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  1. Based on the popular Mapping LC and Mapping LS threads, the mapmaking thread is back for RDR2! The aim is to get an idea of real-world locations within the game, and hopefully recreate the in-game map, using official trailers and screenshots. Scenes in order: @jaredk_ has made a 3D map, check their post out! Apparent leaked map:
  2. TheLordMarvel

    RDR2 Screenshot Thread

    RDR2 is officially out now in Australia and New Zealand, and with it fast approaching the US, UK, and more. I thought (with help from a Spider. ) now would be a good time to get this thread rolling. This will be a general screenshot thread. Anything pertaining to wildlife should be posted in the wildlife thread. So! Let's see those vistas, trains, or even pretty boi himself.
  3. The title says it all. I have always wanted to do a list of the changes and errors between the first two Redemption games, mostly because these are my favorite games of all time, but also because I loved the stories. I am surprised that there hasn't been a list dedicated to this so I guess it's up to me. Alright, here we go: -To start out simple, John going to New Austin. In the first game, John tells Bonnie that he and his gang never went to the New Austin state. While true for the gang (except for Dutch and Hosea), John has canonically been there twice, once with Sadie and once with Jeremy Gill. -John also tells Bonnie that he has been farming for three years (1908). The GOTY guidebook for RDR1 states that he has been trying to farm for three years. Yet in RDR2, he gets his farm in 1907. -The MacFarlane barn is not there in RDR2, despite Bonnie telling John that her father built the barn when she was a little girl. Even if you say that the New Austin map was made for 1899, that would make her 15, hardly qualifies for a little girl. -In the first game, a couple of newspapers mention that Dutch was thought to have died in a fire after a bungled robbery in 1906. Yet in RDR2's epilogue, which takes place in 1907, this bungled robbery is not mentioned. The newspaper also mentions that he has been on the run since 1899 and that law enforcement is still searching for him, even though he is thought to be dead according to the first game. -The Strange Man implies that the robbery where Dutch shoots the girl was the same robbery John got shot and left behind on, judging by the tone of his voice when he says "same one you got shot on". Yet in RDR2, the ferry robbery happened at the beginning of the game, and John was left behind during a train heist. -John tells Landon Ricketts about an event where Dutch went out and "shot a bunch of people unfair like". This event is never seen nor mentioned in Red Dead Redemption 2. -During "Gates of El Presidio", John's says something to Javier along the lines of "What you and Dutch did was wrong, and the way you left me was wrong". Not "You left me and that was wrong" but "What you and Dutch did was wrong". What exactly did Javier and Dutch do? Did it have anything to do with the event above? -In the same mission, Javier alludes to John's daughter by saying "I hope you, your wife and your children rot in hell", suggesting that she was alive during John's time in the gang. She is never seen nor mentioned in RDR2. -John implies that no one in the gang cared for him and that they left him as soon as they had the chance. John even tells Landon Ricketts that "they all gone crazy anyhow". Yet in RDR2, Arthur and Sadie help John and his family get out of the gang and Charles even helps John build the house in Beecher's Hope. They only gang members who opposed John were Micah, Dutch, Bill, Javier, and if you stretch it, Joe and Cleet. I wanted to put up the Blackwater Massacre, since the wiki states that 37 people died during the massacre, 22 outlaws and 15 police/civilians. However, I read all the newspapers in the first game, the only references to the massacre are from the articles concerning Landon Ricketts, who survived the massacre. My question is, where did the wiki get the body count? Is it from some in-game dialogue or from some RDR 1 website? Or is it another fallacy that the wiki created that has no actual bearing in-game. It wouldn't be the first time.
  4. This topic is for investigate the mysterys founded through the roaming.
  5. As you may know, we've had a huge topic for GTA Online. Now it's time for RDR2! Maybe you have some fun facts to share or just want to read about facts. Some things I didnt know until now. You can't sell items wearing a bandana. The shopkeeper will threaten you until you take it off. The law hates bandanas. Putting one on in front of a lawman and ignoring him will result in you having a $5 bounty set on you.

    The RDR2 Beta Hunt

    I'm Starting The Official Red Dead Redemption 2 Beta Hunt First Off Charles Hair Is Different In The Final Game. It Was Different As Seen In The First Official Artwork And In Trailers 1 And 2 The Infamous Scene From Trailer 2 Where Arthur Yells "Where's Our Money!" Is Different In The Mission (not showing for spoilers) (Different Audio/Different Take) Javier Had A Beard At One Point As Seen In Trailer 2 The Number 2 In The Logo Was Changed To Roman Numerals Next Year When The PC Version Comes Out Things Should Get Really Interesting
  7. Tonesta

    Top Five Favourite Missions

    Surprised this topic hasn't come up yet......so figured I'd start it! For me: 1) Red Dead Redemption. The grandaddy of all emotional roller coasters. The final Van Horn shootout with Sadie; Milton's reveal and death; goodbye to Abigail; Arthur's last ride; the Mexican standoff at Beaver Hollow; your horse's death (😭); goodbye to John; scrapping with Micah; the final appeal to Dutch and then Arthur's last sunrise. The game play may have been so-so, but the story was next level epic and anyone who wasn't moved by it, doesn't have a soul! 2) A New South. A fun little chase and scrap scene through (for me at least) the new territory of Rhodes and then some fishing and bonding with Dutch & Hosea. The happiest point in the story and a great ode to friendship.....before it all went to hell 3) Pouring Forth Oil. My favourite of the many train robberies. Good preamble and preparation; great (if borrowed) cinematics, and then a fun shootout through the train. 4) Sodom? Back to Gomorrah. Great, self-contained heist mission. Fun interactions with Karen & Bill, a genuine sense of tension whilst cracking the safes and then a fun shootout on the way home. Followed by the scene at Downes Ranch that at the time felt a little odd, but gave Arthur a chance to use some of his meanest one liners. Only later did it make more sense......... 5) A Quiet Time. Suspect this is a marmite mission. You either loved it or you hated it. Personally, I thought it was frickin' hilarious! Honorable mentions for Goodbye, Dear Friend & Advertising: The New American Art, both of which I also loved but which were just not quite long enough to supplant the above 5!
  8. After seven long gruelling months, "Arena War" is now behind us and a new location opens, the Diamond Casino & Resort! With it, a whole new, long and drawn-out dripfeed begins. As its predecessors did, this thread aims to be a comprehensive and fully complete catalogue of every piece of content that this update contains and that awaits to be released to the masses, from cars to new game modes and collectibles. Database Contents (Open this spoiler if this thread seems too intimidating and you'd like some help in finding where each section is and what it is about.) Complete List Of Locked Items (A comprehensive compilation of everything still locked away in the game files. This list includes content added in the "Doomsday Heist", "After Hours", "Arena War", "Diamond Casino & Resort" and even older updates.) Diamond Casino & Resort 1 vehicle, 1 game mode + King Of The Hill and survival creator tools and 18 t-shirts. Doomsday Heist 151 livery unlocks (10 liveries unlockable for 21 vehicles and 5 liveries unlockable for 1 vehicle). After Hours 221 livery unlocks (10 liveries unlockable for 25 vehicles) and 34 t-shirts. Arena War 43 t-shirts and Arena Premium Races. Older Updates 17 t-shirts + 1 Jock Cranley Suit + 1 bodysuit In Total 1 vehicle, 114 items of clothing, 372 livery unlocks, 1 game mode, King Of The Hill and survival creator tools. Unreleased Vehicles (Vehicles awaiting release, numbered by their website order.) DISCLAIMER: WEBSITE ORDER. DOES NOT. MATTER. (As proven in past updates.) Credit for most of the vehicle screenshots goes to @BrandonBTYB. Bravado Gauntlet Classic photo credit goes to @JoonasPRKL. Legendary Motorsport Vysser Neo RELEASED Price: $1.875.000 Class: Sports Progen Emerus RELEASED Price: $2.750.000 Class: Super Ocelot Locust RELEASED Price: $1.625.000 Class: Sports Benefactor Krieger RELEASED Price: $2.875.000 Class: Super Ocelot Jugular RELEASED Price: $1.225.000 Class: Sports Pegassi Zorrusso RELEASED Price: $1.925.000 Class: Super Western Rampant Rocket RELEASED Price: $925.000 Class: Motorcycles Lampadati Novak RELEASED Price: $608.000 Class: SUV Southern San Andreas Super Autos Bravado Gauntlet Classic RELEASED Price: $615.000 Class: Muscle Vulcar Nebula Turbo RELEASED Price: $797.000 Class: Sports Classics Bravado Gauntlet Hellfire RELEASED Price: $745.000 Class: Muscle Übermacht Zion Classic RELEASED Price: $812.000 Class: Sports Classic Annis Hellion RELEASED Price: $835.000 Class: Off-Road Weeny Dynasty RELEASED Price: $450.000 Class: Sports Classic Vapid Peyote Gasser UNRELEASED Price: $805.000 Class: Muscle Vehicle Customization Videos (Credit: @BrandonBTYB - His YouTube Channel + Gauntlet Customization Video by Its Neiyuuki) Here's how the websites will look like once the dripfeed is complete: Unreleased Game Modes/Creator (Strings discovered by @WildBrick142 point towards new Time Trials and new RC Bandito Time Trials, as well as others found by @Fun 2 suggest that a new Arena game mode called King Of The Hill and a Survival Creator could be made available for players) New Time Trials UNAVAILABLE (Credits: Names and splash screen images: @WildBrick142; Time requirements and coordinates: @Fun 2) New RC Bandito Time Trials AVAILABLE (Credits: Names and splash screen images: @WildBrick142.) New Survivals (Seven new survival maps with new enemies, mechanics, payout system and settings.) AVAILABLE King Of The Hill (New PvP mode.) AVAILABLE Alien Invasion Survivals (Discovery Credit: The Game File Gurus.) AVAILABLE Survival Creator UNAVAILABLE King Of The Hill Creator UNAVAILABLE The strings: New Time Trials and new RC Bandito Time Trials, credit to @WildBrick142: Arena King Of The Hill and Survival Creator, credit to @Fun 2: Collectibles Gift Clothing (Clothing items awarded as bonuses, to be released at Rockstar's discretion. Initial list by @Fun 2, screenshots by @WildBrick142 and the Rockstar Newswire. All the arcade shirts screenshots by @Volganor.) Action Figures (Collect 100 Action Figures to unlock Impotent Rage's outfit - credit to FoxySnaps and @Classique) AVAILABLE Peyote Plants (A string found by @WildBrick142 indicate that the consumption of Peyote Plants to transform players into animals, from Story Mode, may be making its way Online) AVAILABLE Tattoos RELEASED Penthouse Decorations and Art Information on the decorations and art currently for sale at the exclusive casino store. Imgur Album of all Penthouse Wall Art Imgur Album of all Penthouse Decorations ALL PENTHOUSE DECORATIONS AND ART HAVE BEEN UP FOR SALE. Casino Store Clothing (Video Credits: FoxySnaps) ALL OF THE CLOTHING HAS BEEN UP FOR SALE. TO RECAP Vehicles Legendary Motorsport Neo Emerus Locust Krieger Jugular Zorrusso Rampant Rocket Novak Southern San Andreas Super Autos (6/7) Gauntlet Classic Nebula Turbo Gauntlet Hellfire Zion Classic Hellion Dynasty Peyote Gasser Unreleased Game Modes/Creator Additions (4/7) New Time Trials New RC Bandito Time Trials New Survivals King Of The Hill Alien Invasion Surivals Survival Creator King Of The Hill Creator Tools Collectibles Gift Clothing (8/26) The Diamond Classic Tee The Diamond Vintage Tee Red The Diamond LS Tee Red The Diamond Resort Tee Blue D Casino Tee Red The Diamond Classic Tee Black Street Crimes Icons Tee Choose Your Side Tee Claim What's Yours Tee Invade and Persuade Barrels Tee Invade and Persuade Boxart Tee Invade and Persuade Gold Tee Invade and Persuade Hero Tee Invade and Persuade Invader Tee Invade and Persuade Jets Tee Invade and Persuade Logo Tee Invade and Persuade Suck Tee Mission I Mission II Mission III Mission IV Street Crimes Boxart Tee Street Crimes Color Gangs Tee Street Crimes Logo Tee Street Crimes Red Gangs Tee White Street Crimes Icons Tee Miscellaneous Action Figures Peyote Plants Tattoos Penthouse Decorations, Art And Casino Store Clothing On Sale Dripfeed Strings (Notice messages received on the upper left corner of the screen notifying the player of the release of new items on either websites or stores.) Credit: @WildBrick142 Special Thanks To: FoxySnaps, for vehicle prices, model images, finished car seller website screenshots, videos on all clothing items plus peyote plants, information on the Action Figures and image of two unreleased tattoos; @WildBrick142 for model images, screenshots of unreleased special t-shirts, strings related to the dripfeed and the new time trials, new RC Bandito time trials and peyote plants, as well as the names of said new time and RC Bandito time trials, plus splash screens and just for being awesome in general; @Fun 2 for the discovery of strings that suggest one new game mode and a survival creator as part of the dripfeed, time requirements and coordinates for the new time trials as well as a list of log-in gift t-shirts; @BrandonBTYB for all vehicle screenshots and customization videos, sans Bravado Gauntlet Classic; @JoonasPRKL for the Bravado Gauntlet Classic photo and Its Neiyuuki for its customization video; @MARINA for all vehicle classes; @Classique for information on the Impotent Rage Action Figures; The Game File Gurus for the discovery of the Alien Invasion Survival; @NaheemH786 for gathering the initial dripfeed mask screenshots (thanks, buddy!); (In alphabetical order:) @IceDree, @MeisterJazz, @Standard Deluxe 59 and @Willy A. Jeep for the vehicle appreciation threads; @Gaffa for invaluable thread formatting tips; @Razor Cola for the original Unreleased Vehicles Database thread concept. Database Changelog Got comments, information or want to point out something I missed? Feel free to enrich this database.
  9. Wingate167

    Thoughts about Francis Sinclair

    Last week, I completed the "Geology for Beginners" mission. I do figure Francis Sinclair was time traveling, but I'm curious as to what his mission was? We do give him the coordinates for the carving, but when we go back to the cabin, it shows he was an infant in 1899 and his father died when he's with his mother. What do you think the purpose of his time travel was?
  10. We gotta get ready for the GTA V syndrome already. People getting disappointed because what they see is not what they imagined just by reading a simple sentence.
  11. Hello. PLEASE DON'T PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL SPOILERS IN THE DISCUSSION, I ONLY WANNA KNOW THE INFORMATION SPECIFIED LATER IN THE THREAD. I played RDR back in the day and fortunately I didn't have the ending spoiled, so it was pretty surprising (in a good way). Today (which was supposed to be a good day, given the announcement of the PC version) I got a spoiler.... I'm very excited to finally play RDR2, on my PC, but an A**hole spoiled the fact that the protagonist dies (don't know if it's actually true). To be fair, the fact that Arthur isn't ever mentioned in RDR 1 already made me think that the overall arch of the story (for the prequel) would end up with Arthur going away from the gang or being killed... Anyways, I was wondering if you think this information will completely destroy my enjoyment of the main story, as I literally don't know anything else (except was was mentioned in RDR1 of course). PLEASE DON'T PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL SPOILERS IN THE DISCUSSION, I ONLY WANNA KNOW THE AFOREMENTIONED INFORMATION. Thank you very much
  12. D3VIL1


  13. So is there a way for John Marston to get access to Arthur's horses, money, and other stuff? Losing all your horses and money is a bit of a dick move tbh.
  14. Cutter De Blanc

    Best/Funniest quotes

    I'll start off "What kind of a man lives by the sea, I ask you!? The kind of man who lives where his wife tells him. Hahahahahah... Ain't no woman ever told me nothin', except 'make yourself scarce,' and that about suits me fine." -MIcah Bell
  15. Horley is the mastermind behind Mr. LeClerks death the whole time? I've noticed that he always tries to convinced Mrs. LeClerk not to take any revenge towards those involved and he was a little too eager to kill Teddy Brown (The guy in the armor.) before he could reveal anymore details and potentially rat him out as being behind the murder. The next set of missions will definitely involve us hunting down Grace Lansing and I think that towards the end she will reveal that it was Horley who orchestrated the death of Mr. LeClerk.
  16. A couple of months ago I submitted a ticket to Rockstar support about this and they said they understood the issue and will forward it to the developers but nothing has been done yet so I thought I'd share this with you as well. I think we've all noticed that John's length 2 natural facial hair is almost completely identical to his length 1. It's pretty much invisible except for a few dots of hair here and there, as you can see here... And here is what it looks like during gameplay, basically identical except for a few dots of hair scattered here and there. When you compare that to Arthur's Length 1 and 2, you'll see that there is a vast difference between the two lengths. At first I thought this might have been a design choice but then I was playing as Arthur recently with his length 2 facial hair, I died and when I respawned Arthur's beard glitched to look just like John's length 2 beard, invisible except for a few dots of hair scattered around, pretty much identical to his length 1. I figured if it was a glitch for Arthur it's probably a glitch for John as well. I was able to make it go back to normal by just sitting Arthur down in a barbers chair but the same fix doesn't work for John. This only applies to the natural style facial hair as John's pencil mustache length 2, double forked length 2 and dundreary sideburns length 2 all look very visible. To clear up any confusion, I'm talking about length 2 in the trim menu at the barbers and at shaving mirrors. When you select the individual styles from the style menu at the barbers it's length 1. It's a shame because Arthur's length 2 looks the most like John's facial hair from the first game. John's level 3 looks much too thick. As I said I already told Rockstar support about this a couple of months ago but I wanted to share it with you here in case any of you were bothered by this and wanted submit your own tickets.
  17. nb2010


    Hey guys, possible spoiler so disregard this if you want. The one where trevor meets that women who flipped her car in the middle of the freeway. I stopped to read all the dialogue between the two and shortly after she died from her wounds. Just wondered whether its worth redoing that one to find out what happens if i get her to destination on time. Thanks in advance.
  18. Skill Level and Arena Points What do they do, and what do they unlock? Arena Points (AP): What is Arena Points? AP is something that is granted to a player, like RP, after a round of Arena Wars, but only if you have an Arena Workshop. If you do not own an Arena Workshop, RP will be awarded instead. Everytime you level up with AP, you get a "sponsorship reward", which will grant you a random "discount" for a random outfit, random vehicle or random vehicle upgrade from the Arena Wars update. The discount varies depending if it's a vehicle, outfit, or a modification to a vehicle. You still get AP from losing Arena Wars, but around ~30% less than what you could get if you win. Can you get Arena Points in another way? Yes you can! But it may cost ya'. In most Arena Modes, when you die to an opponent, or commit suicide, you sometimes get a free "Spin to Win", which is a randomizer that awards you anything between Power Ups, AP, RP, and even GTA dollars. Tunables also affect Spin to Win, so that means if Rockstar has made Arena Wars pay double money and RP, it will also be applied to the Spin to Win feature. Once you're at the Spectator Room, you can play Spin to Win again at the big round table, but this time it will cost you $5000 in-game dollars to do. Either you win more than you paid ($6000-$10000), some RP, some AP, or Power Ups. Wait, isn't that borderline gambling? Technically, yes, yes it is. Moving on... Skill Level (SkL) What is Skill Level exactly? Skill Level is also a progress bar, but it's semi-hidden from the player. It works in another... odd way. You start as Skill Level 0 at the very start after you've purchased an Arena Workshop. After you've won your first Arena War, it will permanently increase to Level 1, and will stay at Level 1, and cannot decrease from there. You can see your current Skill Level middle-right on the board inside your office in the Arena Workshop. You cannot view your progress to your next level - only your current level. Also, to avoid confusion; The Skill Level you see when another player wins an Arena War is THAT persons' Skill Level, NOT yours! How do you level up more? Simple; win Arena Wars. Or, well... Not that simple, actually. Your level determines how many matches (NOT rounds!) you need to win to level up your Skill Level. Here's the math if you start at Skill Level 1: (xLevel + 1) = Won matches needed to next Skill Level Where xLevel represents your current Skill Level. Simplified: 2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20 = 209 (+1 if you go from Level 0 to 1 after you've freshly bought the Areana Workshop). The max Skill Level there is is Level 20. So with that being proven; you need to win 209 (or 210) times in a row to unlock Skill Level 20 the fastest. Playing rounds of Arena War does not contribute directly to your Skill Level progress, but will help you win the match, which does count towards it. Can my Skill Level decrease? Unfortunately, yes. Everytime you lose a match, your Skill Level will decrease. It will also count as a loss if you leave an Arena War round or match mid-game. This means that it's borderline impossible to reach Skill Rank 20 in a legit way. As explained above, there's a "hidden" progress bar for the Skill Level. So if you lose a match, you have to win another match to get to the progress you were on before. So it literally goes like this: Winning a Match = +1 point towards the maximum 210 points Losing a Match = -1 point towards the maximum 210 points In theory, "Skill Level" doesn't mean anything. If you reach 210 points out of 210, you will obtain Skill Level 20. If I have more teammates on my team, will I earn/lose more SkL points if we win/lose? Unfortunately (and fortunately), no. Skill Level is an individual stat, and cannot be multiplied if there are mutiple players on your team. However, if you all win/lose, all your teammates will have their Skill Rank progress increased/decreased, depending on the outcome of the game. Does Skill Level actually prove how good I am, and not how lucky I am to be with a team that plays good? lmao no. Is there an easy way I can boost my Skill Level up quicker, so that I don't have to socialize with animals in Arena War? There is! But you need to have a friend with you. Your friend let you win matches over him 209 (or 210) times in a row (remember, rounds does NOT count! It has to be matches). It will likely take several upon several hours or days to complete, so only do this if you have the patience. But to be honest, how else can you unlock Skill Level 20 without stumbling upon a team riddled with AFK'ers, suiciders, and pay-to-win user vehicles? Screw that. Start grinding. If you wish, you can drop your PSN/XBox/Social club name here, if you wish to hook up with someone willing to help out. Just remember, don't be "that guy" who gets to Rank 20 and then deletes their partner without helping them. Don't do that. That's sh*tty. Extremely sh*tty. What's the rewards for reaching a specific AP Level or Skill Level? These are the rewards for unlocking Skill Levels: For each Skill Level, you will get awarded a Platinum Award and a small amount of cash that increases for each level. Being able to purchase the Go Go Monkey Blista for free once you reach Level 20. The option to buy the Go Go Monkey Blista will permanently be added to the in-game website SouthernSanAndreasSuperAutos.com, and will still stay if you drop below Skill Level 20 again. These are the rewards for unlocking AP Levels: For each AP Level (also called "Sponsorships") you get, you will unlock a trade-price for a random Arena War vehicle, Arena War outfit, or an Arena War modification to a specific vehicle. The discounted prices vary a lot. When you get to AP level X, you will unlock: Level 25 - Taxi Level 50 - HVY Dozer Level 75 - Clown Van Level 100 - Trashmaster Level 200 - HVY Barracks Semi Level 300 - HVY Mixer Level 500 - Space Docker Level 1000 - Tractor (the rusty old hag. Yeeeah, that tractor.) Is this otherwise a stupid mechanic that should actually have proven your actual skill in Arena Wars, and not be determined of how many wins you get in a row? Should it? Possibly. Should R* change it? Maybe. Hotel? Trivago. I would like to thank @irish.chr, @WildBrick142, @Fun 2, @StangOne50 and the people brave and hungry enough to find out the secrets behind the stats for Skill Level and AP Levels. You're all awesome!
  19. Joey The Homie

    Car Meet late night from Men In Paradise

    Hey guys my psn name is JoeyTheHomie If you are interested to chill and show off your fabulous rides feel free to message me and I WILL invite you to impress and have fun:) thanks from Men In Paradise
  20. White Shark


    I really liked Vincent in this game. A really nice guy and a likable character - which is saying a lot for GTA, considering there are so many annoying, irritating, moronic and hateful characters aplenty. Throughout the Casino missions, he's treated like crap, and then to top it off, he gets fired at the end of the final mission! I know it's just a computer game, but I felt really bad for the guy. So lame. It has made me hope for an addition to the Casino DLC in which he returns. Which then got me thinking. Maybe Vincent, so bitter at his betrayal and dismissal from the Casino, becomes a new contact for a brand new heist involving the Casino to enact his revenge. Think about it. He knows the security side of the Casino, and can use us as the players to help him out, considering we have a Penthouse right there on the property. What do you think?
  21. Wingate167

    Dinosaur Bones mission question

    It's been a while since I posted, but I wanted to those who did this mission. I did see a spoiler that the remaining bones were available to be found in the Epilogue. I have 22 bones so far as Arthur, is it possible to complete the mission as Arthur?
  22. Swim. Yeah, I know why Rockstar has done this as it makes sense, cos he couldn't swim in RDR either, but come on it is just silly, especially after the story you are forced to free roam as John. It takes away of that immense sandbox freedom feeling... disappointed Arthur > John
  23. So I am in my third playthrough. In my previous playthroughs Javier comes to me in chapter 2 and wants me to help him rob the place. This leads to finding a stash of cash hidden under a large box in the barn. On this playthrough I was given a tip on the road from a prisoner I freed, to go rob the place. It was early in the game and I still hadn't went and resuscued Sean yet so Javier is still in blackwater waiting on me. I went up there by myself, killed everyone and looted everything. However in the barn I cannot move the box to get the stash. Did I screw this up? Will Javier still ask me to go rob the place with him later?
  24. ... gets sick? Unfortunately I was spoiled by a video suggestion on YouTube, so now I know he dies. I've done 2 missions in Chapter 4, but that's it so far. Please can someone tell me when Arthur starts getting noticeably sick/diagnosed? I want to make a separate save before that happens so I can play as him while still healthy. I know you play as John in the Epilogue, so I'm presuming Chapter 5/6 he gets ill? Thanks so much.
  25. Now we've had time to explore a little, what area of the game makes you feel the most uneasy? I wasn't really expecting the world to feel as dangerous as it does, but I'm so impressed with how well Rockstar have done in creating this sense of danger in the wilderness. For myself, I felt most nervous around the swamps near Saint Denis. The alligators were one thing, but riding through the willow trees at night with the fog everywhere was pretty tense. Especially when I started hearing a woman's voice chanting about God, which kind of had me looking over my shoulder the whole time I was in the area.
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