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ZoSo

Guitars

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street cheetah

 

Hey, I went over to my local guitar and bass shop today to try out this song I'm workin' on on a bass ('cause it sort of sounded like a bassline).  Well, I noticed something about all the fenders they had there:  None of them had 24 frets.  What's up with that?

 

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Just how they chose to make them I guess. Many guitars only have 23 frets. My Fender and one of my peaveys doesn't, but my Peavey EXP does have 24.

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Lazlowrocks.
I saw one bass with no frets, you'd have to be super badass good to play one of those I'm guessing.

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Saggy
I saw one bass with no frets, you'd have to be super badass good to play one of those I'm guessing.

Are you sure you didn't see a cello? lol

 

Yeah, I know what you mean, though. I was watching School of Rock (looked funny at the time) and saw when he told that cello chick to play the bass. I noticed there was no frets on the cello, and I'm like, "Well, how do they know where to pet their finger?"

 

ESLSD, those bases look f*cking sick. But what's up with the weird inlay arrangments on them? I don't think I can even play on anything that's not an inlay every two frets.

 

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Devyl

Just figured I'd drop in here....

 

I've played off & on for a few years and I went & picked up one o' these here: user posted image

 

I got the one on the left smile.gif

 

My next plans? begging & pleading with b.c. rich to make me an acrylic warlock bass in green w/ lit-up inserts...

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Eat_Some_LSD

Actually, they make fretless basses with wooden frets inlaid into the fingerboard, so it's as easy as playing a fretted bass, but it has the smooth, jazzy sound of a fretless. smile.gif

 

@SKJB: Meh, simply for ornamental purposes. *lol* Whenever you decide to buy a $2k+ guitar, you're probably going to stick with it long enough to remember where everything is. wink.gif

 

@Devvyl: Yeah, I remember those...Musician's Friend had some awhile back, but they were colored acrylic. Played one of those Mockingbirds at a guitar shop once, though that acrylic is just waaay too heavy for me. lol.gif

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Lazlowrocks.
Just figured I'd drop in here....

 

I've played off & on for a few years and I went & picked up one o' these here: user posted image

 

I got the one on the left smile.gif

 

My next plans? begging & pleading with b.c. rich to make me an acrylic warlock bass in green w/ lit-up inserts...

Yeah, I got the warlock in black, but I really want that one in the middle. biggrin.gif

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Eat_Some_LSD

Sorry, but that model only comes in 20% acrylic. wink.gif

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Lazlowrocks.
It'll be naked after I'm done with it though.

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Eat_Some_LSD

Yeah, but I bet the stings are wore to crap. cool.gif

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ChibiMAK

I just got a fender mustang it's so hardcore, I'll love it forever inlove.gif

 

maybe I'll get some pics soon

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vacuumo

I heard that they're horribly hard to keep tuned.

 

Chibi - Did you recently start playing or have you been for a while?

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Neoljeol

somethings i learnt about warlocks today

 

1) The bag cases for them suck, don't wear it backpack style.

2) The warlock head part (where the tuners are) chips very easily.

3) The warlock dents easily

 

thats why theres warranties. cool.gif Imma plan to sell it after i trade it in for a new one. Any recommendations? i want a fender ($100-$400) with one of those cool "sunshine" paintjobs. Like the one i posted way back in the guitar topic. Also, i don't really want a stratocaster... too common, but something thats like a stratocaster but anit.

 

thanks

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Mr.Miffusle

Les Claypool uses a non-freted bass, mainly because he is amazing and it gives him more freedom.

 

I'm probably going to go with a peavey starter pack. I don't really want a peavey but it comes with an amp and at $310 it's about the only thing I can afford. Some of the peaveys looked alright though, and considering I've only been playing since February it should be good to keep learning on.

 

If I save during the summer though I should be able to collect about $1300 which I either want to get a Epiphone Les Paul or Gibson ES.

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KillaPenguin

Can't believe I havent noticed this topic till now. My dad makes guitars now i posted a bunch of pictures in the old LM forums but they got wiped from my computer i'll get some up here sometime soon.

 

I started learning to play guitar but then i broke my wrist once the cast was off i had just lost interest. Though sometimes i pick it up and just mess around, right now im learning how to play the saxaphone.

 

My dad gave me his old fender mustang that he bought a yard sale a long time ago. I'll get a picture fo that up on here too.

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ZoSo

sorry I havent been on in so long you guys. We've had company over and Im not allowed on the computer when company is over (except with my girlfriend but I never get on the computer with her over)

 

Anyway, there was a "Guitar Center Memorial Day Sale" and there was a huge blow off on pretty much everything. Wah wah pedals, distortion boxes, everything. They had this American Series Fender Bass up there which was running at about $349.99 (american) and it was cut down to something notorious like $275 or $250. It was awesome. Sadly I didnt have the money to buy it even on a great sale. But sooner or later I will be recieving a bass. My contact up in Meridian (a city a good distance from Boise) is getting rid of his CUSTOM GUITAR collection and he is thinking about giving me his Les Paul and his 50's series Fender Stratocaster. But what I really REALLY want is his G&L Comanche. Its kind of a blue pearloid body with a white pickguard. Beautiful. We've got a picture somewhere.

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Saggy

Okay, well, I've been playing a lot recently. Like, all day everyday. I think I've improved quite a bit. The only real thing I need to work on now is powerchords, but a week's worth of practice should get them down easily.

 

What I'm wondering is when I should start looking into the inner-workings of music and studying different musical scales. I was just looking up the tab to Sunshine of Your Love, and it mentions how it was written in the Blues Minor Pentagonic scale in the key of D.

 

Now, I sort of have an idea of what that means, 'cause I did a bit of styding before I started playing, but really I coudln't even begin to explain it to anyone.

 

But, basically, I just want to know something about the scales. I know that a lot of solos are written in certain scales, but I was wondering about riffs. I guess I'm sort of asking about how all the scales and keys work their way into the actual writing of musical stuff on guitar.

 

Oh, yeah, I think I remember about telling you guys about my friend who wanted to trade his Ibanez for my ESP.

 

Well, My ESP is an LTD Viper-50, and his Ibanez is a RG321. According to one of my friends (the one that knows the most about guitars), his is better than mine. A lot better. Should I rip him off? lol

 

My guitar's Specs:

Construction: Bolt-on

Scale: 24.75”

Body: Agathis

Neck/Fretboard: Maple/rosewood

Inlays: Dots w/model name at 12th fret

Pickups: ESP LH-100 set

Electronics: Volume, tone, 3-way toggle

Hardware: Black

Bridge: Tune-o-matic w/stop tailpiece

Binding: None

Frets: 24 XJ

Colors: BLK, TTM

 

His guitars Specs:

Wizard II neck

Maple Neck Material

Basswood Body

24/Jumbo frets

Bound Rosewood Finger Board

Fixed bridge

PSND1 (H) Neck PU

PSND2 (H) Bridge PU

Pearl Dot Inlay

CK : Hardware Color

 

 

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Lazlowrocks.
Just got back from lessons, I learned some of Crazy Train. I realised I hate hammer offs. I can handle ons, but not offs.

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Mr.Miffusle

RG aren't that great Sag, but it's better than what you have. I'd deffinitly go for it. Can't help you out with rest. I haven't really learned anything about scales and whatever. Power chords are easy by the way, surprised you haven't come by them before. 50% of Nirvanas songs are power chords. tounge.gif

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vacuumo
Just got back from lessons, I learned some of Crazy Train. I realised I hate hammer offs. I can handle ons, but not offs.

I learned Purple Haze, The Man Who sold The World, and Hey Joe last time. Next lesson I SHOULD get Stone Free. Hoe long've you been playing, man? I started 6 months ago.

 

@Miff - Are you talking about the intro or the whole song?

 

 

@Sag - Look into spider scales. They're good for coordination and finger placement. For power chords, just look up any Nirvana song, as Miff said, since they're mostly power chord. I'd recommend In Bloom.

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Mr.Miffusle
@Miff - Are you talking about the intro or the whole song?

 

Any part really. Just alot of Nirvana songs are built with power chords.

 

Got some pics of my my Norman.

 

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As you can see, it's got alot of wear to it. But I think it's alright considering it's been sitting in my basement for the past 14 years.

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Saggy

I've ran into powerchords before, I just haven't played a lot of stuff that utilized them because I sucked at them. lol

 

@laslow

What are hammer offs?

 

 

And basically what I was asking is how do you actually apply the knowledge of scales, keys, etc. to writing stuff for your guitar. That's the only part I don't get about it.

 

The only real powerchorded song I suck at and can't play is Smoke on the Water. I can't play Smells LIke Teen Spirit 'cause I can't figure out the rythym and how to fit those fret mutes in.

 

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Guglielminpietro
I've ran into powerchords before, I just haven't played a lot of stuff that utilized them because I sucked at them. lol

 

@laslow

What are hammer offs?

 

 

And basically what I was asking is how do you actually apply the knowledge of scales, keys, etc. to writing stuff for your guitar. That's the only part I don't get about it.

 

The only real powerchorded song I suck at and can't play is Smoke on the Water. I can't play Smells LIke Teen Spirit 'cause I can't figure out the rythym and how to fit those fret mutes in.

 

You should download TabIt. Whenever I can't figure out the rhythm to a song (usually with Tool songs, and their f*cked up time sigs), I just type the notes into TabIt, and rearrange them until it sounds right. TabIt is a program that you can type tabs into a play them back you see. It's a good program, I use it all the time.

 

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Lazlowrocks.
Hoe long've you been playing, man? I started 6 months ago.

I started around January or late December.

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Eat_Some_LSD

Guitar Pro rocks...they actually have millions of tabs on MySongBook.com for it. You can enter tab and have it play it back, and even export it to MIDI to import into FruityLoops so you can apply Soundfonts and synths to it. wink.gif

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Saggy

Hey, Gug, how do I get that program to actually play the effects? It doesn't play bends, hammer ons... Anything.

 

Do I need full version?

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Lazlowrocks.
Oh yeah, and hammer-offs are just the opposite of hammerons.

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ZoSo
Just got back from lessons, I learned some of Crazy Train. I realised I hate hammer offs. I can handle ons, but not offs.

in the realistic world... how could you "hammer off" something? lol. I can see the thought of hammering it to pieces to get something off but I call them "pull offs". I dont like pull offs too much either though. My favorite technique is sliding. But the song Im learning now is "The Ocean". By Led Zeppelin for those of you who dont know (and god forbid if there is any). Apart from that Im starting to make my own songs. Its working pretty good. I just need to put some blues into them. Cause Im a blues kind of guy.

 

Speaking of scales, Im working on the patterns of the G major. Coming along pretty nice, I can burn through the first 3.

 

I went to the holy grail of guitars again (guitar center) and there was this kid there who looked like he really knew what he was doing ya know? I mean he picked up a Telecastor and just started wailing on it and then he put that up, walked over to the basses and killed that too. Then he walked back into the acoustic room and sat on a stool in the corner and plucked a song I didnt recognize but it sounded very sublime (not the band, the abstract feeling).

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Guglielminpietro
Hey, Gug, how do I get that program to actually play the effects? It doesn't play bends, hammer ons... Anything.

 

Do I need full version?

Erm, no it doesn't do bends. And it doesn't do hammer ons, it just plays the 2 notes seperately.

 

But hey, you got for free, don't expect too much. lol

 

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Saggy

Ermmm

 

 

Uhh

 

 

What the f*ck?

 

 

-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-----0h|4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h|4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|

 

 

That's part of the beginning to Thunderstruck. But, ummm... I'm confused. How do you do a hammer-on on an open string? Or am I supposed to play it open, hammer on the 4th, pull off the 4th, play open, hammer on the 7th, pull off the 7th, and then repeat with the 4th?

 

And, if so, I believe Angus Young is on crack.

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Guglielminpietro

 

Ermmm

 

 

Uhh

 

 

What the f*ck?

 

 

-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-----0h|4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h|4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h4p0h7p0h|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------|--------------------------------|--------------------------------|

 

 

That's part of the beginning to Thunderstruck.  But, ummm...  I'm confused.  How do you do a hammer-on on an open string?  Or am I supposed to play it open, hammer on the 4th, pull off the 4th, play open, hammer on the 7th, pull off the 7th, and then repeat with the 4th?

 

And, if so, I believe Angus Young is on crack.

It's slightly simpler than that - you don't need to play the open string with your pick in between each one. Just hammer 4th fret and pull off, hammer 7th fret and pull off, etc. So your not using your pick hand at all, apart from once on the very first open note. If you were to do it how you said, it would read 0h4p0-0h7p0-0h4p0 etc.

 

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