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I can see how this update is going to pan out for almost everyone on these forums.

Just dream in Cayo Perico: back Pool from GTA 4 / GTA: San Andreas: and Air Hockey from TBoGT: Come on Rockstar Games! You can back this mini-games in GTA Online!

they just set the visual deformation multiplier to be much lower than day 1 and early dlc cars for example: futo: 0.600000,1.000000 coquette: 0.600000,1.000000 bifta (beach bum): 0.600000,1.000000 turismo classic (cunning stunts: special vehicle circuit): 0.300000,0.300000 sugoi (diamond casino heist): 0.400000,0.400000 i believe it's because the car deforming to the point the wheels lock up is the most annoying sh*t ever so they decided to make cars deform less so it's not as much of a problem anymore - especially because those are "high-end" online-exclusive cars, and players might get put off by annoying singleplayer features that nobody asked for.

I'm wondering if the work by the casino could suggest renovations to a new heist planning room - where, once you've selected your NPC team to "go to Cayo Perico" - that unlocks the island in freeroam via some glorious cutscene or something? Maybe that could be a way of splitting off lobbies - and thus - reducing some of the load on the Xbox One and PS4, which are (lets be honest) tending to struggle even now. I'd perhaps say that the submarine will work in similar ways to the yacht - for one, I'll take a guess that we won't be able to pilot the beastly machine itself. I dunno, part of me thinks an underwater 3rd person camera for a vehicle on this sort of scale might be awkward, in this game, so a "keep it simple" approach was preferred. Secondly, I reckon it'll have multiple locations around the new island where it can be "stationed" underwater. Obviously indestructible. I'm thinking the Submarine will also have the usual tricks and whips onboard like a weapon locker, place to get a change of clothes as well as a weapons mechanic (?) seller (?) or at least a place to sort out our pew pew shooty things... including the new guns perhaps? Thinking about weaponry - I imagine the submarine will have its own automated defence system like the yacht's, but there'll also be 2 to 4 player-controlled stations where you can use a new model of missile / torpedo which'll have similar tracking to the Chernobog's missiles, but with more range perhaps, and dealing the damage of an RPG per shot. There will probably also be a Master Control Terminal for managing other businesses and stuff. I get the feeling this could be the one where we see distraction devices added to the game, or stun grenades, or an EMP gun - some sort of "electronic warfare" weapon anyway that's a bit more purpose-driven than the Up-N-Atomizer. Maybe 4-6 new guns or something? Would be nice. Other people have of course mentioned new watercraft and I'm wondering if we'll get a new "Navy SEAL" style submersible that's fast and nimble, mainly for getting on and off the sub or whatever, and that we'll get the ability to airdrop one at our location or something (would be cool). I hope that the AA Trailer and this new Patriot Classic - Squaddie thing had a mating session so we can have one of them with a driver-controlled, missile system with good aiming angles and good tracking, or something. Just give it the armour of the Stromberg and it won't be too OP. I imagine nobody cares about a Sparrow helicopter like the one below when we already have a Sea Sparrow, but it's definitely a sort of "lightweight, low maintenance" helicopter that's suited to the bush. Airwolf could also fit I guess, or if Rockstar are going the futuristic route, something like the helicopter-jet thing from The 6th Day or similar, also below. I guess the overall update could be around 11 GB or something, in consideration of new island assets that Rockstar will surely want to make "fit better" as we're going into new-gen systems like the Xbox X and PS5, maybe around 30 vehicles or more ("biggest update ever" surely can't just mean : "new island + heist, there we go jobs done") with like 90+ new items of clothing, 10 new NPC models and whatever else. Everything new without the physical island could be around 3GB or something (music is a considerable size) so that's 8 GB for the island? As for the heist itself and as the Rockstar Newswire post itself suggests, perhaps we're going to have two targets, one of them being "evidence" in one location, like a Mini-Vault that we see in the current Casino Heist, and the other being "artwork, cash and gold" all together in a proper vault or something. Maybe the Police pay us for the "evidence", which could be something that pertains to the dead John Doe body on the beach, and the other stuff we keep for ourselves / offload to a buyer who gives us clean cash for it. Maybe that "police evidence" thing is a way they get us introduced to a "Cops and Crooks" update further down the line in 2021 or whatever. Could even make sense as far as a storyline and business tactic goes : "to continue the story and find what happens next, buy the game for the *th time on the next console". Wait, don't give them ideas! Anyway, I'm hyped. Let's wait and see.

Remember when Tez said about the Last Heist DLC This seems more fitting for this Heist DLC, what do you guys n gals think?

My Pfister Comet Cabrio! PLEASE!

Prediction: I'm expecting vehicles suitable for 'small, tropical, remote crime island' theme. Off-roaders (Willy's MB and HMMWV already confirmed), small compact utility vehicles (Dune FAV, Outlaw, Kalahari type of things) couple of weaponized or armored vehicles (not too many, we already have enough in game), one or two more pickup trucks and one or two more boats, and maybe one or two meme cars. Plus, R* finally realized that community wants tuners, not exotics. Wishlist: ⋆ Dodge Power Wagon (Benny's Duneloader) ⋆ Land Rover Series I, II, III or Defender. ⋆ Volvo TP-21 ⋆ VAZ 2121 ⋆ Bollinger B1 or B2 ⋆ GMC Hummer EV ⋆ Volkswagen Typ I ⋆ Fiat 500 ⋆ Porsche 356 ⋆ Harley Davidson WLA ⋆ Kamov KA-25 (suits well for a sub dlc)

Not having 100m bare minimum?

Did niobum unblock me just to see my meme lmao

Actually, this whole update reminds me a bit of the 70s, 80s and I would like to see these cars: Basically all European models without the nissan but this would be cool !

Just like every update, I predict a comet classic.

Tomorrow newswire will be about Black friday, I don't believe we will get more news about the dlc this week. Maybe a small teaser or new props.

I wonder if they actually going to make an extended trailer. I mean, for "The biggest update ever" they will have another trailer with "Play now", right? Right? Right?

The automobile manufacturers have OBVIOUSLY been studying our driving habits (130mph impacts with immovable tennis court nets, regular collisions with trains, crushing forces from tanks, jumping thousands of feet, falling off 100 story buildings, etc.) and increased structural reinforcement in certain places to better protect the automobiles occupants. Its called industry evolution. Duhh.

I'm trying not to be disappointed by the announcement, you're right - until we play the new content we don't know what it is. But it's hard not to be disappointed. R* only says we'll get: - new criminals to track down - prestigious level equipment and skills - 10 BH levels - new Legendary Bounties - 100 level Outlaw Pass R* tends to overhype their announcments and newswire posts. The update isn't even mentioned in the post's headline. It's like an afterthought. Reading this post doesn't inspire me. It reads as if we'll just get the same old bounty missions with different names, a few useful pieces of gear to buy, and drip-fed legendary bounties. How long does that hold my interest? 2 weeks, maybe. Then what? Wait another 3 months for another lackluster update that doesn't change the gameplay loop at all, while playing one new legendary bounty / week? good point about Legendary Animals not being mentioned in that Naturalist newswire post. But they did say "....tons of community-requested features and fixes, and much more to play and discover in the months to come" No mention at all about anything further in this latest newswire. Zip, nada, nothing. Don't you think they'd at least tease further content? What's the upside of them not evem mentioning one of the most player requested features? I don't see one.

H1 hummer 2020 Dodge charger hellcat widebody 1950 Jaguar XK120 2018 Chevy Camaro ZL1 1LE 1990s Lotus Carlton 2021 Maserati MC20 2022 Aston martin Dbx Landrover defender 110 1980 Ford Capric Oshkosh corps Ural 43260 Zil 157 Lamborghini aventador SV Ferrari 430 2021 Porsche 911 992 turbo S 2005 Porsche Carerra GT Mazda RX-7 Honda S2000 That's my list:)

Even without that stuff they will need to do a fresh start anyway. I have never seen an online sequel launch and the developers transferred progress, it just doesn't work at all, it messes up progression and the economy day 1. I've said this before a while back now but I expect our "Thanks for playing GTAO 1" reward in GTA Online 2 to be a "I <3 Los Santos" t-shirt lol.

So what are they saying about new mane and tail cosmetics for the horse? What a crimped style? Small close braids for the hunter/sport horse styles. Maybe an intricate up braided mane and bobbed braided tail similar to the style worn by the Budweiser team? I kind of wanted new stalls to add more horses to be honest, more coat colors to choose from for the breeds available? Is it just me or is this exciting new Bounty Hunter update really like something that they should have been offering as an "update" to each role at least once a month? You want long time players engaged, that is how you engage us? And winter outfits? Do we not have winter clothes available to us? Labeling them as something different does not make them unique or "new". I'm hoping the new Bounty Hunter "ranks" have more meat behind them than just the already available grind, and that the new legendary bounties have good cutscenes and more personality. Make us actually hunt these bounties down, not just go to the location that is given to us and boom there they are (and then they are not). For example I want to wander into a saloon and find my bounty playing cards with the option of being able to try to take them in quietly or raise hell in the bar and take them in with force. I want different scenarios, it's not that much to ask is it?

As wildbrick said, I think the MP aspect of DLC vehicles made them move away from high deformation. Most of the models still have appropriate amounts of deformation painting on the model, but the visual deformation limits were reduced. They also infrequently use flags to prevent any form of deformation at all.

I have a strong feeling you want the gta version of "the threesome ending" from Witcher 3. Yeah, knowing R*, I expect it to work just like the yacht. But if not, I don't think there would be a cam problem with a vehicle this size. There are much bigger aircrafts in this game that we can use (sp passenger plane). But I can see it having some issues with getting stuck on some coral reefs. Or it being so slow and clunky that no one will even want to use it. Love the helicopters. Especially AirWolf. They cut a new version of SeaSparrow from Summer Special so I'm hoping for Sea Sparrow Classic with good customization. Sounds like a new background music for the casino. Maybe something for that new room they building. This is Nevada. Pablo Escobar had a similar plane: True, but they still did. Thats my point. Even if theres not a lot they can do with an new interior, they still will reuse if for something (like DDH and Casino Adversary Modes). I don't think theres a single interior from SP or Online that they haven't eventuality reuse for something. You think they won'd to that with the island as well? We both agree that theres a loooot of cool things they could do with this island, right? But I don't agree that them "making the island just for a single heist mission" would go in vein. Since they obviously gonna keep reusing it in the future. Next couple sets of contact missions will surly take place there as well. Same with races, adversary modes, DM etc. Its the 3rd dlc where they using the Casino. I can see the island being used for at least... 20 different things. Would it be better to have it in freeroam? Sure, 100% agree. But I think there was a hardware reason why they didn't do that. BUT when next gen consoles are here, maybe they gonna patch it into freeroam? Along with Aircraft Carrier, Bahama Mammas end all the other cut content. Who knows.

1. Weaponized Tampa - 24 2. Terrorbyte - 35 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 52 5. Cargobob - 28 6. Armored Boxville - 18 7. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 8. Hydra - 35 9. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 28 (-1) 10. Vigilante - 27 11. Carbonizzare - 29 12. Savage - 29 13. Hunter - 42 14. Akula - 49 15. Nightshark - 30 16. Thruster - 29 17. APC - 20 18. Rhino - 16 (-1) 19. Up N Atomiser - 47 20. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 21. Snacks - 45 (+1) 22. Master Control Terminal - 33 23. Stromberg - 46 24. Ramp Buggy - 10

It's also worth noting that not all DLCs have been done by the same people. At least that's the impression I've gotten based on the inconsistency between props and models, some are more detailed and some are straight re-colors of other things, so it's possible some had more work put into its physics. Development in this game is such a clusterf*ck it wouldn't surprise me if that was the case

Torero and the Toros Classic, match made in heaven! And a Benny's Upgrade Id personally like to see! Lincoln Continental Mark III Benny's Upgrade: Lowrider Donk The Car 1977 And this beautiful piece of art! 1958 Plymouth Fury GTA 4 Ubermacht Sentinel Benny's Upgrade

1. Weaponized Tampa - 24 2. Terrorbyte - 34 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 51 5. Cargobob - 28 6. Armored Boxville - 20 (-2) 7. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 8. Hydra - 35 9. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 10. Vigilante - 27 11. Carbonizzare - 29 12. Savage - 29 13. Hunter - 41 14. Akula - 49 (+1) 15. Nightshark - 30 16. Thruster - 29 17. APC - 20 18. Rhino - 17 19. Up N Atomiser - 47 20. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 21. Snacks - 44 22. Master Control Terminal - 35 23. Stromberg - 46 24. Ramp Buggy - 12

Imagine some contact saying..."well...we need to get a submarine, but, we can't just purchase one...that would draw a lot of attention..." Then this would happen:

Speak for yourself. I'm all about grinding Yep. Sweet, legit grinding

"keep an eye out for more news on the next Red Dead Online update here at the Newswire."

Best case scenario: we get something as extensive as the trailer for the first Heists

In-game tease would be nice for a turn. Maybe changes around casino again to see advancement of the construction to get a hint for what is going on. I always wondered if they could advertise next dlc material through those big-ass billboards by shots of new cars coming to 'market' soon.

My guess is that this has something to do with the higher level of texture detail and angular forms they introduced with the new cars. For example, let's compare some OG cars with their newer versions added after some time, starting with the Entity XF versus the Entity XXR: Got these images on the wiki See the major differences here? The front fascia of the XXR is far more rounded and has a much higher level of detail than the XF front fascia, which looks like a pathetic toy car by comparison. Look at how the carbon lip spoiler is properly modelled and integrated with the front bumper. And then, look at the much better detailed headlights. Now, let's look at it's sides as well, the XXR is more angular and detailed than the XF is with it's flat panels. Not to mention the texture quality as well. Now, comparing the Zentorno v. the Zorusso: Courtesy of @Viboxing (GTAGFX) The Zentorno is far more angular but the lower poly count is screaming at your face with those ridiculous headlights and the front fascia in general. In general the Zorusso is much better made even though it lacks in some areas, it's still a much better car than the Zentorno, it's just too expensive for what it is. So as I speculated earlier, higher texture quality and detail in general could mean that the modelers had to dial back on the car's deformation detail, for whatever reason necessary.

The free vehicle I’m guessing its a Feltzer Classics (based either on Mercedes 560SL or 190SL) 1. Everyone loves Classics, including R* 2. It can be part of Christmas giveaway 3. Fits the south American island vibe, and Pablo Escobar owned a Mercedes 190SL It can also be a Mesa classics, just because... As for planes, how about Beagle or Nevada? Classic drug planes. Also looking forward to customizable boats, can’t wait to repaint my Jetmax into the classic Vice City bronze and yellow.

And when will R* fix Duffel Bag sales? I guess those can wait because they are appreciated sale types. Had the Post OP been glitched to the point it had to be disabled, it'd be fixed in a heartbeat, just like the Barge I/E mission. inb4 they actually fix the duffel bags in the december dlc.

1. Weaponized Tampa - 24 2. Terrorbyte - 35 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 52 5. Cargobob - 28 6. Armored Boxville - 18 7. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 8. Hydra - 35 9. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 10. Vigilante - 27 11. Carbonizzare - 29 12. Savage - 29 13. Hunter - 42 14. Akula - 49 15. Nightshark - 30 16. Thruster - 29 17. APC - 20 18. Rhino - 17 19. Up N Atomiser - 47 20. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 21. Snacks - 44 22. Master Control Terminal - 33 23. Stromberg - 46 24. Ramp Buggy - 10 +1 Terrorbyte -2 Ramp Buggy

1. Weaponized Tampa - 24 2. Terrorbyte - 34 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 52 5. Cargobob - 28 6. Armored Boxville - 18 7. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 8. Hydra - 35 9. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 10. Vigilante - 27 11. Carbonizzare - 29 12. Savage - 29 13. Hunter - 42 14. Akula - 49 15. Nightshark - 30 16. Thruster - 29 17. APC - 20 18. Rhino - 17 19. Up N Atomiser - 47 20. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 21. Snacks - 44 22. Master Control Terminal - 33 23. Stromberg - 46 24. Ramp Buggy - 12 +1 buzzard -2 MCT. Great tool, right? except you can't use it to buy supplies in Invite Only sessions, so to me it's bloody useless

Doubt it we already have the Cargo plane... The Nevada would be a better candidate

1. Weaponized Tampa - 24 2. Terrorbyte - 34 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 51 5. Cargobob - 28 6. Armored Boxville - 18 (-2) 7. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 8. Hydra - 35 9. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 10. Vigilante - 27 11. Carbonizzare - 29 12. Savage - 29 13. Hunter - 42 (+1) 14. Akula - 49 15. Nightshark - 30 16. Thruster - 29 17. APC - 20 18. Rhino - 17 19. Up N Atomiser - 47 20. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 21. Snacks - 44 22. Master Control Terminal - 35 23. Stromberg - 46 24. Ramp Buggy - 12

...see, as much as I get that it's a bit disappointing for anyone who expected more than meeting the bare-minimum for what qualifies as an 'existing role expansion' (i.e., literally just more of the same tacked on, instead of an evolution of the role), there's a benefit to them doing it like this: if you're fine with the overall implementation of Bounty Hunter stuff in RDO, then nothing changes or gets made worse here. What I mean is, Bounty Hunter as-is has some flexibility for players - you're a hired gun, and so it's up to you whether you're effectively a wannabe lawman, or a ruthless vigilante (mainly down to which bounties you choose to do, and whether you bring them in dead or alive). Imagine the expansion was straight-up 'Deputy', and existing bounty hunters got automatically upgraded - fine if you're more honourable, but probably not for anyone who plays as a full-on outlaw. So if nothing else, it probably won't mess anything up, at least... One thing I do hope to see, though, is a difficulty toggle for Legendary Bounties - there's a point where some of them stop being fun at 4-5 stars (insta-spawning alligators with no radar blips is just a dick move, R*... ), and right now, having them locked at 5 stars just makes them not worth the bother. And it'd be a pretty boneheaded move on R*'s part if they simply added a bunch more, only to have a finite number of replays before the new ones also become cheap and unenjoyable...

I think the car selection could (and should) be similar to the original Diamond Casino & Resort update. Maybe some more classics. This update will have a drug lord of some sort, and they have expensive tastes, for old and new. But also, ultimately the side content needs to appeals to a wide audience so it could have a more generation selection of cars thrown in there like the latest new stuff in the car market these days. But here are some of my wants and predictions: Schlagen 4-door The AMG GT sedan is very hot these days. It is one of the fastest sedans around the Nurburgring and does 0-60 in 3 seconds flat. I think it would appeal to many folks, and you can take 3 friends with you. It's time for a faster, more nimble sedan than the Schafter V12 but with lots more power. Dewbauchee SUV Rockstar has certainly realized SUVs are a big deal these days. We got the Toros, the Novak, the Rebla GTS, etc. Dewbauchee is due for a new car, and the Aston Martin DBX is one of their newest cars. I think it would be a very easy car for them to do tbh. Obey Sedan or Wagon The new RS7 (or RS6 Avant) are also new for 2020 and very coveted. And we do need a new Obey. They already started with the controversial Drafter. Maybe they could do better with a second attempt at an Obey. A new Gallivanter The forgotten brand. The new Defender is pretty hype this year. And they could use this opportunity to do it and blend in some Bronco influence as well. -gonna add more-

Easier said than done that from what I understand. It'd likely require a complete remake at this point. It would not shock me if, when GTA Online 2 rolls about, that current GTAO becomes GTA Online Classic or something, a completely separate game that looks and plays like GTA V rather than GTA VI. I just don't see how they can merge GTA VI's version of Online and GTA V's version seamlessly from both a player side of things and development. I could be completely wrong but I do fully expect that GTA Online as we know it will be essentially binned when GTA Online 2 comes out.

Predictions Tesla Cybertruck PMP 600 Uranus Lokus Normal Injection Dodge Durango Hellcat Convertibles Wishlist ZR350 Normal ZR380 Normal Streiter Normal Flash Comet Retro Mesa Classic Corvette C4 Hummer H1 Lancia Delta HF integrale Hyundai Veloster N ...and no more meme vehicles!

Now I know we have the Assault Rifle, but what about this? The AKM Why the AKM? Cartel usage and what not. Maybe do a Scavenger hunt on this, and make it the "Antique Rifle". Kinda like how CJ commented on this mission here -------------->

Predictions? -Some Military vehicles -A new quickest SUV like one of those Audi's -A close to or quickest Super Wishlist? -GTA IV Sentinel (+Benny's widebody racecar) -Civilian/buyable version of the Undercover car. A Crown Vic basically. -Buffalo Hellfire

1. Weaponized Tampa - 24 2. Terrorbyte - 34 3. Armored Kuruma - 30. 4. Buzzard - 50 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 0 (-2) 6. Cargobob - 28 7. Armored Boxville - 22 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 9. Hydra - 35 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Carbonizzare - 29 13. Savage - 29 14. Hunter - 43 15. Akula - 48 16. Nightshark - 30 17. Thruster - 29 18. APC - 20 19. Rhino - 17 20. Up N Atomiser - 47 (+1) 21. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 22. Snacks - 43 23. Master Control Terminal - 35 24. Stromberg - 46 25. Ramp Buggy - 14 Damn! First kill. normally I don't, but AA trailer's been my downvote since the start, so... CS: 1. Weaponized Tampa - 24 2. Terrorbyte - 34 3. Armored Kuruma - 30. 4. Buzzard - 50 5. Cargobob - 28 6. Armored Boxville - 22 7. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 8. Hydra - 35 9. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 10. Vigilante - 27 11. Carbonizzare - 29 12. Savage - 29 13. Hunter - 43 14. Akula - 48 15. Nightshark - 30 16. Thruster - 29 17. APC - 20 18. Rhino - 17 19. Up N Atomiser - 47 20. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 21. Snacks - 43 22. Master Control Terminal - 35 23. Stromberg - 46 24. Ramp Buggy - 14

I hope the tunables guys remember page...cough cough...client jobs x2 please!! Or vip jobs too....if You have a friend You can make 60k in 6/7 minutes (diamond shopping) but if is double 120k plus a vip job....150k in 10/12 minutes plus all the glorious rp.... i hit level 1400 i feel so old now....level 1593 Aka 100 m rp here i gooooo ....i wander if Rockstar Will add a teaser tomorrow ...and we need hints regarding the freeroam situation on island

The tunes on that teaser reminds me of something. Especially the second one. The first one reminds me of some Bond theme, which indicates on some spy theme mission. The latter sounds identical to the music used in South Park when they introduced SoDoSoPa. Like this one:

They're widening thi front doors so they kin fit yon muckle submarine oantae thi vehicle podium......