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But, playing Dick Advocaat for a moment, it is widely documented that people who worked on the base were highly isolated from each other. There were different levels of clearance, with people segmented and compartmentalised and only working on their own particular 'thing'. In fact, this seems to be a format which is common throughout much of the US secret project work over the past 30 years, particularly with Lockheed and their 'skunk works'.

 

Given such rigidly placed segmentalism (not sure if that is a word but I like it), is it not possible that the alien technology workers were simply never in contact with other workers, and thus never divulged any secrets to them?

 

And it is alleged that they were given quite serious threats if they ever did speak to the press. Their families, for example, were often suggested as being targets of the military's wrath if they gave away secrets. For a decent citizen, the threat of violence against family would simply add to threats upon their own person, and keep their mouths firmly shut.

 

Just a thought.

I, in turn, would tend to agree with you. Compartmentalization is indeed practiced by all these secret style organisations, and yes this would make keeping the secret easier.

 

It's the whole idea that aliens are already here, and were hanging around the base, that I don't buy. Without swotting up on the subject, I am relying on memory. Didn't it start off with a weather balloon, a few confused phone calls to and from a military base that didn't really like taking phone calls, and a public that had been indulging in a little too much "Watch The Skies"?

 

The Aliens were probably headed for Las Vegas, for a little Slot Action.

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Originally intended and still used as military testing site, I doubt anything more sinister is stored there. The worlds spy satellites must still observe the land but I bet this is the intention to 'decoy' more secret locations of notarity.

 

ps, for those who know, Grandal put together some good research on A51 when he formed the A51 gang! Where you at Jimmy?

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Me being a so called "Skeptical Believer", I have a sort of fantasy that there are ufo's and aliens there, but you have to be realistic. Just because it's top secret doesn't automatically mean there are aliens and sh*t (supposedly) like a lot of the public believe. I personally agree with a bunch of you that it's a top secret site for other reasons. I believe the "strange crafts" that people claim are ufo's (using that in the term of extraterrestrial ufo's for you smartasses out there tounge.gif ), I believe they are just top secret crafts that have not been revealed to the public yet. Wasn't the Stealth or the Blackbird flown there and mistaken for a UFO? I don't believe there are aliens or UFO's, just a top secret development site. But one can hope there are extraterrestrials in there right?

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But, playing Dick Advocaat for a moment, it is widely documented that people who worked on the base were highly isolated from each other. There were different levels of clearance, with people segmented and compartmentalised and only working on their own particular 'thing'. In fact, this seems to be a format which is common throughout much of the US secret project work over the past 30 years, particularly with Lockheed and their 'skunk works'.

 

Given such rigidly placed segmentalism (not sure if that is a word but I like it), is it not possible that the alien technology workers were simply never in contact with other workers, and thus never divulged any secrets to them?

 

And it is alleged that they were given quite serious threats if they ever did speak to the press. Their families, for example, were often suggested as being targets of the military's wrath if they gave away secrets. For a decent citizen, the threat of violence against family would simply add to threats upon their own person, and keep their mouths firmly shut.

 

Just a thought.

I, in turn, would tend to agree with you. Compartmentalization is indeed practiced by all these secret style organisations, and yes this would make keeping the secret easier.

 

It's the whole idea that aliens are already here, and were hanging around the base, that I don't buy. Without swotting up on the subject, I am relying on memory. Didn't it start off with a weather balloon, a few confused phone calls to and from a military base that didn't really like taking phone calls, and a public that had been indulging in a little too much "Watch The Skies"?

 

The Aliens were probably headed for Las Vegas, for a little Slot Action.

From what I recall from various documentaries and such, the press and the military first reported it as an alien crash, even going as far as having pictures taken with debris in a farmer's sitting room.

 

They later changed their story from 'alien crash landing' to 'weather balloon.'

 

The stories went on, about alien autopsies, scattered wreckage, survivors, etc, etc, etc, so one can't really know the truth.

 

Personally, I think something did happen out there, and something was taken back to Groom Lake, and remains there now, probably a mile or so under the earth in a nice thick vault.

 

Aliens? Maybe. It's a statistical impossibility that we're alone in the universe. Billions apon billions of stars out there, and some of them have to be able to support life, and life had to have evolved on one of them.

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Yeah, I'm very interested in this kinda stuff aswell.

I think its very possible there are chemical and nuclear weapons in there. America would have to be keeping them somewhere.

I think its possible there are alien corpses in there aswell.

 

I have heard its actually not allowed to be called Area 51 now?

Its actually called something else. My mate watched a doco about it a while ago. I cant remember what he said though.

I agree, I believe theres where they "hide" the nuclear weapons and stuff... I saw a program about Area 51, they showed some "space ships" but I dunno.

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I dont know what it is really. I probably dont want to know either. Whatever it is, the has to be a good reason the government has kept it a secret. I mean thats like the only thing that goes on in this country that is a secret. Damn CNN. Here is a little essay I found while googling. Somewhat interesting.

 

 

"Area 51" is a part of an off-limits military base near Groom Dry Lake in Nevada. UFOers are sure it is used to hide aliens from us. The state of Nevada recently designated a barren 98-mile stretch of Route 375, which runs near Area 51, as the Extraterrestrial Highway. Such a move is no doubt proof of a government attempt to throw us off the track and think there is not a cover-up when there is one. This is a cover-up of the cover-up, typical of government agencies when dealing with sensitive information regarding UFOs and aliens.

 

Since you can be shot if you try to trespass on the military base where Area 51 is located, UFO tourists must view the sacred ground from a distant vantage point. Many do this, hoping for a glimpse of a UFO landing. Apparently, our government has a treaty with the aliens that allows them to fly into this area at will, as long as we can experiment on them and try to duplicate their aircraft. You don't really think that any human could have come up with the idea of the Stealth Bomber, do you?

 

Skeptics don't doubt that something secret is going on in area 51. And what is going on may be more sinister than building secret aircraft or developing new weapons. "Sixty Minutes" did a segment where Leslie Stahl suggested that area 51 might be an illegal dumping ground for toxic substances. If so, Area 51 might turn out to be hazardous to your health in more ways than one. Several former workers at Area 51 and widows of former workers have filed lawsuits against the government for injuries or death resulting from illegal hazardous waste practices. So far the government has been protected from such suits because of "national security." In fact, the government does not even acknowledge the existence of the base known as Area 51. Such denials, of course, do little more than provide more ammo for those who claim there is a government conspiracy to cover up just about anything it's ever been involved in.

 

Source.

 

Also, here is another site and a couple pictures from the site that are pretty intesting.

 

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Leftcoast

I would highly doubt that area 51 is unused now, as much as I would highly doubt that area 51 has any realy secret stuff left. It's probably used for secret testing and houses secret air craft and the like, but I would bet the real juicy stuff is at a location we have never heard of (I think it would have been moved there when area 51 gained so much attention).

 

At least non of this would surprise me. At Beal AFB near Sacromento California (the state capitol) they house secret air craft that no one is supposed to know is there. To my knowledge nothing too cool, just what ever the SR71's replacement is and some other similer stuff.

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I think the US goverment are hiding aliens and black helicopters down there.

The Grey aliens. Try and find some birdseyeview photos of it on kazaa. I have seen a couple and they are interesting.

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My Uncle Dean Minnet, who is in USAF, said that it is mainly for:

test flights

experimental test flights

jet engine speed testing

duribility testing

land rocket speed testing (12mile runway*)

rocket damage testing

rocket design

jet design

jet engine design

bomb design

bomb testing

I would agree with the above, and with anyone else who said there were military tests being carried out there. I once saw footage showing NASA tests of moon-landing craft being carried out there.

 

Of course, conspiracy theorists of the moon-landing say that the faked pictures were in fact carried out in a studio in Area 51. Dunno about that. confused.gif

 

 

As for Aliens, I've always believed extra-terrestrial life exists, and if life-forms / technology has been recovered then it'll certainly be stored somewhere. And Area 51, being such a remote (if high-profile) location would be as good a place as any to hold it. It's all speculation of course, and we may never really know, but given the high-security, there's bound to be more than just weapons testing behind the cordon.

 

Someone call Mulder and Scully. alien.gifcool.gif

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I did some research and found these

 

56K may want to not look

 

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Pretty Big if you ask me.

 

Here's some live accounts of ufos

 

In April 1979, Russian cosmonaut Victor Afanasyev sighted an alien craft whilst in space, he states:" I think we are not alone, something of extraterrestrial origin has visited Earth. The alien craft turned towards ours, followed us and flew formation 25 to 29 metres away. We photographed the metallic engineering structure that was 40 metres long. The film was later confiscated." Victor did in fact make a drawing of the object

 

Gennadij Strekhalov, another cosmonaut - MIR Space Station, relates:

 

"On the last two flights I saw something. During the flight of 1990, I called Gennadij Manakov, our commander to come to the porthole - but we did not manage to put a film in the camera quickly enough. We looked on Newfoundland and the atmosphere was absolutely clear - suddenly a kind of sphere appeared. Beautiful, shiny and glittering - I saw it for 10 seconds - it disappeared. What was it, what size it had? I don't know, there was nothing I could compare with - it was a perfect sphere. I reported to the Mission Control Center, but I did not say I have seen a UFO - I said I saw a kind of unusual phenomenon. I had to be careful with the choice of my words - I don't want someone to speculate too much or quote me wrong".

 

During docking with the Russian Mir space station astronaut Musa Manarov filmed an anomalous object, he stated: "At some point during the filming I caught sight of something I thought had separated from the ship� however, it was not very close, I know this because the camera was focused on infinity. Nothing could have broken away. There were no alarms were going off. Later there were arguments over what possibly it could have been".

 

Source

 

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Fact or Fiction ?

 

Area 51, also known as Groom Lake, is a secret military facility about 90 miles north of Las Vegas. The number refers to a 6-by-10-mile block of land, at the center of which is a large air base the government will not discuss. The site was selected in the mid-1950s for testing of the U-2 spy plane, due to its remoteness, proximity to existing facilities and presence of a dry lake bed for landings. Groom Lake is America's traditional testing ground for "black budget" aircraft before they are publicly acknowledged. The facility and surrounding areas are also associated - with varying levels of credibility - with UFO and conspiracy stories. In 1989, Bob Lazar claimed on a Las Vegas television station that he had worked with alien spacecraft at Papoose Lake, south of Area 51. Since then, "Area 51" has become a popular symbol for the alleged U.S. Government UFO cover-up. For decades the rumours have flown as to what really exists at Area 51.The American government have always rejected the claims as to its existence, not even admitting to it being used as a development site for aircraft. Because of their reluctance to this, the rumours as to what the base is used for have persisted. The experts say it is merely a site for the research and development of military aircraft. The skeptics to this believe it has been the center of major ufo investigations, even going as far as to claim that the base actually holds "unidentified flying objects".

 

History of Area 51

 

For a government facility the size of Area 51 not to be acknowledged gives you an idea how secretive the work carried out there is. Even with the weight of video and photographic proof, the American government are reluctant to speak about it. For decades it has been well documented that groom lake is used as a research and development facility for some of America's finest aircraft.

August 4, 1955: First flight of the U-2 at Groom Lake.

January, 1962: The restricted airspace over groom lake is expanded.

April 26, 1962: Test flight of the A-12 Blackbird at Groom Lake.

December 28, 1965: Second A -12 to crash immediately after takeoff.

November, 1977: F-117A Stealth fighter prototype taken to Groom Lake for test flight.

December 1, 1977: First flight of the "Have Blue" at Groom Lake.

May 4, 1978: "Have Blue" prototype crashes at Groom Lake.

July 11, 1979: The second "Have Blue" crashes 30 miles from Groom Lake

June 18, 1981: F-117A Stealth fighter (production) takes first test flight.

April 20, 1982: First F-117A crashes at Groom Lake.

 

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Yea, makes you think.

 

My personal opintion is that there are probably may be aliens there (probably not) but something really top secret is going on around there. Its werid that no one mention area 51 in the elections bbq.gif

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I'm not a firm believer of aliens on earth. There might be some stuff "out there", but they never came to us.

 

Anyways, it is a top secret military base. So I'm guessing weapons, new aircraft, stealth sh*t, and other military secrets. Mainly a testing place. Or was. I'm sure since it is so famous, the went elsewhere, and soon this will be turned into a tourist attraction.

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One thing you have to remember is that back in the 50's science was....well fking inaccurate, when man landed on the moon back in 69 it was predicted that by the year 2010 we would all be eating living and sh*tting in space. God knows what they thought they could do in the 50's, for all we know they could of been inventing colour TV's/the internet or fuzzy dice, or perhaps something that was inconcivable back then and still is today which they obviously failed at. Like teleportation or the removal of dodgy haircuts from society.

 

Either way I dont believe it serves it's original purpose now and probably is just a testing ground for all sorts of new technology.

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The only way people will find out whats their is if the citizens of the United States of America sign an official document to the goverment that grants them the right to examine the base from inside out and this document means that the goverment cannot intervene because if they did so they would invade your constitutional rights thus meaning the goverment could get themselves in hot water and lose more than just a few hudread million dollars. Ive seen the document around but i cant remeber its exact name, however if loads of people look up for it and get it signed then Area can be revealed legitamitely.

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Liquidiser

Here are some links for area 51 sites

 

 

Area51ZONE.com

contains pictures and information about the military base and its aircraft.

www.area51zone.com

 

Area 51 Headquarters

www.geocities.com/Area51/Atlantis/1545

 

Area 51 Resources

http://users.cihost.com/ata/resources.htm

 

Glenn's Area 51 Page

www.ufomind.com/area51

 

More Area 51 Sites can be seen here

 

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Area+51&s...-tab-web-t&b=11

 

 

 

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QuikSilvr

they said that soldiers have the right to shoot you on sight if you cross into it's boundaries. There's no reason for that. i'd strip and pretend to be sickly just to get a photograph.

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Devyl
IMHO, I think it's just a base where they do test flights of prototype aircraft & the like.... I believe they're drawing all this "paranoia" attention to area 51 so that no one would notice their REAL secret base, an "area 52", if you will.

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Liquidiser

If the area 51 52 etc doesnt exist or if its no big deal to the goverment why are they so protective unless they are hiding something but why doesnt someone make up their own code then write it out wait for the news to ask what its about via the tv and by the time the goverment stop the media others will have it no one is gonna take that lightly. And then all this guy who knows all the stuff can just get on the net and send off the code translation sheet and then we would know whats in their. When one thing goes on the internet if its popular hundreas of websites will host it and then it will get to a thousand and hudreads of thousands then millions

 

 

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The only way people will find out whats their is if the citizens of the United States of America sign an official document to the goverment that grants them the right to examine the base from inside out and this document means that the goverment cannot intervene because if they did so they would invade your constitutional rights thus meaning the goverment could get themselves in hot water and lose more than just a few hudread million dollars. Ive seen the document around but i cant remeber its exact name, however if loads of people look up for it and get it signed then Area can be revealed legitamitely.

the only thing i can think of that even remotely sounds like what you are describing is the freedom of information act. Unfourtunatly that only requires government agencies to disclose documents, and there are several ways that they can get out of releasing information. One being national security. so you wont be getting on the base or much less any information they dont want to give you. There is certainly no "invade[ing] your constitutional rights".

 

 

as for it not being in use anymore. there was a top secret base built in the 60's during the cold war which could house the entire congress and presidency and was built so they could effectively govern, communicate, co-ordinate counter strikes, etc. It was a hidden underground base that had some hotel above it. anyway long story short, loose lips sink ships the story broke and within a year the base was shut down. so it wouldnt be unheard of for area51's publicity leading to its more or less shut down. though i would venture its stull used for flight testing type stuff.

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SalvatoreLeoneOG

Aliens? Sure there might be some, but certainly not on earth. Why? If there is indeed aliens then how come I haven't seen one, if I saw an alien in my front yard walking around, it would be shot.

 

here is a few good reasons why aliens would never invade earth.

 

- Why would Aliens invade a crappy place like earth anyway? I always here they are looking for natural resources or that they are trying to look for a place to live because of violence. Well they obviosuly camed to wrong damn planent.

 

- If they have the technology to come here, then why would they come here to only downgrade what they got?

 

- If they can survive long perioids of a space travel, only to come here to abduct people to see how long they survive ( mid age person in space for a week has a bone strength of an 80 year old ). So why would they use us for expierements. We probably have nothing in common in what our bodies do anyway.

 

- The government uses fear to scare the people. If anyone realized, this UFO bs generates a good part of the economy based on some stupid lies.

 

- If there was a UFO flying anywhere around the world, esepcially over any country with Surface to Air missles sites, it would be shot down. And yes someone would see a blazing fireball hitting the ground. This would be one helluva media story.

 

perfectly good reasons why i don't believe aliens are on earth.

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Leftcoast

 

- If there was a UFO flying anywhere around the world, esepcially over any country with Surface to Air missles sites, it would be shot down. And yes someone would see a blazing fireball hitting the ground. This would be one helluva media story.

 

They have the technology to travel billions of miles through space, but they can't evade one single S.A.M., that sounds a bit odd.

 

Aside from crazy stories (which may or may not be true, lots of things are possible) I have never seen a great deal of validity to aliens being here.

It is, however; possible they are here or do visit. The one thing that makes me wonder now is how transisters were so quick to invade our society. Basicaly transisters just came in a huge wave around the fifties.

 

Even simple electronics and circuits are rediculously complicated when it comes to just about anything more complicated than a power source causing a light bulb to work. Transisters on the, other hand, are out of left field. These things are nuts, and we're just suposed to think that some one just found this stuff out overnight.

 

Going from what we had as far as electronics before transisters to just after is like going from bronze age to industrial revolution in about a 6 month time period.

In some ways it seems more likely that transisters were reverese engineered from alien technology.

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SalvatoreLeoneOG

Yea they would be shot down, not with heat seakers, but I can tell you right now we have so much firepower we can blow the world up hundreds of times, so why not a something barely a fraction of the size eh? Don't you think a freaking laser guided missle *cough*hellfire*cough* would take on these saucer things down? Heat seekers are far too absolute. But remember this, the strongest chain has a weakpoint.

 

Hmmm lets think another thing here. If the aliens are here that gave us this so called technology in a revolution then how come they didn't just give us technology to go to the moon? Or what about new weapons? You know it took so many attempts to get a freaking rocket off the ground, thats some real high quality alien technology eh?

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A few years back, i did quite a lot of research on Area 51, but i havent taken much of an interest lately.

 

My personal opinion is that very high tech weaponary and spacecraft are devloped and tested there. Technology that is at least 10 years more advanced than current civilian tech. Its common knowledge that things like the stealth fighter and what not have been built at Area 51, but whether any of this tech has come from Alien Beings, i cant really say as i am undecided.

 

There is deffo something strange going on there... No fly zones, and base perimetres have been increased over the years, and there have been many lawsuits and court hearings about the facility burning toxic waste.

 

All other government and all private business are required to provide information on their waste disposal procedures under the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act (RCRA), administered by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The President of the United States can exempt "any solid waste management facility of any department, agency, or instrumentality in the executive branch from compliance with such a requirement if he determines it to be in the paramount interest of the United States to do so." Since 1998 both presidents have decided to do this.

 

There is loads of stuff on the net about Area 51, the toxic waste cases are interesting to me because it amazes me that the workers were left to die by there own government simply because of something that they didnt want the world to know about... the question that wont be answered for a long long time is, what is that something?

 

Random quotes from sites to get you thinking...

 

 

Clearly marked but not actually fenced, the entire boundary of the base is patrolled by an anonymous security force equipped with high-tech surveillance gear. Remote electronic sensors detect movement along known dirt tracks and roads leading towards the installation. It has been thought for quite a while now that the surveillance equipment is so advanced that certain sensory equipment has the ability to smell a person coming near the boundary, and distinguish him/her from other animals nearby. The ground patrols, often called "Cammo Dudes", are assisted by FLIR-equipped Sikorsky MH-60G Pave Hawk helicopters.

 

 

 

 

There is much circumstantial evidence to link Groom Lake with (at the very least) experimental high-Mach vehicles. It has even been claimed that a new mother/daughter combination like the A-12/D-21 has been flown, known as the Super Valkyrie. Evidence from base-watchers and elsewhere also suggests other top-secret, Special Accesss Programs that have been conducted at Groom Lake in recent years:

 

High Altitude Stealth Reconnaissance: Large subsonic long-endurance vehicle jointly developed by Lockheed and Boeing to replace the SR-71's ability to overfly denied territory at will. Based on the Skunk Works failed bid for the Advanced Tactical Bomber (ATB) - the B-2, it was cancelled in 1992 after at least $300 million had been spent, and replaced by the Tier 3 Minus UAV (Lockheed's Darkstar).

 

Covert Assault Transport: Probably a delta configuration with advanced V/STOL capabilities but with very low noise as well as radar signature. Probably cancelled in 1993 in favor of further Bell/Boeing V-22 Osprey development.

Stealth Helicopter: Different designs with emphasis on low blade and transmission noise, also exploring new technology to reduce blade and efflux signature. (Sikorsky's new attack helicopter, the successor to the Apache - the Comanche, incorporates stealth technology, but this is being tested elsewhere.)

 

Cloaking Technology: Cloaking technology in the form of electrochromatic panels mounted to aircraft has been revealed as being tested at the Area 51 installation.

 

Recently, a new theory which is of a very good basis has risen which gives an idea as to the glowing objects seen above the Groom Lake installation. Researcher Tom Mahood has mentioned his theory that the objects moving at incredible speeds with sudden directional changes, emitting an unusual glow, could in fact be the result of experimental proton beam systems.

 

 

 

One day two years before he died, Helen Frost says, her husband, Robert, returned from his sheet-metal job at a top-secret Air Force base with flaming-red skin that soon began peeling off his face.

 

"He was a pretty tough guy, but he burst through the door yelling in fear," she recalls. "Every hour, I'd have to take a washcloth and take off some more skin."

 

 

 

During the 1980s, the men say, classified materials were burned at least once a week in 100-yard-long, 25-foot-wide pits. With security guards standing at the edge, Air Force personnel threw in hazardous chemicals such as methylethylketone, a common cleaning solvent, and other things, such as computers, that produce dioxin when burned. The toxic brew, including drums of hazardous waste trucked in from defense facilities in other states, was ignited with jet fuel and typically burned for eight to 12 hours, the men say.

 

 

Quick report about the toxic waste burning etc...

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/blgroomlake.htm

 

Real good site for all info on Area51

AboveTopSecret

 

 

Thanx for reading,

 

Chewie

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GTANUT86

I personally believe that AREA 51 is just an area that is used for hi-tec weaponry, aircraft etc. I also think that there are not any aliens in there, I don't believe in aliens, and until I see one flying above me then I still won't believe it.

 

Anyway there is a brilliant website that I have found which has a lot of pics on Area 51 and includes other pics such as people's stories of visiting Area 51, there also pictures of the "CAMO DUDES" these are the guy's who guard the perimeter of Area 51. It is a big site which I'm sure you will enjoy.

 

Area 51

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just another thug
Seems like a top-secret military technologies base. Or maybe it's a fake base since it is to publicized?

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Octember
Meh, I don't believe in UFOs... I'd blame Star Trek for the UFO fault. Heh, probably some nerds making science projects and testing them around Area 51.

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Shoofly

I belive Area 51 is nothing more than a test base for advanced technology. The reason its kept so secret is just gov tactics.. It will keep the public confused and may scare foreign nations.. The alien thing is BS! (Yes, I do belive there is life out there..)

 

Maybe the worlds only water engine is there? It could be, it would surprise me if they hadnt invented it yet. Though they keep so the world wont colapse by oil becoming 0.000001$ a barrel.

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Chalkstar

Area 51 is a "top secret" military base

 

such aircrafts as the B-2 stealth bomber were tested there, painted black against the night sky

 

however

 

a couple of people who claim to have seem alien aircrafts inside of area 51 have been proven to have been in area 51 previously

this makes their case more beleivable as numerous area 51 personnel beleive that the people making these claims are indeed telling the truth

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kidlitt

Ok this may not be on area 51, but on secret bases, i read earlyer that there are reports that area 51 has been closed scince 1990, and that its operations have been moved elsewhere. I believe that christmas island is a nuclear missilse testing ground and if this is correct, then there may be a base concealed there.

 

Let me explain, there may have been 'hologram' technology have been developed there allowing them to fake the appearace of nuclear explosions there, and therefore because of this left undisturbed and free to test almost any type of technology they wish. Allowing area 51 to take all the attention, and only test smaller technology's. Unlike in the christmas island base where the yare allowed to test very advanced technology.-kidlitt

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