The thread that started it all

[X-fix]

I have add: if you are busted on portland (etc) you will spawn at the portland police station.

I you wasted on portland (etc) you will spawn at that hostpital.

 

I gonna update the file i have forgot somthing... if you wil busted at the airport you will spawn on the airport i gonna fix that now.

 

Edit: My Webpage

Edited February 23, 2004 by X-fix

[Blunted1]

Its too obvious for you not to have thought of Im sure, but remove the first three colors?

 

You want to know what is really strange? I have a working cartel cruiser that is never black and always blue.... but when I place it over your black one there is no difference, it will still be black occcasionally.

 

gtaGaming.com has the cartel cruiser for VC, complete with proper carcols, handling, and default.ide..... but installing that over your black cartel, doesnt change the problem

 

Im confused but i will keep at it....

[Geqxon]

 

Is that meant to be the thug from GTA3?

If so, you need to make sure you replace one of the street wannabes with it. Documenting which model is getting the skin and linking to the skin would be helpful.

Looking at that picture, I just know it sucks. But there aren't many correct people in vice The vice people are just too skinny

 

I just took bfyst.dff (vice) and criminal01.txd (gtaIII), photoshoped them,, and inserted them as wymcr.dff (vice) and wymcr.txd (vice), so It replaces the guy wich is always followed by cops And steals your nice pcj600 like above

Edited February 23, 2004 by Geqxon

[X-fix]

I just took bfyst.dff (vice) and criminal01.txd (gtaIII), photoshoped them,, and inserted them as wymcr.dff (vice) and wymcr.txd (vice), so It replaces the guy wich is always followed by cops And steals your nice pcj600 like above

I can't find the files in mine gta3.img

[Demarest]

That give me an idea...

Trust me on this. I'm already looking into it

[Demarest]

I just took bfyst.dff (vice) and criminal01.txd (gtaIII), photoshoped them,, and inserted them as wymcr.dff (vice) and wymcr.txd (vice), so It replaces the guy wich is always followed by cops   And steals your nice pcj600 like above

I can't find the files in mine gta3.img

Do you have both games? He mentioned which game each file was from.

 

@Geqxon: VCers aren't going to have poofy winter coats. You've done the best in terms of that particular ped. So until a better one comes along or we get some sort of ped conversion going on, yours is the one. So go ahead and share the files here.

[X-fix]

yes i have

 

So i must search for bfyst.dff.... he can't find that one (i am an noob for always)

[Demarest]

@Blunted1: He made a post that really didn't add to the thread and you responded. I wanted to delete his, but then yours wouldn't make sense. I didn't want to delete both because you didn't deserve to have your post deleted as you were just replying to the situation. Most times I get the impulse to delete, I try to think of a reason not to as it shouldn't have to be used.

 

At any rate, Blunted1 is right. The SCM is one thing I would like to do alone. The reason being is that first off, there is no easy way to just take a piece of software, point it at the 2 SCMs and say "convert". So it HAS to be done manually. Since the SCM itself is hex, but we write it in a text editor where we can understand it, the source code doubles as notes. The SCM has to be updated in modules for the most part, as you cannot just add a few lines and call it a day. You have to convert over entire threads and entire missions at a time. That's a LOT of conversion to do in one sitting.

 

When I added the insane stunt calclations, it didn't take me long at all. It's because I have a few tools here and configured properly that help me to do some aspects of the conversion easier and faster. So the only reason we would need an additional coder is if I wasn't holding up my end. I haven't been, but mostly for external reasons like the GXT. Still, there are things I probably could do and those are coming within the next few days hopefully. My corpse is awakening and using such things as this to pass the time, so get ready.

 

Having said all that, there are certain things I WOULD like to invite the public into in terms of coding. There are things like the crusher, IE Garages, Boullion garage, etc that are hard-coded in GTA3. Because they are not in VC, we will have to simulate them as best we can. I already have ideas as to how they can be done, but since that part of it is not conversion, it's something that others could write as modules and offer. May the best offering "win" and be included. For those willing to take up such a project, I only ask that you provide me with the source code so I can add it to the "master source code" and integrate it appropriately.

 

For any prospective coder that does not necessarily feel like contributing in that manner, I invite you to come up with other things that will need to be simulated instead of converted. Thank you.

[Geqxon]

I just took bfyst.dff (vice) and criminal01.txd (gtaIII), photoshoped them,, and inserted them as wymcr.dff (vice) and wymcr.txd (vice), so It replaces the guy wich is always followed by cops   And steals your nice pcj600 like above

I can't find the files in mine gta3.img

Do you have both games? He mentioned which game each file was from.

 

@Geqxon: VCers aren't going to have poofy winter coats. You've done the best in terms of that particular ped. So until a better one comes along or we get some sort of ped conversion going on, yours is the one. So go ahead and share the files here.

Just click on the picture Demarest Stupid me forgot to mention

 

But cant we cheat with the deepfriedmarsbars code to make him look "fat"? Or to make all look "fat"?

[X-fix]

I get it so.. in you next release YOU have added the hostpital spawn points ??

[Monitor57]

are you making any new "Gta3 style" bikes?

 

@ Knux i luv the Packer

[Blunted1]

Makes perfect sense to me. Delete his posts, delete my posts that answer him, and delete this post too if you like.

 

Organization is more valuable than those posts that are useless now.

Keep your last post explaining exactly what you want and how you want people to contribute to mission codeing.

 

 

Deletion sprees are very important in keeping the forum clean, just dont delete anything that contains usefull information.

There are a number of useless threads that could be deleted too.

The first that pops to mind is my thread entitled "if i cant post anywhere else"

it has nothing in it and is a waste of space.

 

You are doing a great job Dem

 

[EDIT]

@X-bit,

Dem will take care of the spawning, it may not be in his next release but he is well aware of it and will complete it as soon as he is able to.

He does have a LOT on his plate with everything else going on, but I am sure if it is not contained in the next release he makes, it will be very soon after.

Edited February 23, 2004 by Blunted1

[JamesSHF]

Does anybody know if we are limited in weapons slots? Could we simply make the slot number in weapons.dat additional slots and just scroll to them?

I'm not sure, I'll try it in a bit.

I'm sure we could add/move weapons to slot 9 if needed, because that only contains the camera which I don't remember GTAIII having.

Slot 0, iirc, only contains the Brass Knuckles, so that may be useable too.

[JamesSHF]

Beautiful That way we still have the added bonus of a minigun and other assorted weapons, but no way to use them without cheats so a normal game is not affected by it.

Thats perfect

 

I'm sure the nightstick will have to go considering the method of removal so far, but that can be put back by replaceing the weapons.dat line which is very easy

Yes, the weapons are still there, and still useable.

A lot of the weapons won't be spawned anywhere in the game (as has been said) and can be left alone anyway, it's really only the night-stick that needs editing this way.

[Demarest]

For this reason, maybe I can rearrange the official weapons replacements to coincide with law enforcement and such. That way we could keep more VC weapons in. We'd have to do some model/stat/etc swapping, but mostly straightforward. Anybody willing to take the initiative? It's bed time for me.

[Demarest]

Does anybody know if we are limited in weapons slots? Could we simply make the slot number in weapons.dat additional slots and just scroll to them?

I'm not sure, I'll try it in a bit.

I'm sure we could add/move weapons to slot 9 if needed, because that only contains the camera which I don't remember GTAIII having.

Slot 0, iirc, only contains the Brass Knuckles, so that may be useable too.

There's a couple problems with this though. For one, GTA3 DID use the detonator. And VC's engine figures slot 0 as the fist anyways. So if we used it, we'd simultanesously make it to where the player couldn't choose fist if they wanted.

[Demarest]

Expect more activity from me as I'm sort of in the mood. Hope that doesn't change.

 

As for deletions. Not necessary. While organization is key, so is the publicness of this mod.

 

@X-fix: I'm on it. No need to worry. But you should keep your posts here as on-topic and productive as possible.

[Demarest]

Redoing the Packer wasn't necessary, but hey, if you're willing to... It looks great.

 

I think the bikes and helis already look modern enough.

[Demarest]

Unfortunately, all cheats are hard code. Some can be simulated, but ther is no way for the code to attenuate that feature.

[JamesSHF]

For this reason, maybe I can rearrange the official weapons replacements to coincide with law enforcement and such. That way we could keep more VC weapons in. We'd have to do some model/stat/etc swapping, but mostly straightforward. Anybody willing to take the initiative? It's bed time for me.

I would, but I'm not completely sure what weapons the law enforcement use.

Maybe I'll go annoy them in a minute and find out .

[JamesSHF]

Oh yeah, I forgot the Detonator used slot 9 too.

As I said, I'll play with it.

[Blunted1]

I dunno, after looking at the new packer I'd be more open to suggestions like Monitor57's

I'd say let anyone who is willing model a new bike or heli to replace the VC ones and look more gta3 authentic (even though there were none)

 

If anyone makes one post it in the unofficial mods section for now,

The end decision lies with Demarest so it may be pointless, but if I see one that I personally like enough I will throw it into my unofficial installer.... and who knows maybe it will reach the "Official Beta" if it shocks dDemarest into changeing his mind

[AssKicR]

Well we still have the VCPD Police Chopper... Whould be nice if ya made a LCPD version

 

VCPD Heli: http://www.sharexperiences.com/picforum//d...e.php?pos=-8826

[Knaxia]

something like this?

 

 

[AssKicR]

Hell yeah

 

I'm in luv

 

Nice Heli..

 

gimme gimme

 

 

EDIT: stupid me.... it is already released found it in the official mod thread

Edited February 23, 2004 by AssKicR

[AssKicR]

OMG it looks sooooooo Niiiiiiiice now

http://www.sharexperiences.com/picforum//d...e.php?pos=-8833

Edited February 23, 2004 by AssKicR

[MajorOutage]

HOWEVER, I think modifying whatever needs modified to restore the game boundaries to those similar to GTA3 should be acquired by any means necessary.

Speaking of that...

 

Is moving the city still out of the question? Even given the proper tools? ^-^

That's what Marcel is working on: tools to move things.

 

How far exactly does the city need to be moved again?

[MajorOutage]

I can't for the life of me get the chase chopper (the one that chases you) to turn black. No matter what I do, it's still green!

 

I did manage to change the badges, though.

[JamesSHF]

Following on from the last couple of posts in the GRAPHICS thread (I feel it's more relevant here)....

The law enforcement uses the following weapons...

 

Type - GTAIII - Vice CityCops - Colt45 - Colt45FBI - AK47 - MP5Swat - Uzi/C45 - Uzi           UnderCover - N/A - UziArmy - M16/Gren - M4

 

 

So, based on that, I think the best weapon replacement list is:

 

GTAIII -> Vice CityUnarmed -> UnarmedColt45 -> Colt45Uzi -> UziShotgun -> ShotgunAK47 -> MP5M16 -> M60RocketLauncher -> RocketLauncherFlamethrower -> FlamethrowerGrenade -> GrenadeMolotov -> MolotovBaseballBat -> BaseballBatSniperRifle -> SniperRifleDetonator -> Detonator

 

These fit with the law enforcement, and all use the same models with the exception of 2.

If anyone has alternate ideas, then say but I think this works well.

I've done a weapons.dat to match this, and tested most of the weapons [the one's i could find easily] and they're fine and seem to work quite well.

Edited February 23, 2004 by JamesSHF

[Demarest]

There is a problem with your list. In GTA3, SWAT carried both colt45 and uzi and the army carried both m16 and grenades. I'm not terribly interested in whether or not we can preserve the dual weapons, especially in the case of the grenades that they never used even though they dropped them. However, it looks to me as if the m16 would be a better replacement for the M4 than the M60.