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meth.

What about the Knicks trade? They traded Nazi Muhammed(sp) right? What the hell is the sense in that? And why did Boston trade payton and 2 other guys plus a pick just to get back ant walker?

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JSAN ANDREAS

Yea Nets Won AGainst BobCAts!! The Streak is over! I hope they can win against The Cavs. sad.gif

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C Web was the healthiest player on the Kings. The Kings do not have anything near a 'STACKED' bench. Not even close.  Peja was out almost the entire season. With the trade of Chris they have a much greater chance to re-sign Peja at the end of the season. Yesterday was a prime example of how the the Kings will play the rest of the season. They lost to the Mavs 122-113. Nowitzki dropped 34 and Daniels had 29 points to lead the Mavs to their 3rd victory against the Kings this year.

 

There were so many trades and the Mavs ended up picking up Van Horn for Booth and Henderson. Very good trade. But now this means Bradley is going to have to play more minutes than usual.

 

A trade that really surprised me was the Baron Davis deal. He was traded for two average players. Claxton & Davis. Claxton is young but Davis is going no where with his age. I think the Hornets could've gotten a much better deal for trading Davis.

Kings dont have as strong of a bench as they have in the past few years but its a solid bench. You contradict yourself in your post saying that the Kings showed how they'll be playing for the rest of the year....losing to the Mavs for the 3rd Time. Theyve lost to em WITH C Webb....so whats your point? You make the Mavs sound like theyre a bad team or something....

 

No?

 

 

Actually I make the Mavs sound like THE BEST team. Not the worst.

 

Too many bad trades this Trading Deadline, way too many. Especially the B. Davis trade and the Walker trade. Payton will probably be released and have an opporunity to sign with a better team, which is good for him.

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C Web was the healthiest player on the Kings. The Kings do not have anything near a 'STACKED' bench. Not even close.  Peja was out almost the entire season. With the trade of Chris they have a much greater chance to re-sign Peja at the end of the season. Yesterday was a prime example of how the the Kings will play the rest of the season. They lost to the Mavs 122-113. Nowitzki dropped 34 and Daniels had 29 points to lead the Mavs to their 3rd victory against the Kings this year.

 

There were so many trades and the Mavs ended up picking up Van Horn for Booth and Henderson. Very good trade. But now this means Bradley is going to have to play more minutes than usual.

 

A trade that really surprised me was the Baron Davis deal. He was traded for two average players. Claxton & Davis. Claxton is young but Davis is going no where with his age. I think the Hornets could've gotten a much better deal for trading Davis.

Kings dont have as strong of a bench as they have in the past few years but its a solid bench. You contradict yourself in your post saying that the Kings showed how they'll be playing for the rest of the year....losing to the Mavs for the 3rd Time. Theyve lost to em WITH C Webb....so whats your point? You make the Mavs sound like theyre a bad team or something....

 

No?

 

 

Actually I make the Mavs sound like THE BEST team. Not the worst.

 

Too many bad trades this Trading Deadline, way too many. Especially the B. Davis trade and the Walker trade. Payton will probably be released and have an opporunity to sign with a better team, which is good for him.

No actually you didnt. When you say something like,

 

 

Yesterday was a prime example of how the the Kings will play the rest of the season. They lost to the Mavs 122-113.

 

Youre insinuating that the Mav's are a bad team. I dont consider losing to the Mavs a bad thing, because I dont really expect the Mavs to lose often. Also dropping 113 on the Mavs is pretty damn good. Their offense was just so explosive it didnt matter how much they scored. If I remember correctly. The Kings were leading for a bit down the stretch. So yah you made it sound like the Mav's were some sub par team or something, and no this one game is not an example of what the whole season will be. If the Kings drop 110+ a game, dont expect them to lose much.

 

 

*EDIT*

 

Didnt want to double post so....

 

Yah C Webb's first game, against the Kings. How was it?

 

 

Chris Webber had a chance to tie the game at the buzzer for his new team against his former one – and missed the layup.

 

Ouch.

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JSAN ANDREAS

 

CAVS are at NETS right now. Nets are leading 58-46 in the half. man, I love My Nets. Explosive first half! rah.gif

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{Matty}{Vice}

Lakers are 11 down at the half confused.gif but are very good at come backs. On a lighter note M.Bonner is the 2nd higest scorer for the Raptors.

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JSAN ANDREAS

YES! Nets WIN! Man, we had a drought that made the Cavs come back to a very close game, but then my boys, Kidd and Carter stepped up and gave us a 104-98 win. rah.gifrah.gif WOOHOO!

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YES! Nets WIN! Man, we had a drought that made the Cavs come back to a very close game, but then my boys, Kidd and Carter stepped up and gave us a 104-98 win. rah.gifrah.gif WOOHOO!

Wow, seems like your quite a Nets fan. If they had Jefferson they'd win the Atlanitc Division. But with Jefferson injured they have a slim chance to get into the playoffs.

 

I'm a NBA Fan and I think LeBron James is one heck of a player. He's only 20 years old and averaging 25+ PPG. He has a good chance to be the next MJ. What are your thoughts on how good LeBron will be?

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9jkearse3

well the knicks have won three straight and they were agains pretty decent teams (sixers, Pacers, Lakers) too bad its to little too late to turn their season around but i'll hope for the best

 

 

Chris webber plays tonight in just his second game as a sixer btu he might sit out to rest that knee

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JSAN ANDREAS

 

YES! Nets WIN! Man, we had a drought that made the Cavs come back  to a very close game, but then my boys, Kidd and Carter stepped up and gave us a 104-98 win. rah.gif  rah.gif  WOOHOO!

Got that right...Jersey Forever! NETS

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Phatgordo13

I honestly dont think the Nets are something special. Theyre no cake walk, but theyre not a playoff team. Kidd, should be an MVP caliber player but he's not. Carter should be as well, but hes not. What does that make the Nets? Has beens? Wanna bes? The Net's are sitting at 25-32. Thats a 43.9 winning percentage. Theyre in 3rd place in their division ahead of two teams I consider more dangerous and much more of a playoff team then the Nets are. Chris Bosh and the Raptors can play, dont even get me started about why the Knicks are a better team then the Nets.

 

Im really kinda getting bored with the Nets fans running post counts up in here with play by play commentary during every single game. Look if I cared Id watch the game. Or at least catch the high lights. Im just getting tired of ready this Net's garbage.

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9jkearse3

well Usher no partyl owns the cavaliers. what is it with music artists and owning teams like jay-z/Nets, Nelly/Bobcats and now usher

 

 

Alonzo mourning returns to the heat and will be paid 325K fro the rest of the year

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JSAN ANDREAS

@ Gordo:Hey, maybe you don't have a favorite team, so you don't know how it feels to be a fan of a team. I'm just showing my support, and if you don't like that, too bad. This is an NBA topic you know, so i can post wutever I want NBA related. I don't care if you don't like The Nets, everyone has their own opinions. You can hate them all you want. All I'm saying is please refrain from flaming about a team or whoever likes that team. Good day. dozingoff.gif

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@ Gordo:Hey, maybe you don't have a favorite team, so you don't know how it feels to be a fan of a team. I'm just showing my support, and if you don't like that, too bad. This is an NBA topic you know, so i can post wutever I want NBA related. I don't care if you don't like The Nets, everyone has their own opinions. You can hate them all you want. All I'm saying is please refrain from flaming about a team or whoever likes that team. Good day. dozingoff.gif

That wouldnt be flamming, thats called arguing. I was trying to spark debate. I might have come accross to strong as my argument was supported by facts and truths. Quite complex compared to the never ending flow of "Go Nets, Kidd just made a free throw!" posts coming from your direction. Im a Bulls/Kings fan, as I stated in my first post here a few days back. You might have missed that because it probably got lost in all the pointless Nets Rock posts.

 

Does my opinion upset you? Hurt you? Do something about it.

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JSAN ANDREAS

Wtf!?! Why are you trying to start something? I wasn't mad at you. CHILL! All I'm saying is you didn't have to say Nets were garbage and rant on about how the players suck. I don't care if you put "Yes Bulls win! Or "Nice, Kings are on a run!" That's what the NBA topic is here for. I wouldn't flame your team saying that the Bulls/Kings are garbage like you did to me. If you wanna let your anger out on The Nets, then vote here. NBA Team voteoff biggrin.gif So we cool?

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Wtf!?! Why are you trying to start something? I wasn't mad at you. CHILL! All I'm saying is you didn't have to say Nets were garbage and rant on about how the players suck. I don't care if you put "Yes Bulls win! Or "Nice, Kings are on a run!" That's what the NBA topic is here for. I wouldn't flame your team saying that the Bulls/Kings are garbage like you did to me. If you wanna let your anger out on The Nets, then vote here. NBA Team voteoff biggrin.gif So we cool?

oh yes Im furious. I actually threw a chair clear accross my room in anger in the middle of my post. I dont think youre this incompetant but look. Im not flamming the Nets. No, Im expressing my opinion against the Nets in a thought out debatable method, because Im tired of you spamming the topic up with your pointless posts. So Ive put together a well constructed argument which you havnt even replied to yet because youre trying to tell me whats up and how things should be done.

 

No thnx. Nets are still garbage.

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@JSA: You missed his point completely. Look at the name of this forum: "Sports Discussion." That's right, DISCUSSION. Phat's just trying to start some structured debate or DISCUSSION about how he views the Nets instead of just coming in here every night to praise the Bulls/Kings for no particular reason.

 

And as a true fan, you should be willing to consider your own teams weaknesses instead of getting all defensive just because someone else doesn't agree with you.

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as a true fan, you should be willing to consider your own teams weaknesses instead of getting all defensive just because someone else doesn't agree with you.

 

What weaknesses were mentioned about my team?

 

 

...theyre not a playoff team. Kidd, should be an MVP caliber player but he's not. Carter should be as well, but hes not...What does that make the Nets? Has beens? Wanna bes?.....Nets are still garbage.

 

Oh yea, they're weaknesses all right. There were never any weaknesses mentioned about my team. Those were all just attacks on my team! So there's nothing to debate about. If there is any, Ok yes, I'd be happy to discuss their weaknesses. I know they have weaknesses. They always get droughts in the second half, Too many unwanted turnovers, Problems in the Big Man area. Those are weaknesses my team has. "Nets are garbage" and "Carter isn't an MVP" aren't.

 

W/e.. let's just get back to where this page was before all this hype.. ok? End it.

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as a true fan, you should be willing to consider your own teams weaknesses instead of getting all defensive just because someone else doesn't agree with you.

 

What weaknesses were mentioned about my team?

 

 

...theyre not a playoff team. Kidd, should be an MVP caliber player but he's not. Carter should be as well, but hes not...What does that make the Nets? Has beens? Wanna bes?.....Nets are still garbage.

 

Oh yea, they're weaknesses all right. There were never any weaknesses mentioned about my team. Those were all just attacks on my team! So there's nothing to debate about. If there is any, Ok yes, I'd be happy to discuss their weaknesses. I know they have weaknesses. They always get droughts in the second half, Too many unwanted turnovers, Problems in the Big Man area. Those are weaknesses my team has. "Nets are garbage" and "Carter isn't an MVP" aren't.

 

W/e.. let's just get back to where this page was before all this hype.. ok? End it.

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Wow. You are f*cking stupid.

 

Lemme put my post into an easy step by step points list of weaknesses so you can see them, understand them, and reply to them. Ok?

 

 

  • Kidd should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.
  • Vince Carter should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.
  • The Nets are 25-32
  • Nets winning % is 43.9
  • 3rd place in the division
  • Ahead of 2 teams I consider better.
  • Raptors & Knicks are better

 

Is that easier?

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GTA WAR

Seattle makes no moves before deadline. Great move, no move. Team is doing great. Teamwork will prevail.

 

Seattle Sonics. rah.gifrah.gifrah.gifrah.gif

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JSAN ANDREAS

 

 

 

 

Wow. You are f*cking stupid.

 

Lemme put my post into an easy step by step points list of weaknesses so you can see them, understand them, and reply to them. Ok?

 

 

 

Kidd should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.

 

Vince Carter should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.

 

The Nets are 25-32

 

Nets winning % is 43.9

 

3rd place in the division

 

Ahead of 2 teams I consider better.

 

Raptors & Knicks are better

 

 

Is that easier?

Those aren't weaknesses man. Those are all just stats, facts, and opinions.

 

As I said before, the weaknesses my team has are

 

*too many turnovers

*The Big Men in our team except Krystic, aren't stepping up

*Our defense gets REALLY bad in the second half

 

The things you mentioned.

 

•Kidd should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.(Fact, although, he isn't a MVP contender, he's been helping the team so much with his triple doubles. All the rest of the team has to do is step up and help him.)

•Vince Carter should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.(Fact, although, since he went to the Nets, he has boosted up his stats a lot and has helped the team win a lot of games by scoring double digits.)

•The Nets are 25-32 (Stat, not really a weakness.)

•Nets winning % is 43.9(Stat, not a weakness)

•3rd place in the division(Stat, not a weakness)

•Ahead of 2 teams I consider better.(Your opinion, not a weakness of Nets.)

•Raptors & Knicks are better(Your opinion, not a weakness of Nets.)

 

I have nothing against you, so plz stop thinking that saying I'm f**king stupid.

 

I really love debating and we should do more of this in other topics. It's pretty fun, really, you and me, discussing arguments. I have a blast doing this. cool.gif

 

If you don't like me talking about Nets a WHOLE LOT as you can see, like telling you all everything they do and wut their scores are, then okay, i'll try and refrain from doing it. I wish this topic can go back to where it was before this debate. Here I'll start.

 

So, how do you think Webber will do now that he is in The Sixers? Ever since Iverson recorded that phenomenal 60 pt game against the Magic(Sixers winning 112-99), the Sixers have lost three of their last 4 games. In their last game against Webber's former team, The Kings, they fell short with a 99-101 loss. Webber's debut(11 Rebounds,16 pts) didn't come out as he wanted but he feels happy with the effort that his new team had made. AI had 27 pts in this game. Let's see how Philadelphia does in their game today against the Bucks and aginst my Fellow Nets on March 2nd. cool.gif

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Phatgordo13

Nah Im not done.

 

 

Those aren't weaknesses man. Those are all just stats, facts, and opinions.

 

Yes they are weaknesses. Definition of weak

You see Vince Carter and Jason Kidd are supposed to be premire players of the leauge and all though VC has been playing well, neither have been what they can be. The best. When youre not performing to your potential, thats being weak. When the team suffers from it, that'd be considered a weakness.

 

 

•Kidd should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.(Fact, although, he isn't a MVP contender, he's been helping the team so much with his triple doubles. All the rest of the team has to do is step up and help him.)

The stats havnt showed. The numbers havnt shown anything like this. Look at their record. Kidd is supposed to be carrying the team, not being carried by the team.

 

•Vince Carter should be an MVP contender, but hasnt performed.(Fact, although, since he went to the Nets, he has boosted up his stats a lot and has helped the team win a lot of games by scoring double digits.)

You know very well Vince isnt anything what he could be. Like he was only a couple years ago.

 

 

•The Nets are 25-32 (Stat, not really a weakness.)

•Nets winning % is 43.9(Stat, not a weakness)

•3rd place in the division(Stat, not a weakness)

When youre losing, thats a weakness. Its pretty simple. Youre trying to make this alot more complicated than it is, and youre looking like a fool in the process. Strong teams win. Weak teams lose. Are you catching on yet?

 

 

•Ahead of 2 teams I consider better.(Your opinion, not a weakness of Nets.)

•Raptors & Knicks are better(Your opinion, not a weakness of Nets.)

Those are opinions but I think its common fact that put the Knicks/ Raptors vs Nets in the playoffs and who's going to crunch? You can down talk that all you want, but you know very well, deep inside, past all your pride the Nets cant compete.

 

 

I have nothing against you, so plz stop thinking that saying I'm f**king stupid.

I love Irony.

 

You said there were no weaknesses pointed out in my post and you said youre not dumb, but as soon it was put out in points that even a 3 year old could understand, you agreed to at least 2 of my points. Whos proving what here?

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You can say your team is better than mine..pretty much anyone! (exept you poor hawks fans).. My team...the BOBCATS! I know the team stinks, but they got an excuse to suck..Atlanta isnt an expansion and they suck worse!

I would hate being an NBA fan in Atlanta..or sports fan for that matter.

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You can say your team is better than mine..pretty much anyone! (exept you poor hawks fans).. My team...the BOBCATS! I know the team stinks, but they got an excuse to suck..Atlanta isnt an expansion and they suck worse!

I would hate being an NBA fan in Atlanta..or sports fan for that matter.

Bobcats will be a decent team in a few years. I think theyve got a strong base to work with. Another big draft pick this year and theyll be speeding down the right road.

 

Atlanta Falcons? Atlanta Braves? Cant be that bad down in A Town.

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I can tell you one team that will be good.. Thats the Golden State Warriors.. PG Baron Davis and SG Jason Richardson will probably make a few highlight reels. I say in 2-3 years they will be one of the best teams, there young and have a up coming Forward's Rodney White and Troy Murphy.. Watch Out ! !

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I can tell you one team that will be good.. Thats the Golden State Warriors.. PG Baron Davis and SG Jason Richardson will probably make a few highlight reels. I say in 2-3 years they will be one of the best teams, there young and have a up coming Forward's Rodney White and Troy Murphy.. Watch Out ! !

Highlights DO NOT = Wins

 

I agree sort of because I think the Warriors should be doing alot better. B Diddy and Richardson is a good place to start but I dont think they have depth, which hurts alot.

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I can tell you one team that will be good.. Thats the Golden State Warriors.. PG Baron Davis and SG Jason Richardson will probably make a few highlight reels. I say in 2-3 years they will be one of the best teams, there young and have a up coming Forward's Rodney White and Troy Murphy.. Watch Out ! !

Highlights DO NOT = Wins

 

I agree sort of because I think the Warriors should be doing alot better. B Diddy and Richardson is a good place to start but I dont think they have depth, which hurts alot.

Sorry to bust your nut. But I never said Highlights win games .. I just said that Baron Davis and Jason Richardson will get some Highlight Reels..

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noodles

I haven't posted in this topic in a long time. Then again I'm a Knicks fan...

 

@JSAN ANDREAS

Sports debate is what is supposed to take place in topics like this. If someone says your team sucks or says your opinion sucks, it's nothing personal. Insteadof taking offense, counter their argument with your own evidence. It gets tiring seeing posts with liitle substance in them.

 

As a Knicks fan, I'm in limbo. The team is an eigth seed at best (with a little luck) and a first round knockout. So do I root for them to make a run in the second half of the season, or do I hope they continue their losing ways and lock up a high draft pick? I've never been a fan of teams tanking for draft picks but when you see that your team is in this unique position (first round playoff casualty or late draft pick) you can't help but think about what they could get with a top five draft pick.

 

That said, they did pick up Trevor Ariza with a late pick last year so it's possible to find some talent later on. Atleast guys like Michael Sweetney are getting some playing time.

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I haven't posted in this topic in a long time. Then again I'm a Knicks fan...

 

@JSAN ANDREAS

Sports debate is what is supposed to take place in topics like this. If someone says your team sucks or says your opinion sucks, it's nothing personal. Insteadof taking offense, counter their argument with your own evidence. It gets tiring seeing posts with liitle substance in them.

 

As a Knicks fan, I'm in limbo. The team is an eigth seed at best (with a little luck) and a first round knockout. So do I root for them to make a run in the second half of the season, or do I hope they continue their losing ways and lock up a high draft pick? I've never been a fan of teams tanking for draft picks but when you see that your team is in this unique position (first round playoff casualty or late draft pick) you can't help but think about what they could get with a top five draft pick.

 

That said, they did pick up Trevor Ariza with a late pick last year so it's possible to find some talent later on. Atleast guys like Michael Sweetney are getting some playing time.

I think the Knicks are too good of a team to just say oh well, theres next year. Its too late to say well....keep losing get a better draft pick, because theyll just end up a middle team that didnt make the playoffs and will draft a bust, and be in the same position next year, if they just slump now. The only way you could get a good draft pick now, is lose all your games. lol. Look forward and see if the Knicks can make some noise.

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I like going all the way up to see the pacers...RIOT!!! RIOT!!! RIOT!!!

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