The thread that started it all

[nicholas86]

i think this should do, cause the entire thing is too much

 

 

Exception at address:	0x6DEEAC11Last opcode executed:	0001 waitIn thread:            trainRegisters -----------------------------------------------------EAX: 0xBD70F1D0	EBX: 0x062405E0	ECX: 0x00000000	EDX: 0x00000000ESI: 0x00000001	EDI: 0x0015B300	EBP: 0x0012F9A8	ESP: 0x0012F860EFLAGS: 1000010000001010000010

 

 

 

i can play for a while, until the first mission, the misty mission, then it crashes. Sometimes i can finish the mission and others i can't

Now i made the install again with the GTA 3 sound files, but it is the same, it just won't work

ooh, and i don't know what is scm, sorry for my ignorance

 

thanks

Edited January 19, 2006 by benisablink182fan

[Ben]

@Craig - hahahaha !

 

@MM - Nice to see you around - it'll be good to finally have a chance to work with you after reading a bunch of your posts around the forum. My ideas are already above - car spawner (in front of Claude), and it needs to search for model numbers not names, and preferably work with GTA: Liberty City for a taskbar name (you might already have these covered ). And, at the end of it all, I'd like to see it included as part of the official version - installer option to install it.

 

As for features - well, I guess that's where all of the suggestions come in. Can you give us a brief overview of what features are already included (even if it needs a little tweaking)?

 

@Y_Less - yeah, when I first made the suggestion for an official trainer last week, I thought I remembered seeing this topic, so I had a look-see and found it .

[Ben]

Hahahaha ! Ah yes, the classic mix-up.

 

Anyhow, not to worry - good luck with it.

 

Also, I forgot to mention earlier that I've locked all of the topics on the second page of the forum since they haven't been used for a year. Most of them are finished with now I think, but if someone needs to post in one of them for whatever reason, just PM me, Craig or Y_Less and we'll unlock it for you...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you have a decent reason !

 

EDIT - By the way, both of --Cole--'s topics have just been locked and binned. The full potential one has been covered in the POLL, and won't be necessary after the poll concludes in about 11 hours time (a countdown!). And the VC Cars In LC one hasn't been posted in since Dec 12 - there's always the Unofficial Mods topic if anyone really wants to talk about it.

Edited January 19, 2006 by benisablink182fan

[Ben]

Ok, two things. Firstly, the scm is the file that controls pretty much everything in the game - it tells the game where to spawn certain things, controls the missions, etc.

 

You can get the latest version of it (which means less bugs) from here. Use winrar to open the archive, and use the main.scm file in the v5 folder.

 

And, secondly - you need to verify the paths of your audio, although something tells me this isn't your problem. Open up your Show Config utility (it's in your main LC folder). Click on Advanced, and go to the Audio tab. On the right, click Verify Paths. For any that are invalid, click Restore. Repeat until All Paths Valid.

 

Don't use the Limit Adjuster - you can change that information through the Show Config utility too - I think that's under the Game Parameters -> Map tab.

 

But (and I don't know anything much about coding, so I'm just guessing here) that output is pretty strange - I've had it a few times, but never on an unmodded LC. If I screw up installing a mod, I get something like that. Is it the same info everytime?

(EDIT - I've edited your post to remove the bits you don't need, so if you need to post a different output, see your post for the stuff you need).

 

You said you followed the installation properly - you installed over an unmodded full install (including radio stations on your hard-drive) of VC?

Edited January 19, 2006 by benisablink182fan

[Konstantinos]

no, i run gta-lc.exe...

Sorry, I got a little mislead here, since you mentioned VC Limit adjuster. That's an exe hacker used to overcome limitations of gta-vc.exe - something LC accomplishes by the launcher. Actually, I was able to use it to run LC, and it crashed very soon, much like you describe.

 

It's definetely not the audio problem, that wouldn't let you run the game at all. The latest scm is your best bet.

[nicholas86]

oooh!! that's it, so MSC is the main.scm file, i didn't realise. I firstly thought i needed an upgrade of this file but didn't know where to get it, so thanks for that . about the sound, i verified the paths already, i had to do it cause i had the no cd problem, which is fixed verifying the paths on the audio thing

 

hope it works just fine this time, thanks a lot!!

[ModelingMan]

Can you give us a brief overview of what features are already included (even if it needs a little tweaking)?

I was just going to start from scratch with the trainer. It was originally coded in Pascal but I'd prefer to do it in C++, it's more compatible when it comes to things like DirectX. Speaking of DirectX, I was thinking about coding the trainer to be used 100% ingame instead of having to switch between the game and an external window.

 

As for features already included, there aren't any as of yet as, I've already mentioned above, it'll be coded from scratch, hence why I'm asking for absolutely any kind of suggestion anyone might have.

 

 

car spawner (in front of Claude), and it needs to search for model numbers not names, and preferably work with GTA: Liberty City for a taskbar name (you might already have these covered ).

Easily taken care of. Those were infact already taken care of in the current trainer, if you look in the ini file included with it you will see the ID of each car. And the "taskbar name" is not what I, nor do many people, use to retrieve the handle of a window, class name is the better way to go.

[Ben]

Ok sweet - I look forward to seeing what you can come up with.

[Y_Less]

Speaking of DirectX, I was thinking about coding the trainer to be used 100% ingame instead of having to switch between the game and an external window.

Sounds interesting, I'll have to get the DX SDK and start having a look at them. Will you be releasing the source?

[GTAThomas]

i would love to see the trainer ingame. because sometimes with LJ's trainer my game wont alt-tab out and i have to restart my computer. im so suprised to see u take on the duties so willingly. to me, this does not seem like an easy task.

[Craig Kostelecky]

For someone who isn't skilled at such things, it is hard. But I expect James will be able to handle this task with relative ease. He's a pretty good coder.

[GTAThomas]

We hope it works for you too, and please post some feedback soon. I am still confused about the whole VC LImit Adjuster though, if its a exe "hack" than how can you possible run LC with it? maybe konstantinos can help me with that one.

[GTAThomas]

binned cole's topics huh? oh well i havent seen him in this forum for a while, or even seen anything of him. Y_Less, they are only at the top as long as I keep bumping them

[GTAThomas]

hahahahahaha!

in LCS you are a hitman hired by "father, the guy in the confessional, idk his title" to kill people he does not like! He pays big bucks too.

"forgive me father for i have sinned... again" - Toni

"Holy Sh*t Toni, what did you do now" - preacher

 

funny how ol' JT missed these aspects of the games!

[GTAThomas]

Your right, but dang, it still must be pretty hard.

James eh? (im not canadian), lets see now... Alex (Y_Less), James (MM), Ben (benisablink182fan), Craig (craig kostelecky), thats all i know. this place would be a free for all for identity theifs, next to MySpace

Edited January 20, 2006 by GTA_Thomas

[Craig Kostelecky]

All of the limit adjuster settings are already included in the LC launcher. You can change those by clicking on the Show Config link.

 

And the latest scm files can always be downloaded from this link.

[Ben]

No no no - he means that the VC Limit Adjuster works in a similar sort of way to the launcher - it changes the interface of the EXE. So, no, the VC Limit Adjuster won't work with LC.

[Craig Kostelecky]

In case you haven't noticed, I've always preferred to call people by their first names rather than their usernames. Even in real life I've called people by their names when everyone else calls them by a nickname.

[Ben]

Ha! I mix between the two !

 

Anyhow, I'll add this to the checklist too, as well as the results of the poll, when I finalise them.

[Ben]

Alrighty then - I've compiled this list of stuff that got rejected from the official version from the poll that people might like to make and release unofficially. Enjoy!

• Clothes pickups

  Whatever sort of outfits you want - a popular choice was the prison outfit Claude wears at the start of the game. Another popular one was "Mr Claude" so he can go into the casino.

• Stores to rob

  Firstly, the interiors for these have to be made. --Cole-- suggested making the stores on Staunton available to rob. Use your imagination!

  Perhaps even tool shops - you could buy some VC weapons then.

  A bank to rob?

  Some cafes - these could double as places to eat and "refuel" your health

• SCM modifications

  Again, something creative. This could be anything from making a helicopter spawn at the start of the game, to changing the storyline completely, although that might be going a bit far in this case

• Asset properties

  Something else to think about - how to write these into the storyline. Perhaps a combination of mods might be the go.

  Popular choices were Kenji's casino, Salvatore's mansion, Catalina's mansion, Asuka's condo, etc. Again, be creative !

  Another idea was some extra garages around the city - Salvatore's mansion, Ray's lockup, Love's place, etc.

• Bodyguards

  Let's see if they can be smarter than the VC ones...

And that's about it - that should keep some people busy for a while. Edited May 4, 2007 by Ben

[Ben]

 

RESULTS OF POLL - WHICH VC FEATURES TO INCLUDE IN THE OFFICIAL VERSION OF LC?

 

Feature	To Be Included...	Notes
The Hunter	One at Phil's Army Barracks after 100 hidden packages, and one near the Triad Fish Factory at Atlantic Quays after 100%	Normal rewards for hidden packages as per GTA3 still in place. Spawn code to "cheat" and get the Hunter earlier to be added to the scm
VC Weapons	As a reward for 100% at hideout	GTA3 weapons at hideout as well. Perhaps a few hidden around the city in hard to reach places
Double Health & Armour	After 100%	As per VC
Minor VC Features	Left as is	No helicopters until SSV is unlocked, windscreens breakable, tyres poppable, motorcycles available throughout the game, etc. Make sure that the rewards from vigilante, paramedic, fire fighter, taxi missions are the same as GTA3
Interiors	As per Craig's discretion	A decision won't be made until Craig has seen them in-game. The only interior made at the moment is silver007's Marco's Bistro Interior

The above features are the ones chosen to be included in the official version of LC. Any others will become unofficial mods if people choose to make them. See this post in the Unofficial Mods topic for a full list of suggestions that came about as a result of the poll.

 

EDIT - Checklist updated to include the VC features in LC and trainer.

Edited January 20, 2006 by benisablink182fan

[ModelingMan]

Sounds interesting, I'll have to get the DX SDK and start having a look at them.  Will you be releasing the source?

I shall release the source after each release. I could code it so that the DX SDK is not needed. I'm not using spookies speedo code, only hooking a couple of DX functions which can easily be coded without the need of the SDK, that also means it is possible to do the same thing in Pascal/Delphi but I prefer to use C++ since it compiles smaller files than Delphi.

 

I'm going to start coding the trainer today, so please give me any suggestions you may have. I'll keep you posted about my progress...

[Johny]

Wohoo! Good to know that trainer is coming Only thing i specially need is car spawner

E: Little typo

Edited January 21, 2006 by Johny

[nicholas86]

well, i believe it does work with LC anyway, because the error is with gta-vc.exe, not gta-lc.exe, though i run gta-lc.exe. the game still crashes, i don't know what else to do, but i think the other files in lc-scm could do a little help, though i don't know what to do with them

 

dbug.scm

lc_stripped.scm

scm_vice.ini

vcopcode.asi

 

what should i do with these files??

[GTAThomas]

ha! i did not think my crazy bodygaurd idea would even make it on the unofficial list! I agree the VC ones were so stupid, maybe thats why they supplied you with three. TimBot was cool, almost another controllable charactor, 2 at a time. I have no idea how to fit in the asset properties. In LCS (damn ive got to quit comparing LC To LCS) the asset properties are just places that pay "protection", you didnt have to buy them. but seeing as how claude is not in a gang, this would not work. the clothes pickups would work, i dont know how to model Player models but someone must know how. stores to rob would be cool too, cole was being very imaginative latlely. So i say thumbs up on all those ideas!

[GTAThomas]

so wait, are you trying to start LC with the limit adjuster!?!?! if so then dont! You know what, i have no idea what you are saying. OK. put the scm_vice.ini in the LC folder (where all the subfolders are located, with the exes), also put the vcopcode.asi in there too. if you want to run a stripped game (no cars, peds, missions...) then backup the main.scm in the data folder and delete it there, then place the lc_stripped.scm in there and rename it to main.scm. do the same with debug if you want debug mode on (all missions availible, 3 islands unlocked, etc...), debug should be for testers, but if you want to mess around with it go ahead, anybody can do it!

[nicholas86]

 

so wait, are you trying to start LC with the limit adjuster!?!?!

no i'm not, i just say that it could help maybe, because nothing else does, it still crashes at random sites, sometimes soon sometimes later

i'll add again the first debug lines, at least from the last time i tried to play

 

Exception at address: 0x0067C2E2

 

Last opcode executed: 0001 wait

 

In thread: inf_p1

 

 

 

Registers -----------------------------------------------------

 

EAX: 0x06B48124 EBX: 0x07D02000 ECX: 0x000000DD EDX: 0x07D02000

 

ESI: 0x0150D71C EDI: 0x00000150 EBP: 0x3F6DD2F2 ESP: 0x0012FCD0

 

EFLAGS: 1000010000001001000110

[GTAThomas]

Yes a car spawner would be great.

So delfi wont tell you the secrets of his/her trainer? Do you know how to do it yourself now? know what would be cool? FREEZE TIME! where everything stops! cars, peds, people jumping are stuck in the air but you can still move around and kill stuff and steal cars... heh heh, maybe im getting carried a way. But Edison Carter was able to do this with the LCS (damn there i go again) cheatdevice, and if im not mistaken, LCS uses the vc engine like lc does.

[GTAThomas]

did you add the files i told you too, replace the old ones with them?

[Konstantinos]

Allright... to clean out the confusion. VC Limit adjuster is a program designed to overcome the limitations of gta-vc.exe BY EDITING THE FILE. Some mods, like Myriad islands, need it to run. LC doesn't since we have the launcher (gta-lc.exe) to do this.

Now if you use the adjuster and then run gta-lc.exe, you won't change a thing, and probably cause trouble. It IS possible to use it and then run gta-vc.exe, but that's about all you can do - run it. You won't be able to do missions etc., it's much like playing with a stripped scm.

 

nicholas86, I suggest you reinstall the game over a FRESH COPY of VC. Your installation must be corrupted, since even the old main.scm included in the installation package shouldn't crash like this.