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#1

Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:58 AM

1. Better map detail
2. Better storyline
3. Better character development

What yours?
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Posted 26 October 2017 - 12:11 PM

I'm surprised that you started this topic.

 

OT:

more challenging driving

more focused story(I mean it loses a bit of steam at the end with pegorino but makes up for it with the ending)

 

other than that they're both excellent games!

I can't wait to finally build my pc, and play them again!

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 01:20 PM

Everything.

 

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 02:59 PM

-The story events fit each other, unlike SA where you suddenly go from gangbaning and hood theme to infiltrating a military base then steal some mysterious "green goo".
-Having the ability to be in the character's shoes, feeling their emotions. Not a lot of games nailed that feeling in my opinion .
-Character writing: The background of the characters is so deep and detailed. For example
Spoiler
; it feels like Rockstar made a lot of effort and put love into even minor characters, a sociopath serial killer made right.
I didnt really find that in SA
-The rain
-More satisfying feeling when dodging cars in a chase due to the challenging driving.
-More intimidating antagonist and makes more sense for the reason going after him.
-"This is Weazel news": Lots more news reports that show your exploits throughout the story and other unrelated events which makes you feel the game world feel alive and realistic. (IK SA also has some DJs talking about story events but in very limited quanties. In IV it has lots more and news reports for what is happening outside the crime world of Liberty City)
-Yellow cars
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Posted 26 October 2017 - 10:43 PM

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-No pointless RPG elements.

 

-Niko's a far more believable protagonist than CJ.

 

-Side missions for the most part are actually crime centric. No stupid quarry, valet, paramedic missions etc.

 

-No slow as f*ck clothes changing animation. Though GTA IV's not perfect at least it doesn't take Niko 500 years to change a shirt.

 

-A cover system.

 

-Better weapons sounds.

 

-Better shooting mechanics.

 

-The taxi system sh*ts on the trip skip function.

 

-Dimitri > Tenpenny.

 

-Niko's not a whiny little pussy.

 

-Safehouses are more detailed and interesting to be in. Quality >,quantity.

 

-Missions are more grounded and sensible.

 

-The friends/girlfriends system is a huge improvement.

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 11:58 PM

ill take Liberty City & Alderney over San Andreas as a location, mainly because I thought the atmosphere in SA was a tad stale & Liberty City is far more detailed & felt more alive IMO.

 

Improved Vigilante missions. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 02:44 AM

ill take Liberty City & Alderney over San Andreas as a location, mainly because I thought the atmosphere in SA was a tad stale & Liberty City is far more detailed & felt more alive IMO.
 
Improved Vigilante missions.


Yes. Other than Las Venturas I didn’t care for the other cities. To be fair for the time the map was good, but after experiencing Liberty City/Alderney I never looked back.

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 01:00 PM Edited by Neon_Dreaming, 28 October 2017 - 01:02 PM.

More cohesive story and better character depth.

First Gta to have a cover system.

Easier method to imput cheats, instead of entering a code every time they are stored on the phone.

Improved follower ai. Dwayne's backup are more useful that grove street homies.
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Posted 29 October 2017 - 12:36 AM Edited by Algonquin Assassin, 3 days ago.

-Peds are far more varied.

 

-Cops make an attempt to arrest criminals rather than just shoot them dead (This nastiness of the A.I returned in GTA V sadly).

 

-Clothing whilst not the biggest selection fits Niko's style and isn't cluttered with gimmick sh*t like cowboy boots, funny glasses etc.

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 11:33 PM

No overrated memes
More interiors
Moral decisions
Longer missions
Friend hangouts outside of missions
City feels more alive than LS, SF, and LV combined
DLC
Better voice acting
Ragdoll physics
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 02:27 AM

Being consistent. SA was quite bloated and experience wise has its peaks and valleys. Rockstar just had a better understanding of how to pace a game by 2008.
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Posted 05 November 2017 - 12:58 PM

You cant really compare SA to GTA4  this needs to be on the GTA5 section as that is what GTA5 is a SA remake, it has no connection to GTA4 in my opinion.

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Posted 05 November 2017 - 06:58 PM

It kinda bothers me that normies think SA was just Los Santos.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

euphoria , cars crash mechanic, multiplayer. And of course 97.8
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Posted 13 November 2017 - 06:51 PM

Better classic rock station.

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 11:57 PM

The pedestrians  in GTA 4 are much better imo. In SA it felt like I was just seeing a clone every five meters with the occasional elvis. In GTA 4 they felt more alive and busy.

 

 

This is a pretty controversial topic But I agree with it. People worship San Andreas. While its a good game. Its not absolutely perfect. 

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:11 PM

Just better graphics. All the other details, missions, cars, cities San Andreas hammers gta iv. 

 

 same missions, a city like dark Gotham, ordinary charachters, foolish end... 

 

Even Truth is better than all the iv game. I didn't mention about Toreno... Morever, these are just 2 details of the spacious environment of the game. 

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:28 PM

Just better graphics. All the other details, missions, cars, cities San Andreas hammers gta iv. 
 
 same missions, a city like dark Gotham, ordinary charachters, foolish end... 
 
Even Truth is better than all the iv game. I didn't mention about Toreno... Morever, these are just 2 details of the spacious environment of the game.


Most of this post makes no sense, but thank you for bumping this thread.:)

-Clothing doesn’t look like it’s painted on an action figure.

-Character models are more detailed. Everyone in San Andreas looks like they’ve sucked on a lemon.

-Girlfriends aren’t boring, emotionless robots.

-Random characters make the game world way more interesting. I prefer this to the pointless “ped interaction”.
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Posted 14 December 2017 - 03:43 PM

-Literally everything.
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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:52 PM Edited by Lioshenka, 14 December 2017 - 11:53 PM.

Rain during evening time. This is literally the only thing that was good about GTA 4, although the red-lit rainy storm in SA was equally as good.

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 09:33 AM

Everything to be honest. Even if SA has higher quantity of side missions, features or bigger map, IV easily wins with bigger quality of everything.

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 09:41 AM

Everything to be honest. Even if SA has higher quantity of side missions, features or bigger map, IV easily wins with bigger quality of everything.

 

Pretty much this. I didn't notice it so much when I was younger because like everyone else I was sucked in by the "so many things to do". Now I'm older and wiser it really feels underdeveloped and uninteresting. GTA IV still holds up after almost a decade with higher quality features.

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:18 PM

Everything ...Enough said

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Posted 15 December 2017 - 12:26 PM Edited by Algonquin Assassin, 15 December 2017 - 12:30 PM.

Everything ...Enough said


Whilst this is indeed true its more fun to dissect the things GTA IV does better.;)
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Posted 3 weeks ago Edited by rampage08, 3 weeks ago.

Man, GTA IV was great because it focused on one theme and everything revolves around that. Every side mission makes sense for Niko and the theme of the game, maybe that's why i enjoyed IV a lot despite the "lack" of features.

In SA, CJ was supposed to be an average gangbanger right ? But the secret infiltration stuff ruins it, that doesn't immerse me to the game so much when we started to move to San Fierro. If anyone likes SA then no problem, but for me, it just so happen that R* made a gem with just simple features with IV.
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the only thing better about San Andreas than GTA4 for me are the voice actors. thats it. 

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Better dating system. The girlfriends in SA hardly felt like actual people.

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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Jack Lupino, 2 weeks ago.

Good graphics and realism that's it. SA is better in so many ways.
IV gets really insanely boring when the car physics are realistic (read: not as fun as earlier GTA games when a speeding truck/van running into a small car could not send it flying a short distance without the larger vehicle taking a fair amount of damage), your friends call you on a regular basis, and there are not many minigames. Cruising through the city is relaxing enough but relaxing =/= entertaining.
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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by Algonquin Assassin, 2 weeks ago.

Better dating system. The girlfriends in SA hardly felt like actual people.

 

Yeah. The girlfriends felt like robots lol. In GTA IV they have far more developed personalities and have something actually interesting to say.

 

Good graphics and realism that's it. SA is better in so many ways.
IV gets really insanely boring when the car physics are realistic (read: not as fun as earlier GTA games when a speeding truck/van running into a small car could not send it flying a short distance without the larger vehicle taking a fair amount of damage), your friends call you on a regular basis, and there are not many minigames. Cruising through the city is relaxing enough but relaxing =/= entertaining.

 

GTA IV's driving physics > every other GTA game. ;)

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Posted 2 weeks ago

You know what I noticed when I played through GTA SA on the PS4 earlier this year? Most of the clothes in the game are f*cking terrible.
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