GTA VI Speculation & Discussion - Part ∞ - The Leonida Drought

[The-Ghost]

3 hours ago, Ser_Salty said:

In regards to the E&E PC version, I could actually see that happening after GTA VI news. Just bundle it with an Online update on all platforms to include a new promotional treasure hunt for VI or something, put that into the E&E PC announcement, and use that hype to increase Online players again. After all, E&E PC is likely going to be a free update, so there's not that much financial incentive for them in it besides introducing GTA+ to PC.

It's interesting because they said it's coming "in the new year", and I take that as early 2025, meaning January to March or even April at most.

If they kick off VI's marketing in Feb, this new version of V in March, it should line up well.

[The-Ghost]

17 minutes ago, ElmoGreenfield said:

GTA VCS is definitely the most underappreciated GTA, at least for what it is and what it set out to do.

 

It deserves a top 3 spot in the GTA series in my book. 

It irks me that the Stories games aren't even considered mainline stuff, they never make it into general comparisons between the games, not even as a honorable mention.

 

I very much consider them as main entries.

[Agent Edward]

34 minutes ago, Bexter said:

it worked pretty well for them with trailer 1 and 2023 gtao winter dlc. why wouldnt they do it for other stuff as well (summer dlc at least) i mean they have to marked both anyway

The reason why I don't believe this theory much is because they haven't repeated the same strategy last year, releasing Trailer 2 and Agents of Sabotage right after it, but who knows...

 

23 minutes ago, The-Ghost said:

It irks me that the Stories games aren't even considered mainline stuff, they never make it into general comparisons between the games, not even as a honorable mention.

 

I very much consider them as main entries.

Not to mention those who considers them spin offs lol.

 

Edited January 14 by Agent Edward

[Pashaforever]

29 minutes ago, The-Ghost said:

It irks me that the Stories games aren't even considered mainline stuff, they never make it into general comparisons between the games, not even as a honorable mention.

 

I very much consider them as main entries.

I actually want to strangle every youtuber or video game "journalist" I come across who don't ever mention the Stories games and CTW.

[PolishRye]

1 hour ago, TonyRyodan said:

We are here

brother its been over a year, not a couple of months

[Retro_Causality]

3 hours ago, Getzmunney said:

Hope so. Hope you can actually pull your pistol from your clothing or ankle.

the leaks also talk about a book bag as well

[Ser_Salty]

3 minutes ago, Retro_Causality said:

the leaks also talk about a book bag as well

[NewCrossGate]

1 hour ago, Getzmunney said:

Hope so. Hope you can actually pull your pistol from your clothing or ankle.

One thing I noticed in the leaks was the word ‘holster’ on the weapon inventory/wheel. Makes me wonder if concealed holsters will actually be a thing. 
 

Maybe it’s an upgrade but until then handguns are concealed in waistbands. 

[Eternal Moonshine]

1 hour ago, Pashaforever said:

I actually want to strangle every youtuber or video game "journalist" I come across who don't ever mention the Stories games and CTW.

In Digital Foundry's recent coverage of the GTA III Dreamcast port, John mentioned Liberty City Stories. He even expressed optimism about the possibility of bringing LCS to the Dreamcast as well. People remember those games 

[mdqmatias]

I was talking about this on Twitter, what do you guys think?

 

Imo, Rockstar should implement some kind of block on physical copies of VI when it comes out. Something that doesn't allow you to run the game until the exact date and time it's released digitally. That means it needs an internet connection at least that one time.

 

I remember that in 2013 there were a lot of people who had a physical copy weeks before the release of V, I even knew someone who had the copy 3 days before for his Xbox 360 just because the owner of a Gamestop-style store was his friend.

 

At that time, virality on YouTube or social media wasn't so common and although there were people who uploaded gameplays, there wasn't as much risk of being spoiled, but now it's very different.

 

I hope they implement something like a block or that they send the physical copies to the stores a few days later, I hope they take this into account knowing that there are a lot of people who will want to play VI on the day it comes out without being spoiled.

[Yoona]

9 minutes ago, mdqmatias said:

I was talking about this on Twitter, what do you guys think?

 

Imo, Rockstar should implement some kind of block on physical copies of VI when it comes out. Something that doesn't allow you to run the game until the exact date and time it's released digitally. That means it needs an internet connection at least that one time.

 

I remember that in 2013 there were a lot of people who had a physical copy weeks before the release of V, I even knew someone who had the copy 3 days before for his Xbox 360 just because the owner of a Gamestop-style store was his friend.

 

At that time, virality on YouTube or social media wasn't so common and although there were people who uploaded gameplays, there wasn't as much risk of being spoiled, but now it's very different.

 

I hope they implement something like a block or that they send the physical copies to the stores a few days later, I hope they take this into account knowing that there are a lot of people who will want to play VI on the day it comes out without being spoiled.

Blocks meaning incomplete data on the disc is a horrible idea. Same goes with some time restricting DRM that would remain on these discs (if it's even possible)

 

It would be better to just delay physical versions by a few weeks after digital only time zone based launch.

 

I personally would have an issue since I want every R* game on the disc, but then I'd be pretty much forced to buy digital to play on day one. But then again they may want to prevent physical copies being stolen or sold early.

Edited January 14 by Yoona

[WellingtonSwain]

1 hour ago, Ser_Salty said:

A bald Dan H. Is always welcome in these forums. 

[mdqmatias]

5 minutes ago, Yoona said:

Blocks meaning incomplete data on the disc is a horrible idea. Same goes with some time restricting DRM that would remain on these discs (if it's even possible)

 

It would be better to just delay physical versions by a few weeks after digital only time zone based launch.

 

I personally would have an issue since I want every R* game on the disc, but then I'd be pretty much forced to buy digital to play on day one. But then again they may want to prevent physical copies being stolen or sold early.

It doesn't necessarily mean incomplete data, you can for example force those who have a physical copy to download a digital activator and then after the release date you delete it and that's it.

 

Something that prevents that from happening without having to do the thing of having the physical copies arrive days later to the stores, I think something has to be done.

 

There will always be someone who surely knows how to decrypt those disks, avoid the blocking, etc., but it won't be the majority.

[DGSimo]

13 minutes ago, mdqmatias said:

I was talking about this on Twitter, what do you guys think?

 

Imo, Rockstar should implement some kind of block on physical copies of VI when it comes out. Something that doesn't allow you to run the game until the exact date and time it's released digitally. That means it needs an internet connection at least that one time.

 

I remember that in 2013 there were a lot of people who had a physical copy weeks before the release of V, I even knew someone who had the copy 3 days before for his Xbox 360 just because the owner of a Gamestop-style store was his friend.

 

At that time, virality on YouTube or social media wasn't so common and although there were people who uploaded gameplays, there wasn't as much risk of being spoiled, but now it's very different.

 

I hope they implement something like a block or that they send the physical copies to the stores a few days later, I hope they take this into account knowing that there are a lot of people who will want to play VI on the day it comes out without being spoiled.

Rockstar don't need to, their handling of the physical release for RDR2 was pretty impressive considering retailers didn't seem to get copies until 48 to 72 hours to release.

 

The only leaks seem to come from the strategy guide and press outlets with review copies but Rockstar knew who leaked anything from those and took action including sending investigators to their homes. lol

 

 

[Yoona]

8 minutes ago, mdqmatias said:

It doesn't necessarily mean incomplete data, you can for example force those who have a physical copy to download a digital activator and then after the release date you delete it and that's it.

 

Something that prevents that from happening without having to do the thing of having the physical copies arrive days later to the stores, I think something has to be done.

 

There will always be someone who surely knows how to decrypt those disks, avoid the blocking, etc., but it won't be the majority.

You can't delete anything after release from your own PS5/XSX disc, and neither can Rockstar.

Edited January 14 by Yoona

[DUNK512]

40 minutes ago, mdqmatias said:

I was talking about this on Twitter, what do you guys think?

 

Imo, Rockstar should implement some kind of block on physical copies of VI when it comes out. Something that doesn't allow you to run the game until the exact date and time it's released digitally. That means it needs an internet connection at least that one time.

 

I remember that in 2013 there were a lot of people who had a physical copy weeks before the release of V, I even knew someone who had the copy 3 days before for his Xbox 360 just because the owner of a Gamestop-style store was his friend.

 

At that time, virality on YouTube or social media wasn't so common and although there were people who uploaded gameplays, there wasn't as much risk of being spoiled, but now it's very different.

 

I hope they implement something like a block or that they send the physical copies to the stores a few days later, I hope they take this into account knowing that there are a lot of people who will want to play VI on the day it comes out without being spoiled.

Just get off the net bro

[Spider-Vice]

2 hours ago, PolishRye said:

brother its been over a year, not a couple of months

They're talking about the "believing fake news" cycle. People getting hyped up over nothing. Not official news.

 

34 minutes ago, DGSimo said:

Rockstar don't need to, their handling of the physical release for RDR2 was pretty impressive considering retailers didn't seem to get copies until 48 to 72 hours to release.

 

The only leaks seem to come from the strategy guide and press outlets with review copies but Rockstar knew who leaked anything from those and took action including sending investigators to their homes. lol

 

 

We had the legendary "YMEP" leaks (from Russian copies of RDR2) but even those were only a few days before release. I do feel like it's more possible to lock down physical copies these days vs. 10 years ago.

[REVENGE777]

2 hours ago, Pashaforever said:

I actually want to strangle every youtuber or video game "journalist" I come across who don't ever mention the Stories games and CTW.

I saw a YouTube video that was supposed to be a comprehensive history of the 3D era gta games, but the poster mentioned he wasn’t going to include vice city stories or liberty city stories, and I immediately dismissed the video.

 

edit: here’s the video.

Not a poorly made video, but when you purposely leave out content that is relevant to the larger context of what your covering, it rubs me the wrong way.

Edited January 15 by REVENGE777

[Jason]

Leaks aren't that big of a deal that we should ask for DRM on our physical versions of games, lmao.

[Ser_Salty]

If they do a global release instead of local midnight, which is what I'd hope for and also kinda expect, I hope it's a time friendly to europeans and not releasing at, like, 3 am for me. Though if it does, I will absolutely f*ck my sleeping schedule up accordingly. But I just hope it comes out at like 3pm or something here. Gives me a couple hours between release and getting up. You know, to prepare. Buy snacks, get some takeout, load the dishwasher and stuff.

 

Also still have no idea if I'm gonna get physical. On the one hand, I want a physical version. On the other, digital is guaranteed playtime on release, no delays in the post gonna keep me from the game (I have like zero experience pre-ordering physical stuff, too young and poor before it all went digital). On the other *other* hand, physical might potentially maybe give me early access by a day (or even just 10 hours). Though I'd be surprised if they don't find a way to block that.

[Malolaat]

25 minutes ago, Spider-Vice said:

We had the legendary "YMEP" leaks (from Russian copies of RDR2) but even those were only a few days before release. I do feel like it's more possible to lock down physical copies these days vs. 10 years ago.

I remember a crazy situation when Playstation made the game available to players from Europe (or something like that) through pre-loading GTAV.

Rockstar then warned about spoilers and announced that GTAV went gold.
It was how long, I think 3 weeks before the premiere?

 

I wonder when GTAVI will go gold, and whether Rockstar will brag about it because from what I know nothing was known about RDR2 being gold, and now many studios are announcing that the game development is finished

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Ser_Salty said:

If they do a global release instead of local midnight, which is what I'd hope for and also kinda expect

 

A European hoping for a global release instead of a rolling midnight launch. 

 

I feel like us European's get f*cked by them more often than not lol, Americans get the game a day "early" while we get them at midnight. Or America gets them at midnight and we get them in the middle of the morning.

 

Rolling launches are, IMO, the best and fairest.

[Ser_Salty]

Just now, Jason said:

 

A European hoping for a global release instead of a rolling midnight launch. 

 

I feel like us European's get f*cked by them more often than not lol, Americans get the game a day "early" while we get them at midnight. Or America gets them at midnight and we get them in the middle of the morning.

 

Rolling launches are, IMO, the best and fairest.

Rolling midnight launch f*cks everyone equally

 

Uh, Xbox was the one that you just had to set your timezone to NZ, right? Asking for a friend.

[Jisoo]

Im definitely getting the physical copy, but I would really want the steelbook/special edition if possible and usually the stores in Norway doesnt have them in stock at their actual stores so you need to order it online. I got burnt by that with Horizon Forbidden West where the special edition I ordered didnt arrive on friday and instead I had to wait until monday evening to play the game. I wouldnt be able to handle that wait with GTA VI lol

 

Black Ops 2 and 3 back in 2012/2015 I actually got a day before launch while the other games I pre ordered all came on launch day

 

 

Edited January 15 by Jisoo

[Ser_Salty]

Just now, Jisoo said:

Im definitely getting the physical copy, but I would really want the steelbook/special edition if possible and usually the stores in Norway doesnt have them in stock at their actual stores so you need to order it online. I got burnt by that with Horizon Forbidden West where the special edition I ordered didnt arrive on friday and instead I had to wait until monday evening to play the game. I wouldnt be able to handle that wait with GTA VI lol

If I saw that delay notification I'd be getting the digital version instantly

[Jason]

24 minutes ago, Ser_Salty said:

Rolling midnight launch f*cks everyone equally

 

That's one way to look at it, lol. The other way would be that it's the fairest model in terms of everyone getting treated the same, or "f*cked over" the same . Again, if they do a global midnight launch in GMT then American gets the game effectively a day early, and most European's won't play it until the next day altogether. It's just eh.

 

27 minutes ago, Ser_Salty said:

Uh, Xbox was the one that you just had to set your timezone to NZ, right? Asking for a friend.

 

Yes, but recently their launches have been global launches rather than rolling midnight launches, likely because for w/e reason they've finally changed their mind on that.

[Pat]

7 hours ago, Ser_Salty said:

It's not even the control schemes for me, it's just the way aiming feels. A lot of games feel like they keep moving even when you've stopped moving the stick. Or move the reticle way too much when you just nudge the stick. Like I said, might be something I could tweak in the settings with deadzones and sensitivity and stuff, but GTA and RDR2 just feel good out of the box.

I think it comes down to the fact that GTA V and RDR2 let you customize both aim/look sensitivity and aim/look acceleration, which I feel like I've never seen in any other AAA third person shooters. In both games whenever I play them with a controller, I tend to put the sensitivity very high or just max it out entirely and only put a few ticks into acceleration, and I feel like that gives me the best results. If I could, I'd forego acceleration entirely, but even with maxed out sensitivity both games become far too sluggish without any acceleration at all.

 

One really nice thing about Steam's controller support nowadays is that you can actually replicate this in games that normally use a fixed acceleration for controllers by setting the right analog stick to instead emulate mouse input. I know it sounds weird at first (and potentially reminiscent of games doing the opposite and emulating analog stick input for mouse input, which is f*cking awful), but a couple years ago I replayed Mafia 3 with a controller using that setting and found it significantly more enjoyable compared to the normal analog input. It entirely removes the acceleration, and in Mafia 3's case, it removed the built in aim assistance that normally cannot be removed. I imagine removing acceleration from analog input sounds counterintuitive to most people, but for me, I can't stress enough how much better it felt.

 

It doesn't work for every game (I remember trying it for GTA V and having issues with the game rapidly getting confused about whether I was using KB&M or controller whenever I held L2 to aim or brake/reverse in vehicles), but it's worth trying for anything that has subpar aim/look sensitivity and acceleration by default.

Edited January 15 by Pat

[Dick Justice]

I think they'll do a rolling midnight launch rather than having a global launch time. It only effects digital purchases anyway because as far as brick-and-mortar stores are concerned, the release date is the release date. I would also prefer a midnight launch Australia time because it means I get to play quicker. I am not biased at all. 

[Retro_Causality]

 I’m probably gonna buy a digital copy that will be pre-loaded and ready to go at midnight while also getting the physical collectors edition. Definitely doing a midnight launch 

Edited January 15 by Retro_Causality

[Johnb17]

Physical all day, just remember how they messed with the graphics on RDR 2 after a few updates. Keep that blu ray disc just to roll back to 1.0 just in case