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Penguin Bob
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#1

Posted 4 weeks ago

I like Toni, i really do but some people say that he isn't that interesting. What do you guys think?


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#2

Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by ClaudeIzABadAzz, 4 weeks ago.

You're goddamn right he is! I don't know why so many people don't like him, I love Lionel!


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Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by Jeansowaty, 4 weeks ago.

I'm not a fan of him because he's been written a bit flat. He's 99% of the time angry without any reason and does everything what everyone tells him. He's like Claude from III, just with the ability to talk. Hope I won't offend anyone, I just didn't like LCS that much compared to the other GTA's.

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Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by Penguin Bob, 4 weeks ago.

I'm not a fan of him because he's been written a bit flat. He's 99% of the time angry without any reason and does everything what everyone tells him. He's like Claude from III, just with the ability to talk. Hope I won't offend anyone, I just didn't like LCS that much compared to the other GTA's.

Yeah but, Toni was doing stuff for Vinchizo(however you spell his name), and he was demanding it and Toni had enough of it and destroyed his car. So i might have to disagree with Toni doing EVERYTHING they told him to do. Soon he snaps and has enough of it. And in my opinion, i thought Toni getting angry was funny. 

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Posted 4 weeks ago

I admit, some scenes where he was incredibly angry were indeed funny :D Oh and I completely forgot about this mission. I personally think though that Toni exaggerated Vincenzo being so evil, him destroying his car just fuelled the guy with real hate so Vinnie decided to finish him off so he can regain his position in the mob. Their relation kind of reminded me Ryder and CJ in SA, just that Toni was taking everything too seriously, but in the end his suspicions became true. 

 

LCS lacked a proper main antagonist though, imo :p


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Posted 4 weeks ago

I admit, some scenes where he was incredibly angry were indeed funny :D Oh and I completely forgot about this mission. I personally think though that Toni exaggerated Vincenzo being so evil, him destroying his car just fuelled the guy with real hate so Vinnie decided to finish him off so he can regain his position in the mob. Their relation kind of reminded me Ryder and CJ in SA, just that Toni was taking everything too seriously, but in the end his suspicions became true. 

 

LCS lacked a proper main antagonist though, imo :p

I won't disagree with LCS having a weak antagonist. I agree with you saying Toni is Claude from GTA 3 but can talk. I agree. Toni is really Claude but he can talk, he has emotion, and sh*tl like that.

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Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by Rebel Yell, 4 weeks ago.

He is not definitely a bad one, but Toni seems so shallow in general, not possessing some sort of interesting complexity. Toni, almost always, fits the stereotype of macho tough mob guy with the baddest temper and strict loyalty, but that's it. The problem with Toni is that he lacks certain details that would make a character distinguishable and interesting. In short, Toni Ciprani is kind of a lesser "devil-in-the-details" Luca Brasi. Only dynamic put-in with Tony's persona was his psycho whore of a mother (who had some Olivia Soprano aura) but even that can't save Toni from being dull in the end. 


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Posted 4 weeks ago Edited by RaMMy, 4 weeks ago.

I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. 

I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them.

As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. 

I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them.

As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist.

I get what your saying, but to me the only protagonist who is a 'shell' is Claude. He has no emotion, he doesn't talk, AND HIS FACE DOESN'T CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

 

I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. 

I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them.

As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist.

I get what your saying, but to me the only protagonist who is a 'shell' is Claude. He has no emotion, he doesn't talk, AND HIS FACE DOESN'T CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME.

 

That's weird for a dude with a name ClaudeIzABadAzz.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

 

 

I always said it, and I will say it again, it all comes down to every person, personally I don't like other protagonists besides Niko, one of my friends likes only CJ so it's basically up to the player to decide witch protagonist he like's the most and connects better with. 

I don't mind the variety of protagonists so far, but from all of them, Claude, Toni and (for me) Victor Vance are only shells, empty characters for the player to interact with the game, nothing interesting about them.

As for you liking Toni, I appreciate it, it's nice to see people discussing different protagonists and pointing out things they like/care about that protagonist.

I get what your saying, but to me the only protagonist who is a 'shell' is Claude. He has no emotion, he doesn't talk, AND HIS FACE DOESN'T CHANGE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE GAME.

 

That's weird for a dude with a name ClaudeIzABadAzz.

 

Yeah, you'd' think so? He's an empty shell, but I still think he's a badass.


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#12

Posted 3 weeks ago

I've stated this in a similar topic before , but i think Toni is just a talking version of Claude


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Posted 3 weeks ago

Well, LCS was meant to be just a GTA for PSP, along side the main ones. It wasn't supposed to be a hit, so everything is kinda flat. But, still, hell of a great game!

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Posted A week ago Edited by Imperator233, A week ago.

In my opinion, Toni was the most memorable character after CJ and Tommy.

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Posted 4 days ago

Nope. Awful story and ZERO character development. I didn't hate the game, but it has one of the worst protagonists in my opinion.
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Posted 5 hours ago

Yes, i like so much her personality. Also, the story of LCS is one of the best in my opinion. 





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