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Another issue with what was previously stated, is that you could be chilling as a low-ballin' gangsta in your custom Manana, but later on, you decide to annoy someone and teach him some classic GTA tradition, by going drive-by shooting on his ass. Yet, shortly afterwards, he comes back at ya with an Oppressor Mk2. Mf skipped the lesson and went straight to Toys“R”Us.

some quick comparison pics between it and the real deal, kinda hard to differentiate. ignore the cursor

They force you to play with others (by making most Business as lone wolf unfriendly as possible), they don't really encourage it because helping other players pays so little, you might as well work for free to other players, hence why it's not surprising when most people try to complete alone an obvious team based activity. Even if you have friends or crew members to help you, it's more than obvious that they'll do it because they expect you to pay them the favor back, not because they're actively being rewarded for it or because it's fun. Even in a grinding crew, helping someone to sell all his 5 Businesses and his Bunker before he can help you instead takes a damn long time, time that you could have spend better in selling on your own or doing literally anything else. Seeing how literally everything new added to the game these days is either grossly overpriced (I mean, a Golf Mk1 knockoff costing more than one million? Seriously?), behind several paywalls or sometimes even both, it's not surprising when people take sellinh stock way too seriously and as a job of sorts. Fun may be subjective, what's not subjective is when someone's fun comes at the direct expense of someone else's fun. Are you seriously trying to justify griefing as a legitimate playing style? Seriously? No one says that you shouldn't enjoy the game for what it currently is, what people like @ddarko12 point out is how most people are pretty content with mediocrity instead of demanding for an actually good game to be made. This "it is what it is" mentality is exactly why the game has been in such an stagnant state for so long and it's pretty much innexcusable, people should know and do better at this point of the game's lifetime, even more when this game is going to be ported again to next gen. I mean, we complain about both of them and Rockstar too, but you're the one who's going out of the way to defend their obviously toxic playstyle too. Not the same thing at all. Being beaten in a Deathmatch, an Adversary Mode or a Race (obvious balancing issues aside) doesn't set you back at all, you either win or you lose, that's it, that's the whole game and everyone is on it for it. You can't say the same thing at all when cargo is involved, someone's spent a long time accruing said stock and has a lot to lose, just to eventually lose it all against someone who has nothing better to do than being an asshole. You can't lose by not destroying cargo, but you can lose a lot if someone destroys your cargo. It's true that Freemode was always an anarchic place since the beginning, but it all changed when the concept of this badly balanced, "way too high risk, not so high reward" cargo stuff were added to the game back when the Further Adventures in Finance and Felony update dropped. Before then, being spawnkilled by a tank or a jet was annoying but ultimately harmless, after it it stopped being so and could cost you a lot without you even being able to defend yourself or even fight back at all in most cases. The problem is not that it can't be avoided (because well, it can), the problem is that we shouldn't go out of our way and use exploits just to be able to play in peace and actually make the game work. Expecting people to use solo public sessions or whatever and blaming them or outright mocking them when they don't (or they do but it wasn't enough, since solo public sessions aren't 100% safe after all) is outright victim blaming. This is a videogame though, just because things are unfair in real life it doesn't mean that the same would apply in a videogame of all things, they should be balanced as much as possible to ensure a playing field across all players instead of ending up with the hot mess that is PvP in current GTA Online. No, they don't. I don't know what's worse, that people still keep on defending such obvious toxic behaviour as "pArT oF tHe GaMe" in freaking 2020 or that some people (including an actual forum staff member that should have known better at this point) actually agreed with your sentiment somehow.

@Commander S The problem is that it isn't about how detailed the car is, the problem is that it feels like a change in art direction and I'm not fond of that. If they went with almost 1:1 copies since the beginning of the HD era I wouldn't be here complaining. Yes there were cars that are close even back in GTA IV but they didn't feel like a mod because how they were modelled, textured etc. With the influx of new developers that probably don't care about it the design language changed drastically. Again if you put it next to the older car it doesn't look right. It looks off. The developers, especially ones that take a steering wheel after old ones have left, should try to make new assets fit into already preexisting ones. What I really see is the situation that TF2 was in 2010 when they've added Kanye Glasses that completely broke the art style and TF2 started adding more sh*t that didn't look properly. You said that it's a matter of liking game cars or IRL cars. I like both, but I have games for IRL cars and games for "game cars" and GTA always had "game cars". Again IF GTA was always aiming for 1:1 replicas I wouldn't be here complaining about it.

Well, yeah, the whole thing is that they have fun at someone else's expence - the game actively encourages people to impede each other's progress, than kind of a 'crab bucket' mentality. I'll say it in blue: encouraging people to destroy $1 million for $2000 is bullsh*t.

Another leftover/currently unused asset from Los Santos Summer Special, a new shader; vehicle_lightemissive_siren. It's not too different from the regular lightemissive shader currently used on sirens in-game, but that may change if/when further visualsetting changes are made. It is a little brighter, though.

Looks a lot better with proper fitment

Los Santos Summer Special has introduced 3 new special abilities to the game - SAT_GHOST, SAT_SPRINT_SPEED_BOOST and SAT_ENRAGED, worth to add that another special ability was in files, lying around - SAT_SNAPSHOT, i have no idea what Enraged and Ghost do, there seems to be no effect at all ingame, but it always could do something hidden that i'm not aware of, another guess is that their uses would be part of script while the special ability is enabled Credits to Carl Johnson (YHWHDios), Razed and Alexguirre for doing the digging

Here be that '92 Club i mentioned i would make. Based it off my cousin's '92 Golf GTI Enjoy!

True, but relying on a glitch or to exclude oneself from content through the lack of balance highlights the issues this game has. It's just a clusterf*ck at this point, lol.

2013 cars vs 2019-2020 cars look really out of place when standing next to each other in the same game. I can't take the D10 seriously as an in-lore C8 - even though I do like the C8. Maybe the D10 looks good but it's a hair away from looking like a Forza port with Invetero badges.

To further add on, or accompany the evidence in this post, I did some digging and found some audio files of Harriet briefing the character on these new animals when you start a mission. When she briefs you on some of these animals, she references some areas that she will send you to such as Blackwater or Strawberry. Interestingly enough, there are mentions of a bird and a fish that she wants you to track down, however this might be cut content. There are also voice lines in regards to marking new locations on your map (I can't remember if we are already hearing this dialogue in game but I've included them in the video anyway). This took me a very long time to compile and go through, and I'm sure I've missed a few but these are the most notable ones that I can find, or at least I think I haven't heard play in game yet when you speak to her. After listening to her voice lines, I find it weird that she has such a huge hate boner for Gus and she doesn't seem to want to send you after him to kill him, but she sends you to kill some random poachers. Anyway... I believe the Naturalist trailer itself showcases some of the mini cutscenes that we will be seeing if we do those missions for the first time. The beaver and the fox footage shown in that trailer are the cutscenes the player see's when they trigger the mission for the first time from Harriet. There is also the panther/jaguar we see at the very start of the trailer. I'll link the trailer below as a reference. This was the case when Rockstar dropped the "Frontier Pursuits" trailer last year and we saw footage of Yukon, who was a legendary bounty that was dripfed towards the final weeks of that 10 week dripfeed. *On a side/unrelated note, I will be making an extended mix of the music used in the Naturalist trailer and a second remix of the theme that'll be very surprising and interesting to listen to, I hope to get these both out by the end of the week. To summarize everything we can speculate or guess from here on now on what to expect from the rest of the year; - Current dripfeed of legendary animals (when this will last, I'm not so sure but my guess is by December) - Halloween Outlaw Pass in October possibly featuring a new game mode if the 2 new pieces of music I uploaded is anything to go off by - Mid December update, augmentation of a current role As to what I personally think, next year we will possibly hear of a next-gen version announcement of Red Dead Redemption 2 (not sure when) but I just know that they will probably drop a major update for the online component either just before, or slightly after that releases. I'm suspecting this is when online will finally get it's "heists update" moment. What I'm really concerned about though, is the mid 2021 GTA V Next-Gen release schedule, and how that fits into the inevitable re-release of RDR2 for next-gen consoles. I have a feeling online updates will slow down mid next year again. But again, this is Rockstar we are talking about, and I've said it before, they have proved themselves to be completely unpredictable. So we will just have to wait and see. 2021 is going to be a very interesting year, in regards to things slowly returning to normal. I know studios are beginning to start filming again soon, with them to be released in 2021, so I can only imagine motion capture studios will have these restrictions lifted in the same order of manner as well.

Be nice to get those "locked colours" added to LSC right... Maybe one day...

so i just checked that changed line in the german files. before the dlc it was: you can´t modify Police vehicles and now it´s: you can´t modify stolen Police vehicles so buyable Police vehicles were part of CnC

I don't get the shock, personally - we've had things with remarkably close for years. The Warrener has been in the game for over six years - the GP1 for 3.5. And on the other side of the coin, the Locust () came out only a year ago - it's not like there's been a shift in design philosophy at R*. I mean, even GTA IV has some cars that are virtually 1:1 with their real-life inspirations - the Sultan being a really solid Altezza knock-off, for instance. I don't know why the D10 is suddenly a step too far - I can't remember people getting this annoyed about the GTAO take on the Stafford, for example. GTAO (and by extension, HD-era GTA) car design is just inconsistent - that's pretty much the long and short of it. And it's a matter of personal preference which particular approach works for you. It's almost certainly just down to different designers - we've no idea how worked on what car at any given time, or whether someone's joined the vehicle model team at some point in the last seven years, so all we have is speculation, but at the very least, it looks like different artists have different approaches, and that's probably been the case for a long time. That goes for other studios, too - compare the Berkley Stallion from Mafia 3 (arguably a more faithful Mustang pastiche than the Ellie) to the much more obvious mash-up/amalgamation that is the Samson Drifter. In the case of Mafia III, it's not some big secret that some cars were handled internally at Hangar 13, with others being outsourced to studios like Scythgames - so while we can't know for sure the specifics of how R* handles it, at the very least it's not implausible to chalk different design standards/approaches down to different artists. Meanwhile, Mafia II remains the gold standard, IMO - that game only had 2 people (!!), in-house, doing all the cars in the game, and the result is that pretty much everything is consistently designed. And they're also some of the most impressive cases of "how did they even get away with that" - to bring this back on-topic somewhat, here's the Mafia II "Shubert Frigate", compared to an original C1: (for anyone who hasn't played Mafia II, they're all like that - the "Smith Thunderbolt" knocks the Peyote for six, and they weren't even pretending with the "Chaffeque XT"... )

You're bound to see one of these near the Casino, so I had the opportunity to do a quick photoshoot:

Lol I ain’t tryna call anyone out, but if youre still acting like griefing is ok or cool, it’s because you probably do it. It’s trash to act like everyone’s on your leisure time. You don’t have to be an adult to know better than that.

I definitely like this car design wise and period correct customizations are awesome. Shame it's just another garage decoration. Would be nice to have a 4x4 van rivalry between this and Rumpo Custom. C* just needs to fix its off-roading abilities and, while at it, give a little extra "oomph" as well. I also sent C* feedback regarding Youga's shortcomings, though unless others do the same, it will probably be ignored.

If we ever get that Naval DLC, one thig will still be super important for me. The ability to park/freeze/lock our boats on the spot out in the sea. Seriously, it's so annoying to stop th eboat, hop in to swim, and when you get up the boats taking off on it's own journey. COME BAAAAAAAACK!

Yup bought another one..... Never thought it would be a Golf that made me go broke in this game!

Garage queen on a rare outing! With @Cal 333SP

1. Karin Sultan Classic - 48 2. Vapid Ellie - 50 3. Lampadati Komoda - 65 4. Vapid Retinue MK II - 64 > 5. Dinka Sugoi - 16 6. Ocelot Jugular - 64 7. Maibatus Manchez - 15 < 8. Weeny Issi Classic - 32 9. Maxwell Asbo - 2 < 10. Ubermacht Sentinel Classic - 63 Asbo teed up for someone !!

Abandoned and alone

There were mentions of Seth in the day one files, he was supposed to be one of the mission givers. Strangely enough, he got cut from the game. I hardly think we will ever see him again, considering it's about like 2 years now since release and Rockstar never bothered to even process the thought of bringing him back. Although, you never know what sort of plans they have, so there's the possibility that he's reserved for a treasure hunter role.

Today im releasing three new mods! Have fun with these!

It doesn't annoy me, lol. I don't play with the businesses through how warped it all is. Just found it funny you show to understand the complaints get call people idiots for speaking about it on a forum that really is made for discussions is all. Funny.

Understands the problem, yet calls people an idiot for being vocal about it.

GTA Vice City Chain Game Round 52 Complete! Great work everyone, we've completed Round 52 of the GTA Vice City Chain Game. A total of 8 players joined in to take turns throughout the round and together completed the game to 100% in a time of 5 days, 1 hour and 5 minutes! Thanks to all of you for joining in, I hope you all enjoyed playing! Welcome Lancerator to the GTA Vice City Chain Game - Enjoy your stay! Thanks to Bunneyko and resbas for playing! Thanks to Beato_dim, Jimmy and NileshKumar for being active in taking turns throughout the round! Thanks to Assistant Chief SorveteQuente for their active contributions throughout the round and for their continued support and dedication to the Chain Game! And thanks to Assistant Chiefs Parik and thehambone for their continued support and dedication to the Chain Game! GTA Vice City Chain Game Round 52 Statistics Player Name Valid Turns Taken Invalid Turns Taken Total Percentage Average Percentage Beato_dim 8 0 9.09% 1.14% Bunneyko 2 0 1.30% 0.65% GTAKid667 9 0 6.49% 0.72% Jimmy 8 0 5.85% 0.73% Lancerator 3 3 3.25% 1.08% NileshKumar 12 0 48.05% 4.00% resbas 2 0 2.60% 1.30% SorveteQuente 12 0 23.37% 1.95% Total 8 Players 56 Valid Turns 3 Invalid Turns 100.00% 1.79% GTA Vice City Chain Game Round 52 Time Wednesday 12th August 2020 at 12:45 UTC - Monday 17th August 2020 at 13:50 UTC 5 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes - 7,265 minutes in total

Well, when did you ever see me complaining? I'm merely retorting to the points you've made. And the difference between, say, regular sports and the kind of competition you see in GTA business is that sports have a certain symmetry to it - both sides' reward is the same. Lack of symmetry between sides is what I see as the main flaw in sale missions. Also, in SP, player doesn't _really_ harm anyone else's fun. Because no one is playing with him at time, duh.

So here's the second thing, Los Santos Summer Special also added two new particle effects - one for Stun Grenades and one for Flashbangs, with power of scripting it's possible to spawn these ingame, apparently they also added explosion types for both of them, but from my testing, they didn't apply any effects to them yet, it just uses default grenade explosion

here i tried to take images. @PetrolCB @YELLOW ZOOMER WITH DRONE here the freemode one: and here the heist/adversary mode version (it´s hard to get it all in 1 shot without stuff de-spawning and such, bc it´s MASSIVE!:

1. Karin Sultan Classic - 48 2. Vapid Ellie - 50 3. Lampadati Komoda - 65 4. Vapid Retinue MK II - 64 5. Dinka Sugoi - 16 6. Ocelot Jugular - 64 7. Maibatus Manchez - 15 8. Weeny Issi Classic - 32 9. Maxwell Asbo - 0 (-2) 10. Ubermacht Sentinel Classic - 64 (+1) <CS> 1. Karin Sultan Classic - 48 2. Vapid Ellie - 50 3. Lampadati Komoda - 65 4. Vapid Retinue MK II - 64 5. Dinka Sugoi - 16 6. Ocelot Jugular - 64 7. Maibatus Manchez - 15 8. Weeny Issi Classic - 32 9. Ubermacht Sentinel Classic - 64

I think that’s a big part of the problem with the game right now. That attitude right there. “IVE never dealt with them so it doesn’t affect ME, so It’s not a problem”

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1. Karin Sultan Classic - 48 2. Vapid Ellie - 50 (-2) 3. Lampadati Komoda - 65 4. Vapid Retinue MK II - 63 (+1) 5. Dinka Sugoi - 16 6. Ocelot Jugular - 64 7. Maibatus Manchez - 16 8. Weeny Issi Classic - 32 9. Maxwell Asbo - 3 10. Ubermacht Sentinel Classic - 63

If and when we get personal properties I don't want any NPC near them. I don't want any stories that I'll hear a thousand times, in fact, I don't want any talking of any kind. No strangers that actually own the property I'm paying gold for either. If we can "own" hotel rooms, I'll accept the hotel owner/receptionist being downstairs and a maid/bath wench to be available upon request, but that's it, and I'd still prefer for them to be mute or at least only speak when required. But if I can have a shack up in the snow, I want silence and solitude, with the exception of my dog, because f*ck Cripps, he deserves the company less than I want it.

Heists... In public??? HELL NO!

I took mine out for some off-roading and exploring... Then I realized that the situation was just perfect for some photo shooting, and this beautiful girl deserves it: And my favorite off-roading spot, Cassidy Creek, was just around the corner so I just had to go there: Even the hikers had to stop and appreciate her. Putting that snorkel to some good use. Damn fine truck, ain't she? I'm seriously considering calling her Dora BTW, it just fits her so nicely.

Hi guys, I did some liveries comparisons if anyone is interested I didn't make the Pisswasser comparison because i don't find enough similarities with the Brawn GP which is supposed to be, if anyone have a picture don't hesitate to DM me Cheers guys and many thanks for the infos.

Seeing those M-stripes again...

I like the Beater Dukes as much as the Gauntlet Classic. My 2nd favorite car form this DLC after the BF Club. Made one like the Dodge Charger from Bullit: The secondary is #272A30 with Pure Gold texture because the standard Chrome is a little too bright for my liking. I also like the actual beater versions with rust livery, and the stock car versions that can be made.

fyi wikipedia have annotations at the bottom of a page linking sources for information, if you know how to use it it's great tool and villifying it just cause anybody can change it is dumb

1. Karin Sultan Classic - 48 2. Vapid Ellie - 50 3. Lampadati Komoda - 63 -2 4. Vapid Retinue MK II - 65 +1 5. Dinka Sugoi - 16 6. Ocelot Jugular - 64 7. Maibatus Manchez - 15 8. Weeny Issi Classic - 32 9. Ubermacht Sentinel Classic - 64

1. Karin Sultan Classic - 48 2. Vapid Ellie - 52 (+1) 3. Lampadati Komoda - 65 4. Vapid Retinue MK II - 62 5. Dinka Sugoi - 16 6. Ocelot Jugular - 64 7. Maibatus Manchez - 16 8. Weeny Issi Classic - 32 9. Maxwell Asbo - 3 10. Ubermacht Sentinel Classic - 63 (-2)