DJ-Jelly-Doughnut Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Okay, the last like.. week I've been playing GTA3.. started a new game, beat it all 100%.. then I decided.. hell, I'll put in Vice City.. so I put in Vice City.. go to playing it.. then I realized.. "this sucks..." What's up with that? What does GTA3 have that Vice City doesn't? Because isn't Vice supposed to be better?^o) -DJJD Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamcs Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 The roads in VC are very boring, preditcable etc, and the gangs suck - majorly. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-shaDow Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Only thing I like better about Vice City is the handling of the cars. Other than that, GTA3 is better in every other way. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ-Jelly-Doughnut Posted August 14, 2004 Author Share Posted August 14, 2004 Other than that, GTA3 is better in every other way. Yes, but why? That's the question.. WHY is it better? -DJJD Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-shaDow Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Story/Plot was better, gangs were better, and I guess the present-day type setting was more appeasable than Vice City's setting in the 80's, because most gamers playing this weren't even around to experience/remember the 80's. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-hawk Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Also gta3 was harder, and I think rockstar just slacked of on Vice, it just got a few tweaks here and there. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black-hawk Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Dang timeouts Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoplandVictim Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Story/Plot was better Tell me how so, VC had a half decent storyline in GTA3 you play as a nameless criminal who never talks and does nothing but what he's told. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 I still prefer gta3 over Vice City. What makes it better for me, are the cars. The setting, oh and the hills. Vice City is way too flat. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartleby Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Vice City is way too flat. This was one of the reasons for me too. The terrain of Vice City was just so barren in terms of hills. Some other reasons I think GTA3 was better were: 1. The guns. I just think there were too many in Vice City. There were about 10 in GTA3 you could use, so you easily remembered every weapon. 2. The time it's set in. I think more people can relate to 2001 than they can 1986, it's just a more modern game than VC is, at least in terms of timeline. 3. The gangs. The gang wars, the shootouts, the missions, etc. They made that game very fun to play, especially when you were fighting the Triads or Cartel in the game. In VC, gangs didn't have as much of a role, so some people who preferred the latter didn't like it as much. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demarest Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Fido's anonymity gave him a more threatening presence. "It's the quiet ones you have to watch." And everything everybody else said. Plus the drearines of the city was better for mayhem. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1881946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spuds725 Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 They had to make VC flat--- if you have ever been to Florida you would know why. The highest mountain is Space Mountain at Disney World. As the resident "Old Fart", I loved the 1986 setting for the game (especially the music) but the storyline and the lack of gangs and their place in the storyline in VC was very apparently lacking after having played GTA:III-- you can complete VC's storyline without doing the Cuban or Haitian Missions--and the few gangs you deal with in the storyline are kind of wimpy. I did like the variety of weapons in VC but you should have been able to carry multiple weapons of the same class (at least 2)-- how does a person decide between the rocket launcher and the M60. III's story was better but VC made up with it with Helicopters and Motorcycles. I love them both. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1882018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibsonLP92 Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 For me GTA3 story was better. In Vice you just happened to be supported by a lawyer. He gave you your beginning contacts (cortez, avery) which led to Diaz and owning a manshion. In GTA3 you fought your way to the top..8ball just introed you to the Mafia. You got a girl. In my opinion the peds were as stupid as they were in Vice. I mean they could now sit down while scratching there heads. I think they could have done alittle better. Vice was good but 3 was groundbreaking. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1882395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
facugaich Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 I guess the present-day type setting was more appeasable than Vice City's setting in the 80's, because most gamers playing this weren't even around to experience/remember the 80's. Damn right, the 80's in VC just suck. Also the cars were a lot better than those squares with wheels in VC. But I don't play GTA3 anymore, reason? VC runs 1000 times faster in my computer. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1882508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ-Jelly-Doughnut Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 yeah.. too flat.. too big too, I think with Vice, Rockstar was in one of those.. "we already know it'll sell like pet rocks.. (when they were popular.. not now" so they didn't put as much effort into it as they did for GTA3.. Vice was too simple.. like..too flat, took the easy way out.. yeah.. -DJJD Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1882927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn B. Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 (edited) Too flat? It's Florida... Cars too boxy? If you have ever seen a car from the '80's, they weren't the most curvy, sexy cars ever. Personally, I liked VC better than 3 for the simple fact that I could actually run around 95% of the map without getting shot at. In 3, no matter where you went, there was a gang that hated you. Sure, the fact that more gangs hate you as you take over there area is realistic and all, but I am a guy who also likes to just jack around on the game. I'm not a serious gamer, and the fact that I hardly ever play either game, makes my decision the way it is. Vice City was more laid back, IMO, compared to 3. If I hadn't played for 3 months, and I decide "I'd like to play some GTA", I don't want to have to worry about going here or going there and having people chase me with shotguns, machine guns, or pistols. I'd rather go where ever I want, jack a vehicle, cruise around, shoot some people, and just have nice, relaxing time while playing. Screw GTA3, IMO. Sure, I'm glad it started the whole GTA thing back up, and I'm certainly glad that it lead to VC; but since I am not a hardcore gamer, fun games are more appealing to me. Whatev, I'll probably get flamed by you guys, but I don't really care. Edited August 15, 2004 by Shawn B. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1883011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAT!? Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Yeah Vice is boring as hell to just run around in. I have to start a new game and do the story line missions to stay entertained. As for why GTA3 is better it just had that "somthing" its atmosphere was just right, the city was great, the pepole you came in contact with were interesting. More mafia/organized crime element, more gangs, better plot. Landscape was more thought out, made cruising around and doing stunts a lot of fun. It was just plain better. GTA3 beats Vice hands down. The only thing I miss from Vice when playing GTA3 is the bikes and helicopters, but then thats what GTA:LC is for. @ Shawn B. - If you have the PC version of GTA3 there is a mod out that takes all the gang hostility away. You can cruise anywhere and not get shot at. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1883131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteakPhish Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Liberty City has a much cooler atomosphere and generally a much cooler vibe. It just has a better...FEEL. You can't really describe it. However, I've been doing many a stunt in Vice City for my next video and I have to tell you that once you go hunting for stunt spots, the true hugeness of Vice City really begins to show. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1883158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 Yeah Vice is boring as hell to just run around in. I have to start a new game and do the story line missions to stay entertained. Hear hear. I dont know how many times I have finished that game in order to keep myself amused. GTA3 is just fun. I have a banshee in my Shoreside vale garage, I just start there and do the unique stunt jump across the dam and go from there. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1883165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bored Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 You got a girl. wasn't there a girlfriend in VC? i've only played a little, but i've heard people talking about cortez's daughter being a love interest. i figure she doesn't have as big a part in the plot as Maria in III, but she's still suposed to be something for Tommy. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1883919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ-Jelly-Doughnut Posted August 15, 2004 Author Share Posted August 15, 2004 yeah.. seems you do have to have missions in order to have fun with Vice City.. having 100%.. just seems boring.. drive around.. do R3 missions sure.. but.. those are repetitive and boring.. I kinda liked the fact that GTA3 had it's own music.. instead of like.. actual songs and stuff.. kinda liked that.. I dunno.. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1884238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Vercetti Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 I may be way off, but I think that GTAIII's superior atmosphere largely comes from the fact it's set in it's very own world. An entirely different universe that only faintly resembles ours. I think that in Vice City, Rockstar tried too hard to make it feel like 1986 Miami. The map is much closer to Miami than LC is to NYC. The soundtrack, while being one of the things that makes Vice City shine, was not as original as GTAIII (nor as funny for that matter...). What I mean is, Vice City just felt to "real." Like I said, I may be way off, but LC just captures that sandbox appeal much better. And the hills. It's like a roller coaster versus a monorail... lol. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1893233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartoon Corpse Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 well i liked vc better. also played it first. i like the miami beachy feel, better than the grungy NY feel of GTA3. I did like the game okay thoug. i just didn't finish 3 because it ran laggy on my pc while vc ran perfect max everthing for some reason. gta3 also started messin up my money after i learned to jump the bridge girders to get all packages before mission, plus i hated the dodo mechanics. those are the reasons i moved on. also don't have a great deal of time to play games, so i've shelved several games that were less than engrossing to me. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1893803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBMAN Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Nah,Mercedes is just a ho.I like GTA III better,because it FEELS better.The hills,the city,everything.I never get bored.Vice is fun too,but mostly on missions. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/143228-wtf/#findComment-1893811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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