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Posted A week ago

I posted about this in the modding section but I feel it's better asking here, as it's more of how the original game works.

 

What activity in the game changes the way other gangs behave towards the player?

 

To better explain, I have two 100% save files I done of the game. In one save file, the Ballas will attack CJ on sight, on the other, they don't, they completely ignore him. Vagos also approach CJ when you're near them, but on the other, they totally ignore CJ like the Ballas.

 

There's no differences between the two save files, only the final mission I done to get the 100% (At least that's the only thing I can think of that is different). So what's causing their behaviour to change like this? And can it be 'undone'?

 

Kudos to anyone that can figure it out because I have no idea.


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Posted 4 days ago

i think this usually happens in GTA SA..but anyways it may happen if you have hardly modded game. try removing mods from your game..if your game ins not modded try editing some values in gta sa save game editor.experiment with it you may fix it.


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Posted 3 days ago

Try running the Pimping mission again. IIRC, this will bring the Ballas back to Dislike after getting aggravated to Hate by the story missions.

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Posted A day ago

i think this usually happens in GTA SA..but anyways it may happen if you have hardly modded game. try removing mods from your game..if your game ins not modded try editing some values in gta sa save game editor.experiment with it you may fix it.

This happened on a completely clean install of the game.

 

Try running the Pimping mission again. IIRC, this will bring the Ballas back to Dislike after getting aggravated to Hate by the story missions.

I tried the Pimping missions again, I even tried doing them in San Fierro to see if that would fix it, but no attempt so far has fixed them.


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Posted A day ago

Hm... I wouldn't expect a change in Vagos anyway. To answer the question more directly, there's one story mission that changes the Ballas to Hate - sorry, I forget which. Pimping will reset the Ballas. The infamous Peds Riot Cheat known for causing the Madd Dogg Glitch will cause some peds to hate everyone, but I don't think this effects the gangs. 
 
Compare your saves using the ped preference tool in the Savegame Editor 3.x. All of the behaviors I've described are influenced by these settings. 


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Posted A day ago

Well I've discovered the issue thanks to the savegame editor.

 

For the data that has the ballas attack me on sight, the option is set to 'Hate'. But for my newest save where they don't attack on sight. It's set to 'Dislike'. Everything else is exactly the same in terms of ped stats.

 

I ran a few tests only changing it from 'Dislike' to 'Hate' and back again, and sure enough it's the source of the issue. The only thing left is what mission triggered it, though now I can fix it, I'm not bothered which one it was. Interesting, though. All the years I've played this game this is the first time I've ran into this issue.

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Posted 23 hours ago

If it's just the Ballas then I would expect togging the Pimping mission to reset them to Dislike. Maybe try again now that you can read the flags instead of relying on in-game observations.
 

I found some old notes.
 

Ballas dislike CJ in the beginning. After Drive-By the Ballas hate CJ.
Regardless of any previous settings, the Pimping mission will set the Ballas to like CJ when it starts and to dislike CJ when it ends.





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