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[menace2sobriety]

 

And the award for worst looking Pedigree goes to:

 

 

Triple H and Shelton Benjamin.

It was actually looking like one of the best untill Sheltons sell....the arm hook was fluid like water.

 

 

Really enjoyed Raw tonight. I actually wasn't expecting Shawn as the ref.

 

You, the only person on the planet that wasnt expecting it

 

I also enjoyed Raw though. Lots of singles matches, for the most part, done quite well. Only major dissapointment is Shawn Michaels.

 

Hassan is golden. Cant belive how well they got the crowd on themselves...like the rest, cant wait to see him wrestle....if hes okay, then we have a heck of a talent on our hands. Even his manager is ridiculously good on the mic. Not phased by anything or anyone. Just straight heel angst...good stuff.

[Phatgordo13]

I dunno how many of you have read this report, but this is some shaking news.

 

 

- Vince McMahon’s plans for John Bradshaw Layfield is for him to hold onto the title until Summerslam, however, other writers (including Paul Heyman before he was demoted) were trying to convince him to change it to Wrestlemania.

 

- At that point, the plan would be for John Cena to defeat JBL to win the title while over on RAW, Randy Orton would recapture the World title before a re-draft takes place immediately after Wrestlemania. This would then lead to Cena being drafted by RAW and Orton by Smackdown! which would lead to a whole new round of opponents for each wrestler. Orton would get an extended run as champion and Cena would in all likelihood eventually drop the title back to Triple H.

 

- However, it is unclear whether these initial plans are still intact because a lot of it was Paul Heyman’s proposals. Furthermore, Stephanie McMahon doesn’t favor John Cena as champ since she feels that he isn’t a good enough worker to be at the top and that his pops aren’t at championship levels.

 

- Keep in mind these are just talked about plans right now and could change at the flick of a switch.

[Kevin_79]

I really like Hassan, I can't wait to see him in action. He looks like a powerhouse and I think he may be a good wrestler. You can tell if they're good by looking at them, and judging their passion for the business.

 

@PG, that's some pretty good/sh*tty news. I definitely want a re draft, but the rest is just bleh.

[{Matty}{Vice}]

I dunno how many of you have read this report, but this is some shaking news.

 

 

- Vince McMahon’s plans for John Bradshaw Layfield is for him to hold onto the title until Summerslam, however, other writers (including Paul Heyman before he was demoted) were trying to convince him to change it to Wrestlemania.

 

- At that point, the plan would be for John Cena to defeat JBL to win the title while over on RAW, Randy Orton would recapture the World title before a re-draft takes place immediately after Wrestlemania. This would then lead to Cena being drafted by RAW and Orton by Smackdown! which would lead to a whole new round of opponents for each wrestler. Orton would get an extended run as champion and Cena would in all likelihood eventually drop the title back to Triple H.

 

- However, it is unclear whether these initial plans are still intact because a lot of it was Paul Heyman’s proposals. Furthermore, Stephanie McMahon doesn’t favor John Cena as champ since she feels that he isn’t a good enough worker to be at the top and that his pops aren’t at championship levels.

 

- Keep in mind these are just talked about plans right now and could change at the flick of a switch.

hmm...intresting, where did you get that information from?

 

I would love to see Randy Orton and John Cena on the same show, i have no doubt that will happen some day. If JBL held that title until next summerslam then that would be some ling kickass reign. I think he is more likely to loose it at WMXI.

 

I am on holiday this week so i could not resist the temptation of looking at the results and it sounds like an amazing show this week with the beat the clock and all. I can't wait until RAW comes live ,

[Phatgordo13]

I really like Hassan, I can't wait to see him in action. He looks like a powerhouse and I think he may be a good wrestler. You can tell if they're good by looking at them, and judging their passion for the business.

 

@PG, that's some pretty good/sh*tty news. I definitely want a re draft, but the rest is just bleh.

He did a dark match at Taboo Tuesday but of course it was against Sgt. Slaughter so it was kinda hard to tell who was carring who. lol. That was the only time Ive seen em wrestle. I wasnt blown back but I certaintly was interested in watching.

[menace2sobriety]

I dunno how many of you have read this report, but this is some shaking news.

 

 

- Vince McMahon’s plans for John Bradshaw Layfield is for him to hold onto the title until Summerslam, however, other writers (including Paul Heyman before he was demoted) were trying to convince him to change it to Wrestlemania.

 

- At that point, the plan would be for John Cena to defeat JBL to win the title while over on RAW, Randy Orton would recapture the World title before a re-draft takes place immediately after Wrestlemania. This would then lead to Cena being drafted by RAW and Orton by Smackdown! which would lead to a whole new round of opponents for each wrestler. Orton would get an extended run as champion and Cena would in all likelihood eventually drop the title back to Triple H.

 

- However, it is unclear whether these initial plans are still intact because a lot of it was Paul Heyman’s proposals. Furthermore, Stephanie McMahon doesn’t favor John Cena as champ since she feels that he isn’t a good enough worker to be at the top and that his pops aren’t at championship levels.

 

- Keep in mind these are just talked about plans right now and could change at the flick of a switch.

Thats one of those things that will have changed 32x before it ever happens, just seems too much of a bold statement for someone to just make, as if they were sitting in on a writers meeting or somthing

 

Who knows though, im sure its stemmed from something that someone heard, that or its totally made up. Either way I just want the shows back together.

[Werleman1]

I dunno how many of you have read this report, but this is some shaking news.

 

 

- Vince McMahon’s plans for John Bradshaw Layfield is for him to hold onto the title until Summerslam, however, other writers (including Paul Heyman before he was demoted) were trying to convince him to change it to Wrestlemania.

 

- At that point, the plan would be for John Cena to defeat JBL to win the title while over on RAW, Randy Orton would recapture the World title before a re-draft takes place immediately after Wrestlemania. This would then lead to Cena being drafted by RAW and Orton by Smackdown! which would lead to a whole new round of opponents for each wrestler. Orton would get an extended run as champion and Cena would in all likelihood eventually drop the title back to Triple H.

 

- However, it is unclear whether these initial plans are still intact because a lot of it was Paul Heyman’s proposals. Furthermore, Stephanie McMahon doesn’t favor John Cena as champ since she feels that he isn’t a good enough worker to be at the top and that his pops aren’t at championship levels.

 

- Keep in mind these are just talked about plans right now and could change at the flick of a switch.

this is great. but randy orton is 2 good 4 smackdown

[leper73]

I also don't favor the idea of Cena as WWE champ. He just got stale after a while. Part of this is, he doesn't come up with his own raps anymore; the writing team creates them for him and they aren't as good. Also, Cena's a good worker, but not a great one yet. I want to see where they go with JBL/Show first. Show, Taker, Eddie, and Booker all deserve it before Cena. I would add RVD to that list, but it's not realistic as 1) he's already involved in the tag scene (you mean there is one on Smackdown?) and 2) he keeps burying himself deeper in the doghouse, most recently refusing to go to Iraq. Reports say he won't be punished for this, but now management will look for reasons to say he screwed up and make further excuses not to push him.

[The Donald]

Big Show won't get the tittle. I think Undertaker will compet for it on thursday. Check Rajah.com for good rumor info. BTW:Did you know that Paul Bearer was backstage at RAW last night?

[leper73]

Just saw Lesnar signed on with New Japan for at least one show.

[Kevin_79]

Just saw Lesnar signed on with New Japan for at least one show.

How's that possible?

 

He has signed a no wrestle contract with the WWE saying that he can't sign with any other company for a full year after he quit WWE.

[The Donald]

No, he is going to make a "apperance".

[Werleman1]

Big Show won't get the tittle. I think Undertaker will compet for it on thursday. Check Rajah.com for good rumor info. BTW:Did you know that Paul Bearer was backstage at RAW last night?

yeah.

he lost 200 pounds becuz of surgery

[menace2sobriety]

Big Show won't get the tittle. I think Undertaker will compet for it on thursday. Check Rajah.com for good rumor info. BTW:Did you know that Paul Bearer was backstage at RAW last night?

Who cares, Paul Bearer is a bum. Ex employee's are backstage at shows all the time.

 

 

[The Donald]

Look what I found.

 

The plan right now is for Triple H to face Randy Orton for the title at Wrestlemania. It remains to be seen how Mick Foley, the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin will fit into the show as all three have expressed a desire to be involved in some capacity.

 

- As reported before, Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell and even Abdullah the Butcher were all at the Armageddon PPV. Luger and Vince McMahon did not even meet while Bagwell reportedly went into Vince’s office without even knocking which raised some eyebrows. It is not expected that Bagwell will be offered anything in the company.

 

- It appears as if Linda Miles was never actually fired. She stopped attending practice sessions and eventually called up John Laurinaitis and told him she was quitting the company.

[{Matty}{Vice}]

 

Look what I found.

 

The plan right now is for Triple H to face Randy Orton for the title at Wrestlemania. It remains to be seen how Mick Foley, the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin will fit into the show as all three have expressed a desire to be involved in some capacity.

 

- As reported before, Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell and even Abdullah the Butcher were all at the Armageddon PPV. Luger and Vince McMahon did not even meet while Bagwell reportedly went into Vince’s office without even knocking which raised some eyebrows. It is not expected that Bagwell will be offered anything in the company.

 

- It appears as if Linda Miles was never actually fired. She stopped attending practice sessions and eventually called up John Laurinaitis and told him she was quitting the company.

THe Rock should take a year out of hollywood to wrestle win the title, then loose it to Randy Orton after a few months (ie when the rokc quits again) That would be cool instead of just coming back for wrestlemanias.

 

and...next years PPV planner.

 

 

– Here is the current dates for upcoming WWE PPV’s in 2005:

 

January 9th: Raw’s New Year’s Revolution

January 30th: Raw and Smackdown Royal Rumble

February 20th: Smackdown’s No Way Out

April 3rd: Raw and Smackdown WrestleMania 21

May 1st: Raw’s Backlash

May 22nd: Smackdown’s Judgment Day

June 12th: Raw’s Bad Blood

June 26th: Smackdown’s The Great American Bash

July 24th: Raw’s Vengeance

August 21st: Raw and Smackdown Summerslam

September 18th: SmackDown’s Unforgiven

October 9th: Raw’s No Mercy

October 30th: Smackdown Untitled PPV

November 27th: Raw and Smackdown Survivor Series

December 18th: Raw’s Armageddon

 

Source: pwtorch.com

Edited December 29, 2004 by {Matty}{Vice}

[Phatgordo13]

Yah guys, we've seen that stuff. I know I posted a report but thats not something we do daily. We only quote that kinda stuff when its really important. We knew before Orton was leaving Evolution that it would be HHH vs Orton at WM 21.

 

Chill out with the quotes.

[Werleman1]

so if its gonna be orton+hhh who will be the winner of the elimination chamber

[Phatgordo13]

so if its gonna be orton+hhh who will be the winner of the elimination chamber

Its so up in the air. I think we've all been pretty torn here. Especially expecting outcomes of Batista vs HHH or Evolution break ups. Or Orton finally winning it. Y2J? Benoit? I mean it can go alot of ways logically.

[Kevin_79]

We don't need rumors, we can guess what happens way before it happens. We're the gurus of wrestling, but this Elimination Chamber is clouding my mind. I can't think of a victor. I can see Triple H winning, but I can also see Randy Orton or Batista winning. One of those three, and then one of the other two will win the royal rumble and take the title at Mania. I'd like to see Jericho win it, but I can't see it happening.

[Werleman1]

i would like it if they let someone from smackdown win and let raw do whatever they want with there title match at wrestlemania.

maybe let the rock compete for it.

[Kevin_79]

That's the stupidest idea ever. Let the Rock compete for it so he can leave a day later and still be champ? Hell no, I'd rather that someone win the rumble from RAW, because it hasn't been done since the brand extension.

[menace2sobriety]

Look what I found.

 

The plan right now is for Triple H to face Randy Orton for the title at Wrestlemania. It remains to be seen how Mick Foley, the Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin will fit into the show as all three have expressed a desire to be involved in some capacity.

 

- As reported before, Lex Luger, Buff Bagwell and even Abdullah the Butcher were all at the Armageddon PPV. Luger and Vince McMahon did not even meet while Bagwell reportedly went into Vince’s office without even knocking which raised some eyebrows. It is not expected that Bagwell will be offered anything in the company.

 

- It appears as if Linda Miles was never actually fired. She stopped attending practice sessions and eventually called up John Laurinaitis and told him she was quitting the company.

Quit saying you found this stuff, as if it isnt posted on Dozens of Websites..

 

 

 

i would like it if they let someone from smackdown win and let raw do whatever they want with there title match at wrestlemania.

maybe let the rock compete for it.

 

You have some ridiculous ideas, I disagree once again.

 

Like Kev said, nobody wants the Rock getting another month title reign, its not worth it. If he wants to come back fulltime, then all the power to him.

 

[Sir Smoke-A-Lot]

stevie richards for champ! you know hes good enough.

[The Donald]

What is the song for the Iraq thing? And the song for the recent PPv, I know it is called "End Is Near", who sings it, help.

[menace2sobriety]

What is the song for the Iraq thing? And the song for the recent PPv, I know it is called "End Is Near", who sings it, help.

That garbage song is called "Higher" by a horrible band that thankfully broke up, called Creed. The other song is by some other horrible Nu-metalish band that the WWE seems to get for nearly every new entrance theme

[Phatgordo13]

I hope at the Royal Rumble that they have alot of suprise entrences. Like....hmmm Pete Rose? Stone Cold? Just some random entrences to make you jump out of your seat. They normally do every year but last year was pretty weak.

[leper73]

 

stevie richards for champ!  you know hes good enough.

I'm a huge Stevie fan, but champ is a bit much right now. He's definitely an IC contender tho.

 

Guest appearances for the Rumble I'd like to see: Bret and DiBiase are no-brainers, but that's just sheer fantasy. Brock's got a .001% chance of happening, and besides, I'd rather he come in with more fanfare. Jake the Snake is another legend, but he's in too bad of shape due to his personal demons. Others I would jump out of my skin marking for are Ricky Steamboat, Marty Jannetty, Roddy Piper, AJ Styles, Jimmy Snuka, Koko B. Ware, and Vader. No non-wrestling celebs; I'm still shuddering over Drew Carey's Rumble appearance and David Arquette as WCW Champ. Doink the Clown is a maybe, but nobody could pull off the character like Matt Bourne (the original), and I don't think he's around to do it.

Edited December 30, 2004 by leper73

[{Matty}{Vice}]

I hope at the Royal Rumble that they have alot of suprise entrences. Like....hmmm Pete Rose? Stone Cold? Just some random entrences to make you jump out of your seat. They normally do every year but last year was pretty weak.

Last year they had Mick Foley and that was about it wasn't it.

[Werleman1]

you all are intitled to your opinions.

but that doesnt mean that everytime i post something all of you have to talk bad about me.

i said maybe let the rock compete for it.

and i think smackdown should win the RR because then raw can make a match with more then one person competing for the title at WM. thats just what i think.

 

I Wonder If Any Titles changed this "night of champions" they had tuesday

Edited December 30, 2004 by werleman1