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[_Moe_]

randy orton is an ok wrestler but he is still not as good as Shawn micheals. booker T is one of the best and christian is gay now. ric flair used to be cool but evolution has made him s***. i hope Shane becomes a wrestler again he is one of my favourites

[Kevin_79]

Moe you dont understand wrestling. Randy Orton is a better wrestler than Shawn Micheals. HBK is just the better entertainer, a lot of people are confusin wrestling with entertainment. Booker T is injured and will be out for at least 2 months right now. Christain is one of the best heels in WWE. We are saying Randy Orton is one of the best wrestlers, maybe not as entertaining, but i like his character aswell.

[Corzaa]

WWE top 5 wrestlers (not entertainers)

 

Kurt Angle

Chris Benoit

Chris Jericho

Eddie Guerrero

Ric Flair

[Wolfwood]

Moe you dont understand wrestling. Randy Orton is a better wrestler than Shawn Micheals. HBK is just the better entertainer, a lot of people are confusin wrestling with entertainment. Booker T is injured and will be out for at least 2 months right now. Christain is one of the best heels in WWE. We are saying Randy Orton is one of the best wrestlers, maybe not as entertaining, but i like his character aswell.

I agree but He is not the best in any stance entertainer or wrestler..

He is doing a good job and I am sure he will have a big spot to do at SummerSlam and I am looking forward to see what he can do when he needs too..

 

[Wolfwood]

Yeah i remember him in wcw and he was in 3 count with sugar shane helms ( huricane helms) and that other guy oh whats his name?

Evan Karagias was his name.. He was like the only guy in WCW to lose to a Women..

Shannon was cool he was also trianed abit by the Hardys in Omega..

He is a great guy and needs the push he deserves

[Kevin_79]

Shannon Moore doesnt deserve a push. If anything he should be sent back to OVW. He isnt that good. Also....Ric Flair isnt that good of a wrestler. Brock Lesnar should be in that top five in place of him. Then the WGTT.

[Nate Baker1]

I cant believe summelrslam is comnig to my home and hometown phoenix az!!! They come here once maybe twice a year tops.

[_Moe_]

Moe you dont understand wrestling. Randy Orton is a better wrestler than Shawn Micheals. HBK is just the better entertainer, a lot of people are confusin wrestling with entertainment. Booker T is injured and will be out for at least 2 months right now. Christain is one of the best heels in WWE. We are saying Randy Orton is one of the best wrestlers, maybe not as entertaining, but i like his character aswell.

maybe you havnt noticed that wwe is entertainment. because its fake it doesnt really matter how good of a wrestler they are. its World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT. and shawn micheals would kick ortons ass any day.

[Wolfwood]

Yeah I agree Shawn has alot more experiance in and out of the Ring.. But the thing is You guys need to see Shannon in WCW and Omega and your mind will change

[Corzaa]

You should see some stuff Hurricane can do with cruiserweights,he really needs smackdown

[Kevin_79]

HBK is out of shape Moe, face it, he is past his prime and cant wrestle half a good as he use too. But Orton is still young and is in his prime. Who cares if its world wrestling entertainment. it wouldnt be that way if some stupid ppl didnt care so much for pandas and sh*t. It would still be World Wrestling Federation. It still matters who is the better technique wrestler.

[_Moe_]

HBK is out of shape Moe, face it, he is past his prime and cant wrestle half a good as he use too. But Orton is still young and is in his prime. Who cares if its world wrestling entertainment. it wouldnt be that way if some stupid ppl didnt care so much for pandas and sh*t. It would still be World Wrestling Federation. It still matters who is the better technique wrestler.

HBK is past his prime but he is still better than Orton. I dont think he has won a match in a long time without some help

[Kevin_79]

omg....of course he is gonna get help Moe. He is a heel! He has to act bad and get any way to win. Its all fake, he is a very good wrestler and wouldnt need help. But thats the heel way, to just have their buddies interfere. Look at any heel, they all cheat to win. With either a chair, using the ropes, any foreign object, low blows, and interference. Its part of the heel character to cheat.

[_Moe_]

and that is why heels are sh!t! so stop making excuses that he is good because he is obviously not

[leper73]

Tonight on Raw, I predict during the Test-Steiner match, Stacy double-crosses Scott halfway through and joins Test. (note: I did not read any spoilers for this, it is just my prediction) Anyone think differently or agree?

[Phatgordo13]

HBK is easily one of the best entertaining wrestlers of all time. Randy Orton ....i dunno if hes a better wrestler than HBK in his prime....now he is...then again Orton is still just starting so hes still got time to blow past HBK in his prime. Right now though, Orton is easily a better wrestler. He's young and very talented he can do alot of things HBK use to do but cant do no more.

[Kevin_79]

 

and that is why heels are sh!t! so stop making excuses that he is good because he is obviously not

you still dont get it...Heels arent sh*t, their character has to cheat!!! If they want to get paid they do what they're told and they cheat! How stupid are you! jeez......I mean it shouldnt be too hard to understand.

 

 

 

EDIT: Did anyone see Test fake that injury to beat Steiner. That was gold! haha, i loved that one.

Edited August 19, 2003 by kevin_79

[_Moe_]

and that is why heels are sh!t! so stop making excuses that he is good because he is obviously not

you still dont get it...Heels arent sh*t, their character has to cheat!!! If they want to get paid they do what they're told and they cheat! How stupid are you! jeez......I mean it shouldnt be too hard to understand.

 

 

 

 

heels cheat because they are sh*t. dumass

[menace2sobriety]

 

Moe you dont understand wrestling. Randy Orton is a better wrestler than Shawn Micheals. HBK is just the better entertainer, a lot of people are confusin wrestling with entertainment. Booker T is injured and will be out for at least 2 months right now. Christain is one of the best heels in WWE. We are saying Randy Orton is one of the best wrestlers, maybe not as entertaining, but i like his character aswell.

maybe you havnt noticed that wwe is entertainment. because its fake it doesnt really matter how good of a wrestler they are. its World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT. and shawn micheals would kick ortons ass any day.

no he wouldnt....he's an injury prone old man

 

maybe in his prime....but as of now.....orton is going nowhere but up....bleh.....ya gotta look into it a lil more

 

anyway its good to be back....i missed a whole week of wrestling but im all caught up now....how's it been kev??looks like uve had to defend a lil

 

cant belive people still like churchy boy

 

and moe....what you just said about heels really shows alot..

 

its a part of wreslting....when i REALLY like a wreslter....i care not if he is a heel or not....take jericho....obviously a better heel than face....but he is so good at all the aspects, that i could give a sh*t if he was a heel/face

 

same with lesnar recently....him or angle.....as long as those two ridiculously talented wrestlers are fighting eachother.....i dont care whos the heel.....lesnar as heel just means he gets to squash a couple more people....and i dont think there is a single person that can make a sqaush match so easily as him

 

heels cheat because someone tells them that they have to....someone who is better at drawing heat will more often than not be cheating....but i could give a sh*t....im not a face guy....i cheer for who i like....wether they are "bad" or "good"....look at ric flair....still the man...and he like jericho....have been heels almost thier entire career...but are so goddam good at it that they will always get mixed reactions....i dont care if flair kills a baby....he'll still get crazy woo's just from what he's done for the buisness.

 

lesnar is heel now....does he need to cheat??f*ck no....he could kill anyone he wanted....everyone openly says backstage that theyve never been in the ring with someone so strong.....but will he be cheating...most likely!

Edited August 19, 2003 by menace2sobriety

[Kevin_79]

and that is why heels are sh!t! so stop making excuses that he is good because he is obviously not

you still dont get it...Heels arent sh*t, their character has to cheat!!! If they want to get paid they do what they're told and they cheat! How stupid are you! jeez......I mean it shouldnt be too hard to understand.

 

 

 

 

heels cheat because they are sh*t. dumass

............get out of the topic. Did you even read my posts? I explained everything, Heels arent sh*t in real life. Their character in WWE is. That sentance should explain it.

 

 

menace, good to see you back! It wasnt the same having other peoples posts to reply to. You just explained more why Moe is stupid!

 

 

Also, has anyone been seeing Rosey wrestle lately? His finishing move is kick ass! He picks them up Death Valey Drive style the spins them around into a bossman slam type maneuver. I love that move!

 

 

I thought that RAW was pretty good last night, i only found some parts boring. Like the La Resistance angle with the dudleys sucks so much. They arent really getting the crowd into their matches.

 

 

Also, I wont be able to see all of Summerslam!!! I will only catch the end of it. Because i am going to Canadas Wonderland this Sunday and when i get back it will be about 9:30, so i will probobly just catch the chamber and maybe another sh*tty match before that.

[menace2sobriety]

and that is why heels are sh!t! so stop making excuses that he is good because he is obviously not

you still dont get it...Heels arent sh*t, their character has to cheat!!! If they want to get paid they do what they're told and they cheat! How stupid are you! jeez......I mean it shouldnt be too hard to understand.

 

 

 

 

heels cheat because they are sh*t. dumass

............get out of the topic. Did you even read my posts? I explained everything, Heels arent sh*t in real life. Their character in WWE is. That sentance should explain it.

 

 

menace, good to see you back! It wasnt the same having other peoples posts to reply to. You just explained more why Moe is stupid!

 

 

Also, has anyone been seeing Rosey wrestle lately? His finishing move is kick ass! He picks them up Death Valey Drive style the spins them around into a bossman slam type maneuver. I love that move!

 

 

I thought that RAW was pretty good last night, i only found some parts boring. Like the La Resistance angle with the dudleys sucks so much. They arent really getting the crowd into their matches.

 

 

Also, I wont be able to see all of Summerslam!!! I will only catch the end of it. Because i am going to Canadas Wonderland this Sunday and when i get back it will be about 9:30, so i will probobly just catch the chamber and maybe another sh*tty match before that.

yeah d-lo brown was doing that move right before he got the boot.....not to say rosey doesnt do it just as good....but its a sweet move none the less....he should learn the top rope splash.

 

yeah raw was okay.....anything with jericho doing good is good in my books....i had this reallyweird feeling that jericho might have wanted his hair cut but thank god...not that it would matter....he would look fine with short hair....but him winning is teh sh*t....hopefully the same this weekend....i for some reason only see orton, jericho, or hhh winning the match.

 

ive only seen lil clips of smackdown but im totally happy with lesnars heel turn....he impresses me more and more every week....he only gets better at everything its nuts.....i like how bret hart only really likes him and angle besides the canadian wreslters

 

summerslam looks good but man do some of the low-card matches look sh*tty...those are the type of matches they should be adding stips. to like a tlc or something...ah well....i expect angle/lesnar to totally blow thier mania match outta the water...even though it was an awesome match at mania..

[Wildfire84]

i didn't like the jericho thing. i guess that since i originally started watching wrestling around the time that the nwo started, i grew up thinking that kevin nash was great. i still think that and i don't think he should have cut his hair.

 

anyone know why he bleached it? it makes him look way too old.

[Kevin_79]

The wrestlers that have the biggest chance of winning the Chamber this sunday are HHH, Goldberg, and Jericho. WWE Officials would be absolutely jaw dropped, shocked if anyone else won. I kinda see Goldberg winning though. Advertisements for Unforgiven show HHH taking on Goldberg for the title. So either Goldberg or Triple H will win this sunday. Chris Jericho would be the shock of the 3, but not as shocking as the rest.

 

 

I also see a face turn for HHH in the very near future, probobly happen at Summerslam. Since Ric Flair and HHH are saying that Orton doesnt want to win the title this sunday....I see Orton turning on HHH and kicking his ass in the Chamber. Orton is the best of Evolution.

 

 

In other news, my man Batista is coming back!!! He is at about 90% right now. He has also been cleared by the docters to appear on WWE, but he will only wrestle in early September. So i see him coming back to replace HHH in Evolution.

 

 

Yes...the card on Summerslam has about 3 good matches....fatal 4 way, WWE Title, and Elimination Chamber. Good thing i will be missing all the crappy matches!

 

 

 

anyone know why he bleached it? it makes him look way too old.

 

It was an upcoming movie that he needed to bleach his hair for.

 

 

EDT: Menace! You posted the same time as me almost!

Edited August 19, 2003 by kevin_79

[menace2sobriety]

 

i didn't like the jericho thing.  i guess that since i originally started watching wrestling around the time that the nwo started, i grew up thinking that kevin nash was great.  i still think that and i don't think he should have cut his hair. 

 

anyone know why he bleached it?  it makes him look way too old.

nash is weak now....in more ways than one....ah well i hope he enjoyed his loss

 

hehe anyway he is bleached it and cut it for the movie "the punisher"....he'll be playing some side character...its out next summer

 

if anyone watched closely.....you could see how fast jericho was gladly chopping off nash's hair....almost too fast you could clearly hear nash say "Dont cut it all" while faking unconsiousness

 

and hopefully this article is true for jericho's sake:

 

"WWE has just announced the house show line-up for the September 13th RAW brand house show from Knoxville, TN. They have listed a World Championship Match - Chris Jericho vs. Triple H, with Ric Flair. With WWE announcing cards in advance now to help increase ticket sales, it looks as if either Chris Jericho or Triple H will be coming out of SummerSlam with the World Title.

 

The last we had heard, this was the current direction the writing team had planned. Somehow though, most see Triple H walking out with the title.

 

It really has to be either HHH or Jericho who wins the title, simply because Orton just isn't ready to be a World Champion yet, Nash cant get over, and Goldberg/HBK wont work house shows."

 

and unfortunatly i dont see batista as a suitable replacement for someone of triple h's caliber.....think about that order....it works perfectly atm.

Edited August 19, 2003 by menace2sobriety

[Kevin_79]

menace, remember though. They advertised house shows as Brock being champion when Angle came out winning. Also, Goldber has the biggest chance most likely. But I hope jericho wins!

 

 

 

and unfortunatly i dont see batista as a suitable replacement for someone of triple h's caliber.....think about that order....it works perfectly atm.

 

 

I think Orton will replace HHH, and then Batista will take Ortons place, because Orton just got a HUGE push.

Edited August 19, 2003 by kevin_79

[menace2sobriety]

menace, remember though. They advertised house shows as Brock being champion when Angle came out winning. Also, Goldber has the biggest chance most likely. But I hope jericho wins!

id be really surprised is crapberg won....i think the wwe fully realizes that all of goldbergs potential and reputation went down the sh*thole.....and he's too demanding for a title run....he wants the title and no house shows....what a f*cker....he can wait...or hopefully, get fired and never get the chance again.

 

 

[Kevin_79]

menace, remember though. They advertised house shows as Brock being champion when Angle came out winning. Also, Goldber has the biggest chance most likely. But I hope jericho wins!

id be really surprised is crapberg won....i think the wwe fully realizes that all of goldbergs potential and reputation went down the sh*thole.....and he's too demanding for a title run....he wants the title and no house shows....what a f*cker....he can wait...or hopefully, get fired and never get the chance again.

lmao, I dont hate goldberg THAT much. But i think i see some blackmail coming though. Vince will force Goldberg to work some house shows if he wants to be champ. If he doesnt work house shows he has no chance of winning. If i were in WWE I'd want to work as much as i could, it looks fun as hell!

[menace2sobriety]

menace, remember though. They advertised house shows as Brock being champion when Angle came out winning. Also, Goldber has the biggest chance most likely. But I hope jericho wins!

id be really surprised is crapberg won....i think the wwe fully realizes that all of goldbergs potential and reputation went down the sh*thole.....and he's too demanding for a title run....he wants the title and no house shows....what a f*cker....he can wait...or hopefully, get fired and never get the chance again.

lmao, I dont hate goldberg THAT much. But i think i see some blackmail coming though. Vince will force Goldberg to work some house shows if he wants to be champ. If he doesnt work house shows he has no chance of winning. If i were in WWE I'd want to work as much as i could, it looks fun as hell!

if i were goldberg, id be embarrased to be in the same league as amazing all-round wreslters as chris jericho, the rock, hhh, angle, lesnar, flair and all the other greats....gad me no like him..

 

 

anyway there is a huge match for #1 contendership to aj styles' title this week....and a really wierd new type of x division match for the title as well in nwatna

 

aj styles is mint....wwe all over him i hope he signs one day

[Kevin_79]

Aj Styles is great. He reminds me of Shawn Micheals in his prime. But i doubt that he will sign with WWE, he will just be mis used talent, just like Dlo Brown and Raven. Plus AJ Styles is the NWA champion, and he is much better there. But i would really love to see him in WWE aswell. He has great potential, and he would have a killer feud with Randy Orton if he came to WWE.

[leper73]

The undercard looks average, but the 4-way US Title will be awesome. I definitely see Benoit walking away with the strap. I so hope HHH doesn't retain in the chamber. He's a good worker and all, but give someone else a chance. Jericho would be good; have him win and RVD win the blowoff with Kane, and have them go back and forth in the World Title picture. I know they want to make HHH the next Ric Flair, but even Flair gave up the belt once in a while. Otherwise, you keep down everybody, face and heel. Raw's problem is, they have a good undercard, but with the same champion week in and week out, there's no good main event rivalry (Smackdown has the opposite problem; after Angle/Lesnar for the World Title and Benoit/Guerrerro/Rhyno for the US Title, there are no decent side storylines). Like I said, Van Dam vs. Jericho should be a great main event rivalry, just look at their match last week.

 

And if they want to turn someone in the Evolution face, it should be Orton. He's a great heel, but he would better fit the "established veterans are holding me back" angle.