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Lycanthrope

Yay! Colts win! WOOOOOOOT turn.gif

 

die.gif BEARS!!!!!!!!

 

 

The game was actually LIVE, here in Aus!

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Dasutin
Man that game was sloppy. It was turnover crazy. But congrats to the Colts.

Since when do they let the game be played in the rain!? What happend to the dome!?

They do it in a large stadium, that's supposed to have good weather. Every other time they went to Miami, they got lucky, and the weather was beautiful. But, Johnny U got another word in, and refused to give the Colts an easy Superbowl win. It rained in the same venue the Baltimore Colts lost to the New York Jets to years ago.

 

As for the quarterback situation in Chicago, I love Kyle Orton. His stats look worse than Grossman, but the Bears didn't have Muhsin Muhammed, they didn't have the offensive line they have now (actually one of the worst in the league, now one of the best), they didn't have Cedric Benson, and Thomas Jones still wasn't playing that great, and the defense (even though it was under Lovie Smith) was horrible. He's careful with the ball, and a patient passer. At Purdue, he threw a lot of underneath passes, and let his playmakers make the plays for him. He didn't force many balls downfield. He was criticized a lot for not having a big arm, and being to careful with the ball, seems like it's just what the Bears need now. Grossman thinks he's Brett Favre, and he's not. Nobody is Brett Favre. Not even Brett Favre is Brett Favre anymore.

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As for the quarterback situation in Chicago, I love Kyle Orton. His stats look worse than Grossman, but the Bears didn't have Muhsin Muhammed, they didn't have the offensive line they have now (actually one of the worst in the league, now one of the best), they didn't have Cedric Benson, and Thomas Jones still wasn't playing that great, and the defense (even though it was under Lovie Smith) was horrible. He's careful with the ball, and a patient passer. At Purdue, he threw a lot of underneath passes, and let his playmakers make the plays for him. He didn't force many balls downfield. He was criticized a lot for not having a big arm, and being to careful with the ball, seems like it's just what the Bears need now.

[Jim Mora voice] Are you kiddin' me?!? [/voice]. Do you remember that Orton was playing only one year ago? The Bears did have Moose and Benson. Thomas Jones was in fact playing great, and he and the O-line (which is almost unchanged) were the only reason their offense did anything last year. Also, the defense was horrible last year? Funny, I remember their defense almost single-handedly winning games for them when Kyle Orton would throw for 20 yards in a game.

 

And this is not a pro-Rex view, but an anti-Orton view. Orton may be careful, but we have no need for a careful quarterback who can't throw the damn football.

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I was so thinking of Craig Krenzel, who I would also take ahead of Grossman. If it weren't for Andrew Walters and Charlie Frye, Grossman would have the distinction of being the worst starting quarterback in the NFL, and he's easily one of the top 3 worst Super Bowl quarterbacks of all-time. If Brian Griese or Kyle Orton had been quarterbacking, they'd have a much better shot at winning that game.

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Griese: probably. Orton... I still don't think so. Obviously Rex was bad, but at least he has the ability to make good throws, which he does on occasion. After watching Orton for almost all of last year, I can't say that he does.

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I was so thinking of Craig Krenzel, who I would also take ahead of Grossman. If it weren't for Andrew Walters and Charlie Frye, Grossman would have the distinction of being the worst starting quarterback in the NFL, and he's easily one of the top 3 worst Super Bowl quarterbacks of all-time. If Brian Griese or Kyle Orton had been quarterbacking, they'd have a much better shot at winning that game.

Yeah right, you don't mean any of that! haha You just want to make us think the Bears would've had a shot at it if Griese was in!

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I haven't believed in Grossman since he was drafted. Even at the beginning of the year, when he was having an MVP-like first half, I kept saying, "Just wait until he's behind." Then, you see it, against the worst team in the league, the Arizona Cardinals. Six turnovers all by himself. He doesn't control the ball, he forced the ball when he doesn't need to, he never takes the dump-off pass, and he gets rattled when he is called on to make a play. He's not a game manager, which is what the Bears need. He has the tools to be a franchise quarterback. The footwork, the arm, the mechanics, but he doesn't have the brain.

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did i see that stat correctly? after the first or second pick in the 4th, they said Rex had 92 yds passing, the Colts D had 94 return yds off the picks. why did Lovie leave him in?

the bears are in good position next year with their cap, they better get someone to put a flame under the Qbs' asses.

and the colts, theyre going to be hurting. $5 million under the cap and so many FAs.

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did i see that stat correctly? after the first or second pick in the 4th, they said Rex had 92 yds passing, the Colts D had 94 return yds off the picks. why did Lovie leave him in?

the bears are in good position next year with their cap, they better get someone to put a flame under the Qbs' asses.

and the colts, theyre going to be hurting. $5 million under the cap and so many FAs.

Yup. But today it was reported that the Colts will be able to convert Manning's roster bonus into a signing bonus, saving them $8 million. That's enough to get June and Freeney back. Then, you add that Corey Simon is probably gone, and that's another $5 million saved. And Rhodes, Morris, and possibly Harper jump back on board.

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did i see that stat correctly?  after the first or second pick in the 4th, they said Rex had 92 yds passing, the Colts D had 94 return yds off the picks.  why did Lovie leave him in? 

the bears are in good position next year with their cap, they better get someone to put a flame under the Qbs' asses.

and the colts, theyre going to be hurting.  $5 million under the cap and so many FAs.

Yup. But today it was reported that the Colts will be able to convert Manning's roster bonus into a signing bonus, saving them $8 million. That's enough to get June and Freeney back. Then, you add that Corey Simon is probably gone, and that's another $5 million saved. And Rhodes, Morris, and possibly Harper jump back on board.

Nice!

 

This upcoming year is going to be thrilling! I can tell right now!

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did i see that stat correctly?  after the first or second pick in the 4th, they said Rex had 92 yds passing, the Colts D had 94 return yds off the picks.  why did Lovie leave him in? 

the bears are in good position next year with their cap, they better get someone to put a flame under the Qbs' asses.

and the colts, theyre going to be hurting.  $5 million under the cap and so many FAs.

Yup. But today it was reported that the Colts will be able to convert Manning's roster bonus into a signing bonus, saving them $8 million. That's enough to get June and Freeney back. Then, you add that Corey Simon is probably gone, and that's another $5 million saved. And Rhodes, Morris, and possibly Harper jump back on board.

if i recall, didnt you say you disliked Rhodes at the beginning of the season? that he's a poor replacement for James. now you want him back?

 

i read on SI.com that Harrison is afraid going over the middle and used mannings int in the SB to prove it. hit him early and he wont be a factor in the game. early in the game he got hit (sorry, i didnt see the game so i cant tell you what play it was) and he had the chance to break up the int but acted like a turtle when the safety got close. i hope he doesnt break Rice's records.

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Dasutin

You didn't watch the Super Bowl, but you're trying to talk football? Marvin Harrison is a tough guy, a very tough guy. The two routes Marvin runs most, are the comeback route on the sidelines, and the short slant route over the middle. Infact, that's one of the plays the Colts are famous for. There's the stretch run, there's the fade route in the endzone, and the quick slant to Marvin.

 

On the interception, Marvin was being double covered, the safety jumped the route and got the pick. Had nothing to do with Marvin "acting like a turtle." He then later had a 22-yard reception on a crossing route... over the middle to convert a third down. And in that game, he took a vicious hit in the middle, pancaked by two defenders, bending his leg behind his back. He finished the game. Yup, he's soft.

 

But, if you really want to delve into it, the Colts don't run many crossing patterns with their wide outs to begin with. They don't run a West Coast offense like the 49ers did. They run a two-TE, vertical passing offense. They use the sidelines, and they throw the ball deep. That's how they play, that's how they've played for Marvin's entire career. So why is it they waited all this time to come to the conclusion he's soft, when the opposite has always been thought of him? He just won a Super Bowl.

 

As for Rhodes, he was a poor starter. He was much better coming off the bench when it came to the playoffs. I'm hoping you atleast knew that Rhodes was the starter all regular season, and Addai was the starter in the playoffs. The stats speak for themselves, but Rhodes had to be taken out of the game several times early in the year beacuse he couldn't run the ball consistently and get the Colts in 3rd and short.

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GTA3Rockstar

I have the AFC winning 38-20!

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ToyMachine

Hmmm, now that I think about it, I've never really seen Marvin Harrison take a hit. He always goes out of bounds or falls down.

 

Maybe he's playing two hand touch.

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Hmmm, now that I think about it, I've never really seen Marvin Harrison take a hit. He always goes out of bounds or falls down.

 

Maybe he's playing two hand touch.

You know what, I would have to say I haven't either! Maybe he got rattled early in his career and didn't want it to happen again! lol

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GTA3Rockstar

31-28 AFC! So, the winners get money or something!? Or so I heard last year! keep this topic actice assholes, its not like we can't' talk about prospects! GTAPlayer, you better come in here often1

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Miller Time

AFC WON!

 

haha Carson Palmer was MVP!

 

go bengals!!!!

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GTA3Rockstar

Marty sh*tenhiemmer has been fired from the Chargers!

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chuck430

i hope they decide to hire Ron Rivera or Rex Ryan, not because i like them or anything but so they dont take Norv Turner from the 49ers offense.

 

maybe its because im in korea, but i havent heard much football talk since the Super Bowl. nothing about FAs or the draft on the websites. i guess there isnt as much hype surrounding anyone like Bush this year.

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GTA3Rockstar

What do you know!? We get to keep our topic, unlike the rest! hahah

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What do you know!? We get to keep our topic, unlike the rest! hahah

WRONG, FUNNYFACE.

 

CREATE A NEW TOPIC.

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