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ViceOfLiberty
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#1

Posted 2 weeks ago

TT issues cease and desist letter to a company using GTA V for autonomous vehicle research. TT sucks balls. Lol

https://www.forbes.c...b/#6ce7f6a37d7a


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Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by ChiroVette, 2 weeks ago.

There is another way of looking at this, though: Take2 is supposedly only pulling the plug on people using V's engine both for potential profit and those who are backward engineering the coding of the game, which I think you would agree is proprietary information because coding falls under IP laws. They don't seem to be bothering with a guy in Texas teaching cars how to self drive on Twitch, according to the article in your link, because they are leaving the game's code intact.

 

This could be bull, too Vice, so I am not just knee-jerk defending Take2 here. Also it seems to me that if a for-profit company wants to use Rockstar's game and intellectual property to aid them in creating a product for future sale, that Rockstar has the right to both be notified of such use and to be compensated accordingly.

 

This is not saying you are wrong, but I want to give you another possible way of looking at this, under the heading of two sides to ever story.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

To be fair, I'd be scared if they were using GTAV for road research, have you seen how the AI acts on the freeways!? :D
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Posted 2 weeks ago

There is another way of looking at this, though: Take2 is supposedly only pulling the plug on people using V's engine both for potential profit and those who are backward engineering the coding of the game, which I think you would agree is proprietary information because coding falls under IP laws. They don't seem to be bothering with a guy in Texas teaching cars how to self drive on Twitch, according to the article in your link, because they are leaving the game's code intact.

 

This could be bull, too Vice, so I am not just knee-jerk defending Take2 here. Also it seems to me that if a for-profit company wants to use Rockstar's game and intellectual property to aid them in creating a product for future sale, that Rockstar has the right to both be notified of such use and to be compensated accordingly.

 

This is not saying you are wrong, but I want to give you another possible way of looking at this, under the heading of two sides to ever story.

 

Trust me. I'm aware. Thing is that it's just being used for research. GTA's code I'm sure is going to have nothing to do with autonomous vehicles. They aren't using GTA's code as much as they're just using the engine as a sandbox to play with concepts. I think it's a reach on TakeTwo's part. It seems like their board has been really jumpy lately. Their strategy is obviously to go after everybody using their "sandbox" for anything but consumption and then retreat if a negative impact on them arises. As a video gaming developer/publisher there is a degree of understanding that people will experiment with your code for different purposes.... Trying to fight this unless it is a direct competitor using your code to develop a product that can cut into your revenue is a bit outlandish imo. 

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#5

Posted 2 weeks ago

T2 is a sh*tty company. What else is new?
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Posted 2 weeks ago

Aside from this issue, I don't want autonomous vehicles making the act of driving illegal, which of course will be an eventual outcome (except for police and the government elite).

 

If the argument is that they will almost eliminate traffic accidents, I'm not sympathetic, as simply not giving driver's licenses to the 10% of people who cause 90% of accidents would achieve near enough without eliminating my freedom of movement.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

I'm going to be out weaving around people either way. Lol. Check out MF GHOST. It's the new manga by the creator of Initial D. It takes place in the future where autonomous cars rule the road but there are still street racers. The main character drives an antique R35 GTR!

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#8

Posted A week ago

Gaming is serious business, didn't ya know? haha


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#9

Posted A week ago

- "Unfortunately, however, we are restricted from providing resources using GTA V for legal reasons."

- "I personally agree with the position taken by [Take-Two]," Bacchet continued. "If people were using their game for anything outside of pure leisure, they should have been informed."

- Rockstar is not happy about driverless cars learning from 'Grand Theft Auto V' without permission

 

Pretty much sums it up, and a strong case for Take Two to send notices. I don't find anything wrong here.

 

oh, why was the OP banned? He was a great admirer of GTA SA.





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