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greenrock
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#1

Posted A week ago

couldn't he of easily been croatian or bosnian?


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#2

Posted A week ago

couldn't he of easily been croatian or bosnian?

Niko Bellic was a Serbian. Not a Croatian or Bosnian.

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Posted A week ago Edited by Tycek, A week ago.

Niko was born in Yugoslavia, thus this is his nationality. We may of course debate whether Niko is Serbian or Crotian (there are hints leading to either of them), but I guess R* never cared enough to pay attention to such detail and they simply mixed it together.

 

Examples: 

- Roman refers to their native language as Serbian.

- Both Niko and Roman are Croatian names.

- Roman is getting married to Puerto Rican woman in Catholic church - which means he's more of a Catholic than a Orthodox Christian. 

- Niko describes his participation in the war as more of a guerilla warfare, which could point into direction of Croatia as well, since Yugoslavia (consisted mostly of Serbia and other countries still being part of Federation) used regular army at the time of the war.

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#4

Posted A week ago

they could easily lived on Serbian border with Croatia. i wouldnt really nitpick on those details, nor call em oversights.


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Posted A week ago

I'd say it is a very well thought out how he/they are portrayed. They didn't want to make either of those, or any other nationality. They gave him charasteristics of both sides, and told us that he is eastern european. That is enough info for the player, nobody gets offended and everyone who is concerned with that war gets a hero/villain. Not just one.


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Posted A week ago Edited by Cheatz/Trickz, A week ago.

There's no real confirmation as to what his true nationality is and I think that was the intention. All Rockstar wanted us to know was that he is from the Balkans and so they reference multiple countries from that region to keep it vague.

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Posted A week ago Edited by DirtCheap, A week ago.

I think he's definitely a Serb for the following reasons:

 

1. At the start of the game, Roman says to Niko 'I must brush up on my Serbian'

2. I have heard many Serbs confirm he speaks Serbian, but the pronunciation is horrible

3. Niko gets an e-mail from his mother who typed in Serbian to him. 

4. I know he's not a Croat as Serbia and Croatia aren't exactly best friends and it would be odd seeing a Croat speaking the language of his country's not-so-best-friend country

 

Also, R* pretty much confirmed he's a Serb

Lol at the SJW

 

 

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Posted A week ago Edited by NeonDolphin, A week ago.

- Roman is getting married to Puerto Rican woman in Catholic church - which means he's more of a Catholic than a Orthodox Christian. 

 

Or he simply accepted Mallorie's choice of church.


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#9

Posted A week ago

That R* support answer is pretty priceless. I have to give them that. At least this topic is not about Niko being Russian. Even in this forum there are many who actually think that he is. And that is a bit ignorant. Or more than a bit.

 

I have always thought that Niko is Serbian. There is enough evidence to point you in that direction. But it is also true that R* could have put a little more effort in making him and Roman more authentic. I still applaud that they tried to do something different.

 

Also when you think that many people believe that Niko is Russian - do you think that making him more authentic would have made any difference? Off course some people (especially in Europe) would have noticed the difference, but the masses wouldn't notice anything like that or even care.


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Posted A week ago

Niko and Roman are definitely Serbian. A Croat or Bosniak would certainly not call his language Serbian. 
Also the war Niko was in is most likely to be the Kosovo War since Niko would have been too young to participate in the war in Croatia and Bosnia. This also points to his home being in Kosovo itself, which makes him quite certainly Serbian. (Or maybe Montenegrin?!  :p )

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Posted 5 days ago

I have always thought he was Serbian there are just so many little things pointing too it. He makes a point of saying in the game that hes not Russian, he makes that clear in the gunshop when he picks up his present,  "Im not Russian"


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Posted 5 days ago Edited by Lock n' Stock, 5 days ago.

Lol at the SJW

 

 

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What a complete and utter f*ckwit, Rockstar shut her up good.


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Posted 5 days ago Edited by lol232, 5 days ago.

- Roman is getting married to Puerto Rican woman in Catholic church - which means he's more of a Catholic than a Orthodox Christian.

Or he simply accepted Mallorie's choice of church.


This. He probably doesn't care, plus we have Catholics as well.
Also a really sh*tty reason: There isn't an Orthodox Church in LC for all we know.

P.S. Niko has a Serbian flag when playing darts.

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Posted 5 days ago Edited by Cebra, 5 days ago.

That Rockstar support post is fake as f*ck. I get the temptation to sh*t on SJWs without doing any research but I mean come on.

There's no record of it archived or otherwise, Rockstar would never be so outright hostile to a consumer no matter how dumb they're being, and it's full of spelling errors. This has been making the rounds on right-wing bullsh*t sites for the past year and gets debunked every time. Some of you are so damn gullible.
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Posted 5 days ago

 

 

- Roman is getting married to Puerto Rican woman in Catholic church - which means he's more of a Catholic than a Orthodox Christian.

Or he simply accepted Mallorie's choice of church.

 


This. He probably doesn't care, plus we have Catholics as well.
Also a really sh*tty reason: There isn't an Orthodox Church in LC for all we know.

P.S. Niko has a Serbian flag when playing darts.

 

if that dart thing is true

 

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Posted 5 days ago Edited by Tycek, 5 days ago.

 

 

- Roman is getting married to Puerto Rican woman in Catholic church - which means he's more of a Catholic than a Orthodox Christian.

Or he simply accepted Mallorie's choice of church.

 


This. He probably doesn't care, plus we have Catholics as well.
Also a really sh*tty reason: There isn't an Orthodox Church in LC for all we know.

P.S. Niko has a Serbian flag when playing darts.

 

The reason about the church isn't the best one, I know but it's better than nothing. I'm not trying to prove that Niko isn't Serbian, but that not all details fit either way (like names for example).

 

While playing darts there is indeed a flag on the fletching, yet without any other markings. Just three stripes, white,blue and red. While serbian flag has this colours, so does russian and slovenian. These three colours, just in different order were used on many flags of the nations being united in the Yugoslavian Federation. 


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Posted 4 days ago

He's Serbian R* said it loud and clear. The darts he plays has the color of the Serbian flag, same with the motorcycle helmet he wears.

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Posted 4 days ago Edited by lol232, 4 days ago.

The reason about the church isn't the best one, I know but it's better than nothing. I'm not trying to prove that Niko isn't Serbian, but that not all details fit either way (like names for example).
 
While playing darts there is indeed a flag on the fletching, yet without any other markings. Just three stripes, white,blue and red. While serbian flag has this colours, so does russian and slovenian. These three colours, just in different order were used on many flags of the nations being united in the Yugoslavian Federation.


I mean, Bosnians and Croats would never say they speak Serbian, ever. Also, a Serbian flag without any markings and only colors is also accepted. It's in the correct order as well.
Not that I hate Croats or Bosnians, I'm just stating the facts.

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Posted 2 days ago

I will just leave you Niko's Serbian quotes, translated above by some nice YT user called "Metal Crotch Guy"

 

 

1. "Seronja" - sh*thead

2. "Ti si idiot" - You're an idiot
3. "Policijski kerovi" - Police dogs
4. "Kreten" - Idiot/Jerk
5. "Dosadan si" - You're annoying
6. "Zajebi" - f*ck it
7. "Zaveži" - Shut up
8. "Ti si patetičan" - You're pathetic
9. "Jebi se" - f*ck you
10. "Ti si kreten" - You're an idiot/jerk
11. "Ti si seronja" - You're a sh*thead
12. "Lepa zemlja, drago mi je da ne plačam porez!" - Beautiful country, I'm glad I don't pay tax
13. "Šta je ovo?" - What is this?
14. "Ostavi me na miru!" - Leave me alone
15. "Ti si slab i spor, prijatelju" - You're weak and slow, my friend
16. "Glupi Ameri" - Stupid Americans
17. "Zašto radiš to sebi?" - Why are you doing that to yourself?
18. "Očeš da te ubijem?" - Do you want me to kill you?
19. "Koja ti je posljednja želja?" - What is your last wish?
20. "To boli!" - That hurts
21. "Bori se, budalo!" - Fight, you moron
22. "Da vidimo šta znaš!" - Let's see what you know!
23. "Provaj me, budalo!" - Try me, you moron!
24. "Do đavla!" - Damn it!
25. "Seronje" - sh*theads
26. "Ovo je sranje" - This is sh*t
27. "Prokletstvo" - Damn
28. "Ti si slučaj za psihijatra!" - You are a case for a psychiatrist!
29. "Jebeno isto" - f*cking same
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Posted A day ago Edited by _P136_, A day ago.

- Both Niko and Roman are Croatian names.

- Roman is getting married to Puerto Rican woman in Catholic church - which means he's more of a Catholic than a Orthodox Christian. 

- Niko describes his participation in the war as more of a guerilla warfare, which could point into direction of Croatia as well, since Yugoslavia (consisted mostly of Serbia and other countries still being part of Federation) used regular army at the time of the war.

Early on I assumed he was Serbian. I think it even says so in the game. Interesting idea about the wedding though.

 

As for the name, Niko is short for Nicholas, of Greek origin, and definitely present in the Eastern Orthodox tradition. I'm not that familiar with the region but it seems the name Niko could equally be Serbian or Croatian, while Roman is not particularly common in either but popular in Russia, which probably explains why it ended up in the game. Regarding their combat experience, paramilitaries and guerrilla warfare were employed by every side.

 

In the end I guess it was just a minor story detail for the developers. If they cared more, for starters they should have made him speak his mother tongue better. Although I don't even know the language, it sounds very artificial to me how he for example says "neverovatno" ('unbelievable', I think; sorry if the spelling is off). Also, it seems he forgot how to pronounce his own last name the moment he stepped off the ship: there should be a soft sound like the /ch/ in English, and not the hard /k/ sound ("Bellik"). This is one of the the only two minor gripes I have with this great game.





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