Now that it's widely known we'll be playing alongside Dutch's gang in RDR II, I thought it'd be a good idea to compile all the information we have about it from the first game. I recently replayed the game and wrote down any and all references to Dutch and his gang. I thought this might help us get some speculation going while we wait out this news drought.
1. They've Never Been To New Austin- In RDR, John remarks to Bonnie that he and Dutch's gang never made it down to New Austin, but that they always wanted to, due to it's status as a mostly lawless place.
Bonnie: How well do you know New Austin?
John: don't. We talked about coming down here many times, but we never made it.
Bonnie: Who's "we"?
John: Me and the folks I used to, used to work with.Yeah, New Austin, the last real outlaw country. Where the old ways still hold true. You do a man wrong, he'll shoot you for it. You do a man right... Well, he may still shoot you for it. But at least you have an idea of what's right and what's wrong here.
2. They Were Active In West Elizabeth- Dutch and his gang were active in West Elizabeth, terrorizing and robbing from it. This makes sense, especially because West Elizabeth looks to be making a return in the new game, as per the leaked map. Newspaper excerpts from RDR make this clear:
"Not since Dutch Van Der Linde's crew was operating up in West Elizabeth has a criminal group caused so much consternation, nor gained so much publicity."
3. They Were Also Active In "The West"- â€‹Before they came to New Elizabeth or any of the areas in the new map, they were active out west. This can be easily surmised from a few statements. The Stranger from the I Know You missions tells John:
"I know you from back out West..."
In the trailer, Arthur also states:
"They chased us from the West, they chased us over the mountains..."
4. Members- In RDR, we're only made aware of five former members of Dutch's gang, those being John Marston, Bill Williamson, Javier Escuella, Dutch himself, and Abigail Marston. It would make sense if their was other members in the past that just weren't mentioned. The backgrounds we're given on each gang member is as follows: John Marston was saved from a hanging by Dutch and subsequently joined his gang, learning to read under Dutch's tutelage. Bill was a former soldier who joined Dutch's cause. Javier was an early Mexican revolutionary from Nuevo Pariso who joined up with the gang and idolized Dutch. Abigail was a prostitute who rode with the gang and slept with everyone in the gang.
5. Feats- They robbed over 40 banks, killed hundreds of people, robbed trains, and rustled horses. According to John, they stole from rich people and institutions and gave back to the poor, romanticizing themselves as some kind of western Robin Hoods. At one point they even raided a ferry.
6. Dissolution- As the years crept on, Dutch slowly went insane, using meaningless violence to mask his pain. This caused his fellow gang members to go insane as well, especially Javier, who was hit the hardest by this turn of events. After a botched robbery in 1906, after John was left for dead, the gang dissolved, and it was thought that Dutch was dead too.
7. Philosophy- The gang saw the encroaching government as just another more powerful gang, with no interest for the common people of the country. They were practically secessionists, who wanted to create a new and different society, which seems to resemble anarcho-communism. Despite all of their efforts, the government continued to expand their control of the population, and in the face of the futility of his cause, began to lash out With less and less discrimination.
Dutch: Looks like it's me and you, John. You should have stayed at home. Working for the government, John. After all I taught you. I'm ashamed.
Marston: I don't have a choice.
Dutch: There's always a choice! You're just too blind to see.
Marston: They got my family.
Dutch: Your family? Abigail was any man's wife, John. And Jack, he's another whore's son, just like you. You're weak. You always were. You never had the stomach for this.
Marston: For what? You got no idea what you're killin' for.
Dutch: You never could see what I see, John. You were too scared. You'll never get me to surrender! You better kill me, John!
Marston: If that's how it's gotta be.
Dutch: Well come on and get it then. Come closer! I got a surprise for you!
Marston: There's no more surprises. It ends here! So this is it? Your savage utopia, up here in the mountains?
Dutch: You wouldn't understand.
Marston: It's all in your head, Dutch. That's what drove you insane. What have you done? Apart from murder people. What have you changed, Dutch?
Dutch: More than you'll ever know.