The Untouchable Posted November 30, 2004 Author Share Posted November 30, 2004 oh man, ive been looking for a guide on this mission for ages. nice 1 mate i will try it out. im havin the same problem as every1 else, not being able to return wiv enuf fuel Ok, sounds good! Just knocking this thing up from page 8. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2251868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin_broadus101 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 ya the guide worked for me to kill everyone but i cant get back i have just under 1/4 tank and i don't even come close to making it im getting pissed off and im about to toss it out my window f*ck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (before the guide i could not even kill everyone so it did work thanks) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2254210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimi108 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 (edited) This is one sh*t, mission I have never experienced such a frustrating mission throughout all the GTA's I've played!!! Bad enough the fuel runs out quick but when the couriers take fire on you your gone!! This mission is bullsh*t. I've thrown the PS2 control pad on the wall and punched the tv screen about 20 times now because of this mission. Just when I think Im about to pass I run out of fuel. What a piece of sh*t I tried avoiding this mission so much. I even started and completed the mission at Las Venturas with the CIA dude that makes you buy the airport after that I still see that annoying "Z" initial on my map ARRGHHH Wish me luck as I try to use the guide Edited December 1, 2004 by dimi108 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2254212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimi108 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Victory! The last van, in downtown, just fire away at it once it is in your sights. It does not spped away. It hardly even moves. f*ck this mission. Goodbye. ROFL HHAHAHAHA Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2254222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvin_broadus101 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 THERE i did it THANK GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did what the guide told me to do and bam it only took me about 6 times thanks for making the guide CALVIN Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2254258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkyboy Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 thanks heaps, i wouldn't of been able 2 do it without the guide, btw the next mission is one of my favs thanks again Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2254356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimi108 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 F*ck!! OMG I did it!! I followed the guide!! F*ck that!! One tip: After you kill the 3rd courier and your progressing onto the 4th and 5th sit ontop of a building close to Cj's garage. Wait a few minutes for the last two to start driving around your area close enough to see the red arrow's on the map turn to red blocks. Then go for the last guy first (just sit behind him and nail him with the rounds) and then progress onto the guys on the bike. By the time you finish off the guys on the bike, you will be much closer to the Zero's rooftop and you should have just enough petrol to get you there. I had about 1/10 petrol left by the time I got to the rooftop!! Patience friends Great guide, thanks. Wouldn't have survived without your help Btw haven't seen a guide so comprehensive yet!! Keep it up Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2254380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkk Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I did it on the fourth try, and only due to all who have posted advice--especially Untouchable, though I know many others had a part of it. Without this I might have floundered for a long, long time. May your games never glitch; may you always find a Pay-n-Spray just when you really need one. The thing I found key was: don't open fire until you are landed and aligned, at a safe enough distance--neither too close nor too far, as the vehicles aren't moving very fast until they're trying to evade your fire. I landed and aimed from about where I'd feel confident with an M4, out of good submachinegun and shotgun range but close enough that one single, resolute, ceaseless burst would torch the ride or make the driver dismount. The nightmare is to ding one with a few rounds and have to chase it; if that happens it's a bad day. If you line up on the halted vehicle, conserve fuel and give it that one savage stream of lead, you won't need to strike again. jkk Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2254455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzknuckles Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Sorry, I found this mission quite easy. 7 attempts. 3 first attempts I was just enjoying flying that little plane. @ jkk - nice sig man. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2256132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 I gave up about 2 weeks ago. Used the guide and still couldn't get back to land. Been playing Jak 3 lately. I'll go back at some point but I just got fed up with it. Honestly, I'm not that impressed with th entire game. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2259264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernandofmarte Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Thanks to whoever wrote this.. it really help, and for like 2 weeks i couldn't pass it, but i finally got itl.. with a bunch of fuel to spare... for real, thanks... now i can get on with the rest of my life.. shoot Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2259413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revelution Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Zero Missions - Supply Lines… What a hard mission, eh? Rock solid at first, but quite simple when you actually complete it. Things to consider! There are 3 vans, 1 Sanchez and 1 courier on a BMX. 2 vans and 1 Sanchez are bullet-sensitive. This is described and mentioned in the guide. The plane is very hard to control. It’s best to use the L2 & R2 buttons to turn and the left analog to dive and sharp turn. Although, sharp turning is NOT recommended with this Bandit. The RC Bandit isn’t very tough. If you crash too much or get shot many times, it’ll blow. Then it’s mission failed. Flying and shooting at the same time are difficult. Especially when chasing the enemy. Not recommended. When using the analog stick to control the Bandits turns, use it softly. Pushing it up/down/left/right straight away can cause bad results. It’s safer to use it softly. It’s easy to mess up in the Bandit as it handles awfully. You can spend a long time on the floor, just twisting around trying to get a run up to lift off of the floor. It’s get annoying after a while because it wastes fuel. Keep your head on. You’ll probably get very stressed at this mission. I did. Just keep trying and after around 10 tries, sit and cool down. While you’re cooling down, think of ways of how you can do better and which blips to go for (I’d recommend using the ones in this guide though). Try your best. You’ll do it eventually. Here’s the guide:- When you start, don’t go North. Go towards the van behind you but DON’T target courier first. Get the BMX going down the other road. Start to shoot the guy on the BMX. When he’s on the BMX, he’s invincible. Wait for him to jump off then kill him. Easy. Turn around and go after the first van (the one you flew past to get at the guy on the BMX). It’s quite hard to turn in the Bandit in the tight street space but if you can’t do that, land and turn on the floor until you’re in the right position. Now that you’re out of the street and on the vans tail, you can either land right behind the van and shoot it or shoot it from above. The driver jumps out and falls flat on his face, blast him. Note: You don't need to blow up the van when the courier is dead. Just kill the courier. Now that the courier is dead, go after the next van. It’s about two blocks away. Fly through the streets or over the buildings. Which ever you prefer. When you reach the van, make sure you don’t land or fly in front of it. He’ll spot you and drive away at high speed. Instead, land behind the van, go right up close (so you’re under the bumper) and start blasting. Of course, if you stayed there while you shoot the van, you’d get blown up when the van does. Reverse away from the vehicle (keep shooting). Make sure you’re going in a straight line though, you don’t want to start swerving out of control and losing the van because if it doesn’t get blown up fast, it’ll drive away, quickly. It’s best to do this on corners or at traffic lights but seeing as they drive relatively slow (when they don’t know you’re there) you’ll be ok. 3 down! 2 to go! Fly up, turn around and head North. Make sure you’re high enough so you can evade most buildings so you 1) Don’t have to make a sudden jolt upwards to avoid smashing into a wall, 2) Don’t have to weave in and out of streets and 3) Saves fuel and you keep a constant speed so you’re using your fuel efficiently. Go to the nearest red blip. It’s usually the Sanchez. The Sanchez is the off-road motorcycle and is bullet-sensitive. What I mean is that if you fire even ONE bullet in its direction whether it hits or not, it’ll speed away. This Sanchez has two people on. A driver and a gunner. Watch out for the gunner because the Bandit can blow up VERY easily. It is very frustrating, believe me. The Sanchez is in an area where there are traffic lights. Nearly every time I arrived, they were waiting at traffic lights, PERFECT. Make sure they don’t see you and land behind them. Go up close, but not right up to the back wheel and commence shooting. As you know, Sanchez’s can pelt away pretty quick, but this one doesn’t. You’ve got like a 2-4 second time gap before it gathers its momentum and pulls away. USE IT. Stay stationary and fire at the bike. If it moves a little, press L2 or R2 to follow it. DON’T USE LEFT ANALOG!! If you time your shooting right, position correctly and don’t worry, you’ll have it sorted. 4 down! 1 to go! This van is quite a way away. Don’t worry though, I was at just over ½ a tank of fuel at this point. If you’ve got that amount, don’t get frustrated. If you’re under ½ or just hitting it, you can't really mess up from this point. Fly down the street and pick up altitude so you can fly over the buildings below. It saves time, fuel and worrying about hitting buildings and dodging obstacles. You’ll notice that the next red blip is about 3-4 blocks away. When you arrive at the area that the van is in, do what you did to the other vans. Park up behind it, under the bumper. This is a van that if you don’t blow it up fast, it’ll drive away at top speed and you’ve got little chance of blowing it up. So, if it gets away, mission failed. Try again. Even if the plane was fast enough, you’ve got the fuel and handling to worry about. It’s a shame that they don’t work hand in hand, isn’t it? The handling’s terrible, the speed's average and the gas mileage is absolutely crap! Anyway, when you’re parked behind the van or trailing it (on the road, not in the air), shoot it. If you’re up close, back away but KEEP SHOOTING. It’ll eventually blow up. If it does make an attempt to get away and you’re confident in your flying skills, follow it and shoot. But I wouldn’t recommend it. You’ll be wasting fuel. Also, the planes bullet range is from close-medium so you can stay still for a few seconds when its moving and your bullets still have a chance to hit it. If you wasted the van, you’ll hear Zero say something like, “Yeah! No more couriers. Bring the plane back in one piece” by now you’re thinking, "OMFG! I have to fly ALL the way back!!" Well, yes you do. But it’s easy. You’ve got to get to Zero’s roof which is about 3 minutes fly away. When I was at this stage (after killing the last courier), i had about 2/5 (1/4) of my fuel left. I thought I wasn’t going to make it, but I did. You’ll make it too if you follow these instructions. Fly up and over the buildings and buzz your way towards the blip. To increase speed, fly high up in the air then make a gradual dive towards the ground. You’ll hear the planes buzz get louder. Only attempt this when you’re really high. Just in case you lose control and plummet down, you’ve got reaction time. If you fly over the construction yard, you’re going in the same route as me. If not, don't worry just make sure you've got enough fuel to get back! When you get nearer the marker, you’ll see it atop of Zero’s shop. You have to land there. He’ll say something like, “Land it on the roof” and the marker disappears! “OMFG!” You might think but it comes back when he’s finished talking. No worries. When you land, it says you earn $5000, and Respect +. Congratulations if you completed it! I’m sure you will. If the guide doesn’t work first time, work with it and if some parts aren’t suitable to your situation, change them around so it works with you, not against you. FINISHED VERSION If you have suggestions or comments on the guide and the tips in this post, please share them. --------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- Member Tips! (Worth a look!) GTARyan - Great map! CLICK HERE FOR MAP Couple of things to note. The timings should be evident from the colours used as to when the couriers arrive at any shared junctions, (normally staggered by a couple of mins, how convinient. Each colour represents 2 minutes of game time, I stopped after 10 mins (Hrs) as they were spreading out & I assumed you'de have run out of fuel by this point. Please let me know if this is accurate and/or helped you out. Also another thing to note Courier 4 appeared to get stuck on what looked like the freeway onramp when i did this, not sure if that happens all the time. Your guid f*cking sucks! I tried using your guide like 12 times and I still got "mission failed" I beat the mission without your guide! I found a beat all missions cheat: Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2260535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeNrosenberG Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 No its just that you suck at gaming you prick! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2260742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfacewound Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I had about 1/10 petrol left by the time I got to the rooftop!! Ha! I got you beat. When I landed on the rooftop, I had NO fuel left on the meter. NONE. As soon as the last tiny bit of the bar is gone, you have precious few seconds before you're completely out, and mine had been empty for a good 1-2 seconds when I landed. I wouldn't be surprised if it would've failed me one second later. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2261439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimi108 Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 whoa does that beat all missions cheat work for all the missions or just the mission your currently stuck on? Im stuck on "cop wheels" at the moment. I HATE missions with a time limit absoloutly hate it. Doesn't give me a chance to relax and think Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2261580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremecheese Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 YEAH! I just beat it, and it seems that most of you ARE WRONG!, the bi plane uses up the same amount of fuel no matter going like crazy (x always pressed) - or going slow, therefore DONT TRY AND CONSERVE FUEL, just belt it round never slowing down untill you see the targets then land and take them out... the first time I applied this, I beat the mission.... it really is easy and good fun Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2262390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkk Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 YEAH! I just beat it, and it seems that most of you ARE WRONG!, the bi plane uses up the same amount of fuel no matter going like crazy (x always pressed) - or going slow, therefore DONT TRY AND CONSERVE FUEL, just belt it round never slowing down untill you see the targets then land and take them out... the first time I applied this, I beat the mission.... it really is easy and good fun I didn't notice that it helped to go slower either. If anything, the key to fuel conservation is an efficient route with as much straight and level balls-to-the-wall flight as you can manage. jkk Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2262977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfacewound Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Fuel consumption isn't rated by how much you have pushed down. What wastes fuel is writhing about to and fro, be it on the ground or in the air (though being completely stationary on the ground uses no fuel). The most efficient thing to so is to fly as straight as possible and do the clime/dive technique to gain some speed. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2263344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revelution Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 I used the cheat to beat the game. That's why I beat supply lines (without the guide) and used the cheat to beat the rest of the game in 2 seconds! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2263826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremecheese Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I didn't notice that it helped to go slower either. If anything, the key to fuel conservation is an efficient route with as much straight and level balls-to-the-wall flight as you can manage. Whoops, looked like I jumped the gun too quicky It's just that I've read lots about trying to 'glide' the plane in order to save fuel - which is total rubbish as gliding seems to take up as much fuel as going full pelt. I can only suggest to people who are stuck to spend lots of time practising with the full sized planes before attempting this mission as it reallly is fun (not as much fun as New model army though ) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2264461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoon Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 This man is a genius!!!! the one thing i would add, is when you start your ascent to catch the last two courriers, dont waste time flying too high. (unlike vice city, the cieling in this game is really high!) Thank you so much for helping me put this nightmare behind me! Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2273699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLxDaRkDeMoNxLX Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 nice guide i think this is one of the heardest missioin in the game it took me 10 times to pass it lol and makes it so hard is that you have to return to base lol its 7/10 on difficulty i was like omg but its fun when you reach the next mission really really fun *i would like rockstar to take this Rc missions off* Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2274058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revelution Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Ah the mission dosn't deserve a 7/10! It deserves a 9/10! It is hard it took me like 20 tries! But eventually I beat it, without the guide. So the untouchable, here's a bunch of cookies and a catloaf for trying. Your guide didn't really work for me, strange I don't know why. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2274628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyallen Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I beat it 1st try after I viewed an online movie of someone beating the mission. I followed your guide and tried it a few times before I viewed the movie, and I ALWAYS ran out of fuel before I reached the 4th car. My help: DO NOT STOP BEHIND VEHICLES! It wastes more fuel that its worth, and you can just as easily fly and shoot. I didn't land on the ground once and I finished with 2/5 tank left. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2274788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L B C Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Dude TY SO MUCH I FINALLY BEAT IT!! Yay and i had like a quarter of fuel left thanks to your instructions =) THANKS! P.S. Danny you dont know what you are talking about =) Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2274910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozer Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 i've been doing this f*** mission for almost 5 days now despite that i followed the guide, is it true that people pass this mission? can someone post the video and can someone pls explain to me what is meant when they said possible spoiler or contain spoiler. Thanks Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2275725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkk Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 i've been doing this f*** mission for almost 5 days now despite that i followed the guide, is it true that people pass this mission? A spoiler is something that could reveal a plot element, something most people would want to discover on their own. When I beat the mission, it was because I landed well and shot accurately in each case, then made efficient flights to the next target. It was close, and took me a number of tries. One surprising thing is that you have a very powerful gun, about on a par with an M4 in my book. Torches up vans real nice--but get them lined up and keep the trigger down so they blow. jkk Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2275767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozer Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Thanks for ur reply and ur suggestion, i'll try again, pls if i leave this mission undone and the Zero last mission, will it affect me by unlocking new thing, for example be able to buy all properties or going to LV? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2275833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkk Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 I don't think failing to do Zero's missions holds you up from any advancement except that you have to do them for 100% completion. In any case, I would stick with it. There is so much good advice here. I have had a couple unique jumps, a couple of challenges, several tough missions and driving school, all of which seemed impossible, but I have thus far eventually whipped them all. I'm 41, and I'm under no illusions my reflexes have improved over the years. If I can, you can. jkk Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2275837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozer Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Thanks for that, that's all i need to know, i don't care about 100%, i just wanna have some fun, i know that when SA comes out on PC, there will be a mod that will sort it out among other difficult things. Thanks. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/154331-stuck-on-supply-lines-look-here-guide/page/9/#findComment-2275846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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