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No matter if the map is a part of freeroam or not, I can see it being divided like this: Blue side = Civilians Red side = Cartels territory Cause it looks like those parts of the map are connected with a single road. Single road = single checkpoint. We probably land as guests, join a party, dance a little, and sneak inside to the restricted area.

Keep in mind the root cause of this "freeroam" debate traces back to the limited capabilities of base consoles, which is what causing everyone to raise doubts about such topic. A feasible alternative would be to ditch the base consoles and keep it exclusive to the newer consoles, but that's like ditching the majority of your community. Even worse, the demand on the new consoles is high enough, that it's going out of stock so quickly, so you can imagine the backlash. It's a dilemma, not a missed opportunity. (If the devs are experiencing trouble with base consoles, I would have told them "just ditch it", cuz I already secured a next-gen console ) EDIT: Frankly, the blame also lays on Rockstar too, but I think it's worth noting that it's not mainly on Rockstar too, and if the island truly ends up exclusive to the heist, I would still think that given more time, the devs could have found a way to compromise, but that equals a delay which is not good for them financially speaking. Plus, this expansion has clearly been in development for so long, so who knows? Maybe, they were trying to find a way around all this time. Anyhow, I think people are making a big deal of this, the island would still be a new place to explore and have fun in regardless of whether it's instanced or not.

Oh I can already see it... Prep mission_1: Steal bolt cutters from construction site Prep Mission_2: Kill a guy and steal his invitation to the island Setup Mission: Steal prototype stealth aircraft from the military base Additional Costs: Hire a pilot that will fly above the island and drop bolt cutters when you need them (the better the pilot, the closer he drops them) Heist: You enter the island as a guest, and you can finally cut the goddamn fence edit: Speedrun strats: Up-N-Atomizer yourself to jump over it

I played enough of R* games to know we getting one of those bad boys

The scary bit is "over 100 songs", cause that alone could weigh around 1-2 GB. That's just songs, not including soundtracks, so that also could weight a bit more too. Counting all the island textures and everything, would be around the same size you guessed, 10 GB or a bit more.

Looking at it closely, I think the person who made the teaser is wanting us to do a quest. We must go to that property to draw out the trail for the rest of the GTA LOGO! Onto new trails my friends

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I think we'll be allowed to explore the island outside of heists. Areas of it (possibly quite large areas) will be restricted though. Not in a way that you can't enter them, but you'll have cartel people on your back if you go there. I think the cartel will act as the police of the island essentially. Since it's a private island, I don't expect we'll have the usual police. Could be wrong though.

Definitely keeping my expectations low for this one. Going on the assumption that the island is inaccessible outside of the heist. Anything else will be a bonus. I do wonder whether there'll be a vehicle dripfeed though, or if they'll release all vehicles day one? Looking forward to the new weapons and clothing too.

My first post on the forums, just made this account to share what seemed to me to be the location where one of the security camera screenshots was taken. The number of shadows cast by trees on the road along with the suroundings seemed to check out with the other picture which shows a broader layout of the compound.

Here's my vision of El Rubio...

So how much is this "biggest ever update" gonna cost? Cause I have like 18 dollars, plus the 1 million Rockstar gave me this week

Me waiting for the update to drop.

Benefactor Schatfer Classic

Can we please not post mock ups in this thread. I mean it looks nice and everything but seriously.

That is true, I was the office door

That can be Glendale Stretch, as Flash said. BENEFACTOR SCHAFTER CLASSIC

It would be nice if they added at least 6 new mk2 weapons or completely new ones

Update to this: Pretty obvious stuff but this should confirm location of the mansion (notice that little rock in the water, on the left) or like this (same place, just smaller. Its hard to see proportions) edit: So in other words, the only things they haven't showed yet: edit2: And no matter if the map is a part of freeroam or not, I can see it being divided like this:

ONCE AGAIN To all the People who keeps asking will it be in free roam. The answer is YES 1. Why would they add new radio stations and over 100 songs 2. We have to move around the island for set ups and preps 3. They’re adding little party spots n stuff to hang out 4. I know rockstar can be a pain in the A but they’re not about to create a whole island with new dj’s and hundreds of songs just for a 15 to 20 minute heist come on guys use your brain it’s obvious the island is available in free roam

Eh. Regardless of whether it'll be free-roamable or not, WE'RE GOING SOMEWHERE NEW YOOOOOO IT'S NOT THE SAME BORING OLD LOS SANTOS BUT WITH A NEW BUILDING

I do not know discussed here, but if you enter the coordinates from the teaser, then we will get to this place on the maps. Where the road goes like Roman numeral 6

Started on this map awhile ago but never finished it. It's all over the place right now but idk I might touch it up. \

it's literally just an island and/or the airstrip on the map. first, if the sa map faces this way, the island has to face the same way. otherwise that would be one convoluted and unreliable tech thing whatever in that teaser. which makes it absolutely impossible to face it the way the reddit post thinks. now time for my sh*tty map markings, it's already been established that the purple line is roughly the dockyard, and the big cyan blob is roughly the area where the radio tower is (radio tower only marked for reference, see this shot showing the whole dock with radio tower in the distance, in bottom right of that shot you can see the crane and the roofed docks which are the exact same seen below) the line to the east roughly follows the "coastline" in the trailer, same on the west side in a very similar way. so, taking that into consideration, it appears that shot is facing roughly this way which is directly in front of the smaller island and the airstrip in the distance (WHICH ALSO explains the tower looking thing in the far distance) and finally, rockstar calls it a "remote island", implying that the island is nowhere near SA... ...not to mention that the drug lord wouldn't be an imbecile to set up their illegal base of operations on an island right next to a government-owned military base

It would be nice if we got a W140 Benz

Ooh I just realized. What if for those "tactical weapons" we get the flashbang and stun grenade that was found in the summer update? Maybe we get them for the loud approach.

guys help i went to the coordinates and it's dark and all i can hear is someone whispering "its all aboot the shaggin" from the bushes in a weird accent i barely have any cell service help me

Nvm

Niiiice. Back to the topic Eh you seem VERY sure of it... You might be disappointed when it drops. I was 50/50 about it but after Yan's comment, yeah, he probably knows what he's talking about. They will probably threat this heist exterior like every previous heist interior, available only during heists so they don't have to worry about lags. 1. Cause after 7years new songs are long overdue. And they are getting ready to release "the enhanced version". Is it possible there gonna be a new radio station just for the island? Sure! 100 songs? Ofc not... Most of that will be available on the main map as well. Also keep in mind they adding new DJs. So thats like at least 20-30% of those songs 2. This might be the first heist where preps are also invite only, just like setups. Or maybe there are no preps at all. Or preps take place on the old map. 3. New "Social space" might be the casino expansion. The beach party we seen? Might be part of a setup/prep where you have to scope out the joint, take pictures, steal ID's etc. Also think about the waiting room in Arena War. You are technically still "in the mission/invite only area" but you have time to chill in a "social space" after you lose. Well, maybe this time you can chill and dance before you start gathering stuff for the heist? Its a part of blending in? Maybe those preps/setups are like a tiny invite only lobby for your friends where everyone can dance and explore the island (not counting restricted areas ofc). And when get you bored you just take the pictures and leave when you want. OR maybe preps are in a separate lobby but its shared between other players? So you invite 3 friends for a prep/party on the island but when you get there, there are other players doing exactly the same thing. So it would be like joining a contact mission for 20 people for a mission without a timer. 4. They would surly use the island for future contact missions, races, adversary modes etc. DJs and songs are not ONLY for the island. Don't you know R*? They made the aircraft carrier for a 15min mission, They made the whole interior of Mt. Chiliad just for a single 15min mission and you also don't even have the time to explore it properly. Same with every other interior they made. If you fallowing the mapping thread, its hard to say with that low-res map we have but it seems theres not enough of space on the map for a tiny town. Unless they adding a separate tourist attraction island they haven't even showed yet. edit: So we know they expanding the casino. We know they adding new songs and DJs (most likely we can also use them in our nightclubs). I'm starting to think they are getting ready for the "enhanced version". Maybe they planning to "upgrade" all the old DLCs with new features? Like Arcade machines you can buy for every old property, more mk2 benches, more "command centers" like the one from Arcade, new theme colors etc.

1. Weaponized Tampa - 25 2. Terrorbyte - 32 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 46 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 18 6. Cargobob - 30 7. Armored Boxville - 23 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 9. Hydra - 33 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Deluxo - 3 13. Oppressor - 16 14. Carbonizzare - 30 15. Savage - 29 16. Hunter - 40 17. Akula - 43 (+1) 18. Nightshark - 30 19. Thruster - 30 20. APC - 24 (-2) 21. Rhino - 20 22. Up N Atomiser - 41 23. Unholy Hellbringer - 20 24. Snacks - 39 25. Armor - 12 26. Master Control Terminal - 35 27. Stromberg - 41 28. Ramp Buggy - 21 The APC, while it looks kind of cool rather sucks for predominantly solo players. Having to stop, hold a button to fire the cannon or a series of dummy missiles while you stay a sitting target isn't particularly useful.

Personally I'd prefer a Renault 5, so I could; BOOYAKA!

As this is not a high-tech theme dlc....we probably not going to receive some dooms-day level weapon (unless we are going to steal some evidence to prove him aiding Alien to conquer the world) It seems like a mercenaries/just cause+ metal gear +payday 2+ rainbow6 dlc Something like underwater gun, Navy seal equipment, heist equipment, grapple gun should be the technical weapon we receiver Oh dun forget this:

This will sound crazy and absurd but believe it or not i am more hyped for this dlc than i am for Cyberpunk 2077... And i am extremely hyped for that game.

1. Weaponized Tampa - 25 2. Terrorbyte - 33 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 46 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 18 6. Cargobob - 30 7. Armored Boxville - 23 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 9. Hydra - 33 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Oppressor - 14 13. Carbonizzare - 30 14. Savage - 29 15. Hunter - 41 16. Akula - 44 17. Nightshark - 30 18. Thruster - 30 19. APC - 24 20. Rhino - 20 21. Up N Atomiser - 41 22. Unholy Hellbringer - 20 23. Snacks - 39 24. Armor - 11 25. Master Control Terminal - 35 26. Stromberg - 42 27. Ramp Buggy - 19 +1 Terrorbyte -2 Ramp Buggy

And more classics. I hope so and I believe so. Seeing that they already took inspiration from Mr. Escobar, I hope they include some of his known classics. f*ck my life, a Renault 4 would be a dream. My childhood memories coming on strong......

Dont forget the regular rancher And if we get a police dlc we need the police rancher from gtasa

Agreed. I know Yan has been the most reliable leaker ever but I have a hard time believing they would add a map expansion with no ability to roam it. I think it will be exactly as you say.

Enus ???? Benny's Version

The first time I saw the newswire and and read 100 songs and a new island, The feeling I got is 10GB or even more. But Screw that I want and everyone wants is good content. Let's hope for some Benny's cars.

1. Weaponized Tampa - 25 2. Terrorbyte - 33 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 46 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 18 6. Cargobob - 30 7. Armored Boxville - 23 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 9. Hydra - 33 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Oppressor - 14 13. Carbonizzare - 30 14. Savage - 29 15. Hunter - 41 16. Akula - 44 17. Nightshark - 30 18. Thruster - 30 19. APC - 24 20. Rhino - 20 21. Up N Atomiser - 41 22. Unholy Hellbringer - 18 (-2) 23. Snacks - 40 (+1) 24. Armor - 11 25. Master Control Terminal - 35 26. Stromberg - 42 27. Ramp Buggy - 19 The Widowmaker and Hellbringer that I somehow got for free(maybe during the Christmas) disappeared after the Alien Survival, and I don't miss them at all

To all who thinks, It will be accesable during the heist only, how do you think the social places will work? make a quick 2 minute break from the shooting, and go dancing, have a cocktail at the bar and then continue the heist? my theory is, it will be like foart zancudo. first you are not allowed to enter the island without getting wanted immediatly. after completing the heist, you have unlocked the island, can enter it without stars and buy a house there...

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1. Weaponized Tampa - 25 2. Terrorbyte - 32 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 46 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 18 6. Cargobob - 30 7. Armored Boxville - 23 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 9. Hydra - 33 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Deluxo - 0 13. Oppressor - 16 14. Carbonizzare - 30 15. Savage - 29 16. Hunter - 40 17. Akula - 44 18. Nightshark - 30 19. Thruster - 30 20. APC - 24 21. Rhino - 20 22. Up N Atomiser - 41 23. Unholy Hellbringer - 20 24. Snacks - 39 25. Armor - 11 26. Master Control Terminal - 35 27. Stromberg - 42 28. Ramp Buggy - 21 My pleasure -1 deluxo -1 armor +1 stromberg CS: 1. Weaponized Tampa - 25 2. Terrorbyte - 32 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 46 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 18 6. Cargobob - 30 7. Armored Boxville - 23 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 9. Hydra - 33 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Oppressor - 16 13. Carbonizzare - 30 14. Savage - 29 15. Hunter - 40 16. Akula - 44 17. Nightshark - 30 18. Thruster - 30 19. APC - 24 20. Rhino - 20 21. Up N Atomiser - 41 22. Unholy Hellbringer - 20 23. Snacks - 39 24. Armor - 11 25. Master Control Terminal - 35 26. Stromberg - 42 27. Ramp Buggy - 21

1. Weaponized Tampa - 25 2. Terrorbyte - 32 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 46 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 18 6. Cargobob - 30 7. Armored Boxville - 23 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 32 9. Hydra - 33 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Deluxo - 1 (-2) 13. Oppressor - 16 14. Carbonizzare - 30 15. Savage - 29 16. Hunter - 40 17. Akula - 44 (+1) 18. Nightshark - 30 19. Thruster - 30 20. APC - 24 21. Rhino - 20 22. Up N Atomiser - 41 23. Unholy Hellbringer - 20 24. Snacks - 39 25. Armor - 12 26. Master Control Terminal - 35 27. Stromberg - 41 28. Ramp Buggy - 21 I gave the Akula one point since you can enter stealth mode while collecting creates or doing either Headhunter, Sightseer, Hostile takeover and other missions where you collect pickup items so no one in the lobby can go after you. Can someone please put the former meta griefing vehicle out of it's misery please?

Don't you just love it when you host a race with your preferred settings, you manage to accumulate a full lobby, and then that one player gets stuck on "joining" who you cannot kick, halting the entire lobby and potentially ruining the opportunity to race, forcing everyone to back out and go through the torture of watching the clouds again? And to make matters worse, you get players yelling at you to start the game, even though you can't because of the person stuck on "joining", and then they yell at you to kick them, even though you can't because of the fact that you can't kick players who haven't joined yet. Looks like I'm gonna be taking another break from this trash game.

1. Weaponized Tampa - 25 2. Terrorbyte - 32 3. Armored Kuruma - 30 4. Buzzard - 46 5. Anti Aircraft Trailer - 18 6. Cargobob - 30 7. Armored Boxville - 23 8. Heavy Sniper MK2 - 31 9. Hydra - 33 10. Insurgent Pick Up Custom - 29 11. Vigilante - 27 12. Deluxo - 3 (-2 ) 13. Oppressor - 16 14. Carbonizzare - 30 15. Savage - 29 16. Hunter - 40 (+1) 17. Akula - 42 18. Nightshark - 30 19. Thruster - 30 20. APC - 26 21. Rhino - 21 22. Up N Atomiser - 41 23. Unholy Hellbringer - 20 24. Snacks - 39 25. Armor - 13 26. Master Control Terminal - 35 27. Stromberg - 41 28. Ramp Buggy - 21