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[Forfit]

It's pretty dang near instantanious.

 

I only have a fan on my CPU, GPU, and a 120mm Exhaust fan.

 

Everything else you say sounds pretty logical, i have an Antec PSU and it has WAY more wires than i really need and are blocking alot of airflow probably. Thanks again for all the suggestions.

 

Edit: Well, i tried organizing my case, and there are so many wires and such little space

 

But, this brings me to a second question that i have. So for Christmas i am going to get a 6800 128mb AGP8x card (and then will be buying new PSU, hopefully only with wires i need). And, it takes up two slots. My Motherboard has 3 pci. I have a Soundblaster live! 7.1 card in the middle slot, so im guessing that with the Video card in there they would almost be touching, and that would be bad airflow for the Video card. So i should move the Soundcard to the bottom slot. Question: Am i able to move the card to the bottom slot without running into any drivers/hardware/other software issues because it will be seated in a different pci slot? Or can i just Transfer it to the other one no problem?

Edited December 4, 2005 by Forfit

[Wolf68k]

For the video card question: Don't worry about moving the sound card. While the GFX card may take up the AGP slot and the following PCI because of the heatsink&fan on it, it shouldn't be so big that it'll touch the soundcard. If it does then move it, but just try leave it where itis first.

 

And if you do have to move it the most that might happen is that the mobo will assign it a different IRQ number. Other than that no big deal...not that the new IRC numberis a big deal, it's something that Windows without you knowing it.

 

 

 

Back to the heat problem.

First ACA yes the temps while in Windows would read different because they are under load. But the temps are higher in the BIOS than in Windows. It's possible that the BIOS are reading the sensor wrong and the programs are reading correct.

Unless this mobo that Forfit has is a good name brand board (ASUS, Abit, Gigabyte and so on) and not some cheap POS like ECS, PC Chips, or Jetway (which btw are mobo's I've dealt with in the past) then the BIOS might be right but still not something to be 100% trusted.

Also once you have the CPU underload (eg: in Windows, play a game) then restart and look at the BIOS for the temp reading, the reading should be close to same reading the programs are saying.

But instead he's talking about a 10degree difference with the BIOS reading hotter. That to me tells me there is something wrong.

 

@Forfit

You open the case and it cools down. That's good. It means you need someintake fans. Most cases have a spot up front for a fan.

You can also mod the side panel by drilling some holes to mount a fan and either cut out the bigger hole or drill several holes fan to pull air in. And as best you can try to line it up to CPU's fan. The idea being that the side fan pulls air into the case and blows it directly onto the CPU fan, which is blowing air onto the heatsink.

 

And the GPU fan doesn't really count for much for cooling the system since it's designed to cool just the GPU.

[Forfit]

I have an Asus A7v8x-la (HP) with a AMD xp3200+

 

My CPU is at 45C right now at Idle. And i played some San Andreas for about an hour and it was at about 54C and then with the cover on the side it was about 58C. So i got it down some just by bumping up the speed of my fans. I have a coolermaster HSF on my CPU right now and i have an ANTEC HSF that is brand new just laying in a box in my room. Could i pull the fan off the heatsink and just use the fan for my intake? Oh, and my Harddrive is standing up Vertically in the front of the case, so thats a no-go. I would have to put the intake fan on the side.

[Wolf68k]

HP..ok there's the problem. ASUS makes reliable mobo but they make them cheap for HP.

 

 

No you must keep the fan on the heatsink. Think of it this way....can you blow out a candle from 10-feet away without any extra help using you're on breath? More than likely not. That's what your CPU will feel like if you take off the fan from it's heatsink and move it away.

Mounting heatsink's fan to the side inline with the CPU won't cool it any better, infact it'll make the CPU run even hotter if not burn it out. Adding a fan to the side and inline will just help get cooler air to the CPU.

 

You might be able to mount 2 to the side panel though. One inline with the CPU and another as far to the front as possible, and still be able to close the case easily, and as low as possible and again with the whole case cloased thing.

 

Might be easier to just find a better case and transfer everything to that case then you can mount the fans you need for better cooling. I was just looking at some at newegg.com and they have some nice ones for under $50

[Forfit]

 

No you must keep the fan on the heatsink. Think of it this way....can you blow out a candle from 10-feet away without any extra help using you're on breath? More than likely not. That's what your CPU will feel like if you take off the fan from it's heatsink and move it away.

Mounting heatsink's fan to the side inline with the CPU won't cool it any better, infact it'll make the CPU run even hotter if not burn it out. Adding a fan to the side and inline will just help get cooler air to the CPU.

 

I was just looking at some at newegg.com and they have some nice ones for under $50

Okay, here i think there is some miscommunication. From what i just read it sounds like to me that you are saying that i was talking about Removing the Fan from the heatsink ON my CPU and putting it on my sidecover? Sorry if i wasnt clear before but i meant that i have an EXTRA HSF in my room, and if i could detatch that fan from that heatsink, and use the fan on the sidecover, blowing air to the CPU heatsink and fan.

 

And infact, i have 50 bucks right now I'm buying me a case, any suggestions?

 

 

Forfit hunts for good deals on newegg.com

 

Edit: Since it is an HP, doesnt that mean its like custom fitted into my current Case? I know the MB is micro-ATX, so it should fit anything that supports Micro right?

Edited December 4, 2005 by Forfit

[ACA]

Wolf, I was saying that its under more load in the BIOS than in Windows. It's been so long since I read the reason why, but from what I remember, when at idle, windows puts the CPU in a sort of powersave mode. The BIOS doesn't have this function and thats the reason why its running hotter.

 

And, while I hate to argue, Im going to have to say that moving down his soundcard a slot or two can't really hurt anything. For the time it takes, I'd say it's worth it even if it doesnt make that big of a difference, just because that is one hell of a nice videocard.

 

The fact that it's an HP explains so much. That fan air ducting crap is just that - crap. It works but it sure does bug me that they use such cheap heatsinks that they run in the high 50 degrees.

 

I like wolf's idea of getting a new case. My friend had an HP with a similar problem and thats what he did. Improved his temperature alot too cause normal cases aren't nearly as cramped as an HP.

 

 

EDIT: HP uses the standard ATX/micro-ATX mounting holes for their boards so yes, the current board will work in any case that supports micro-ATX boards.

 

That's why I like HP. Unlike Dell, everything in their computers is built to the standards and can be upgraded/swapped out if they break.

 

Hell, even the ASUS boards they use in there are very similar to the other models they sell to the public. The friend I spoke of previously flashed his HP's BIOS with the BIOS from a similar board, and he was then able to get full access to the BIOS and even overclock.

Edited December 4, 2005 by ACA

[Forfit]

Perfect! Thanks for all the help guys, it means alot. I think i will make a topic so people can be so very kind to help me search for a nice case.

[MiNdLeSs]

Wolf, those settings were for filezilla.

 

I have this prob with my laptop. whenever i connect it to a tv (Via VGA or svideo), the movies files do not show up on the screen unless I open windows movie maker, load a video into the built-in player, and move the slider to somewhere ion the movie and pause it.

I have a ATI video card (x300, not sure though).

I've fixed the problem befire, but then my HDD died and since i re-installed windows, i can't remember what setting I ticked. Anyone know ehich one it was?

[ACA]

Wolf, those settings were for filezilla.

 

I have this prob with my laptop. whenever i connect it to a tv (Via VGA or svideo), the movies files do not show up on the screen unless I open windows movie maker, load a video into the built-in player, and move the slider to somewhere ion the movie and pause it.

I have a ATI video card (x300, not sure though).

I've fixed the problem befire, but then my HDD died and since i re-installed windows, i can't remember what setting I ticked. Anyone know ehich one it was?

I have a similar problem with my laptop. I found a quick fix that works if your laptop is fast enough. Go into the advanced display settings, troubleshoot tab, and disable hardware accelleration completely. This isnt the best fix for it though, because you need to re-enable it if you want to play any games.

[Black-hawk]

EDIT: Nevermind.

Edited December 5, 2005 by Black-hawk

[Wolf68k]

@Mindless

FileZilla Server settings

I'm going to list these starting from top to bottom of each page. I'm not going to take the time to give any details, that'll take a buttload of time to write out

 

General Settings: 21; 0; 2; 120; 120; 60

Welcome: {whatever the default message is}

IP binding: * {that's all that is there}

IP Filtering: {both boxes blank}

Passive Mode settings: Default selected {custom port range unchecked}

Security settings: both lines that start with Block are checked, the other 2 boxes are unchecked

Misc: first box checked only; 4096

Admin: 14147

Logging: Enabled checked, use different log each day selected

GSS: {nothing checked}

Speed Limit: both No Limits selected

Filetransfer: uncheck; 1; 9; checked; blank

 

User Settings:

Enable account and password checked; Group <none>; uncheck; 0; 0; blank

Speed Limit: both Defaults are selected

IP Filtering: both blank

 

Groups:

{I have no groups so nothing is set}

 

 

On the Interface tool bar, make sure the lightning bolt is pressed and the lock is not

I also gave the /c/ pressed

[Y.T.]

Does anyone know of a plugin for Adobe Premiere Pro that allows the importation of .ogg video files to it? I need it so i can export a few movies that i have to mpeg layer-2 for Encore DVD. I've looked around a bit and haven't found much so if anyone finds something please let me know. Another way would be for an .ogg/.ogm to other formats program, but i doubt there would be one of those over a plug-in for Premiere. Thanks.

[Wolf68k]

How about a program to conver the OGG to WAV? Which WinAmp should be able to do, if you ahve OGG codec installed to begin with.

[Y.T.]

thanks but no thanks i found OGMDemuxer which will demultiplex the movies to avi's for the vids and str's for the subs. this dvd is gonna come out better than i had hoped yay.

 

edit: ok this is sad...i downloaded the program but it is a command prompt program and like others that i have downloaded whenever i try to open them they just pop up for a second and then dissapear. if anyone knows what im doing wrong i would be eternally greatful.

 

programs:

OGMDemuxer

OGMInfo (i need this one in order to get the info on the videos i have so i can use the demuxer)

Edited December 5, 2005 by Y.T.

[CrazyDude]

Is there any possible way to control my televison and other IR-controlled devices with my computer?

USB device?

Programs?

My laptop doesn't have an IR port sadly.

[Wolf68k]

@YT

Start->Run type: cmd

Then use the old DOS commands to browse to the folder where you extrated the program and run it.

 

 

@Pilate

You would have to use something with IR. It might be plossible to find a program for the PC that might be able to do it, but don't hold your breath.

I do know of some Palm software that can make use of the Palm's IR and make the Palm a universal remote.

[Forfit]

This is cool. I just found Vice City and it's not on my computer anymore and i havent played it in forever so i went to reinstall it. And it Won't LET ME!!! I get this error Message, something about DirectX Distribution, here's a screenshot of my problem. How do i fix it? Thanks

 

 

Edit: Nevermind, the cd was scratched, toothpaste did the trick!!

Edited December 6, 2005 by Forfit

[Cran.]

Wait. How could toothpaste fix it? Toothpaste is slightly abrasive...

[Kanney]

Hey guys, I need a good program (free) that I can take screenshots with. Like to take a screenie of Windows Media Player of a video playing in it. Pls.

[Waste]

Wait. How could toothpaste fix it? Toothpaste is slightly abrasive...

That's the point.

It wears the surface down around the scratch to even it out.

[CrazyDude]

@Pilate

You would have to use something with IR. It might be plossible to find a program for the PC that might be able to do it, but don't hold your breath.

I do know of some Palm software that can make use of the Palm's IR and make the Palm a universal remote.

What I was asking was do you know of the hardware I need. I know I need an IR device but I don't know where or what I'm looking for.

I'd be impressed if no one has ever wanted to do this before...

[XMike]

Okay, this is probably a n00bish question but I was going to move some of the icons around on my desktop, but when I try to move them, nothing happens, and they just stay there. If I find the answer before someone posts I'll edit, thanks

[Dalpura]

Right-click your desktop, arrange icons by, uncheck auto arrange. Might be your problem.

[Forfit]

Should a 430 Watt PSU (thermaltake) be sufficient for a 6800?

[Wolf68k]

@Pilate

That I don't know and I didn't bother to look into. But remember; Google is your friend, your buddy, you pal, your bestest buddy in the whole wide world, your...well you get the idea

 

 

 

@Forfit

It should, yes.

[Cran.]

Should a 430 Watt PSU (thermaltake) be sufficient for a 6800?

Yes, the recommended is 350w.

[Jack_Knife]

What kinda wattage (for a PSU) are we talking for my system? I need to get a new one, as the current one is apparently quite under-rated for my system.

 

Mobo: ABit AN8-V

Vid Card: Nvidia Geforce 6600 256MB, PCI Express

Current PSU: Some really cheap 400W one.

[Wolf68k]

Don't be cheap, bud. Trust me on this. If you're cheap with your PSU you'll regret it when things start to act up a short time later.

 

But then when you say cheap, what is you budget?

[Forfit]

 

Should a 430 Watt PSU (thermaltake) be sufficient for a 6800?

Yes, the recommended is 350w.

I have a Antec 350 watt right now, but i really dont wanna be at the bare minimum to run it, and not only that, im short one 4 pin connector, and i dont wanna use those splitter cables they give me either. I hear it takes power from the card even more.

[Wolf68k]

Should a 430 Watt PSU (thermaltake) be sufficient for a 6800?

Yes, the recommended is 350w.

I have a Antec 350 watt right now, but i really dont wanna be at the bare minimum to run it, and not only that, im short one 4 pin connector, and i dont wanna use those splitter cables they give me either. I hear it takes power from the card even more.

Antec makes a real nice 430w PSU. TRUE430

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817103928