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Was John Marston a racist?

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greenrock
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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:15 PM

towards the end of the game, he starts killing Native Americans

 

but he should know about the historical treatment of the Natives, and yet he fights them

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:47 PM

50th topic.

 

 

I don't believe he would be racist. The natives had been apart of Dutch's gang. However of course they joined from what seemed to be described by the whites poor treatment of them made the Natives join Dutch. Still however they were criminals in this case when John was killing them.

 

We also see from the mission "The Gates of El Presidio" that John calls out reyes and other mexicans for their poor treatement of the chinese workers in the country. 

John then proceeds to tell Reyes that no matter where a man is from, John will treat them right as long as they do the same in return.

 

John was a good man, and I don't think he was particularly racist. 

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Posted 31 December 2017 - 07:03 PM

yea he wasent racist. him and nastas got along fine. marston was forced to kill the natives because they were part of dutches gang. if it werent for ross forcing him he never would have killed them.


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Posted 31 December 2017 - 08:43 PM

He was a privileged, cis-gendered, heteronormative WHITE man, so yes, he was racist. #MeToo.

But yah, I don't recall him being racist at any point in the game. I do however recall one of the side characters calling the Chinese 'an inferior race'. Whether Marston was racist or not I don't really care.
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Posted 01 January 2018 - 05:56 PM

No, in Undead Nightmare he's disgusted with Herbert Moon's bigotry and lets him get eaten by zombies because of it.

UD isn't canon but it still shows John's character.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 06:02 PM

He was killing natives because they were part of dutch's new gang, the natives were defending dutch and John kill them to get to and kill Dutch to get his family back. 


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Posted 17 January 2018 - 11:37 PM

Johnny being a racist? Man, are you mad? Marston was the more political correct person in the game. Also, killing Natives was a official sport in nineteenth-century America LOL (poor people)


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:29 AM

1911 wasn't the most progressive time to exist in lmao.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 10:10 PM Edited by Yinepi, 18 January 2018 - 10:20 PM.

John made it clear numerous times throughout the story that he wasn't fond of racism. He criticized the Mexican army for their treatment of Chinese laborers, he was comfortable being in Nastas' presence. In the zombie dlc, he left Herbert Moon for dead because of his bigotry.
 

1911 wasn't the most progressive time to exist in lmao.

People in 100 years from now will be looking back at this time in history and saying the same thing. All of history is progressive. Back in the early 1900's it was acceptable to commit many of the acts and attitudes presented by some of the characters. Comparing the early 1900's culture to current day using current thought processes just isn't a feasible comparison.

That'd be like saying calling an astronomer in the 1700s a witch is bad because nowadays they are respected. It's just not feasible given back in the 1700s not many even knew what an astronomer was.


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 07:23 PM

If you played the game you'd know the answer.
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Posted 21 January 2018 - 02:36 PM

If you played the game you'd know the answer.

 

Ikr?

 

OP just straight up says John was killing Native Americans as if he was an ultra racist and the goal of the game was to track down and massacre as many Natives as possible.

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