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Is RDR 2 releasing date the end of GTA Online... Or maybe they will keep it updated until Bully 2?

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#121

Posted A week ago

Extending GTAO would be great IF it worked fine across all platforms, the PC version is a sh*tshow. I log on less and less because i am tired of trying to find lobbies without modders and playing in a solo lobby is dull.

 

I think a stand-alone multiplayer game would be even more profitable for them. They start with a single map and every iteration of GTA becomes an expansion you can buy to have access to new vehicles and features related to that version of GTA. They can still do their stupid drip-fed expansions and push shark cards to keep up player interest between game releases.


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#122

Posted A week ago

I'm surprised they haven't dropped PC support yet since it's a lost cause.

We can all have ideas about what GTA Online should become. Fact is, it was an unexpected success and got out of control (in a lot of areas), it remained popular, even increasing in popularity in some instances, which only made it go more and more out of control and, well, it's just not the GTA many of us had envisaged it would become.

However, back on topic, neither "RDR2" (the third red dead game) nor Bully 2 will affect the GTA Online updates, for starters they are different studios plus, who wants to kill the goose that's continued to lay the golden eggs for over 4 years?

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#123

Posted A week ago Edited by We Are Ninja, 4 days ago.

Why would anyone think that they'd let us transfer our characters from GTA V to GTA VI?? GTA V's assets will be completely, horribly outdated, and VI's systems will most likely be completely new or completely overhauled. From the economy to the game physics...

Imagine transferring Claude to San Andreas. Or even IV's Niko into GTA V. They're light years apart. They can get away with some of the vehicle models, but characters and progress? Not likely. From a technological standpoint, that's about as feasible as R* adding Liberty City to Los Santos via DLC... The game engines are far too different.
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#124

Posted A week ago

Why would anyone think that they'd let us transfer our characters from GTA V to GTA VI?? GTA V's assets will be completely, horribly outdated, and VI's systems will most likely be completely new or completely overhauled. From the economy to the game physics...

Imagine transferring Claude to San Andreas. Or even IV's Niko into GTA V. They're light years apart. They can get away with some of the vehicle models, but characters and progress? Not likely. From a technological standpoint, that's about as feasible as R* adding Liberty City to San Andreas via DLC... The game engines are far too different.

I think what they mean is an improved model of our characters, similar to how the Online Character model was improved when transferring from Last-Gen to Next Gen Versions.

We allready have a higher poly version of our character, that is not used in-game but only shown during cutscenes and when you are in the character creator.


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#125

Posted A week ago

More to the point... who wants to see APCs, ruiner 2ks and Oppressors flying around VI's online at all, let alone on day one when players may want to start from nothing or new players pick up the game for the first time.

Imagine if, on your first time playing GTA Online, you were being met by all of the OP toys and had no way to counter it. Way to reduce the player base.
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#126

Posted A week ago

They probably release a 500 dollar deluxe version that lets your transfer :p don't listen to that btw Rockstar...


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#127

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Why would anyone think that they'd let us transfer our characters from GTA V to GTA VI?? GTA V's assets will be completely, horribly outdated, and VI's systems will most likely be completely new or completely overhauled. From the economy to the game physics...

Imagine transferring Claude to San Andreas. Or even IV's Niko into GTA V. They're light years apart. They can get away with some of the vehicle models, but characters and progress? Not likely. From a technological standpoint, that's about as feasible as R* adding Liberty City to San Andreas via DLC... The game engines are far too different.


I think what they mean is an improved model of our characters, similar to how the Online Character model was improved when transferring from Last-Gen to Next Gen Versions.
We allready have a higher poly version of our character, that is not used in-game but only shown during cutscenes and when you are in the character creator.


That makes sense with the remastered version of GTA V/Online since it was the same game. But VI is going to be a giant leap. It won't be the same leap as it was from III to IV, but I think it'll be at least as big as IV to V. You can see the that V uses an advanced version of the IV engine or whatever, but they aren't "the same". One is ooooooold, and one is much newer, more refined, technologically advanced, etc...

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#128

Posted A week ago

Bully 2 isn't even officially announced (so leaks, as we all know, are false until proven real. Anyone can easily fake supposed 'Leaked' art of Bully 2 or GTA 6 or whatever)

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#129

Posted A week ago Edited by elfoam, A week ago.

Bully 2 isn't even officially announced (so leaks, as we all know, are false until proven real. Anyone can easily fake supposed 'Leaked' art of Bully 2 or GTA 6 or whatever)

All we know is that Rockstarfa**ot said we (he worked at Rockstar north) have another game coming out next year which they don't want any security flaws or glitches on. This was a separate discussion to Red dead and was also about next year (remember this is when Red dead was scheduled for this year). Take two have said they have another game coming from an established franchise (besides red dead). So it's Bully, Midnight club or GTA. imho manhunt doesn't count and if it's a Rockstar North game what else can it be other than GTA.. Bully has no association with Rockstar north, midnight club does but San Diego also and they are busy with red dead. North have done nothing much in 4 years other than DLCs for GTAO and patching glitches and that isn't much for a full team of developers (google says 360 people). Edit. the mystery game could be a ps4 version of Agent


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#130

Posted A week ago

 

Bully 2 isn't even officially announced (so leaks, as we all know, are false until proven real. Anyone can easily fake supposed 'Leaked' art of Bully 2 or GTA 6 or whatever)

All we know is that Rockstarfa**ot said we (he worked at Rockstar north) have another game coming out next year which they don't want any security flaws or glitches on. This was a separate discussion to Red dead and was also about next year (remember this is when Red dead was scheduled for this year). Take two have said they have another game coming from an established franchise (besides red dead). So it's Bully, Midnight club or GTA. imho manhunt doesn't count and if it's a Rockstar North game what else can it be other than GTA.. Bully has no association with Rockstar north, midnight club does but San Diego also and they are busy with red dead. North have done nothing much in 4 years other than DLCs for GTAO and patching glitches and that isn't much for a full team of developers (google says 360 people). Edit. the mystery game could be a ps4 version of Agent

 

Rockstar North also works on Red Dead Redemption II.

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#131

Posted A week ago

For me it is, lol just kidding but I am going to be spending lots of time of RDR2.  I think R is going to try to squeeze every penny out of GTAO as they can, I think they still have plenty of pennies to squeeze so probably it wont be the end of it. 


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#132

Posted 6 days ago

f*ck bully 2, give me a new goreified Manhunt title >:)

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#133

Posted 6 days ago

 

All we know is that Rockstarfa**ot said we (he worked at Rockstar north) have another game coming out next year which they don't want any security flaws or glitches on.

Your going to be waiting a long time for that game. They don't want "security flaws" or glitches in game. Have you never played a rockstar game before? All of there games have glitches, exploits, and cheats in them. And thats without getting into any of the speedrunning glitches. Vice City is beatable in 10 minutes to do a major glitch found by speedrunners.


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#134

Posted 6 days ago

I believe updates will continue, but not as "big updates"

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#135

Posted 6 days ago Edited by Giantsgiants, 6 days ago.

As much as I don't like it, I wouldn't be surprised if Rockstar continues to release updates into the 2020's. GTA kiddies these days are attracted to new things like ants to a sugar cube, no matter how outrageous they may seem to the old, grizzled GTA veterans.

 

I couldn't resist saying this: I think that there's a better chance of London getting an NFL team within the next five years than Rockstar ending updates to GTA Online within the next five years.

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#136

Posted 6 days ago

All I can see happening short term is that once RDR2 actually does release, I'd expect a quieter month on GTA:O during that time. Makes sense they'll give the new game promotions and every chance to sell, but from then on, well, it's all in the cash revenue/numbers really I guess... (That's even if they're comparable, RDR2 might not have microtransactions, I'm not sure on that one, I expect so, but not really looked as I want to be surprised as much as possible by not reading speculation/details of the game, only scanned the trailer on mute too).

 

Can't see that many all of a sudden say 'no more GTA for me'... Too many easy ways to cheat and be a c*nt, why would they leave to play something (potentially) fairer and harder, without flying cars/bikes and the like, lol... Plus, most of the kids will have to wait until NEXT Christmas for mummy or daddy to buy it for them... Yay!... Yeah, hopefully RDR2 stays niche, one for the gamers/grown ups... Hey, a man can dream, ha, ha, ha... 

 

Besides, the modern setting, with modern toys will always have a larger appeal, GTA will easily remain the 'big dog'...

 

Anyhow, I can't wait, hunting was awesome last time, and that new feeling in a larger, new open world of R*'s is always just so much fun... If the story delivers and I ain't left to play as my character's dick-head son, all good too... I hope there's fishing too, even crafting/making more things, could be cool...

 

Now, I need a good name for my steed, I got time to dwell...

 

One last thing quickly, if RDR does take off in an unexpected way, like GTA in a way and out performs, could they add a Back to the Future or a Westworld type mode/DLC/theme somewhere?... That could then allow things outside the western theme to be added... I mean, there's much in the unrealistic/crazy/stupid/fun/weird department in GTA:O that's not interfered with the narrative of the games story mode... 

 

With it's (expected) bigger map, and a better balance to allow players to choose their tickle, it could be a huge game once word gets out after online begins there...

 

Just thinking out-loud, I know this is all just fantasy talk... But imagine the possibilities with a portal, or 'futuristic' Adversary type modes or something... Not that I want it crazy like freemode in GTA, but there could be potential ways to add things from their catalogue of traits...

 

Don't get me wrong, as I said, it won't be an overnight thing where GTA dies and RDR thrives, but a slow natural migration over the next 2 years, R* using RDR2's online arena to appease the fans while they can ramp up production of a next GTA... Possible, A big 'if' I know...

 

In my opinion, all options are open to R*/T2, and somethings gotta eventually knock GTA V of it's perch, I'm sure R* would prefer it to be one of their that does. Don't want no creative ex-employee popping along and stealing us away, lol... And with the way it all went with GTA V/O and the transferring up of the game, quite honestly, anything's possible really, who'd of thought in the queue in 2013 we'd be here...

 

Way I see it, enjoy what you got when you can, but I use that ideal anywhere really... I mean, if these Planet X nuts do accidentally get it right, ain't none of it happening, lol...

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#137

Posted 6 days ago

Undead Nightmare (do u member?) and will they do it again?

I hope so...

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Posted 6 days ago

^ Cowboys vs. Aliens, lol...

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#139

Posted 5 days ago

I believe updates will continue, but not as "big updates"

This, I see them getting smaller each year.

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Posted 5 days ago

 

I believe updates will continue, but not as "big updates"

This, I see them getting smaller each year.

 

Depends on how much rdr2 makes, if it doesn't scale as high as gtaonline rdr2 will be getting "small" updates.


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#141

Posted 4 days ago

That could be a new GTA:O adversary mode.

 

LOL

^ Cowboys vs. Aliens, lol...

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Posted 4 days ago

I'm getting sick of all this "the end" stuff...

Rockstar said they will continue to release updates.

 

I'm with you on this one. Seriously what kind of retardation must one be suffering from to think a company would just decide to end the one product that is keeping the company in business.

 

 

Rockstar/T2 Board: "Hey we've got a great idea, lets cut all our cash flow from shark card sales and stop GTAO just because we are going to released a new untested product that might be a success.  

 

Shareholder: "Yeah sure great idea, I'm sure the share price will be fine even though we just killed our best selling game of all time that quadrupled our share price since it's release, great idea!"

 

:sui: yourself 

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