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Posted 05 January 2018 - 08:00 PM

I was having this debate the other day, and the sale really helped me make up my mind. Personally I love the fact I can now 'own' a Phantom, plus it makes Haulage kinda fun and trolling tryhard wanna bes that don't get why they can't blow it up is an added bonus lol. 


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 01:11 AM

^ MOC has its specific vehicle request button, no need to call mechanic. Bonus is vehicle stored in MOC can be requested in heist even it is a jet, lol.

But can it be a Deluxo, oppressor, personal aircraft, etc? The Hydra and Lazer are already Pegasus vehicles which can be called in during heists anyway.

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 02:03 AM

^ MOC has its specific vehicle request button, no need to call mechanic. Bonus is vehicle stored in MOC can be requested in heist even it is a jet, lol.

But can it be a Deluxo, oppressor, personal aircraft, etc? The Hydra and Lazer are already Pegasus vehicles which can be called in during heists anyway.

Yes, any vehicle stored in MOC, Oppressor, APC can be requested in heist.

No, Pegasus vehicle is not available in heist.
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Posted 06 January 2018 - 06:19 AM

so it lets you request MOC during the heist and enter it to get your extra vehicle in use?


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 06:51 AM

so it lets you request MOC during the heist and enter it to get your extra vehicle in use?


Destroy the car you choose after heist started then request vehicle from MOC.
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Posted 06 January 2018 - 07:38 AM Edited by ACM-Jan, 06 January 2018 - 07:39 AM.

and how you request vehicle from moc, mechanic dont recognize moc as storage?

was there vehicle request option in MOC menu really? i havent used that thing and menu for long time.

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 07:40 AM

and how you request vehicle from moc, mechanic dont recognize moc as storage?


Mechanic won't take you call in heist literally. The magic is MOC menu had its specific request pv option, check it.
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Posted 06 January 2018 - 07:42 AM

maybe ive forgotten it because i been getting good at on foot free aim killing


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 08:21 AM Edited by pptz84, 06 January 2018 - 08:17 AM.

 

 

^ MOC has its specific vehicle request button, no need to call mechanic. Bonus is vehicle stored in MOC can be requested in heist even it is a jet, lol.

But can it be a Deluxo, oppressor, personal aircraft, etc? The Hydra and Lazer are already Pegasus vehicles which can be called in during heists anyway.

Yes, any vehicle stored in MOC, Oppressor, APC can be requested in heist.

No, Pegasus vehicle is not available in heist.

 

 

 

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Is this something new? As far as I know flying or amphibian vehicles cannot be used in Heists.  

Please elaborate if you found a way to use them.


Im confused what does the Avenger do that the MoC doesnt?

 

Im finally buying a Bunker and the MoC since its on sale.  I think the whole setup im going for will be cheaper than just the Avenger.  Just curious what the Avenger does to maybe purchase it later down the line.

 

I think you made the right choice for getting the bunker stuff going, and be able to do the vehicle missions. 

The Avenger is a flying fortress, fun fooling around with, but you can do without. Hasn't got a lot of practicle use if you own a MOC truck already. 

If yr short on cash, you could consider waiting for a discount. 

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 02:04 PM

 

 

Yes, any vehicle stored in MOC, Oppressor, APC can be requested in heist.

No, Pegasus vehicle is not available in heist.

 

 

 

?

 

Is this something new? As far as I know flying or amphibian vehicles cannot be used in Heists.  

Please elaborate if you found a way to use them.


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Posted 06 January 2018 - 02:23 PM Edited by LordLoff, 06 January 2018 - 02:23 PM.

Yes it does have use - because of the double switch bay you cant have vehicle storage and workshop at the same time and since the Avenger does not have permanent storage the best thing to do is to have the vehicle upgrade workshop only on the Avenger, that will not erase its capacity for carrying vehicles one a journey or mission and use the MOC only for weapon and permanent vehicle storage
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Posted 06 January 2018 - 02:55 PM Edited by ash-274, 06 January 2018 - 02:56 PM.

Yes it does have use - because of the double switch bay you cant have vehicle storage and workshop at the same time and since the Avenger does not have permanent storage the best thing to do is to have the vehicle upgrade workshop only on the Avenger, that will not erase its capacity for carrying vehicles one a journey or mission and use the MOC only for weapon and permanent vehicle storage


But is that worth over $4.5M? Yes, if youre using the MOC PV-storage for car duping, but if youre not?

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 03:15 PM

 

Yes it does have use - because of the double switch bay you cant have vehicle storage and workshop at the same time and since the Avenger does not have permanent storage the best thing to do is to have the vehicle upgrade workshop only on the Avenger, that will not erase its capacity for carrying vehicles one a journey or mission and use the MOC only for weapon and permanent vehicle storage


But is that worth over $4.5M? Yes, if youre using the MOC PV-storage for car duping, but if youre not?

 

Aircraft from MOC spawn real close, like ceo vehicle close. 5:58

 

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 03:55 PM

Interesting, but not a sales point, for me.

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 04:30 PM

Anyone else noticed that there is a repair vehicle fee in the avenger workshop yet the MOC workshop repairs vehicles for nothing?
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Posted 07 January 2018 - 02:24 AM Edited by ACM-Jan, 07 January 2018 - 02:24 AM.

OH HELL NO, im ot messing up my perfectly set up grarages to glitch the pegasus crap in MOC and i want to access moc sometimes for spcial ammo.


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Posted 07 January 2018 - 10:11 AM Edited by Gridl0k, 07 January 2018 - 10:17 AM.

^ Nice of that man to take time out of robbing stagecoaches to explain the MOC glitch.

 

(Aircraft in MOC is now patched btw)

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 02:30 PM

It can dupe vehicles like magic.


Anybody that has info on a working duping method for xbox one, send me a PM. Ones I've found online all seem to have been patched.

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 02:54 PM

In my experience, the MOC tends to spawn not very close to me. The Avenger has done that better in my experience. In the city you'd think it would have problems finding a spot but they (so far, from what I've seen) seem to have done a decent job picking spawn locations for it using parks, top floors (rooftops) of parking structures and such.

 

Minor thing that I also like is the fact I CAN actually go from the cockpit to the hold and back. With the MOC you always have to leave the trailer to get into the cab and vice versa. It's hardly something you can quickly use on your own. Come to think of it, the turrets (if you have them) in the MOC are locked to their respective stations, if I recall correctly. There's a length animation for both sitting down and getting up from a chair like in most other places. Highly inconvenient and extremely restricting if you're on your own and trying to take on hostile players.

The Avenger allows you to sit down more quickly AND change between turrets from a single station.

 

I don't know or care for value of vehicles in glitches and I think it's fairly obvious that the Avenger has a bunch more advantages than the MOC. But the MOC is just a fun truck to have, innit?

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:47 AM

^ Nice of that man to take time out of robbing stagecoaches to explain the MOC glitch.
 
(Aircraft in MOC is now patched btw)



It's back, lol.
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 04:52 AM

I have to say i have had way more fun in free mode since getting the MOC. Haulage has to be the most entertaining thing in a full room and the 20k is a bonus thanks again for talking me into grabbing it. 


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 09:54 AM

Yes! Do not buy the vehicle workshop for the Avenger! only the weapon bench (so you can mod/refill your ammunition in peace without having a guy standing near you talking constantly). Get the vehicle workshop only for the MOC. I ruined my game/character yesterday by buying the vehicle workshop for the Avenger aswell and now the bikery-mechanic guy is there too and after submitting a support ticket, I got a genuine top tier (no tier) response and they actually can't remove the v. workshop, so I'm stuck with a chatterbox while I mod weapons or vehicles in the Avenger.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:03 AM

^ The ability to take a vehicle anywhere on the map and drop it out the back more than makes up for the clone biker guy, imo.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:21 PM

^ The ability to take a vehicle anywhere on the map and drop it out the back more than makes up for the clone biker guy, imo.

Now if only that was "any" instead of "a" it would be even better. Don't really get why they put in that restriction.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 08:04 PM

Well yeah the vehicle workshop will only work on certain vehicles, so I get the limit. I suspect the Avenger might have had a PV bay if the MOC hadn't featured in about 20 different money glitches..

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 09:40 PM

Yes! Do not buy the vehicle workshop for the Avenger! only the weapon bench (so you can mod/refill your ammunition in peace without having a guy standing near you talking constantly). Get the vehicle workshop only for the MOC. I ruined my game/character yesterday by buying the vehicle workshop for the Avenger aswell and now the bikery-mechanic guy is there too and after submitting a support ticket, I got a genuine top tier (no tier) response and they actually can't remove the v. workshop, so I'm stuck with a chatterbox while I mod weapons or vehicles in the Avenger.

While I don't care about the guy, did you own and fly the Avenger before putting the Vehicle Workshop in?

I keep asking if you can put vehicles (Weaponized, at least) in the back if you DON'T have the workshop and I'm getting answers going both ways.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 04:56 AM

 

Yes! Do not buy the vehicle workshop for the Avenger! only the weapon bench (so you can mod/refill your ammunition in peace without having a guy standing near you talking constantly). Get the vehicle workshop only for the MOC. I ruined my game/character yesterday by buying the vehicle workshop for the Avenger aswell and now the bikery-mechanic guy is there too and after submitting a support ticket, I got a genuine top tier (no tier) response and they actually can't remove the v. workshop, so I'm stuck with a chatterbox while I mod weapons or vehicles in the Avenger.

While I don't care about the guy, did you own and fly the Avenger before putting the Vehicle Workshop in?

I keep asking if you can put vehicles (Weaponized, at least) in the back if you DON'T have the workshop and I'm getting answers going both ways.

 

Yes it only accepted weaponized vehicles even before putting the vworkshop in.

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 05:39 AM

Yes! Do not buy the vehicle workshop for the Avenger! only the weapon bench (so you can mod/refill your ammunition in peace without having a guy standing near you talking constantly). Get the vehicle workshop only for the MOC. I ruined my game/character yesterday by buying the vehicle workshop for the Avenger aswell and now the bikery-mechanic guy is there too and after submitting a support ticket, I got a genuine top tier (no tier) response and they actually can't remove the v. workshop, so I'm stuck with a chatterbox while I mod weapons or vehicles in the Avenger.

While I don't care about the guy, did you own and fly the Avenger before putting the Vehicle Workshop in?
I keep asking if you can put vehicles (Weaponized, at least) in the back if you DON'T have the workshop and I'm getting answers going both ways.
Yes it only accepted weaponized vehicles even before putting the vworkshop in.
I know it’s weaponized-only, but I want to be sure I can fly those around without dropping $750k on a workshop I already have in my MOC

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 02:50 PM

^^^Yes, you can.
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Posted 09 January 2018 - 07:24 PM Edited by ash-274, 09 January 2018 - 07:24 PM.

After finally getting a solid answer, I bought my bare-bones Avenger.  The weapon and vehicle workshops (and maybe the turrets, since they're useful when solo) will be installed when they're on sale.

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