[SA] Myriad Islands

[locO G]

Cran: You must admit that GTA-XYZ gave one the 'illusion' of freedon of will but...

 

We could create a totally free and open ended game, where the individual player's morality governs the outcome.

 

Join the local gang, or 'clean up the hood'. A moral choice. Either way one could still 'win' the game.

 

 

 

 

 

[Cran.]

 

When can we expect a shiny release?

 

@lord fido you should wait until the next installer pack release, then feel free to make one.

[OrR]

Side missions based upon property ownage.... this could work indeed!

The only downside to this I can think of right now, is that there wouldn't be any real goal throughout the game. Unless ofcourse you start categorizing the properties according to price.

 

For example:

- 3 properties wich each have 3 side missions: 0 - 10000 MI$

- 4 properties wich each have 4 side missions: 10000 - 30000 MI$

- 5 properties wich each have 5 side missions: 30000 - 60000 MI$

- and so on...

 

One way to have a sort of storyline is to unlock the 10k - 30k missions only when you've finished the 0k - 10k missions, and so on...

I like the idea but I'd only force the player to complete one of a number of level 1 missions to unlock the level 2 missions (with a level 1 mission possibly being a set of missions tied to a property). This way you could choose to rush through the game or finish everything. It would prevent getting frustrated by one stupid mission. Of course this would make a complex logic storyline impossible or difficult but that isn't really something that's needed anyway. A few returning characters would be nice but it'd be difficult to make a SanAn style soap opera, anyway.

[Cran.]

Cran: You must admit that GTA-XYZ gave one the 'illusion' of freedon of will but...

 

We could create a totally free and open ended game, where the individual player's morality governs the outcome.

 

Join the local gang, or 'clean up the hood'. A moral choice. Either way one could still 'win' the game.

Thinking about it, that would be pretty interesting. Maybe you'll have the choice of being a good guy?

 

Like, at the start of the game, cops get you, and you can either;

1. Take a fine, lose most of your money

2. Work with the cops, clean up myriad.

 

And many other things where you can pick a number of options. Maybe even joining my nerd gang, and you have to work your way up!

 

But to make it better, we still need to have some kind of voicework. Otherwise it feels a bit n00bish, if you get what I mean. But I like this, it gives pretty much unlimited replay-ability.

 

But there has to be a few things set;

 

• The main issue in myriad; GTA3 had Spank, Vice lots the lost drug money and so on
• Few main characters, and gangs

[Gforce]

 

I removed it already. You people don't notice anything!

if you're going to make updates to the map then i think you should post an updated map and highlight the lot/s in question ...........

 

at this rate you will never get your MICC badge

 

do you want fries with that ?

 

Edit: illspirit and Steve-m have the final say with any lots that have Odie's name on them.

Edited June 25, 2006 by Gforce

[mickarrow]

Alexg: I wasn't suggesting you show previous work, you allready did. I was talking to Yeti, who hasn't shown anything but still got a large lot to start out with. Dammit...am I the only one here who strikes this as odd?

 

And about Odies lot, that's up to Steve M. No buts...

[Cran.]

Err, no

 

I should have quoted the map, but if some of you guys paid attention, you'd releaise that Opius had a lot at the top. I'll update MY map, and I won't be putting AlexG where yeti put him as I said before.

[JasonB]

What everyone seems to be forgetting is, we already have a story. Back in 2004 we held a big competition and people voted on which story they preferred for Myriad. As far as I know there was never any decision to disregard the chosen story.

 

Link:

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=141316&hl=

 

There was significant discussion some time ago on the private Myriad boards about the storyline to make it more action based in the beginning, but nothing was ever finalised.

 

I personally like the story that was written (by SadisticMachine) and it opens a wide world for Myriad. It doesn't force the player to adhere to a strict storyline, though the motive of the player is to save the father, this could be done at anytime provided the player has the money. And to do this the player can go off and do any number of submissions and mini-games. I have a largish story-arc planned (I had a story line planned before, but I've mostly scrapped that in favor of a different one, I'll type up a summary sometime).

[Cran.]

Mmmm, thast what I said last page. Even if we had this story line, nothings stopping us from having anything as submissions.

 

But with that storyline, i'd imagine the events would go;

• Work
• Get money + save father
• Go up though the ranks
• Get revenge
• Hold power + fight gang reinforcements

Have whatever missions in between. Starting missions would have the basic starting out GTA3 missions to it, like pick up whatever, drop someone off, assist someone, kill someone, etc.

 

Let's get a vote up!

 

Stay with Sadist's

Open ended thing

Other

Edited June 25, 2006 by Cran.

[Alexg]

 

QUOTE ( mickarrow)

Alexg: I wasn't suggesting you show previous work, you allready did. I  was talking to Yeti, who hasn't shown anything but still got a large lot to start out with.  Dammit...am I the only one here who strikes this as odd?   And about Odies lot, that's up to Steve M. No buts... Ah ok...     Guys, we talk too much and we work a little. I'd like very much to work with you but I need a precise answer: can I have a lot (it's not important wich lot) or no?

Edited June 25, 2006 by Alexg

[Cran.]

Well, what lot then? What do you want to put on your lot, and how big?

[Alexg]

Well, what lot then? What do you want to put on your lot, and how big?

c9_r6

This is a lot of apartments, so I'll build simply some apartments and houses (not a lot because it's a medium-small lot), but if possible it will be nicely to make a very small shop in the houses building, like a pharmacy or a greengrocer's

[BenMillard]

JB, that isn't a central storyline. It's just an introduction plus one mission. The free-roaming, do anything you want whenever you want style I'm suggesting would remain. I had forgotten about it but it's perfect.

 

I'm just saying we shouldn't try to create a heavily scripted, cinematic storyline with lots of sequential missions which everything is centred on.

 

It would be a sort of free-roaming, money-based RPG. The player does stuff for money so they can buy weapons, clothes, houses, special cars, resprays, vehicle mods, gambling, etc. Or they can just do stuff for fun. They start with no money.

 

There would be no other missions, no central storyline. Just sub-missions which can be done whenever they want. Loco G's descriptions are exactly what I have in mind. SadMac's introduction gives the player a sensible start point for this.

 

It might be nice to have some fairly simple property aquisition missions like in GTAVC. Some racing missions might require the player pay an entry fee. Races with more prize money would require a bigger entry fee. Apart from natural limits like that, entry to missions would be unrestricted.

 

(EDIT) No missions should have "follow path X or Y" choices because the player will get stuck in one mode or another for some time. Everything should be available all of the time. It's then down to the player to get the money, skills and equipment to carry out each sub-mission.

 

Because sub-missions are independant from each other and from property aquisition missions, it would be much easier to actually produce than a centralised storyline.

Edited June 25, 2006 by Cerbera

[Mark]

Aye..just keep money rewards really low...realistic etc. Oh and how about you gotta pay daily rent? (instead of like monthly lol) and if you get into big debt you get kicked out and have no save point..then you gotta earn money to pay rent again to save haha.

 

Hmm...I know...would it be possible to program the garages or whatever to only open for cars the you yourself own (aka you bought it) and not for stolen cars or whatever? dunno if there's a way to do it..would be cool as you would have to own your own car if you wanna save a car all the time, but you could steal if you wanted, just it would mean you had to dump it where it then get reposessed.

[JostVice]

woo, nice and sexy illy, I can't wait to see all the train bridge...

 

This is the logo for the taxi building

 

[lord fido]

Well, what lot then? What do you want to put on your lot, and how big?

c9_r6

This is a lot of apartments, so I'll build simply some apartments and houses (not a lot because it's a medium-small lot), but if possible it will be nicely to make a very small shop in the houses building, like a pharmacy or a greengrocer's

Im sorry but you must take a entire lot (a entire square of land surrounded by roads) .

 

My lot is going to be in the gheeto but it'll be based mainly in the low , poor and little commerce areas in the little mex. It'll have my version of FedEx, a park , a cop station and few tall apartments. If possible I'LL try to add my gang, the mexicans.

[lord fido]

@GTAAuron: and what if you really need to exit the game and you cant save? You lose your progress? That can't be good

 

I have an idea for a illres gang. I'll start with the sketch and will show you guys what i belive can end as a Official gang.

Edited June 25, 2006 by lord fido

[lord fido]

woo, nice and sexy illy, I can't wait to see all the train bridge...

 

This is the logo for the taxi building

 

You can even retexture the ingame ads for sunnyside taxis to be MI taxis. But what will happen in GTI?

[JostVice]

Exist 2 taxis in SA, one can be myriad taxis, and the other another company. for GTI (I dont have idea if can be possible to a car to run only in a island) we can edit one of the cars in sa, like the f*cked cars or another, changind something we can do it like a taxi and play taxi missions.

 

I do the taxi building, I use the VC interior and some textures... but a new exterior.

 

 

 

 

I think lot finished.... but you can suggest. any change? any addition...?

[Alexg]

Im sorry but you must take a entire lot (a entire square of land surrounded by roads).

But i seen this map:

 

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6497/myriadlotlist2ev.jpg

 

And there aren't lots surrounded by roads!

 

Aaahh... is there another island? Please, tell me about how will be the Myriad Islands!

[aad]

Nice One Jost_Vice i like that look of your taxi company , and about GTI it doesnt have one yett but i know that someone is making one too im just waiting for him to show his work. And i know will get back to work on my building it will have a small interior. and i dropped my building showed earlier to much work.

[Mark]

Suggestions? Decent road and pavement texutres. Use the ones that are used all over the real roads.

[Mark]

OK, let's clear things up for those of you who haven't read the topic fully.

 

ILLCOM: Normal lot spacing stands, as shown on the map

 

ILLNORTH: Looks like it'll be split into big chunks, lot whole city blocks. End of the day, it's up to Illy.

 

Therefore I don't see why AlexG can't have c9-r6..I never found anything useful to do with it (was me old lot lol)

[Mark]

Life's not good. Live with it

 

I think it's just summin funny to do. Means even if you're about to take on the last boss with a heat-seeking rocket launcher, ya need to make sure your rent is up to date .

[BenMillard]

GTAuron, I think that would just be annoying. Entry to missions should be as unlimited as possible and save points should be as available as possible. People have stuff to do other than play GTA.

 

However, the idea of having to buy certain stuff is good. Buying food, weapons and street races in GTASA works nicely. Maybe you'd have to pay rent on some locations until you complete their aquisition missions? It shouldn't be much if you do.

 

We should try to make it pretty simple, otherwise it won't be feasible for one or two SCM'ers to actually make it. Remember that we aren't a design house, we're a group of hobbyists. Copying existing sub-mission code would probably be the best starting point.

Edited June 26, 2006 by Cerbera

[kaaspizza]

Hi there,

 

Made some progress on my lots:

don't watch the road that will change offcourse..

Edited June 26, 2006 by kaaspizza

[aad]

Looks nice and clean , and good layout. I really like to see that people from GTI are finnaly posting their stuff.

[Cran.]

 

Well, what lot then? What do you want to put on your lot, and how big?

c9_r6

This is a lot of apartments, so I'll build simply some apartments and houses (not a lot because it's a medium-small lot), but if possible it will be nicely to make a very small shop in the houses building, like a pharmacy or a greengrocer's

Im sorry but you must take a entire lot (a entire square of land surrounded by roads) .

 

My lot is going to be in the gheeto but it'll be based mainly in the low , poor and little commerce areas in the little mex. It'll have my version of FedEx, a park , a cop station and few tall apartments. If possible I'LL try to add my gang, the mexicans.

What the f*ck are you on about dude? Illcom is compeltely different to illnorth. He has that lot, and that's the end of it Besides, your not one to dictate this, i'm incharge of the lots. What I say goes.

 

Please stop talking about your plans here.

[Alexg]

 

Therefore I don't see why AlexG can't have c9-r6..

Beh, I'm not interested to have that precise lot... I'd like to have a free lot where I can model buildings...

I chose that lot because it isn't very big, but if there is a big lot where I can build on, never mind, give me that lot

Edited June 26, 2006 by Alexg

[lord fido]

Therefore I don't see why AlexG can't have c9-r6..

if there is a big lot where I can build on...

If you want a big lot wait for illnorth then... if you want illcom then just do it now.