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Mr.Montana

I started playing the guitar about 2-3 months ago...I've gotten a little better but I can't seem to get my guitar in a good tune. I can play the beginning of One by Metallica and also Welcome Home (Sanitarium) by Metallica. I picked up a tab book of Led Zeppelin songs, and I can't play sh*t out of that.

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Sir Smoke-A-Lot
I started playing the guitar about 2-3 months ago...I've gotten a little better but I can't seem to get my guitar in a good tune. I can play the beginning of One by Metallica and also Welcome Home (Sanitarium) by Metallica. I picked up a tab book of Led Zeppelin songs, and I can't play sh*t out of that.

yeah, i'm about the same as you man. the only thing i need to improve on is my speed.

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ZoSo

Ive got a good speed its just the accuracy that I need to work on.

 

 

@Montana: Ive got a zeppelin book too and I can only play one thing out of there. It just shows you how great Jimmy Page was with his guitar work.

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Timage

I've been playing for over a year now (Acoustic and Electric) and I'm looking to dive into more complex songs. I'm trying to play Johnny B. Goode and Classical Gas, I've got them pretty good (I can play classical gas at the same tempo of the song, Johnny B. Goode is pretty hard, haven't got the hang of the speed yet). Was just wondering what songs I can try that are around the same difficulty, maybe a little easier?

 

Also, I recommend Steller by Incubus as it's an awesome song and is great to play.

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street cheetah

 

I've ran into powerchords before, I just haven't played a lot of stuff that utilized them because I sucked at them.  lol 

 

@laslow

What are hammer offs?

 

 

And basically what I was asking is how do you actually apply the knowledge of scales, keys, etc. to writing stuff for your guitar.  That's the only part I don't get about it.

 

The only real powerchorded song I suck at and can't play is Smoke on the Water.  I can't play Smells LIke Teen Spirit 'cause I can't figure out the rythym and how to fit those fret mutes in. 

 

I think he means pull-offs. And to answer your question. I've been playing guitar for 6-7 years now so I'll try to help you guys out when I can. When you write solos and some melodic parts, you just use the different notes on the scale. You can choose to bend them to a different note on the scale, slide to a different note on the scale, etc. And then you can even go different by changing the scale and going like an octave higher on that same note for sweet high pitched sh*t. Like Hendrix and Zeppelin played a lot of solos on the different blues scales using them to rip out sweet solos. But you guys can try things different too. Some bands nowadays don't really use many "musical rules" and they just make songs that sound cool to them. Enjoy smile.gif

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Mr.Montana
@Montana: Ive got a zeppelin book too and I can only play one thing out of there. It just shows you how great Jimmy Page was with his guitar work.

Yeah he truly was a good guitarist. I picked up the Led Zeppelin Classics or somethin like that. Stuff in there is rough man.

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ZoSo
@Montana: Ive got a zeppelin book too and I can only play one thing out of there. It just shows you how great Jimmy Page was with his guitar work.

Yeah he truly was a good guitarist. I picked up the Led Zeppelin Classics or somethin like that. Stuff in there is rough man.

@Montana: You wanna see something rough? Look at Stevie Ray Vaughn's songbooks. Jimi Hendrix too. Its bloody crazy.

 

@Timage: Im learning Hendrix's version of Johnny B. Goode. Awesome song. Hard to play, but its a good start into complex songs. But if you want really complex stuff, just look into the reknowned guitarists of the 60s and 70s. Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Kieth Richards, Brian May, Stevie Ray Vaughn, they should give you something to work for.

 

@Street Cheetah: Thats what I do when I write solos. Ive always pointed out that people like Page and Hendrix and Vaughn and Johnson always used the same scales you know but all of their work sounds so unique. No one usually understands what Im saying anyway but I feel good to know that I made them almost care. But you know sometimes they have their trademarks. Hendrix and Vaughn (Vaughn was like the white Jimi Hendix, and Vaughn respected Hendrix greatly) they played behind their head, with their teeth, with their elbows or nads or whatever. And Jimmy Page used a violin bow on his guitar. I mean, they dont teach you that in guitar class.

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street cheetah
I've always loved Stevie Ray Vaughn and I love playing his songs. The scales are various forms of the blues scale but they use them in a way to fit their unique style. But I would not say that Vaughn is a white Hendrix. tounge.gif He's way different and unique, man.

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Saggy

Does anyone know of a really quick and easy way to get the innotation on a guitar right besides a guitar repair shop?

 

The problem with doing it myself is that the screws for the saddls are RIGHT under the strings themselves. So, I'd have to manuver a screw driver around a string and try to screw, meanwhile the heads of the screws aren't even pointing straight up: They're facing the first pick-up. The only really way I could do it within a year is go get one of those angling screw drivers. That doesn't even cover having to re-tuned strings every time I move one of them, and then testing which required me actually being able to play harmonics correctly. I don't know if I can play harmonics, and I can't find out until my guitar is properly innotated.

 

So, I'm sort of f*cked. Any suggestions?

 

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street cheetah

Why not just cut off the string where its over the screw you need and then do ur thang. But don't cut all of the strings off at once unless u want to have to fix the bridge too. Replace one at a time, old with new and I guess while screwing the screws. (Maybe I misunderstood you because I am kind of out of it.)

 

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ZoSo
I've always loved Stevie Ray Vaughn and I love playing his songs. The scales are various forms of the blues scale but they use them in a way to fit their unique style. But I would not say that Vaughn is a white Hendrix. tounge.gif He's way different and unique, man.

yeah, "white Jimi Hendrix" is kind of a bad way of putting it. I was aiming at how he has respected the man and his style and how he has preserved it so well. I mean you dont see Stevie going up there with a massive black fro with Mitch Mitchell and Noel Redding you know? Although that would be cool. Shame on me for saying such things

 

 

*slaps hand*

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh and btw (which one's pink) Im learning Good Times, Bad Times now, its easy, up until the solo. Where Page just kind of explodes.

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Saggy
Why not just cut off the string where its over the screw you need and then do ur thang. But don't cut all of the strings off at once unless u want to have to fix the bridge too. Replace one at a time, old with new and I guess while screwing the screws. (Maybe I misunderstood you because I am kind of out of it.)

 

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I'd have to re-string a new string and tune it every time I wanted to adjust the screw. So, I'd pretty much have to get it exactly right the first time unless I wnated to go through a sh*tload of strings.

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ZoSo

Has anyone ever found a guitar tab to the GTAIII theme? Im looking for one.

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Saggy

Well, I was messing around in that program Gug showed me, and for some inexplicable reason I decided that I wanted to write a bassline. I have no experience with bass at all, so it was mostly just messing around with notes to a rythym that I made up earlier that day. (I have this weird thing where I tap out rythyms with my fingers. Comes in hand for making riffs and such.)

 

 

Well, I had it on standard tuning, and it sounded cool. But, then I remembered how awesomed SOAD's tuning is, and I wanted to mess with it, and I got this:

 

 

F  :----------------------|---------------------|----------------|---------------------------*2|C  :----------------------|---------------------|----------------|---------------------------- ||G  :----------------------|---------------------|----------------|---------------------------- ||C  :0---1-0-3-0-3-1-|0---1-0-4-0-2-1-|0---1-0-5-0-5-1-|0---1-0-5-0-3-1- ||F  :----------------------|-----------------------|--------------------|----------------------|C  :2---3---------------|2---3----------------|----3------2-------|2---3---------------|G  :2---3---------------|2---3----------------|----3------2-------|2---3---------------|C  :0---1-0-3-0-3-1-|0---1-0-4-0-2-1-|0---1-0-5-0-5-1-|0---1-0-5-0-3-1-|F  :----------------------|----------------------|---------------------|----------------------|C  :2---3---------------|2---3---------------|-----3-----2--------|2---3---------------|G  :2---3---------------|2---3---------------|-----3-----2--------|2---3---------------|C  :0---1-0-6-0-4-1-|0---1-0-6-0-6-1-|0---1-0-7-0-5-1-|0---1-0-7-0-7-1-|

 

 

I'm not sure if any of you can actually understand how it would go or anything like that, but it sounds really nifty. I want to play it on my guitar, but I have a couple problems:

 

1. I suck at powerchords.

2. Even though thos specific powerchords aren't that hard, I'm not sure if I'd be able to make the transition well enough.

3. I've only been able to make the ryhtym tapping my fingers, which is a lot harder than playing it.

 

So, if anyone has TabIt and wants to take a listen to the file to see if I should bother learning to play this, tell me and send them.

 

EDIT:

Uhh... It appears it doesn't want to show it un-f*cked-up-like. Anyone know how to fix that?

 

 

Edited by SagaciousKJB

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vacuumo

Good news and bad news. The good news is my guitar teacher got married! The bad is that I couldn't have my lesson, since he was away on his honeymoon.

 

@ Sag - Just make sure to strum only the 3 strings you're covering. Try it until you get a clear sound. Or, better yet, just hold the power chord, but only strum one string at a time. Then you'll be able to see if it sounds clear. Do that with each string your holding the PC on, and eventually you'll get a feel for where to put your fingers and get a clear sound.

 

 

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Saggy
Good news and bad news. The good news is my guitar teacher got married! The bad is that I couldn't have my lesson, since he was away on his honeymoon.

 

@ Sag - Just make sure to strum only the 3 strings you're covering. Try it until you get a clear sound. Or, better yet, just hold the power chord, but only strum one string at a time. Then you'll be able to see if it sounds clear. Do that with each string your holding the PC on, and eventually you'll get a feel for where to put your fingers and get a clear sound.

 

 

The problem is transition and speed. Trying to go speedy on a 3-note powerchord for me sucks beacuse usually, I'll accidentally set one of my fingers on a fret. No telling which one usually, though.

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Mr.Montana
oh and btw (which one's pink) Im learning Good Times, Bad Times now, its easy, up until the solo. Where Page just kind of explodes.

Yeah that's a pretty good song.

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street cheetah
Good news and bad news. The good news is my guitar teacher got married! The bad is that I couldn't have my lesson, since he was away on his honeymoon.

 

@ Sag - Just make sure to strum only the 3 strings you're covering. Try it until you get a clear sound. Or, better yet, just hold the power chord, but only strum one string at a time. Then you'll be able to see if it sounds clear. Do that with each string your holding the PC on, and eventually you'll get a feel for where to put your fingers and get a clear sound.

 

 

The problem is transition and speed. Trying to go speedy on a 3-note powerchord for me sucks beacuse usually, I'll accidentally set one of my fingers on a fret. No telling which one usually, though.

It just takes practice, bro. Practice slow until you get it down and then speed it up a little more and more and more. Do the transition over and over but not too fast. The most important thing is not even speed. I see all of you guys saying you want more speed. The most important thing is the correct rhythm and timing. Learning to play correctly will give you speed and accuracy over time. Keep practicing ya'll.

 

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Saggy
Good news and bad news. The good news is my guitar teacher got married! The bad is that I couldn't have my lesson, since he was away on his honeymoon.

 

@ Sag - Just make sure to strum only the 3 strings you're covering. Try it until you get a clear sound. Or, better yet, just hold the power chord, but only strum one string at a time. Then you'll be able to see if it sounds clear. Do that with each string your holding the PC on, and eventually you'll get a feel for where to put your fingers and get a clear sound.

 

 

The problem is transition and speed. Trying to go speedy on a 3-note powerchord for me sucks beacuse usually, I'll accidentally set one of my fingers on a fret. No telling which one usually, though.

It just takes practice, bro. Practice slow until you get it down and then speed it up a little more and more and more. Do the transition over and over but not too fast. The most important thing is not even speed. I see all of you guys saying you want more speed. The most important thing is the correct rhythm and timing. Learning to play correctly will give you speed and accuracy over time. Keep practicing ya'll.

 

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Yeah, but I need speedy transitions into other notes if I'm going to keep the rythym I want. I don't mean just playing fast, I meant playing fast enough so I'm in rythym.

 

But, yeah, I've been trying to practice, but it doesn't seem like I'm getting any better at it. The best I can do is learn how to play the specific powerchords from songs without f*cking them up, but if I try a brand new set, I'll still mess 'em up. Is that normal or do I just need more practice?

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street cheetah
Yeah I know. You just need more practice. When I change notes and strings I know exactly where my hands are going to go right after the next part. So my shifts are just really fast. How long have you been playing? And do you take lessons? It's kinda hard for me to say because I haven't had problems like this in a while because I've been playing for so long. But good luck and just stay positive.

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vacuumo
Try two note pcs then. Or, just lay one finger over the bottom two notes.

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Lazlowrocks.
Hey guys, I just had my last guitar clas until the summer's over. We played for 10 minutes or so, then went on the computers and watched music videos. Yeh, for the summer, I would like to get a pedal and start playing some Death or something, probably hard, but i'll try.

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street cheetah
Pedals and sound processors are a lot of fun. If you want something cheap but really cool for the value I suggest a Digitech RP100. I've had a lot of fun with that baby, making your own sounds easily and it has a large number of effects to just plug in and play. Good for begginers too. But remember no matter how good your pedals are, your amp still should be sweet if you really want quality sound. smile.gif

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vacuumo

I have a Boss Turbo Distortion 2 pedal. Its pretty fun to mess around with every now and then. Infact, one day my friend and I plugged DS-2 and his Metal Zone pedal into my amp, and it was hella loud. The distortion completely overpowered everything, though.

 

I'm hoping to get either a Flanger, a Phaser, or a Wah(I haven't decided whether I'd get Auto or Manual, though. ). I love the sound they create. I'll look into that Digitech RP100 you mentioned, cheetah.

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street cheetah

All the RPs are pretty good. The 100 is just the least expensive but its really neat. Like the 200 has like a whammy pedal added to it. Pretty neat deals though. I am going to buy a new Boss or Digitech pedal I think soon.

 

PS: I have a new color for all of you who couldn't read my posts well! biggrin.gif

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Saggy

 

Yeah I know. You just need more practice. When I change notes and strings I know exactly where my hands are going to go right after the next part. So my shifts are just really fast. How long have you been playing? And do you take lessons?  It's kinda hard for me to say because I haven't had problems like this in a while because I've been playing for so long. But good luck and just stay positive.

I've been playing for 3 months so far and I've been teaching myself. I haven't really done that as much practice with powerchords as I should be doing, though. In fact, there's a couple of songs that I can play parts of where I actually omit the powerchord part of it and just play the main note.

 

I just don't like playing powerchords because they're different from everything else. I can learn one riff one day, practice it until I've got it down, and the next day tomorrow it's practically second-nature to me. I'm never consistently good with powerchords, though. When I've been practicing for a long while in one session, I'm good at them. The next day, though, I'm just as poor as I was when I began playing the day before. There seems to be no improvement, and that's just frustrating to me because I want to play some of these riffs.

 

I think what I need to find or make myself is some powerchord course. Just have a couple powerchord riffs that increase with difficulty and keep going through that. Maybe finish them in one practice session, and by the time I've practiced that much I should be able to play the song pretty well at that point. It seems like it will be a long process, but I can't really practice that much without improving at all, can I?

 

EDIT

 

I almost forgot, but I figured out a way to ghetto-rig a way to record the playback from TabIt and I recorded the bassline that I showed you guys. I also added some stuff on it.

 

http://fileserv4.soundclick.com/fastg6%5CH...stabassline.mp3

 

Think that has potential as being anything good?

 

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ZoSo

Im supposed to be getting my wah-wah pedals next wednesday. Im quite thrilled about it. I just finished learning "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC (for those of you who dont know). and it was suprisingly easy. I mean it was a couple of chords, a single note or two, an easy solo and then it was over. I learned it in about 2 days.

 

 

 

Im still learning Dream On. That one is probably one of my favorites. Its like one of those songs you'd just sit around a campfire and play.

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Mr.Montana
I've been playing for 3 months so far and I've been teaching myself. I haven't really done that as much practice with powerchords as I should be doing, though. In fact, there's a couple of songs that I can play parts of where I actually omit the powerchord part of it and just play the main note.

Yeah, I'm in about the same position you are. I'm trying to teach myself also. I started on One by Metallica, and the beginning is pretty easy, but after that I blow.

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Timage

I can play the electric guitar that kicks in through the intro to One.

 

I'm trying to learn the outtro to November Rain by Guns N Roses. I'm finding it hard to follow the tab, but making my own bits up after the 19~ 18~ 19b bit seems easier.

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Mr.Montana

Well, I improved so much after 3 hours of nonstop playing. I can now play more of One, more of Welcome Home (Sanitarium), The beginning of Sweet Home Alabama, the beginning of Smoke on the Water, a little bit of Crazy Train, the beginning of Cat Scratch Fever, and of course, the James Bond Theme song tounge2.gif. my parents can't believe how much I have improved in one nite.

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