The thread that started it all

[MajorOutage]

Why is the Vice Cheetah being replaced with the Enforcer now? The detective's car was much more fitting.

[Ben]

@Craig - Not at all . We figured that you'd probably want a bit of break or some time out, so we thought we'd keep track of everything in the meantime - I was planning to just keep running the forum, and collect any updates for you and package them up until you are ready to come back. We didn't want you worrying about a video game so we were going to fill in temporarily. All decisions regarding the mod would be put off until you were ready to return. We just thought it'd be the least we could do to help you out .

 

@Dem - I think you might have misinterpretted Alex's meaning. This was only meant to be temporary.

 

 

The next few days are going to be even tougher though. So don't expect to see me around here too much. But remember that I'll be okay. Life will go on for the rest of us.

We figured that he might be away for a few weeks, so we just covered all the aspects of the mod. This wasn't meant to be some sort of mutiny - I'd never even consider that. As far as I'm concerned, Craig will always be leader, and personally, I can't seem relinquishing that. Ever.

 

No decisions reserved for the leader would've been made (such as those regarding gameplay) - we were in a way trying to ensure that Craig wasn't burdened with trivial LC matters. But it seems that he isn't going anywhere, even temporarily .

 

In hindsight though, something probably should've been said, but I just figured that Craig wouldn't be online. That's my fault - sorry.

[Ben]

Done .

[Craig Kostelecky]

We'll just call this one big misunderstanding and no one will think badly of anyone.

[Craig Kostelecky]

That decision was made because with it being the enforcer, it's really no different than it was in GTA3. They still show up at 3+ stars and the SWAT guys still get out of the van and shoot you with uzis. Besides not being able to see the sirens flash, the cars are identical.

[Ben]

Here is where you can grab the most-up-to-date (and final, hopefully) american.gxt.

 

Changes from the previous version include LC-specific credits, and irrelevant stat names removed (Hammer is working on a launcher update that will remove the values from the stats page as well, and also hopefully make the saved stats.txt and stats.html relevant to LC rather than VC) .

 

Also, there is a version in the installer topic (which was originally made by Konstantinos) that leaves the VC radio station names intact - CTM is going to attempt to add this as an option for the next installer. I've also changed the credits for the radio stations back to the VC values for this gxt as well, for maximum authenticity . The package also includes a modified fronten2.txd file for the audio menu (which gives you the VC radio icons).

[Ben]

Checklist updated .

 

@Craig - I've changed the credits update fix from you having a copy to you needing to get one. There's a download link there - I've also updated the download link to Kon's VC radio station gxt and txd fix, so you'll need a copy of that too .

 

Oh, and I added Hammer's second launcher update (to remove irrelevant stats values) .

[GTAThomas]

Although it would be a lot better to see the sirens, but that would need an .exe hack. Which, isn't really totally legal...

Although I wonder, with the Cheetah replacing the Enforcer, can people enter the back of the cheetah like the SWAT guys do with the Enforcer? Like useing the 'fannymagnet' cheatcode so peds follow you and get into cars. Because I think there is another thing with the Cartel Cruiser replacing the SandKing, the sandking has 2 doors, while the CC has 4.

[Ben]

I don't think that getting the cars to work with cheats is a high priority - as long as they do the job intended for normal gameplay, that's all that really matters.

 

And as far as I'm aware, exe hacking is still legal - we (well, by "we" I mean Hammer) don't actually modify the exe at all - that's what the launcher is for . It's all pretty technical, but the exe hacking done in LC is all legal you'd find .

 

Besides which, ideally we'd like to modify the cheat codes - key combinations and resulting "actions".

[Konstantinos]

Great! I can finally start working on a proper Czech language pack. Also, thanks for taking care of the VC radio version for me, ben.

[Ben]

No probs .

 

It'd be good if all the other versions could be updated too, but no-one really reads the credits anyhow, so it's not too important. More of a minor issue of tidyness .

[Craig Kostelecky]

You know Ben, I didn't really think about this until now, but you don't really need to blank out the stats. Because if Hammer does disable them in the exe, they wouldn't show up anyway. But if he doesn't then we may see a blank text with a stat we cannot get rid of. It would probably look better if we left the old stat in there. What do you think?

[Ben]

Well, originally, I thought I could just remove them from the gxt. Which worked (sort of !) - but now we're left with a situation like you describe - a value but no name. The values however, never change, as LC has no effect on them.

 

If Hammer has any problems, I can easily put them back in (I've got a gxt from directly before I removed the stats). If you want me to upload it, it'll be no trouble .

[Ben]

Nevermind, I fixed both gxts and reuploaded them to the same address .

[Ben]

Hammer, after refining the gxt, I've added the stats values back in seeing as you can disable them completely through the exe - if you want the most up-to-date gxt, you can grab it here.

 

However, as I had to re-write several strings, I should be able to just tell you which to disable (if it's that easy). The one's that aren't used in LC are:

1. DISTGOL
2. DISTGOM
3. PROPOWN
4. STFT_04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16
5. STFT_21, 22, 23
6. STPR_1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
7. ST_BRK
8. ST_FASH
9. ST_ICEC
10. ST_LOAN
11. ST_MOVI
12. ST_PHOT
13. ST_PROP
14. ST_STOR
15. ST_WEAP
16. TOP_SHO

Not all of these appear by default - 1, 2, 3, 8, 13, 14, and 15 definitely do. As for the STFT's, I'm not sure - I don't think so (I think they're all the best times for car races, rc races, etc.). And the STPR's are the property names for the stats, which don't appear by default.

 

1 and 2 are golf cart distances

3 are all race times

4 - more race times

5 - property names in stats

6 - bloodring kills

7 - "ice cream" sold

8 - visits from loan sharks

9 - movie stunts

10 - photos taken

11 - property budget

12 - stores knocked off

13 - weapons budget

14 - top shooting range score

 

Anything else you need to know, just PM me .

[ranger135xp]

Hi. I'm new to posting, but I am experienced at modding. so I would like to know how to insert the peds into my game without downloading a new version. I need to know which files to change in order to insert new peds like the LC gangs. I'm using beta 1 because the replay works for my stunting, but I would like to make my version a little more complete by fixing it myself. So could some1 plz help me and tell me how to insert the LC gand peds in place of the VC gang ped?

 

EDIT by Ben - Moved from PEDs to General LC Chat. Please continue discussion on this here, if required.

Edited April 16, 2006 by benisablink182fan

[Ben]

 

Hi. I'm new to posting, but I am experienced at modding. so I would like to know how to insert the peds into my game without downloading a new version. I need to know which files to change in order to insert new peds like the LC gangs. I'm using beta 1 because the replay works for my stunting, but I would like to make my version a little more complete by fixing it myself. So could some1 plz help me and tell me how to insert the LC gand peds in place of the VC gang ped?

That might be a little difficult now because the img has been completely recompiled with GTA3 names (instead of VC ones).

 

An older version - v5b I think, should have the files you need with the correct names, but I'm not sure exactly what they are as I don't have it installed at the moment. Craig should be able to tell you though.

 

EDIT - moved a PED specific section back to the PEDs topic .

Edited April 16, 2006 by benisablink182fan

[ranger135xp]

I know the img names are different, but i would like to know what the .dff and .txd file names are for the VC gang peds in the img file. then i can replace them with the new GTA III gang peds (with changing their file names of course). But i still need to know what the names are for the VC gang peds in order to replace them. and i don't care at this point about their animations being correct. I would download the beta v5 but the replay doesn't work for my stunting needs. plz tell me the VC gang peds' file names in the img.

[Craig Kostelecky]

In v5 and older, the gang names are the same as Vice City. In v6 and later, they are named like they were in GTA3. Specifically they are named gang01 to gang14 (dff and txt for each obviously).

[Ben]

But he'd still need to grab the files off someone. I might post a link later if no-one else has, but I can't be bothered right now (I'm going out soon) .

[ranger135xp]

what are the gang names in VC then because i can't find them in the IMG file. I tried lookin for cubans, hatians, pigs, etc. but I can't find their location. If some1 can give me the names, i can change the file names and replace them.

EX: cuban.dff and .txd, I would change gang04.dff to cuban.dff and replace the old 1.

 

all i need is their VC file names. i would appreciate it if some1 can plz give me those.

 

EDIT::

 

Also, does any1 know what files I can add to my LC beta 1 so that i get the new peds, cars, weps, and stuff without updating the whole version so the replay still works? and does this require replacement of the main.scm file? cuz i really don't wanna replace that since the whole city is open and it's like 100% completion. ok, thanx

Edited April 15, 2006 by ranger135xp

[MegaVovaN]

Let's raise this topic once again

 

I just made my first CSS-based website, and it looks neat to me (check it out at megavovan.com) so I MIGHT wanna do a website for LC

 

I don't pretend that is should be official - just some "front end" to my LC file database, or, more correctly, I found a good topic to make my 2nd website on

 

 

There won't be any Flash on the pages, because I don't know how to make Flash.

 

What I need is page texts - like this one:

 

 

Tech: 9

Quality: 7

FunFactor: 9

Stability: 6

Creativity: 7

 

Overall Rating: 7.6

 

Description:

This is the installer for Grand Theft Auto: LIberty City. This is one hell of a mod for Vice City that places the streets from Grand Theft Auto III right into your Vice City game? Well what does this mean, you ask...

 

Helicopters, Planes, Bikes, all the enhancements you found in Vice City, inside the GTA III world. Ever wanted to attack Marco's Bistro from an Apache helicopter? This is the mod for you! Now you can fly, die and ultimately have a whole new barrel of fun in the Grand Theft Auto III world!

 

The catch... ah well. Theres always a catch. You need Grand Theft Auto III to use this modification correctly. If you DO have GTA III, this is one of the best VC conversions out there. If you DONT have GTA III for PC, then, what are you doing without it?! Go to the store, now! Then download this great file

 

(source)

 

 

Also, some awesome screenshots would be totally fantastic. I intend to make a gallery of them...

 

Post the texts here, screenshots in screenshot topic (but let me know if I can use them!) or PM me, or e-mail, whatever. The author of text(s) and screenshot(s) will be be given credits.

 

 

Cheers!

[Ben]

I think you're going about this the wrong way - so much has changed since beta1. You could use all of the v5b files I'd imagine since they were not renamed as far as I know, but you'd have to check that with Craig - everything should be replaceable except for the files in your main LC folder (gta-lc.exe, gta-lc.ini, etc.), and the main.scm/main.scm.txt. But I'd suggest making a back-up copy of your LC folder first though.

 

The replay function is half-fixed - hopefully, Hammer will be able to figure out how to fix it completely at some stage.

 

Or, another option is to just use FRAPS for your stunting vids.

 

Not sure what the VC gangs are called - sorry .

[Craig Kostelecky]

You can find the gang names in the default.ide file. Simply open it up with Notepad and scroll down until you see this:

 

#gang peds83, CBa, CBa, GANG1, STAT_GANG1, man, 0, null, 1,484, CBb, CBb, GANG1, STAT_GANG1, gang1, 0, null, 1,485, HNa, HNa, GANG2, STAT_GANG2, gang1, 0, null, 8,686, HNb, HNb, GANG2, STAT_GANG2, gang1, 0, null, 8,687, SGa, SGa, GANG3, STAT_GANG3, gang2, 0, null, 0,788, SGb, SGb, GANG3, STAT_GANG3, gang2, 0, null, 0,789, CLa, CLa, GANG4, STAT_GANG4, gang1, 0, null, 6,390, CLb, CLb, GANG4, STAT_GANG4, gang2, 0, null, 6,391, GDa, GDa, GANG5, STAT_GANG5, gang1, 0, null, 2,692, GDb, GDb, GANG5, STAT_GANG5, man, 0, null, 2,693, BKa, BKa, GANG6, STAT_GANG6, gang2, 0, null, 4,794, BKb, BKb, GANG6, STAT_GANG6, gang1, 0, null, 4,795, PGa, PGa, GANG7, STAT_GANG7, gang1, 0, null, 5,696, PGb, PGb, GANG7, STAT_GANG7, gang2, 0, null, 5,6

 

But of course, since I just posted what's there you don't need to look yourself. The actual gang names are the 2nd and 3rd parameters of each line. So look for CBa.dff, CBa.txd, CBb.dff, etc.

[GTAThomas]

This could be a wonderful chance for me to get back into the screenshot scene...

I like your idea, almost every other mod that has a forum on GTAF has it's own website, why souldn't LC?

I can get some neat screens if you like (6x AA 1024x768 res).

EDIT- Here are my favorite from the ScreenShots tread.

*PLACES TO SEE IN PORTLAND*

•MARCO'S BISTRO

•EASY CREDIT AUTOS

•SEX CLUB 7

•CIPRIANI'S RISTORANTE

Be Back Later For Some Staunten Screens

 

HERE ARE MY PICTURES

 

1 - View of Staunten and SSV

2 - The Front of The Gentleman's Club

3 - The Statue Found on SSV, I Removed The Cone for My LC

4 - The Monument In Belleville Park

5 - The Side of The Callahan Bridge

6 - The Glass Sculpture Near The Casino

7 - Claude driving Banshee near dam

8 - View of the Liberty Campus

9 - Front of Asuka's Condo

Here Is The Banshee ScreenShot:

EDIT2- Here are the good pics I was looking for:

Here Are Some Screens Showing Staunton

• STAUNTON 1

• STAUNTON 2

• STAUNTEN 3

• STUANTON 4

• STAUNTON 5

• STAUNTON 6

• STAUNTON 7

• STAUNTON 8

Here Are Some Screens Showing SSV

• SSV 1

• SSV 2

• SSV 3

• SSV 4

• SSV 5

• SSV 6

• SSV 7

• SSV 8

Here Are Some Screens Showing Portland

• PORTLAND 1

• PORTLAND 2

• PORTLAND 3

• PORTLAND 4

• PORTLAND 5

• PORTLAND 6

• PORTLAND 7

• PORTLAND 8

I'm really excited about taking screens again, now that they have a cause. WOOHOO! I have a good idea...

Edited April 16, 2006 by GTA_Thomas

[Ben]

I've been doing some testing for AK-73's refined Claude model, and it's coming along pretty good. There's a few minor issues, especially with his neck, which over-extends.

 

But, due to him being shorter and broader across the shoulders than the Tommy-sized Claude, he looks a bit different on bikes. Here is where you can download a short 1min vid of the new Claude riding on a PCJ (~3MB). It's encoded with DivX so you'll need it to play the avi.

 

I personally don't think there's anything wrong with it - if anyone has any concerns with the way Claude now looks on the bike, please post here and let us know so we can refine it if necessary. I haven't tested on an Angel/Freeway, Sanchez or Faggio yet, but when AK-73 has fixed the issues I've noted for him, I can test it then (hopefully there won't be any).

 

Also, as you will have noticed, I've cleaned this topic up a bit - culled posts, changed title/description, etc. However, Choofy now has editing priveleges for the first post, primarily due to inactivity from --Cole-- (although I understand Choofy hasn't exactly been heaps active recently either !). The list in the first post will need updating too - I can do it, but I need to know what to change .

[Ben]

I've updated the first post of this topic after going through and compiling a full list of features. If I've missed any, post here and let me know.

[Ben]

I'm in the process of completing a forum tidy-up - basically, seeing as though the general topics are all up-to-date, I figured that there might be some stuff in the modding topics to clean up.

 

So far, I've been through the PEDs topic - changed the title/description, culled pointless posts, and Choofy now has editing priveleges for the first post (due to inactivity from --Cole--) - note that the topic url is still the same though. Also note that the discussion relating to getting the converted gangs into beta 1 has been moved here, and further discussion should stay here.

 

I've also taken a look through the launcher topic - it's in fairly good order, and it's easy for Hammer to see what the latest is. I removed one post of mine that's redundant now.

 

The language packs topic isn't really in need of a cull, but it could do with an update. Craig, I think you have all the files in your FINALGXT package, but your server's down at the moment so I can't download it to check. I've left a note in the first post though, so would you be able to update that package (with my final gxt and any others that you are missing that are available) and then update the first post at some stage please?

 

I've also gone through the installer topic and made a list of features for the new installer in the first post for CTM to have easy reference to. I combined a few posts with useful information so there only has to be one link, and I removed a couple of posts.

 

Oh, and I made a very minor update to the checklist as well.

 

Still to go is Choofy's model fixes topic, the COL topic, vehicles (although I don't think this needs much work), graphics (not much work), audio (not much work). And that's about it I think - basically I'm just trying to compile all the relevant information and put it in the first post for easy reference. I should have that done over the next few days .

 

EDIT - I also checked out the Rules/Directory topic, but everything there is up-to-date .

Edited April 16, 2006 by benisablink182fan

[[UTS]Blaze]

I installed GTA LC to a copy of "GTA Vice City" it was clean , but when I load GTA LC up after the intro it says "please insert the GTA Vice City CD" But its already in , the "play" vice city disc , Ive tried both discs and still not workin sad.gif , any help?

[MegaVovaN]

GTA_Thomas - Fantastic!

 

I still think how exactly to organize site, how to make it visually appealing and where balance will be: between dial-up compatibility but less eye candies or lots of eyecandies but (almost) unacessible to dial-up...