maps.

 

 

For the Dam I have looked in

 

 

1. Liberty City Heaven

 

2. Ho heaven

 

 

3. B dups crack heaven

 

 

4. Wardrobe Heaven

[TheDuffMan]

About the girlfriend theory... that one with the rims inside is definitely michelle's, which would make the following?

 

Denise - Tiny Bedroom

Helena - Barn

Barbara - Rural Police Department

Michelle - House With Rims

Millie - Unknown

Katie - Unknown

 

And the Large Bedroom belongs to either Millie or Katie, I think.

 

 

07FB: 'GF1'  1

07FB: 'GF2'  1

07FB: 'GF3'  1

07FB: 'GF4'  1

07FB: 'GF5'  1

07FB: 'GF6'  1

 

I think that it's called GF definitely proves the Girlfriend Theory

[WTP129]

I don't know if this will help but here is coordinates for stadiums and other things like the stuff in them.

 

13590, kickbus04, kickstart, 299, 0

13591, kickcar28, kickstart, 299, 0

13592, loopbig, kickstart, 299, 0

13593, kickramp03, kickstart, 299, 0

13594, fireyfire, kickstart, 299, 0

13595, stand02, stadstunt, 299, 6

13596, destruct04, stadstunt, 299, 6

13597, destruct05, stadstunt, 299, 6

13598, stand03, destructo, 299, 4

13599, standblack04, standext, 299, 0

13600, destruct06, destructo, 299, 0

13601, destruct07, destructo, 299, 0

13602, thebolla06, ovalsurround, 299, 4

13603, stad_tag, stad_tag, 100, 0

13604, kickramp05, stad_tag, 100, 0

13605, destruct1, sumo, 299, 0

13606, standblack02, sumo, 299, 0

13607, ringwalls, sumostad, 299, 0

13608, sumoring, sumoback, 299, 0

13609, supports, sumostad, 299, 0

13610, stand04, sumostands, 299, 4

13611, thebowl13, stadstunt, 299, 0

13612, stuntman03, stadstunt, 299, 0

13613, thebowl11, stadstunt, 299, 0

13614, thebowl12, stadstunt, 299, 0

13615, thebowl10, stadstunt, 299, 0

13616, thebolla04, stadstunt, 299, 0

13617, thebowl14, stadstunt, 299, 0

13618, thebowl16, stadstunt, 299, 0

13619, thebowl17, stadstunt, 299, 0

13620, thebowl15, stadstunt, 200, 0

13621, thebolla03, stadstunt, 299, 0

13622, sumofence, sumoback, 299, 4

13623, midringfence, sumoback, 299, 4

13624, inner, innertrak, 200, 0

13625, stands, crowds, 299, 4

13626, 8road2, road, 200, 0

13627, stadoval, inneroval, 299, 0

13628, 8stad, 8stad, 200, 2

13629, 8screen01, innertrack, 200, 0

13630, 8screen, innertrak, 200, 0

13631, dirtstad, dirtstad, 299, 2

13632, dirtcrowds, stands, 299, 6

13633, dirtouter01, dirtouter, 299, 6

13634, dirtstad02, kickarse, 299, 6

13635, therocks10, kickstart, 299, 0

13636, logramps, kickstart, 299, 0

13637, tuberamp, kickstart, 299, 0

13638, stunt1, kickstart, 299, 0

13639, ramparse, kickstart, 299, 0

13640, arse, kickstart, 299, 0

13641, kickramp04, kickstart, 299, 0

13642, rings, kickstart, 299, 0

13643, logramps02, kickstart, 299, 0

13644, steps, kickstart, 299, 0

13645, kickramp06, kickstart, 299, 0

13646, ramplandpad, kickstart, 299, 0

13647, wall1, kickstart, 299, 0

13648, wall2, kickstart, 299, 0

13649, ramplandpad01, kickstart, 299, 0

13650, kickcrowd01, kickarse, 299, 6

13651, otunnel, stadstunt, 299, 0

13652, oroadbit, stadstunt, 299, 0

13653, innerfence, stadstunt, 299, 4

13654, darkpoly, drkpoly, 200, 4

13655, bridge, bridge, 200, 0

13656, f*ckknows, ovalcube, 299, 4

13657, bit, kickstart, 299, 0

13658, bit01, kickarse, 299, 4

13659, 8bar5, 8bars, 299, 4

13660, 8track1, road, 299, 0

13661, cockbars, 8bars, 299, 4

13662, dirtcock, dirtrack, 299, 0

13663, dirtfences, dirtrack, 299, 4

13664, dirtroad, dirtrack, 299, 0

13665, dirtfences2, dirtrack, 299, 4

13666, loopwee, kickstart, 299, 0

13667, monkeyman, dirtstad, 299, 2

 

And here is some more stuff

 

-72.15, 780.976, 1122.32, 0, 3.2, 7, 8, -72.15, 786.476, 1122.32, 0, 7, 3, "OFTEST", 0, 2, 0, 24

-131.446, 787.523, 1122.33, 0, 3.2, 7, 8, -131.446, 793.023, 1122.33, 0, 3, 3, "S1TEST", 0, 0, 0, 24

318.565, 1115.21, 1082.98, 3.14159, 2, 2, 8, 318.565, 1118.21, 1082.98, 0, 5, 1, "LACRAK", 12, 2, 0, 24

744.527, 1431.31, 1101.74, 0, 3.42078, 3.17188, 8, 744.543, 1437.67, 1101.74, -0.834778, 6, 0, "BROTHEL", 1, 2, 0, 24

2468.29, -1698.1, 1012.51, -1.5708, 3.24721, 1.76891, 8, 2464.11, -1698.66, 1012.51, 91.8502, 2, 0, "RYDERS", 12, 0, 0, 24

22.7783, 1403.46, 1083.45, 0, 2, 1, 8, 22.7783, 1404.96, 1083.45, 0, 5, 4096, "VGHSM2", 13, 0, 0, 24

24.1327, 1340.15, 1083.45, 0, 2.4, 1, 8, 27.1327, 1341.15, 1083.45, -43, 10, 0, "VGHSM3", 13, 0, 0, 24

87.9854, 1366.21, 1082.96, 0, 3, 1, 8, 88.0854, 1368.61, 1082.96, 0, 6, 0, "SFHSB2", 13, 0, 0, 24

82.9451, 1322.44, 1082.89, 0, 2, 1, 8, 83.3451, 1324.44, 1082.89, -40, 9, 0, "SFHSB3", 13, 0, 0, 24

-68.6941, 1351.97, 1079.28, 0, 2, 2, 8, -68.2941, 1353.47, 1079.28, 0, 6, 0, "SFHSS2", 13, 0, 0, 24

-42.582, 1405.61, 1083.45, 0, 2, 1, 8, -42.582, 1408.11, 1083.45, 0, 8, 0, "SFHSS1", 13, 0, 0, 24

140.178, 1366.58, 1082.97, 0, 4, 2, 8, 140.278, 1368.98, 1082.97, 0, 5, 0, "SFHSB1", 13, 0, 0, 24

-283.549, 1470.98, 1083.45, 1.5708, 2.4, 1, 8, -285.549, 1470.98, 1083.45, 90, 15, 0, "SFHSM1", 13, 0, 0, 24

-260.602, 1456.62, 1083.45, 1.5708, 2.4, 1, 8, -262.602, 1456.62, 1083.45, 90, 4, 0, "SFHSM2", 13, 0, 0, 24

Edited January 8, 2005 by WTP129

[-infinity-]

Groundlevel interiors are interiors with copies of the surrounding objects seen when you're outside.<snip>An example of this is the entire intro mission. The airport you see and the cutscene with the police and CJ takes place in an interior that is a copy of the game world. Can't remeber what interior group exactly, but when you're "in it", there are no cars driving around and it basically looks like Liberty since just parts of the city is in there.

wouldnt this waste disk memory? surely if would be more efficient to just use the real world?

 

plus, how come the cinematic cuts away to the game screen so quickly when CJ is pushed out of the car then?

[CarpetDweller]

Right I just got back and had a quick read through.

 

As far as Barton's code goes -

I don't pretend to understand most of what was said. So I'm going to ask a question for people like me.

 

In the lines:

07FB: 'GF1'  1

07FB: 'GF2'  1

07FB: 'GF3'  1

07FB: 'GF4'  1

07FB: 'GF5'  1

07FB: 'GF6'  1

 

Does the FB indicate which 'interior group' these belong to? So a different group might have GD or CY?

If this is the case then all girlfriend rooms are in the same group. If these are what we refer to as the girlfriend interiors then 'group obviously doesn't mean the same as 'heaven' as I had hoped. If we knew ahead of time which interiors made up each heaven that would be a big help.

 

@ Duffman - I would imagine Millie's room is the one we see in the game.

 

@ Barton - For our listing purposes ALL interiors are counted. It doesn't matter which interior group they come under or how a programmer would look at them. If they can be entered - they go on the list.

This may go against the 'HIDDEN' aspect of this topic. But then again one of the first to be listed was the betting shop which can be entered at any time just by going to its yellow entry marker. If we count those it is only a small step to counting those that exist in the 'real' world but are locked. From there I just thought we might as well make the definitive list of all interior you can enter. Once they are divided into heavens the differences will be clear.

 

Area 69 is not on the list because...

 

Well I guess it should be now. Now that we are counting universe K (real world + blue hell) then it should be listed. At the time when I was considering it (actually around no.69) I was dead against non-heaven inclusions. How times change.

 

@ ChaosAlert - I must have missed that list with area 69 on it. Sorry.

 

@ WTP129 - You sent me a PM asking about stadiums and included the list of stadium coordinates you posted earlier. To answer your question here:

 

I know nothing about getting info from files on the game disc. I don't really understand what I'm looking at when I see those lists. You can gather that from the fact that it took me a couple of days to work out that 'LA' at the beginning of a filename = Los Angeles.

I only have 3 stadiums listed and I posted a request for any help with names/ heavens /new ones yesterday. If anyone can help please do. As far as any questions regarding code I suggest you send them to one of the members that have posted some themselves.

 

This may be the wrong forum, but as we're on the subject:

For the benefit of the computer illiterate like myself could someone tell me what the following piece of code refers to?

 

13667, monkeyman, dirtstad, 299, 2 

 

I can see it's broken down into simple sections and it's referring to the dirt stadium. Which parts mean what? What information would a knowledgable person gather from a simple line like that? I'm just interested and I hope some others are to. Just the one reply though.

 

Please phrase your answer as if you are talking to a baby chimp with learning difficulties.

 

I'll add all the recent additions tonight - hopefully.

Edited January 9, 2005 by carpetdweller

[OD fa real]

think you can get us a list of what interiors load under which groups? or at least point me in the direction of what file it is in the GTA:SA disc?

I already did. Look in the .ipl files. Look for a line with just ENEX in it. Below it are the enex sections. Those sets up the interior entry markers and teleporting system from the "real world" to the interiors. The last 2 params before the name in quotes are the interior groups (usually). One is the group you teleport from, the other the group you teleport to. How this info can be useful to you without a coords mod or similar I have no idea. All I know is from reading the codes in the mission script.

 

EDIT: Here's some mission script code generated from the ipl files that shows the full original description of each enex section. The texts are from the GXT file. Is this useful ?

 

07FB: 'JUMP1'  1 ; Caligula's Roof07FB: 'JUMP2'  1 ; Caligula's Roof07FB: 'MAFCAS'  1 ; Caligula's Casino07FB: 'SVVGHO2'  1 ; Hotel Suite07FB: 'TRICAS'  1 ; The Four Dragons07FB: 'SVVGHO1'  1 ; Hotel Suite07FB: 'PAPER'  1 ; Planning Department07FB: 'STRIP2'  1 ; Strip Club07FB: 'SVLAMD'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'BAR1'  1 ; Club07FB: 'FDCHICK'  1 ; Cluckin' Bell07FB: 'FDPIZA'  1 ; Pizza Stack07FB: 'CLOTHGP'  1 ; Zip07FB: 'AMMUN2'  1 ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'X7_11S'  1 ; 24-707FB: 'FDBURG'  1 ; Burger Shot07FB: 'FDREST1'  1 ; World of Coq07FB: 'X7_11B'  1 ; 24-707FB: 'CSSPRT'  1 ; Pro-Laps07FB: 'CSDESGN'  1 ; Victim07FB: 'LACS1'  1 ; Sub Urban07FB: 'POLICE3'  1 ; LVPD HQ07FB: 'BAR2'  1 ; Bar07FB: 'LASTRIP'  1 ; Strip Club07FB: 'SVSFSM'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'POLICE4'  1 ; LVPD HQ07FB: 'DINER2'  1 ; Diner07FB: 'CSCHP'  1 ; Binco07FB: 'DINER1'  1 ; Diner07FB: 'TATTO3'  1 ; Tattoo Parlor07FB: 'SEXSHOP'  1 ; Sex Shop07FB: 'BARBER2'  1 ; Barber07FB: 'GYM3'  1 ; Below the Belt Gym07FB: 'ABATOIR'  1 ; Sindacco Abattoir07FB: 'SVVGMD'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'CASINO2'  1 ; Casino Floor07FB: 'SVSFBG'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'P69_ENT'  1 07FB: 'SFHSS1'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHS2A'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHS1B'  1 ; House07FB: 'REST2'  1 ; Secret Valley07FB: 'SFHSS2'  1 ; House07FB: 'SFHSB1'  1 ; House07FB: 'SFHSM2'  1 ; House07FB: 'GYM2'  1 ; Cobra Marital Arts07FB: 'AMMUN1'  1 ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'SVSFMD'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'SVHOT1'  1 ; Hotel Suite07FB: 'TATTOO'  1 ; Tattoo Parlor07FB: 'SFHSM1'  1 ; House07FB: 'SFHSB3'  1 ; House07FB: 'AIRPORT'  1 07FB: 'AIRPOR2'  1 07FB: 'MOTEL1'  1 ; Jefferson Motel07FB: 'SVLASM'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'BARBERS'  1 ; Barber07FB: 'LACRAK'  1 ; Crack Den07FB: 'CARLS'  1 ; The Johnson House07FB: 'BURHOUS'  1 ; Colonel Fuhrberger's07FB: 'GANG'  1 ; Vagos Gang House07FB: 'GYM1'  1 ; Ganton Gym07FB: 'CARTER'  1 ; Smoke's Crack Palace07FB: 'POLICE1'  1 ; LSPD HQ07FB: 'ATRIUME'  1 ; Atrium07FB: 'ATRIUMX'  1 ; Attrium07FB: 'GENOTB'  1 ; Inside Track Betting07FB: 'SKYLAN2'  1 07FB: 'BARBER3'  1 ; Barber07FB: 'AMMUN3'  1 ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'CSEXL'  1 ; Didier Sachs07FB: 'X711S2'  1 ; 24-707FB: 'MADDOGS'  1 ; Madd Dogg's Crib07FB: 'MDDOGS'  1 ; Madd Dogg's Crib07FB: 'X7_11C'  1 ; 24-707FB: 'X7_11D'  1 ; 24-707FB: 'X711S3'  1 ; 24-707FB: 'TATTO2'  1 07FB: 'VGHSB1'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHSS6'  1 ; House07FB: 'VGHSB3'  1 ; House07FB: 'VGSHS2'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHSB4'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHSB1'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHSB2'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHSB3'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHS2B'  1 ; House07FB: 'VGSHM2'  1 ; House07FB: 'VGSHM3'  1 ; House07FB: 'VGHSS1'  1 ; House07FB: 'LAHS1A'  1 ; House07FB: 'TSDINER'  1 ; Truck Stop07FB: 'JETINT'  1 07FB: 'SWEETS'  1 ; Sweet's House07FB: 'MOROOM'  1 07FB: 'CHANGER'  1 ; Wardrobe07FB: 'DRIVES'  1 ; Driving School07FB: 'RCPLAY'  1 ; Zero's RC Shop07FB: 'DRIVES2'  1 ; Driving School07FB: 'PDOMES'  1 ; The Pleasure Domes07FB: 'PDOMES2'  1 ; The Pleasure Domes07FB: 'WUZIBET'  1 ; Wu Zi Mu's07FB: 'MAFCAS2'  1 ; Penthouse Suites07FB: 'BIKESCH'  1 ; Bike School07FB: 'DIRBIKE'  1 ; Dirt Stadium07FB: '8TRACK'  1 ; 8-Track Stadium07FB: 'BROTHL1'  1 07FB: 'CARMOD2'  1 ; Loco Low Co.07FB: 'CARMOD3'  1 ; Wheel Arch Angels07FB: 'GENWRHS'  1 ; Warehouse07FB: 'SMASHTV'  1 07FB: 'BDUPS'  1 ; B Dup's apartment07FB: 'BDUPS1'  1 ; B Dup's Crack Palace07FB: 'STUDIO'  1 07FB: 'BROTHL2'  1 ; Brothel07FB: 'OGLOCS'  1 ; OG Loc's07FB: 'CARMOD1'  1 ; TransFender07FB: 'POLICE2'  1 ; SFPD HQ07FB: 'GF1'  1 07FB: 'GF2'  1 07FB: 'GF3'  1 07FB: 'GF4'  1 07FB: 'GF5'  1 07FB: 'GF6'  1 07FB: 'FDDONUT'  1 ; Rusty Brown's07FB: 'AMMUN4'  1 ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'AMMUN5'  1 ; Ammu-Nation07FB: 'SVLABIG'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'SVc*nt'  1 ; Safe House07FB: 'SVGNMT2'  1 ; Motel room07FB: 'SVGNMT1'  1 ; Motel room07FB: 'OFTEST'  1 07FB: 'S1TEST'  1 07FB: 'BROTHEL'  1 ; Whore House07FB: 'RYDERS'  1 ; Ryder's Place07FB: 'VGHSM2'  1 ; House07FB: 'VGHSM3'  1 ; House07FB: 'SFHSB2'  1 ; House07FB: 'DAMOUT'  1 07FB: 'UFOBAR'  1 ; Lil' Probe Inn07FB: 'DESHOUS'  1 ; Abandoned AC tower07FB: 'STUDRAN'  1 07FB: 'DAMIN'  1 ; Generator Hall

 

Actually, I was looking along the lines of something like this...

 

According to my thoughts off the enex tags...

 

Ho Heaven = 3...

In it are...

 

3,0,"SEXSHOP",4,3,0,24

3,8,"TATTO3",1,2,0,24

3,1,"LAHSB4",13,0,23,6

3,11,"BROTHL1",0,2,0,24

3,43,"CARMOD3",12,2,0,24

3,0,"BDUPS",4,2,0,24

3,1,"STRIP2",8,7,0,24

3,2,"STUDIO",12,0,0,24

3,3,"BROTHL2",0,2,0,24

3,3,"OGLOCS",12,2,0,24

3,0,"POLICE4",4,20,0,24

3,0,"GF3",1,2,0,24

3,0,"POLICE3",4,20,0,24

3,8,"CSSPRT",4,4,0,24

3,8,"BARBER2",4,0,0,24

 

 

Gym Heaven = 5...

5,1,"GYM1",4,2,0,24

5,0,"LAHSB3",13,0,23,6

5,0,"GF5",1,2,0,24

5,9,"FDPIZA",4,8,0,24

5,3,"DINER2",4,2,0,24

5,9,"CSDESGN",4,4,0,24

 

 

Rusty Heaven = 17

17,0,"FDDONUT",4,4,0,24

17,1,"BAR1",5,9,0,24

17,1,"X7_11D",4,0,0,24

17,8,"TATTO2",4,2,0,24

 

 

There are more, but those were just taken from 5 ipl files, and not all of them.

 

[CarpetDweller]

What is "X7_11D"?

 

EDiT: Oh, I get it 7Eleven = 24/7

 

 

EDIT again: So does that mean we know which interiors make up each heaven?

Do we know how many heavens?

 

So if I look at DAM (for instance) and see which number is in front. And find another interior that I either already know the heaven or can enter from exterior world with the same number - then we can go and see it?

 

Did that make sense?

 

OD (or someone else) Can you send me a copy of that code where the info from OD's last post can be found?

Edited January 9, 2005 by carpetdweller

[OD fa real]

Heights for some interiors in the AUDIOZON file

 

 

My List of Interiors and their Heavens according to ENEX

[CarpetDweller]

thanks

 

So we're still looking at 18 different heavens then?

 

 

Edited January 9, 2005 by carpetdweller

[OD fa real]

yes. 18 different heavens... and according to my enex layout... I'm on point... but there are still things we missed...

 

LOL. I was blind... the code GF stands for girlfriend... LMAO

[CarpetDweller]

18 looks like Zip heaven.

 

 

18,1,"X7_11B",4,0,0,24 = 7Eleven = 24/7

18,0,"ATRIUMX",0,12,0,24 = Atrium (inside or Xterior)

18,0,"ATRIUME",0,12,0,24 = Atrium (inside or Environment)

18,98,"GENWRHS",0,2,0,24 = General warehouse

18,90,3,0,"GENOTB",1,2,0,24 = General Off Track Betting?

18,8,"CLOTHGP",4,7,0,24 = Clothes GAP = Zip

 

[OD fa real]

well i'll be... good eye carpet.

man, i'm gonna need your list updated if you think you can. I've been trying to list all the ones we've found, and its coming short.

[OD fa real]

here's my list of interiors as it pertains to the enex coding

 

 

According to my thoughts off the enex tags...Compiled so far thru:GEN_INT1GEN_INT2GEN_INT3GEN_INT4GEN_INT5INT_CONTINT_LAINT_SFINT_VEGSAFEHOUSSTADINTLEVELMAPGEN_INTB = **** (Not sure if its correct)1 = Liberty Heaven1,0,"LAHS1B",13,0,23,61,98,"SMASHTV",0,2,0,241,43,"CARMOD1",12,2,0,24	found 301,0,"GF1",1,2,0,24  found 341,8,"LACS1",4,4,0,241,8,"AMMUN1",4,2,0,24  found 321,2,"FDREST1",4,2,0,241,0,"TSDINER",4,2,0,24  found 751,0,"JETINT",0,0,0,24  found 741,0,"SWEETS",12,0,0,241,0,"WUZIBET",15,0,0,24  found 581,0,"MAFCAS",9,25,0,24  found 481,6,"MAFCAS2",10,2,0,241,2,"MAFCAS2",10,2,0,241,0,"JUMP2",1,2,0,241,0,"JUMP1",1,2,0,241,0,"ABATOIR",3,2,0,241,4,"CHANGER",2,2,0,241,0,"SVVGHO1",2,0,0,24  found 78Markers Missing from Heaven... may be already in list... need to be translated:8. Warehouse 231. Cafe33. Suburban37. San Fierro Garage Interior42. Liberty City2 = B Dup's Crack Heaven2,0,"BDUPS1",4,2,0,24  found 102,43,"CARMOD2",12,2,0,24	found 262,1,"LASTRIP",8,8,0,24  found 402,0,"GF2",1,2,0,24  found 492,9,"BARBERS",4,0,0,24  found 502,0,"LAHS1A",13,0,23,6  found 772,3,"VGHSB3",13,0,23,6  found 922,1,"VGHSB1",13,0,23,6  found 922,0,"CARTER",2,0,0,242,4,"CHANGER",2,2,0,242,0,"SVVGHO2",12,0,0,242,0,"RYDERS",12,0,0,24****	found 43Markers Missing from Heaven... may be already in list... need to be translated:51. Angel Pine Trailer56. Big Smoke's Crack Mansion3 = Ho Heaven3,0,"SEXSHOP",4,3,0,24  found 173,8,"TATTO3",1,2,0,24  found 183,1,"LAHSB4",13,0,23,6  found 763,11,"BROTHL1",0,2,0,24  found 23,43,"CARMOD3",12,2,0,24	found 113,0,"BDUPS",4,2,0,24  found 83,1,"STRIP2",8,7,0,24  found 63,2,"STUDIO",12,0,0,24  found 53,3,"BROTHL2",0,2,0,24  found 33,3,"OGLOCS",12,2,0,24  found 123,0,"GENOTB",1,2,0,24  found 43,0,"POLICE4",4,20,0,24  3,0,"GF3",1,2,0,24  found 353,0,"POLICE3",4,20,0,24  found 153,8,"CSSPRT",4,4,0,243,8,"BARBER2",4,0,0,24  found 133,0,"CARLS",12,0,0,243,4,"CHANGER",12,0,0,243,0,"DRIVES",4,2,0,243,0,"DRIVES2",4,2,0,243,0,"PDOMES2",11,2,0,243,0,"PDOMES",11,2,0,24  found 543,0,"PAPER",4,0,0,243,0,"BIKESCH",4,2,0,243,3,"S1TEST",0,0,0,24****Markers Missing from Heaven... may be already in list... need to be translated:14. Planning Dept16. Pro-laps83. Budget Inn Motel Room4 = ?????4,1,"X711S2",4,0,0,244,0,"LAHS2A",13,0,23,64,0,"GF4",1,2,0,244,9,"AMMUN2",4,2,0,244,3,"DINER1",4,2,0,244,1,"LAHSS6",13,0,23,64,0,"DIRBIKE",2,2,0,244,0,"SFHSM2",13,0,0,24****5 = Gym Heaven5,1,"GYM1",4,2,0,24  found 15,0,"LAHSB3",13,0,23,65,0,"GF5",1,2,0,24  found 365,9,"FDPIZA",4,8,0,24  found 225,3,"DINER2",4,2,0,24  found 215,9,"CSDESGN",4,4,0,245,0,"GANG",0,0,0,245,0,"MADDOGS",1,0,0,24  found 555,0,"MDDOGS",1,0,0,245,4,"CHANGER",2,2,0,245,0,"SVHOT1",2,0,0,245,1,"LACRAK",12,2,0,24****5,4096,"VGHSM2",13,0,0,24****5,0,"SFHSB1",13,0,0,24****Markers Missing from Heaven... may be already in list... need to be translated:25. Victim6 = ????6,0,"LAHSB1",13,0,23,66,1,"X7_11S",4,0,0,246,1,"GYM2",4,2,0,246,0,"POLICE1",4,15,0,246,0,"GF6",1,2,0,246,35,"REST2",4,2,0,246,9,"AMMUN3",4,2,0,246,9,"AMMUN5",4,2,0,246,0,"RCPLAY",4,3,0,246,4,"CHANGER",12,2,0,246,4,"CHANGER",12,2,0,246,0,"SVSFBG",12,0,0,246,4,"CHANGER",12,2,0,246,0,"SVc*nt",12,0,0,246,0,"SVSFSM",12,0,0,246,0,"BROTHEL",1,2,0,24****6,0,"SFHSB2",13,0,0,24****6,0,"SFHSS2",13,0,0,24****7 = Ammunation Heaven7,0,"LAHSB2",13,0,23,6  found 797,1,"GYM3",4,2,0,24  found 297,9,"AMMUN4",4,2,0,24  found 247,0,"8TRACK",2,2,0,24  found 397,3,"OFTEST",0,2,0,24****8 = ????8,0,"BURHOUS",12,0,0,248,0,"SVLAMD",12,0,0,248,4,"CHANGER",12,2,0,248,0,"SFHSS1",13,0,0,24****9 = ????9,0,"LAHS2B",13,0,23,69,8,"FDCHICK",4,4,0,249,4,"CHANGER",12,2,0,249,4,"CHANGER",4,2,0,249,0,"SVVGMD",12,0,0,249,0,"SFHSB3",13,0,0,24****10 = Burgershot Heaven10,9,"FDBURG",4,6,0,24  found 4710,1,"X711S3",4,0,0,24  found 2810,0,"POLICE2",4,20,0,24	found 2710,0,"TRICAS",16,22,0,24	found 4110,4,"CHANGER",12,2,0,2410,4,"CHANGER",4,2,0,2410,0,"SVGNMT2",4,0,0,2410,0,"SVSFMD",12,0,0,2410,0,"VGHSM3",13,0,0,24****	found (Burglary House)Markers Missing from Heaven... may be already in list... need to be translated:59. Abandoned AC tower  	[verdant]?11 = ???11,1,"BAR2",6,7,0,2411,4,"CHANGER",2,2,0,2411,0,"SVLASM",2,0,0,2412 = ???12,3,"CASINO2",7,8,0,2412,8,"BARBER3",4,0,0,2412,0,"MOROOM",12,0,0,2412,4,"CHANGER",12,2,0,2412,0,"SVLABIG",12,0,0,2414 = ???14,8,"CSEXL",4,4,0,2414,0,"CHANGER",4,0,0,2414,0,"AIRPORT",0,2,0,2414,0,"AIRPOR2",1,2,0,2415 = Binco Heaven15,0,"VGSHM2",13,0,23,6  found 8115,0,"VGSHM3",13,0,23,6  found 8115,0,"VGHSS1",13,0,23,6  found 8115,1,"VGSHS2",13,0,23,6  found 8115,8,"CSCHP",4,4,0,2415,0,"MOTEL1",4,0,0,2415,0,"SFHSM1",13,0,0,24****16 = LS Tattoo Heaven16,8,"TATTOO",4,2,0,24  found 6616,1,"X7_11C",4,0,0,24  found 7217 = Rusty Heaven17,0,"FDDONUT",4,4,0,24  found 2317,1,"BAR1",5,9,0,2417,1,"X7_11D",4,0,0,24  found 2017,8,"TATTO2",4,2,0,24  found 19Markers Missing from Heaven... may be already in list... need to be translated:64. Club18 = Zip Heaven18,1,"X7_11B",4,0,0,24  found 5218,0,"ATRIUMX",0,12,0,24	found 6518,0,"ATRIUME",0,12,0,2418,98,"GENWRHS",0,2,0,24	found 718,8,"CLOTHGP",4,7,0,24  found 53Markers Missing from Heaven... may be already in list... need to be translated:87. Lil Probe Inn

 

[OD fa real]

18,98,"GENWRHS",0,2,0,24 = General warehouse

18,90,3,0,"GENOTB",1,2,0,24 = General Off Track Betting?

18,8,"CLOTHGP",4,7,0,24 = Clothes GAP = Zip

sorry bout the general off track betting. thats not in the right place... if you look, i accidentally left extra numbers in the beginning. I've fixed it in the post above

[CarpetDweller]

i've gone throught the recent pages again and noted what needs to be added to the interior list. Just a few questions before i do:

 

What Heaven was Michelle's new interior found in? Was it the Thief heaven?

 

on those codes you sent me - does a name beginning with SV mean it's a save point (safehouse)?

[OD fa real]

yeah, i do believe sv to be safehouse.

 

I've been running thru a few edits of mistakes... of what i thought, and what i turned out to be.

 

like...

 

1,0,"LAHS1B",13,0,23,6 found 78

1,0,"SVVGHO1",2,0,0,24

 

 

I'm learning them as I go along. lol

 

[edit] good lookin with the interior list carpet. I've been fixing this up. I think if we use this list of what interior is what, combined with edison's audiozon map, we should be able to find a few interiors... some that were supposed to even be in heavens we already knew about... maybe even accessible with just the jetpack.

Edited January 9, 2005 by OD fa real

[CarpetDweller]

Did you find nothing starting with 13?

 

Don't tell me they're superstitious?

 

Edit: Has it been confirmed that SF tattoo parlor is in Rusty heaven?

Edited January 9, 2005 by carpetdweller

[OD fa real]

lol... would you believe it? not a damn thing in 13. at least, for the moment.

 

The San Fierro Hidden and Lost Tattoo Parlor is in Rusty Heaven. We've got to find a way into these heavens. I would suggest the 24/7... seeing as how maybe this 24/7 has a weak wall also

[CarpetDweller]

 

Old Interiors list

 

That list grouped into heavens

 

Lists combined with game code

Still in progress at time of posting, but you can see where I'm going.

-------------------------------

 

EDIT: Gradually updating.

 

I've added a few more potential heaven names.

 

can someone test something for me? You'll need the cheats.

 

Fly through the wall of LSPD and head for the girlfriend area. Hopefully you should find Millie's room.

 

EDIT again: Can someone check for airports in Wardrobe heaven? I have a feeling they're grouped with Dider Sachs.

Edited January 9, 2005 by carpetdweller

[Barton Waterduck]

I know advertising isn't allowed, but using this tool here is a much more efficient way of searching for interiors because you can select what interior groups to see and you get the coordinates of them too. It also makes it much easier to see what interiors are normal, unused, hidden and what their original purpose was.

Edited January 9, 2005 by Barton Waterduck

[CarpetDweller]

Ah, but where's the fun in that? I was happy in the old days when we just went flying off into the unknown and occasionally struck lucky.

 

I've knowm from the beginning that exploring a created world is a waste of time because the original designer will have all the maps and know exactly what's out there. It's a bit like pondering on the meaning of existence when you live right next door to God.

 

But sometimes I like a challenge. I'm grateful for any input from people 'in the know' but I enjoyed just looking around myself, trying to solve a puzzle. This is the first topic where I've felt there was a bit of a team effort going into something. King Arthur's knights on the search for the Holy Grail.

 

To be fair though. Thanks. I won't be using it myself as my computer really needs a major overhaul and I'm not going to add more stuff to it before then. Maybe later though.

If someone else turns up with fully detailed maps and lists of everything out there tomorrow, then I won't complain.

 

What you can't see is that all this has just been my way of learning about game design. If I find something interesting and set myself a fun little project to do while I still know nothing - then I usually come out of it knowing far more and with more experience than if I done some evening course in it. I know very little of modding and game design, which is odd as it's probably something I'd be quite good at. But now i've seen some of the basics, it's just another step to try something else.

 

BTW: If somebody wants to use that tool to get all the answers. Remember to post them here .

Edited January 9, 2005 by carpetdweller

[ChaosAlert]

carpet- Here's the list again, just incase it's needed.

 

 

Amphib- Giant cargo ship.

Amphidr- ?

Amphidr- ?

area69- An obvious one, the underground base in the Restricted Area.

Atrium- The building with statues, can be seen from Blue Hell/Ground World/Zip Heaven.

AWARDS- Possibly the outside area used in the mission "Management Issues".

bankbit- The bank in Palomino Creek.

BEACH- Err... the beach?

chips- Warehouse interior, used in "You've Had Your Chips"

chips- Same interior maybe, but without the chip making machines.

chips- ?

chips- ?

Crack- Crack factory used in "Yay Ka Boom Boom".

crack2- Same as above, but damaged and objects missing.

DAM- Generator Hall?

DANANG- Another cargo ship.

DANANG- ?

DANANGI- The inside of the cargo ship?

Grayimp- The giant warehouse used in the mission "Gray Imports".

LOWRIDE- Possibly an area which loads up when starting the Lowrider contest?

Toreno- Toreno's Ranch.

UFOBAR- Lil' Probe Inn in the desert.

uncleSa- A small warehouse.

uncleSa- Another small warehouse.

Upupawa- KACC Military Fules Warehouse.

verdant- The safe house at Verdant Meadows Airfield.

vertica- Aircraft Carrier, the giant ship in Easter Basin.

vertica- Inside carrier, top floor.

vertica- Inside carrier, middle floor.

vertica- Inside carrier, bottom floor.

 

I finally got into the large Ammunation... for some reason I found it hard to find the weak wall, but now it's easy.

Edited January 9, 2005 by ChaosAlert

[OD fa real]

 

can someone test something for me? You'll need the cheats.

 

Fly through the wall of LSPD and head for the girlfriend area. Hopefully you should find Millie's room.

 

EDIT again: Can someone check for airports in Wardrobe heaven? I have a feeling they're grouped with Dider Sachs.

LSPD: can do.

Airport... can't. Don't know where it is. lol

 

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[edit]

 

Yup. Got to millie's from Los Santos PD.

A 24/7 also loads in this heaven.

I'll be checking for more...

Edited January 9, 2005 by OD fa real

[Barton Waterduck]

 

can someone test something for me? You'll need the cheats.

 

Fly through the wall of LSPD and head for the girlfriend area. Hopefully you should find Millie's room.

 

EDIT again: Can someone check for airports in Wardrobe heaven? I have a feeling they're grouped with Dider Sachs.

LSPD: can do.

Airport... can't. Don't know where it is. lol

 

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Yup. Got to millie's from Los Santos PD.

A 24/7 also loads in this heaven.

I'll be checking for more...

The airport cutscene is in group 14 at -1836, 9, 1061.

uh, should be above the SF airport

Edited January 9, 2005 by Barton Waterduck

[OD fa real]

Thanks Barton...

 

btw, is there any interiors under 13... is there any file I've missed when I was adding them in?

 

 

GEN_INT1GEN_INT2GEN_INT3GEN_INT4GEN_INT5INT_CONTINT_LAINT_SFINT_VEGSAFEHOUSSTADINTLEVELMAPGEN_INTB = **** (Not sure if its correct)