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Most of us are constantly squeezing out the game. Some may choose to skip on this "Halloween Pass" offer, but honestly speaking, the game is dry enough for me that I won't mind spending 15 gold bars just to relive the sense of progression.

This is what is so frustating. Just announce it. Let us know its in the works. We're all patient and are used to waiting. We know it'll be another year after announcement (at least) before anything else, but just us know. Come on. I know they have their "standards" but patience wears thin. They'll drive themselves to irrelevance. I know it sounds like my toys have been thrown from the pram, but its getting a bit tedious now.

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club - 49 [+1] 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 44 5. Albany Manana Custom - 10 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 27 [-2] 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 28 8. Lampadati Tigon - 47 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 47 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 20

I mean, it was going to happen. That game has been canned and brought back more often than GTA V has been re-released.

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club - 48 (+1) 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 44 5. Albany Manana Custom - 12 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 28 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 28 8. Lampadati Tigon - 47 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 47 (-2) 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 20 I like the Rancher; just not as much as the Club.

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club - 47 (+1) 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 44 5. Albany Manana Custom - 12 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 28 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 28 8. Lampadati Tigon - 47 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 49 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 20 (-2)

I would like to see an Albany Broadway that way.

Up until now I have ignored the casino heist. So this week my crew and I thought we'd give it a shot. We were doing the setup mission where you steal the untraceable weapons. I want to know who at Rockstar thought up this ridiculous mission. What were these developers smoking when they programmed this? Here is my list of issues with this mission: #1 - ignore our entire inventory of weapons and go steal untraceable weapons....that are located on a military base! WTF?! #2 - steal the weapons by stealing the military vehicle they are stored in...a vehicle that is obviously low jacked because every cop on the map seems to know where you are with this thing #3 - when you die, you respawn in the middle of this cluster of cops and you spawn with no weapon in your hand The entire premise of this mission is to steal weapons that can't be traced back to you or Lester and yet you are stealing them from a high security facility and then you're in a 4 star police chase for 30 minutes. That completely contradicts the premise of the mission. It would have made more sense to steal weapons from the Ballas or Lost MC not from Zancudo, where you have to kill military personnel in full view of everyone.

An "entirely new location" being literally just a building is a fast way of angering players. They might be stupid, but they aren't that stupid. Putting that much emphasis on something they've been technically doing since Heists would backfire. It's a map expansion, and what it is will pretty much tell us how committed r* is in updating a near decade old games.

Just look at it the way it actually is. A major Rockstar release every 5 years or so. We can already plot the estimated release schedule for their games: 2023: GTA VI 2028: Next-gen consoles + RDR3? 2033: GTA VII 2036: Next-gen consoles 2038: RDR4? Maybe a new IP?

If it helps, the 3 most played adversary modes are Slasher, Sumo, and Deadline. The most played Adversary mode variant is Hunting Pack (Remix) 1 at 19.7 million plays which released 2 years ago. The most played survival is Boneyard at 64.7 million plays. The Grove Street Survival is one of the newer ones and is at 13.3 million plays. Its also the most played new survival. It got those 13.1 million plays in 9 months... Now the most played jobs/race Rooftop Rumble is at 237.2 million plays. Criminal Records race is at 225.9 million plays. Meth'd Up is at 154 million plays. Titan of a Job is at 137 million plays. Pacific Standard finale is at 211 million plays. Doomsday Scenario finale at 175.6 million plays Fleeca Job finale is at 155.7 million plays. Data Breaches finale is at 138.5 million plays.

Gta4 rpg was funny as hell. But yeah it's all kind of backwards. You had more control in Gta4, but no long game. Here, you have goals but are encouraged to play alone. It's a very broken online game, one that shouldn't be as popular as it is.

GTA IV had weapon recoil that had to be controlled with burst firing and standing still or crouching. GTA V guns shoot with laser accuracy. That alone shows how downgraded the PvP was in GTA V. In addition, you can heal yourself with snacks, refill armour and ammo, carry every weapon in the game with endless ammo, throw sticky bombs from cars with extreme accuracy, use homing missiles, easy way out, enter passive mode, join invite to heists, use jets with explosive rounds, rocket bikes, an orbital cannon... Yeah... how did GTA V improve this again?

I actually feel like the game is a more lively and populated experience now. I've engaging in activities all the time and really enjoying it. Met a few people and found them to be far friendlier than usual so the social side of the game improved for me. 1 error/disconnect so far having played for 40-90 mins each day for 2.5 weeks 1 black endless black screen for the same play time Compared to the previous experience of it taking 5+ mins to load into a session and having about 5-9 disconnects in a 40 minute play session I understand the frustration of those who do want populated lobbies however and perhaps they can now understand how the rest of us feel when we couldn't play the game how WE wanted to. This is why I believe lobby OPTIONS and CHOICES would be better for everyone. Let us have invite only lobbies or smaller lobbies as a choice or opt for larger PvP-centred lobbies. There is no 'one size fits all' when it comes to desired playstyle and lobby size. And it is within R*'s power to provide us with lobby choice, so it is incredible they flat out refuse to do so. R* has simply inconvenienced solo/PvE players and those with connection issues (or who have smaller populations in their country) since RDO's launch. The current state of the game inconveniences those who wish for larger lobbies with a PvP focus. Lobby selection would give all players a sandpit to enjoy the game. Make it happen R*

Exactly, “MASTERS MARKETING” so they can’t say “ENTIRELY NEW LOCATION” and give us some bullsh*t. That sh*t will flop if it’s anything less than expected. That wouldn’t be “master marketing” at all.

Finally Pre-ordered the game. This game is now officially the first Non R* game that I've pre-ordered in my entire life. Let's hope it won't disappoint.

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club - 49 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 44 5. Albany Manana Custom - 10 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 28 (+1) 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 28 8. Lampadati Tigon - 45 (-2) 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 47 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 20

2x Contact Missions! Yess! Entering contact missions Me :

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club - 48 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 44 5. Albany Manana Custom - 10 (-2) 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 29 (+1) 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 28 8. Lampadati Tigon - 47 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 47 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 20

pretty poor. will take if for the Bar Decor only thought. i need to spend my gold somewhere right ? :). I would love to have a new tent though rather than the bar decor

"So I bought a pet snake."

A baffling thread and comments. Does anybody actually remember GTA 4 freemode and the way it worked? You pulled up your mobile phone from single player and went into an endless roaming experience, And when you'd had enough, you quit out and went back to single player. There were no save points, apartments, no progress was saved, no collectable cars, clothes, guns, etc., nothing. There wasn't even any money or RP that you could accrue in freemode, you just quit out and that was it. And yet, GTA 4 was so much better. Strange!

This was one thing that I loved about the pvp. Guns were more situational and you had to be smart with how you would shoot. You couldn’t just spray and pray. Like blind firing from cover still left you partially exposed and vulnerable to fire, while staying stationary, crouching, and aiming down with burst fire was the most accurate way to take down a long range target. And don’t even get me started on the RPG’s

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club -48 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 43 5. Albany Manana Custom - 12 (-2) 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 28 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 28 (+1) 8. Lampadati Tigon - 47 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 49 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 22

I think the real issue is one of communication. R* is one of the worst companies when it comes to communicating and interacting with their customers, and this in turn creates a lot of opportunity for speculation and sh*tposting. R* could simply be more open to their development process and explain it in a way that would acknowledge the desire for a new GTA6 game, but state that their vision is to achieve this within 12-36 months time and until then they have other projects they are working on. It's also a little like the WoW syndrome where they are a victim of their own success. Any sequels to WoW? No, just endless expansions. Likewise for GTAO, it's going to be re-re-release on PS5/XBSX in 2021. Like, my god people, that'll be an 8 year old game spanning 3.5 console generations from 360/X1/X1X/XSX for Microsoft alone. Developers and publishers don't tell you 'we have a game tittle X and it'll release in 5 years' but R* could at least communicate more clearly on the matter or else it gives rise to speculation and the YT clowns make bank by perpetuating this.

That talk about islands made me think - there are already a lot of unused islands on the map, I wouldn't be surprised if they just rework those and add villas on them. The east coast of the map is very underutilized currently. The cheapest islands would of course be the ones close to the power plant, and then the largest islands to the south would be the most expensive ones

The Halloween Pass. Here's the unlocks

In my case, there is nothing in the pass I don't have or need so there is no progression. I have so many coupons already that I can't use because I am either maxed out on the role or already own whatever it is. Wish I could delete them from the benefits page. Even the outlaw passes don't offer anything of interest for people like me who have no interest in clothes or emotes or other superficial things. What they need to add is a major content drop. People want to level up as high as they can, get as much money and gold as they can, but I'm telling you, getting there is where the fun is. Once you get there the game is pretty much over so you may as well take your time and enjoy the ride.

You will keep everything even after the period expires. Same as the other passes.

I really want to play this game, but don't have any reason to do so. Ugh.

15 gold - which you don't get back, unlike other passes - for basically some filters and emotes. Hard pass.

I do wonder if that Halloween bar decor remains after the Halloween event? @Fun 2 or anyone, do you know if it'll be forever accessible or only able to be used during the period? I mean, 15 gold for something we can only use for 2 weeks a year is a bit strong, lol.

Because I can't remember a single moment in RDR2 where I felt like I did something of my own accord. I remember that one moment where I encountered a random event on the road of a woman needing a ride. She got knocked over and I was liking this until I realize you can't access her anymore, she stood there like a zombie with no available interaction. Because I didn't approach the event like Rockstar wanted, the game broke. It's doesn't feel like open-world anymore, it feels like a prison....... Other open world games don't force things like this on you. Remember that scene where you rescue John from the snow? There is one part where you go into cinematic, you are allowed to move Arthur in WASD direction but that scene does nothing. You could have put that into a cutscene anyway because you do end up in a cutscene of watching the wolves. No other game does it like that, no other games worship story telling like that. It's a game, let it be a game, not some interactive story book. But also the open world sandbox is what made Rockstar unique. As much people don't wanna hear it, RDR2 is sadly a forgettable experience for me. Because it feels like any other open world game at its best and a story-obsessed control freak at its worst. I would be okay if it was a linear story experience but honestly, RDR2 is pretty generic narratively as well and watching Rockstar wank that in your face with its highly scripted missions is.....sad for me. It feels like insecurity, that new dev team lacks confidence because they want to really put its story and details in your face to make you like them, because otherwise most people won't notice. Honestly, Rockstar should go into movie making business. This whole novel trying to be a movie trying to be a game thing....feels wrong IMO.

The bugs in this game is so frustrating... So I finish Salvage and when I am back in free roam the Knight Moose spawns, as I get it sedated the game crashes to desktop, so now I have to wait 72 hours to get either of the Moose and it didn't even update my Animal Field Guide for the Photograph I took or the sedation of the Moose either..

Well, that's just a perfect 10/10. I recently sold my Kanjo for a Club and immediately missed it. Yours is an absolutely solid racing style and a reminder to buy a new one while it's on sale.

free for the weekend....POSSE BULLsh*t for the weekend! nazar is in RIO BRAVO...I guess near twin rocks!? PLAINVIEW....I hate it when she's down there!

IV multiplayer handled the guns the same way as single player. IV Multiplayer had very fast loadtimes. You could complete a deathmatch with rounds, and the next round would start in under 15 seconds, or switch to a different gamemode, play it, and back to freemode in under 30 seconds. You could play multiple races in the time it takes to do a single race in gtao. Cops off was one of the best parts about iv multiplayer. Plus being able to enter any of the interiors at any time was the best, and all of the cars being available to steal. Hey now the rpgs in gta iv were a risky thing to use. It wasn't a laser pointer straight line like in V. In iv the rpg was like an object, it could bounce off of things if you got lucky. Never can forget those rpg deathmatches at the airport. Plus remember how the map had health pickups, and if you drove your vehicle into one, it fixed your car as well. IV they even did some balancing to autoaim. Best part is how in iv, they made the autoaim to make headshots a harder task. You had to get the stick just right, too far up you shot above the head, too low, you shot below the head. Meanwhile in V, you have the combat roll bs. If you roll, you break the other players autoaim, while being able to lock onto them the entire roll, than you push up on the right stick all the way and you will get an instant headshot, its bs and bad.

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club - 46 (-2) 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 44 (+1) 5. Albany Manana Custom - 12 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 28 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 28 8. Lampadati Tigon - 47 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 49 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 22

"C ockstar" is one of the words that are censored. I had to put a space between 'C' and 'o' to avoid it.

Rockstar.

I ain't even joking, I am buying the Pass for the Moonshine Bar theme and that's it. The other stuff is a good bonus.

1. Benefactor BR8 - 40 2. BF Club - 48 (-2) 3. Declasse DR1 - 25 4. Bravado Gauntlet Classic Custom - 43 5. Albany Manana Custom - 14 6. Maibatsu Penumbra FF - 27 7. Canis Seminole Frontier - 29 8. Lampadati Tigon - 47 (+1) 9. Declasse Yosemite Rancher - 49 10. Bravado Youga Classic 4x4 - 22

It's mostly filler for sure, and the first time R* have both split the Pass in two and, more worryingly, not made it so we recoup the gold spent on the Pass. That being said, I've seen some of the unlocks, and personally I'd had paid for the Halloween Moonshine Shack decor, Reaper Rolling Block variant and the black hand wraps if they were stand alone items, so I feel like I'll just about get 15 Gold bars worth of value out of the Halloween Pass. I wonder whether R* are testing the reaction and the next Outlaw Pass will be split and have a separate Christmas Pass.

They announced it in 2012, but they didn't start talking about the game until E3 2018. If not for COVID-19, the game likely would have released in September 2020. So there was only 2 years between them talking about the game and release. It's no different than Rockstar's 2 year gap. The only significant difference is CDPR are a lot more transparent and tell us more. Unlike Rockstar and their droughts, and subsequent drip feeds.