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#1

Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:05 AM

I decided to make a comparison thread similar to Manhunt/Manhunt 2 Vehicle Discussion, as I think it will be interesting to compare the newly uncovered beta vehicles vs their final counterparts.

 

I will start with Cheetah vs Rocket (or Testeros, model is same):

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While shape-wise it remains almost the same, notable changes in the final version can be seen in the more detailed front window, removed front plate, replaced badges with emblems, almost completely remodeled rear, smaller rear plate, modeled exhausts and re-positioned front wheel arches. Also not limited to Rocket only, all vehicles in beta appear to be 10x smaller.

 

In my opinion, Rocket looks better, but only after the wheel arches are re-positioned like Cheetah's.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 10:34 AM

Excellent stuff as usual RF, looking forward to more comparisons.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:19 PM

The vehicle size in final versions were reduced but not that much noticable. Early 2000s saw the removal of front plates in vehicles around the US, which is why they removed the front plates I guess. The window grills were better detailed and mostly the poly quality of models were improved to make it seem less.cartoonish.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:52 PM

Where did you found the beta model?


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 06:58 PM

Both look nice, I don't have any preference.


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 10:03 PM

Both cars looks almost at the same size, excluding their obvious differences.


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Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:05 AM Edited by Arrow, 17 December 2017 - 03:25 PM.

Where did you found the beta model?

Lots of reference to those in old promos, IGN Screenshots and pre-release content. There have been modifications based off Beta Vehicles as well.

Jinx beat me to it.

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 03:16 PM Edited by Jinx., 17 December 2017 - 03:21 PM.

 

Where did you found the beta model?

Lots of reference to those in old promos, IGN Screenshots and pre-release content. There have been modifications based off Beta Vehicles as well.

 

No it's not. They are from vehicles.dff from the Android port. Not blaming you though, since the discussion regarding them were kept only in the GTA3D thread.

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Posted 20 December 2017 - 03:02 PM

MattJ255 has done some great videos on GTA 3's beta vehicles...


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Posted 26 December 2017 - 01:07 PM

nice textures for rocket dude


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:11 PM

its original textures?MjGRdt4lg00.jpg


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 08:22 PM

It is from the Coach texture. :)

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 05:08 AM

The Coach has the beta Rocket textures in it?


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 05:48 AM

It is from the Coach texture. :)

its joke?

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 08:51 AM Edited by Sergiu, 28 December 2017 - 08:52 AM.

No, look for it if you want.

I know from when we remade the Rocket.
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Posted 28 December 2017 - 10:44 AM Edited by kretin8, 28 December 2017 - 10:46 AM.

No, look for it if you want.
I know from when we remade the Rocket.

cool man, wow i can not belive this

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:46 AM Edited by Gamerjman19, 23 January 2018 - 06:46 AM.

The only thing that bothers me about those textures is how they're mapped onto the car. They're not straight.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 07:49 PM Edited by tetleyTA, 24 January 2018 - 09:24 PM.

 

 

Where did you found the beta model?

Lots of reference to those in old promos, IGN Screenshots and pre-release content. There have been modifications based off Beta Vehicles as well.

 

No it's not. They are from vehicles.dff from the Android port. Not blaming you though, since the discussion regarding them were kept only in the GTA3D thread.

 

Wait. Which Android version contains this file? The one I got (1.3 AFAIK) has plenty of .img files. Variety of oldveh/fixedveh and actual gta3.img. Can't find vehicles.dff anywhere inside them.

 

And how would they fit more than one car model in a single .dff file? What's more intriguing is the fact that fixedveh.atc/.unc/.dxt/.pvr contains coach model with textures only. 

 

EDIT: Nevermind, got it. I have another question though, how can I open vehicles.dff? Using a ZModeler or something else?


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Posted 26 January 2018 - 07:08 AM Edited by Jinx., 26 January 2018 - 07:09 AM.

I released the separated models on the BETA Cars thread.

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Posted 27 January 2018 - 12:29 AM

I released the separated models on the BETA Cars thread.

 

 

 

Did you extract these cars from vehicles.dff file, decoding them with HEX editor? Trying to crack dff structure but don't know how to start it.


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Posted 27 January 2018 - 08:19 AM

 

I released the separated models on the BETA Cars thread.

 

 

 

Did you extract these cars from vehicles.dff file, decoding them with HEX editor? Trying to crack dff structure but don't know how to start it.

 

The Hero extracted them a while ago with his tool iirc. I just released them to the public so no one would have to mess with that file at all.

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 05:05 AM

The Hero extracted them a while ago with his tool iirc. I just released them to the public so no one would have to mess with that file at all.

I put them with all my alpha stuff pictures I have saved. Makes me think about putting together a data resource that has every alpha file, and found information put together.

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Posted 30 January 2018 - 03:24 PM

 

 

I released the separated models on the BETA Cars thread.

 

 

 

Did you extract these cars from vehicles.dff file, decoding them with HEX editor? Trying to crack dff structure but don't know how to start it.

 

The Hero extracted them a while ago with his tool iirc. I just released them to the public so no one would have to mess with that file at all.

 

Thanks man. I'll check it out. I will write to these people aswell. I'd like to try doing this myself aswell. Gotta learn somtehing new. Seeing you guys pulling great job, ripping cut content out of single files and what not. 

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:44 PM

Sorry for the bump, but when is the next vehicle comparison coming? Or has this just been forgotten?


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:32 AM

pls

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