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“aCTiOns HAvE conSeQuENCeS! T2 was right to remove those save files.” ~ GTAF staff, probably.

Imagine both missing the point of my post while being condescending as hell at the same time, not that the latter is surprising at all. And seeing how that very same small group of members were the ones who got an "interview" (if you can even call it that) instead of this forum's userbase, it's safe to say that yes, you guys were indeed both representing and speaking for this community, as badly and self serving as it was.

Trying the game on PC through a.. way through the Rockstar Launcher.. But look at this Rosa Reborn

The fact that they took down decade old mods and filled lawsuits against a bunch of fans for this f*cking joke of a remaster is unbelievable. I don't think even EA Games would stoop that low

" Several gaming media outlets have done news on it, all fansites have disagreed with the decisions, "leading" community members with huge followings on social media disputed it and have even emailed PR about it, Digital Foundary talked about it on their podcast, they 1000% know what all of our feelings on these matters are" and yet gtanet was the only ones who said "actions have consequences" can't be too harsh on dear old rockstar otherwise game keys don't show in the mail eh

I'm at the very least glad the launch appears to be an unmitigated disaster so far. Imagine paying $60 for this f*cking garbage only to have it pulled off the next day LMAO. Thank f*ck it got cracked on the very same day, and SA got released on the game pass. I would have felt like absolute sh*t just burning my money like that. https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-12-rockstar-pulls-grand-theft-auto-the-trilogy-the-definitive-edition-from-sale-on-pc Here's hoping for more damage to the Rockstar brand, f*ck them and their bean-counting overlords at T2.

If Rockstar/Take-Two isn't planning to change their stance on modding, the sort of communication you can expect is the same as Strauss Zelnick response. If you don't like Strauss Zelnick response, you wouldn't like any communication either.

Have you seen this sh*t?

Nothing they do lately makes any sense, whether it's taking down mods (or savefiles), or releasing DE.

Zelnick is a piece of human dogsh*t. I read that statement on his justification for mod takedowns, stating "in terms of takedowns, we’re pretty flexible, frankly". Yea sure, suing a small team of ordinary people (who just wanted to make an old title more playable out of love and passion) for thousands is truly "flexible" isn't it, Strauss? Get f*cked, prick.

My anger at the devs has turned into nothing but pity. However, my anger at Rockstar has only intensified. WDS/GSG are a small studio filled with inexperienced devs and college graduates who had to work through a pandemic to remaster three massive open-world games in a span of 2/3 years. They couldn't ever fulfil expectations in 2021 even if they were slightly more competent, mainly due to the fact that however you slice it, these games are old, and it will take more than just a remaster to bring them up the standards of even a 2013 game. Despite this, they were tasked with completing these games by a company with multiple studios who dwarf them in size. This would like Capcom enlisting some literal who company to remaster Resident Evil 2&3 rather than just remaking these games in the RE Engine themselves. Meanwhile, Rockstar/Take-Two do nothing with the GTA series except further their campaign against mods and update GTA: Online every so often. Why couldn't they have remade these games in-house? Why do they insist on using third-parties? And better yet, why do they insist on using THIS third party, who already messed up the HD port of San Andreas? It's because they're cheap and Rockstar can't be bothered with the trilogy anymore. The passionate studio who once worked on these games has now been firmly sat into an office in L.A. for the past thirteen years, their franchises being held hostage and subject to the whims of corporate yes men. I would say this remaster feels fan-made but then I am reminded of just how much better modders would be able to do something like this AND how much more faithful it would be. Regardless, it's Rockstar's fault for it being that way. They should've done it themselves or at least handed it to a better third-party. They shouldn't have settled for the bare minimum. This "20th Anniversary" has shown just how little they care about the games that made them who they are today.

Server Admin right now

So they're attacking save files.. Do they plan on selling save as micro transactions? I am being 100% cynical here.. But part of me would not be surprised if this turned out to be the case..

I have no words to describe how disappointed I am with all of this. It's getting more and more ridiculous to see what mods they are trying to get rid of.... I mean save files, seriously? This isn't even a mod, and sharing save files is something people have been doing for decades now. Why are people currently so interested in making everything illegal and eliminating people's creative freedom? It's the same with Right to Rrepair. Treat the people like sh*t and make them pay for stuff that you can fix yourself. If this doesn't stop, people will soon not know how to fix the simplest things and will lack the creativity to create anything. Like, I don't know, open MS Paint and create your own Claude skin. That's propably how most of us got interested in modding the game and create great things.

on it, soon on MixMods.

im glad i held off on purchasing this sh*t Coming from "rockstar games" (actually GSG) This is extremely amateurish and laughable. But they got their money and the honeymoon period is still going. Ill give it a few weeks before it ends what sucks even more is that some staff for this site (The largest GTA forum on the internet) defend them at every point. So much so that sometimes it feels theyre on the payroll

Seriously enjoying these remasters. I couldn’t care how much keyboard warriors can’t stand the game, I love the way you still feel like you’re playing the original but with better graphics and smoother gameplay.

Lets just clear this up once and for all. This is a huge assumption of many people here but it is simply not possible. Several gaming media outlets have done news on it, all fansites have disagreed with the decisions, "leading" community members with huge followings on social media disputed it and have even emailed PR about it, Digital Foundary talked about it on their podcast, they 1000% know what all of our feelings on these matters are. What will it take for you to realise that communication is a two way street, not a knock on the door; the doorbell is broken from all the people asking. It is not anyones fault that our questions are not answered and issues within the community are not dealt with differently by R* or T2. They will not answer if they don't want to answer. Please realise that making anyone scapegoats for corporations worth billiions is extremely divisive and shortsighted. And as a sidenote, that Q&A we had was meant to come a while before it did and contain more information about the upcoming Tuners update with a variety of questions regarding other stuff, but it did not happen because they only responded with what they would/could answer. Thanks.

Holy sh*t now I am reminded of that ridiculous article. That sh*t was and still is infuriating. I guess now putting a save file on the internet is a crime and the uploader's actions have consequences. Waiting on Zelnick's explanation on how a SAVE FILE hurts a multi billionaire company's economy. T2 can go screw themselves.

I seriously think making smaller scaled, experimental, more focused experiences (like Bully, The Warriors) between tentpole releases (and periodic online updates) is the best thing Rockstar can do. A separate moderately large studio could do it. That'll satisfy the both sides of the fence. Not every game has to be GTAV or RDR2.

Really liked what I saw when they first released the trailer, except for the character models that is, but they were starting to grow on me. After seeing various gameplay vids, man, I'm so disappointed in what they did with these phenomenal games. Hiring GSG again after what they did with the San Andreas 10th anniversary port was a huge mistake. Some things make no sense at all like SA sounds in III and VC's menu, the waypoints and GPS have the same color for all three games, HD Universe brands and props, no fog making the game look small, rain is painful to look at, characters are even worse than expected, that annoying "Wasted!" bloody screen, audio is pretty bad, games are full of bugs, and on and on... Would have never thought to say this as I'm a huge Rockstar Games fan, but I don't recognize them anymore and this is saddening

That's f*cking hysterical But how and why were these games produced with zero oversight from R* HQ? I'm just baffled. Its like some higher up gave GSG the green light and then forgot about it entirely until the pre agreed release date, meanwhile GSG outsourced a bunch of work to some company in a non English speaking country who have never even heard of GTA before? This would make a great Internet Historian video for sure.

This topic has now served it's purpose. You can find everything you need in the individual game areas. This might seem like duplication, but we would and have done this for any single game release too. Cheers GTA III III Out Now (general topic) Launch Bugs & Issues Reporting PC/Tech Help Praise & Appreciation Thread Complaints & Criticisms Thread Analysis & Comparisons Topic Screenshots Thread Videos/Clips Thread GTA VC VC Out Now (general topic) Launch Bugs & Issues Reporting PC/Tech Help Praise & Appreciation Thread Complaints & Criticisms Thread Analysis & Comparisons Topic Screenshots Thread Videos/Clips Thread GTA SA San Andreas Out Now (general topic) Launch Bugs & Issues Reporting PC/Tech Help Praise & Appreciation Thread Complaints & Criticisms Thread Analysis & Comparisons Topic Screenshots Thread Videos/Clips Thread

Replaced Tommy with Mario because why not, it's still a bit broken so currently no ETA for a release.

R*&T2:

Posting in here because for some reason there's no general discussion for the trilogy anymore, but damn, it's not just GTAF that's negative about this anymore, this post 'Rockstar should be ashamed of the GTA trilogy remaster' on Reddit has 9k upvotes in 10 hours lol

Yesterday, we have yellow plates. And now why we have the f*cking yellow roads.

The anachronism is off the f*cking charts. Also first impressions on gameplay, it feels absolutely clunky as all f*ck. It's needlessly floaty. nice Also what the f*ck is up with the suspension on all the cars? They all dip worse than GTA 4 cars.

anyway here’s a funny meme

Fan-made GTA SA RW to UE4 conversion which has since been C&D'd """"Definitive Edition""""

Between this being a dud, yet another GTA V re-release and still no sign of GTA VI in sight, is it fair to say the franchise is officially dead?

Or Bethesda, for that matter.

Any other good company would have fired Grove Street Games immediatly after seeing the games in action

Managed to change blood textures

Well the definitive edition topic closed so might as well put this one here.

Why do you put it like that as if Rockstar doesn't have a say about what T2 does? every single action T2 is doing has 100% the approval of Rockstar and that's if Rockstar isn't the one who actually instructed T2 to do the take downs in the first place, either way Rockstar is T2 and T2 is Rockstar. a separation? why would they need a separation? it's not like Rockstar is being forced and bullied by T2, they go just fine together and they are both happy with banning mods and threatening modders.

This kind of sh*t is downright inexcusable. Just so many things wrong with these it's unreal.

Out of the 3 remasters, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas - The Definitive Edition is arguably the worst. There are so many problems with it that I don't even know where to start... This game is basically just a copy of the 10th anniversary "remastered" release for mobile (which was then ported to PS3 and Xbox 360) with new graphics, textures, models and control layout. Due to this, most of the bugs, glitches and issues from the "remastered" versions are back in the game, some of which can be game breaking and prevent you from completing certain missions and objectives. The game also has the same gameplay mechanics as the mobile port; they didn't even bother to put back the mechanics from the original versions. For example, the bicycle goes at full speed if you hold the button (in the original version, you had to tap the button repeatedly to do that). You can lift the heaviest weights from the start and instead of tapping the buttons in the gym to lift weights, you instead have the stupid mobile minigame where you have to press the button at the right time. The lowrider and dance minigames are busted, there is a delay which can prevent you from getting a perfect score. There are other glitches, some of which I haven't seen yet but are probably here like the infamous glitch where CJ swims slower. Moving on to the graphics, it's not good either. The high draw distance and little amount of fog allows players to see the entire map of the game at once, which can be done just by getting on top of the Los Santos Tower. It completely destroys the atmosphere of the game because you quickly realize how small the map actually is. The short draw distance and fog in the original versions gave the illusion that the map was way bigger than it actually is. This clearly shows that Grove Street Games didn't even understand the design choices made by Rockstar North. The game also suffers from pop-ins, so you end up seeing really low poly buildings and places only 200 meters in front of you. The worst thing is that if you are high enough in the sky, you can see the edges of the map, the ocean abruptly stops in a square around the map. When it comes to the character models, San Andreas have some of the most laughable character models out of the 3 remasters. Some of them have deformed bodies or designs that are too different from the originals in a bad way. The map also has many places that the players can clip through or simply have missing textures, which makes it look like there are holes in the map. Some NPC's also have empty spaces in their models. Grove Street Games also implemented textures from Grand Theft Auto IV and Grand Theft Auto V, which breaks the fact that these games take place in separate universes. Many things in the game have also been drastically changed or completely removed. The wasted and busted screens are cheap stock footage, the UI is very simplistic and generic and the arrow on the minimap isn't even in the center, instead it's at the bottom. There many other things I could say but this is getting long and you get the point When it comes to controls, not much has been done. Driving is pretty much the same, but with the added bonus that cars are way too easy to flip over now and they blow up very fast. Aiming is still pretty much the same and can be clunky at times. Animations are the same. Character AI has been somehow improved and messed up at the same time etc, etc... I have said so much, and yet there is still so much dumbsh*t that I could point out here. It's honestly sad how much Grove Street Games have butchered this game in particular. They have done very lazy, half-assed, amateurish and incompetent work on this game. It's a shame and an embarrassment and I can't wrap my head around the fact that Rockstar Games allowed this sh*t.

Your comment just shows that you didn't even read what people have been complaining about

This shows how much GSG cares. They couldn't even be bothered with the R* official logo... (look at the mini-map) I just noticed on top of the star being wrong the "R" isn't correct either. Look at the bottom that connects to the star it isn't even at the same angle and it is overall to straight. This is how GSG treats R*'s legacy.

"B-but they only took down a few total conversions, 99% of the modding community is still safe!"