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Do you think GTA should be rated as "Adults Only" (AO)

  1. Yes. (26 votes [44.83%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.83%

  2. No. (32 votes [55.17%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 55.17%

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#31

Posted 19 November 2017 - 05:37 PM Edited by Brian_O_Malley, 19 November 2017 - 05:40 PM.

a little Off Topic, but i don't understand why GTA can't ramp up its violence while avoiding the dreaded AO rating.

While i go around los santos headshooting people like this

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I can do much worse in the Commonwealth of Fallout

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and while the general setting in Fallout is a fantasy world, and killing gouls and mutants isn't a big deal, you can still blow innocent people's limbs and eat their flesh in an almost normal-looking place like a farm or bar... this isn't really a light and fantasy subject.
But fallout isn't AO, as far as i know.

So why GTA would risk an AO with more violence?

 

Because they done it before
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And apparently they were testing it out in the beta stages of V

Fallout is a great series as well, Pretty f*cked up though, Did you know you could kill children and become a porn actor in the old games? in 1 or 2 i think

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Posted 21 November 2017 - 06:59 PM

I only played GTA 3 Vice City and san Andreas and the GTA don't contain an extreme violence ; you can't cut people in 2 with a chainsaw, you won't find skinned corpses hanged by the the feet or impaled, you can't explode the corpses like in Half-Life so in my opinion an adult only rating would a bit exaggerated.


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#33

Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:04 PM

a little Off Topic, but i don't understand why GTA can't ramp up its violence while avoiding the dreaded AO rating.

While i go around los santos headshooting people like this

I can do much worse in the Commonwealth of Fallout

and while the general setting in Fallout is a fantasy world, and killing gouls and mutants isn't a big deal, you can still blow innocent people's limbs and eat their flesh in an almost normal-looking place like a farm or bar... this isn't really a light and fantasy subject.
But fallout isn't AO, as far as i know.

So why GTA would risk an AO with more violence?


The setting changes everything. GTA world, no matter what year the story takes place in, always appear closer to the world we are living in, unlike Fallout.

I'm no psychologist so I can't explain. But I do feel more 'sorry' when I blow up GTA3 peds to pieces, compared to blowing innocent NPC over Fallout 4 to chunks even though FO4 gore has more detail than GTA3.

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Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:45 PM

Many of those who voted 'yes' probably started playing the series since they were 12 years old. 


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Posted 22 November 2017 - 05:18 PM Edited by mzt, 22 November 2017 - 05:30 PM.

Many of those who voted 'yes' probably started playing the series since they were 12 years old.

 
In my case, yes; first played San Andreas when i was 12 because i had to listen to my friends talking about Vice City and San Andreas at the school lunch table for three years and couldn't say anything. I think it would be true of 80%+ of everyone on this forum who have been playing before IV came out, that they started playing before they were old enough to buy the game themselves. It does't make it right, and it's no reason for Rockstar to crib their content to appeal to younger players. Now adult gamers are on the internet which has no restrictions on advertising and discussing AO-rated games.
 
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The wording on the ESRB website concerning AO is: "Content suitable only for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency." -- And M may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.
 
Then if you look up the rating description for Manhunt 2 on PC, it's: "Blood and Gore, Intense Violence, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Drugs" which is the exact same description as the M-rated versions, showing that the ESRB cannot be trusted to write good descriptions.  :pp  What seems to have got Manhunt 2 was especially graphic and visceral depictions of violence (described in this link, not pictured) which were cut out in the M-rated version; much more than blowing off chunks of mutant flesh or severing the limbs of pedestrians.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 01:44 PM

Nah, I'm fine with the way it is, in fact, I fail to see the point of that.

Though I would support the change if we had more visceral and gore violence, I'm talking about REAL entry/exit bullet hole wounds and dismemberment.

I find it quite egregious to blast at point-blank with a 12-gauge and only see some blood pond on the sidewalk and some katchup on their bodies, almost immersion breaking if you ask me.
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Posted 23 November 2017 - 01:47 PM

It already is 'Adults Only' is it not?  It's 18+ anywhere I can think of at least.  Or do you mean, off shelves and you need to go asking where it's kept?  Wouldn't make uch of a difference I don't think.


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Posted 23 November 2017 - 07:05 PM Edited by Brian_O_Malley, 23 November 2017 - 07:14 PM.

Many of those who voted 'yes' probably started playing the series since they were 12 years old. 

 

And i say most people who voted 'no' are still underage, Or fans of V


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Posted 24 November 2017 - 02:22 AM Edited by jaljax, 24 November 2017 - 02:23 AM.

Coming from realistic violence it kinda looked that way in Gta III with the limbs falling off from explosion's & shooting's

 

Other then that i'd like them to step up the rating, but if anyone think's that's going to stop children's parent's from buying AO rating game's for they're kid's you'd be mistaken lol just saying ... 


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Posted 28 January 2018 - 09:05 PM

I vote 'yes' because i think fewer kids should be playing GTA.

I would like to see more comic violence, like you say, but the HD graphics make that less attractive. - Could it be used as an opportunity to explore darker themes in the story? TLAD has been the peak of darkness so far, but we're playing a crime game and it feels like a Disney movie. Sometimes it seems like there are no consequences to being a criminal; just a lot of fun and hijinks.

 

Thats because fans weren't happy with the direction GTA IV and TLAD took. Those are the only two stories of the series that actually show the consequences to being a criminal and they have rather dark endings.

 

With TBOGT and V we got cheesy disney endings where everything is fine at the end, just like SA before. 


I'd love an AO rating so the characters can engage in uncensored f*cking(where they actually take their clothes off), but it won't happen.

 

As long as they don't go too explicit, you can show f*cking (with clothes taken off) in games as the Witcher series shows.

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Posted 28 January 2018 - 11:17 PM Edited by SMACKED!, 28 January 2018 - 11:43 PM.

Pointless; unfortunely, rate won't prevent five to sixteen year olds from playing GTA.

 

If it was up to me, there would be a law where human beings wouldn't be able to play videogames until they're mentally able to do so.

 

I started with GTA when I was four or five and I can't really tell it didn't dilate/affect my brain although that's just my opinion and viewpoint.

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 05:41 AM Edited by Son of Zeus, 29 January 2018 - 06:36 AM.

I vote 'yes' because i think fewer kids should be playing GTA.

I would like to see more comic violence, like you say, but the HD graphics make that less attractive. - Could it be used as an opportunity to explore darker themes in the story? TLAD has been the peak of darkness so far, but we're playing a crime game and it feels like a Disney movie. Sometimes it seems like there are no consequences to being a criminal; just a lot of fun and hijinks.

 
Thats because fans weren't happy with the direction GTA IV and TLAD took. Those are the only two stories of the series that actually show the consequences to being a criminal and they have rather dark endings.
 
With TBOGT and V we got cheesy disney endings where everything is fine at the end, just like SA before.


The problem with IV wasn't the dark tone, it was the weak sandbox aspect. A sandbox game without sand. Tlad was great though. Sadly it didn't sell well because IV was a big disappointment.


 

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Posted 29 January 2018 - 04:14 PM

I don't think it would make much difference. At first I clicked the topic all for it, but then I realised it would do little to stop underage players from getting hold of a copy. When it comes to the limits R* have due to their rating, I honestly don't think there are any. We've already seen some risque material, including full frontal nudity, very strong language and graphic violence. If they went any further, it would feel gratuitous and added just for the sake of it. GTA V was by far the most crass, vulgar, violent and downright rude instalment. I don't think you could go much further without it coming off silly.

 

I don't think slapping an AO on the box would deter those already fond of/curious about the series. Besides, this is just the USA you're talking about - over here in the UK, the games have been rated 18 since the 3D era and it seems with every release, there's fresh controversy that stems from children playing the game. I dare say that a lot of members here are living proof of that, with many of us playing the game for the first time under the age rating, and even more playing who aren't even 18 yet.


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Posted 29 January 2018 - 06:24 PM

 

 

I vote 'yes' because i think fewer kids should be playing GTA.

I would like to see more comic violence, like you say, but the HD graphics make that less attractive. - Could it be used as an opportunity to explore darker themes in the story? TLAD has been the peak of darkness so far, but we're playing a crime game and it feels like a Disney movie. Sometimes it seems like there are no consequences to being a criminal; just a lot of fun and hijinks.

 
Thats because fans weren't happy with the direction GTA IV and TLAD took. Those are the only two stories of the series that actually show the consequences to being a criminal and they have rather dark endings.
 
With TBOGT and V we got cheesy disney endings where everything is fine at the end, just like SA before.


The problem with IV wasn't the dark tone, it was the weak sandbox aspect. A sandbox game without sand. Tlad was great though. Sadly it didn't sell well because IV was a big disappointment.


 

 

Nah plenty complained about the dark tone in general. I don't think it was a disappointment at all (in fact its my favourite) but I agree that there could have been more variety & features. 

 

TLAD didn't sell well because many disliked the biker theme and it was even darker than GTA IV. Look at TBOGT, its over the top and "fun" and it was way more popular. For GTA most simply prefer more ridiculous fun type of games. 

 

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 05:00 AM Edited by Son of Zeus, 31 January 2018 - 05:03 AM.

 

 

I vote 'yes' because i think fewer kids should be playing GTA.

I would like to see more comic violence, like you say, but the HD graphics make that less attractive. - Could it be used as an opportunity to explore darker themes in the story? TLAD has been the peak of darkness so far, but we're playing a crime game and it feels like a Disney movie. Sometimes it seems like there are no consequences to being a criminal; just a lot of fun and hijinks.

 
Thats because fans weren't happy with the direction GTA IV and TLAD took. Those are the only two stories of the series that actually show the consequences to being a criminal and they have rather dark endings.
 
With TBOGT and V we got cheesy disney endings where everything is fine at the end, just like SA before.
The problem with IV wasn't the dark tone, it was the weak sandbox aspect. A sandbox game without sand. Tlad was great though. Sadly it didn't sell well because IV was a big disappointment.


 
 
Nah plenty complained about the dark tone in general. I don't think it was a disappointment at all (in fact its my favourite) but I agree that there could have been more variety & features. 
 
TLAD didn't sell well because many disliked the biker theme and it was even darker than GTA IV. Look at TBOGT, its over the top and "fun" and it was way more popular. For GTA most simply prefer more ridiculous fun type of games. 

 


Tlad is not hated. It has a small fanbase and people consider it better than IV. Sure some people disliked the biker theme but the main reason it didn't sell well was because a lot were put off by IV.

Tbogt is not considered a better game overall, people just like the weapons and some crazy missions of it. Nobody ever talks about Luis or his buddies. OK Yusuf has a fanbase. But still I think Johnny is more popular.

For GTA most people want a fun experience with good characters, varied missions and good content... Like 3,VC,SA. It's not supposed to be Mafia. 4 was more like Mafia.
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Posted 31 January 2018 - 06:16 PM Edited by Journey_95, 31 January 2018 - 06:20 PM.

 

 

 

 

I vote 'yes' because i think fewer kids should be playing GTA.

I would like to see more comic violence, like you say, but the HD graphics make that less attractive. - Could it be used as an opportunity to explore darker themes in the story? TLAD has been the peak of darkness so far, but we're playing a crime game and it feels like a Disney movie. Sometimes it seems like there are no consequences to being a criminal; just a lot of fun and hijinks.

 
Thats because fans weren't happy with the direction GTA IV and TLAD took. Those are the only two stories of the series that actually show the consequences to being a criminal and they have rather dark endings.
 
With TBOGT and V we got cheesy disney endings where everything is fine at the end, just like SA before.
The problem with IV wasn't the dark tone, it was the weak sandbox aspect. A sandbox game without sand. Tlad was great though. Sadly it didn't sell well because IV was a big disappointment.


 
 
Nah plenty complained about the dark tone in general. I don't think it was a disappointment at all (in fact its my favourite) but I agree that there could have been more variety & features. 
 
TLAD didn't sell well because many disliked the biker theme and it was even darker than GTA IV. Look at TBOGT, its over the top and "fun" and it was way more popular. For GTA most simply prefer more ridiculous fun type of games. 

 


Tlad is not hated. It has a small fanbase and people consider it better than IV. Sure some people disliked the biker theme but the main reason it didn't sell well was because a lot were put off by IV.

Tbogt is not considered a better game overall, people just like the weapons and some crazy missions of it. Nobody ever talks about Luis or his buddies. OK Yusuf has a fanbase. But still I think Johnny is more popular.

For GTA most people want a fun experience with good characters, varied missions and good content... Like 3,VC,SA. It's not supposed to be Mafia. 4 was more like Mafia.

 

Nope, from what I have seen on general forums & reddit TBOGT is way more popular than TLAD, its not even close. Most people don't care much for the story or good characters anyway so as long as there are cool weapons and over the top missions its all ok.

 

TLAD is not considered better than IV..I have never seen anyone say that, it has a small loyal fanbase but many didn't like the biker theme and depressing tone. TBOGT is way more popular because it was more lighthearted and "fun" (and I have seen some say that its better than IV). In general the episodes didn't sell well enough because of the price + exclusive deal and not enough marketing. GTA IV had nothing to do with it..

 

Johnny is not more popular than Luis and definitely not Niko, otherwise Johnny wouldn't have gotten the bitch treatment in V. Same for the Lost in general. They did it because they knew not many cared enough. 

 

I don't see how GTA IV has any less good content and variety than 3...if anything its the HD Era counterpart to that game in many ways. It had good characters & focused on the criminal underworld. It didn't let itself be dragged down by stupid sh*t like the jetpack bs/Toreno missions in general in SA or the FIB/IAA bs in V just to have more "variety".

 

Your bias is showing when you didn't count V with those games, most people clearly liked it.

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Posted 31 January 2018 - 09:20 PM Edited by BLADE_San_Andreas, 31 January 2018 - 09:24 PM.

Never going to happen probably, dude we all played it as kids, the community would still be full of kids like do you really think adding chainsaw and flamethrower etc. Will encourage kids to stop playing the game? Or sex and drug use, kids are kids we all played GTA as kids. 

For example take Witcher 3 18+ Sex scenes,Ability to mutilate people literary and much more. And do kids play it? Yes but tw is a different kind of game in which kids cry because they cant get the good ending.

 

And in reality GTA shouldnt even have a rating because its mixed i mean do elders play gta? Well yeah but there is a small amount of them.

The generation is changing, kids won't listen to Take On Me because we did as kids, they wont watch ALF, they wont do sh*t that we did and nothing will ever change it! only thing we have to do is accept no matter how much we try it wont change, kids wont have the same youth as some of us had... 

And no stop saying that GTA is encouraging kids to commit crimes, that the biggest bullsh*t i ever heard from someone's mouth,they will play it i mean we all did and did we commit crimes? Well i hope you didn't cause' i sure as hell didn't


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Posted 02 February 2018 - 04:32 PM

No it isn't that bad.





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