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#31

Posted 3 weeks ago

GTA Online is up for a good time again. But, like I read here, the SP is becoming more like a tutorial. Los Santos is pretty big, but also very empty. There are plenty of nightclubs, sports hall, restaurants, and no one of them are open (and I'm not forgetting the casino)... They could have done so much great things! I really wonder why they made the map so empty. Maybe will they release a GTAO Update NightBusiness, not avaliable for SP once again...

 

So yeah, to answer the question: as long as they can keep people on GTAO, it will stand. The SP becoming more like a "facade".

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#32

Posted 3 weeks ago

Gta will die, when it stops making money. Gta is a product and like every product, it has a life-cycle. GTA was a new product in 1997 so it was a question mark, then it was a rising star in 2001 and it has been that until V when it became the biggest game ever. With gta next we will see if it becomes even bigger star, or will it begin to be a cash cow. When the cash cow phase is over, it becomes a dog and they will pull the plug. But right now it's a star.

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#33

Posted 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately, GTA has already entered the cash cow phase. Single player excluded from latest updates as an attempt to push players to go fully online, not receiving any vehicles, weapons, outfits or new features in SP; ridiculously priced items on Online just to boost micro-transactions, etc.

However, GTA can stay in that star phase if they don't set us "old fans" apart, by caring about SP as much they do about Online. They'll be always people ready to drain their pockets to get that chrome APC with golden dollar rims, but keeping all lifelong GTA fans with a game that meets their expectations is what really matters IMO.
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#34

Posted 3 weeks ago

A rating below 6 will surely kill GTAs franchise

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#35

Posted 3 weeks ago

With the stunning new trailer for Red Dead 2 now out, Rockstar North better pull their socks up with the next GTA as far as the SP crowd are concerned, or it may just die !

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#36

Posted 3 weeks ago

Given that gaming and GTA are a major booming business, I don't see it ending anytime soon. This is one of those franchises that can go on for pretty much forever. 

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Posted 3 weeks ago

It must be R* destroying itself because of mismanagement.

 

Who knows, GTA V was a huge success but I cannot say I was satisfied by it and the focus on the online side after launch pissed me off.

 

I don't think the online could have been successfull without a solid single player that made its potential base huge.

The online market is a big risk.

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#38

Posted 2 weeks ago

Never.

With GTAV, the GTA brand has now become too big and famous to die. 80 millions copies sold guys, that's just crazy, if we assume we are 7 billions people on earth that's like saying every 90 people (approximately) in the world one of them owns GTAV. It's just really deep in our cultures, it's becoming more and more like supermario brand, I think it would become even bigger than mario in some years...


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#39

Posted 2 weeks ago

It's just really deep in our cultures, it's becoming more and more like supermario brand, I think it would become even bigger than mario in some years...

Meh. It already is. Everyone know about Grand Theft Auto - kids, teens and adults. And who knows about Mario? Adults? Old people? Yeah. 

And edgy teenagers, who play only retro games.

 


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#40

Posted 2 weeks ago

Never.

With GTAV, the GTA brand has now become too big and famous to die. 80 millions copies sold guys, that's just crazy, if we assume we are 7 billions people on earth that's like saying every 90 people (approximately) in the world one of them owns GTAV. It's just really deep in our cultures, it's becoming more and more like supermario brand, I think it would become even bigger than mario in some years...

 

Correct. Online has become a sleeper hit among many fans despite all the negative reviews. Rockstar still continues to make the most gorgeous open worlds with the highest attention to details, which is a big selling point. RAGE is equally popular for its technical  versatility, and of course, the in-game physics. Even the shortcomings - such as the SP experience, hasn't stopped people from buying the game.

I believe more and more people are fine with the shift from being just a single player franchise to a title with an exciting multiplayer experience and a single player for basic exploration, and offline mayhem.


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#41

Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by MisFit-138, 2 weeks ago.

You guys know this is the most successful GTA ever, right? I know it doesnt fit your narrative but GTA will be just fine, all basic math and common sense backs it up. People just keep keep making these threads to show how edgy and cynical they can be in a sad attempt to look intellectually superior, hense all the labeling and dismissal of anyone enjoying the game. All this pivoting of GTA's 1-4 as some sort of serious, deep, masterclass in story telling is rediculous. GTA has always firmly had its tongue in its cheek, if you cant see that you must have a serious disconnect from reality.

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Posted 2 weeks ago

You guys know this is the most successful GTA ever, right? I know it doesnt fit your narrative but GTA will be just fine, all basic math and common sense backs it up. People just keep keep making these threads to show how edgy and cynical they can be in a sad attempt to look intellectually superior, hense all they labeling and dismissal of anyone enjoying the game. All this pivoting of GTA's 1-4 as some sort of serious, deep, masterclass in story telling is rediculous. GTA has always firmly had its tongue in its cheek, if you cant see that you must have a serious disconnect from reality.

 

A few factors influence the fact that it is the best selling GTA...

 

 

Prominence of social media and ease of marketting with a high budget

Product reputation from ~15 years of prior titles

Rise in popularity of video games between the time of GTA V's release and prior releases

Hype built due to a long period of time between releases....has alot of people who were too young to buy the older games buying them. For instance someone who was 12 at the time of IV's release was 17 at the time of V's release. Someone who was 12 at the time of GTA III's release was only 15 at the time of San Andreas' release.

Games aren't necessarily judged and sold on their quality... GTA V is the beginning of the end as rockstar has completely lost their way between what GTA was meant to be and what it is becoming. Don't let sales statistics dictate how you feel about something. Garth Brooks sold a sh*t ton of records. You like Garth Brooks? 

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#43

Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by MisFit-138, 2 weeks ago.

You guys know this is the most successful GTA ever, right? I know it doesnt fit your narrative but GTA will be just fine, all basic math and common sense backs it up. People just keep keep making these threads to show how edgy and cynical they can be in a sad attempt to look intellectually superior, hense all they labeling and dismissal of anyone enjoying the game. All this pivoting of GTA's 1-4 as some sort of serious, deep, masterclass in story telling is rediculous. GTA has always firmly had its tongue in its cheek, if you cant see that you must have a serious disconnect from reality.

 
A few factors influence the fact that it is the best selling GTA...
 
 
Prominence of social media and ease of marketting with a high budget
Product reputation from ~15 years of prior titles
Rise in popularity of video games between the time of GTA V's release and prior releases
Hype built due to a long period of time between releases....has alot of people who were too young to buy the older games buying them. For instance someone who was 12 at the time of IV's release was 17 at the time of V's release. Someone who was 12 at the time of GTA III's release was only 15 at the time of San Andreas' release.

Games aren't necessarily judged and sold on their quality... GTA V is the beginning of the end as rockstar has completely lost their way between what GTA was meant to be and what it is becoming. Don't let sales statistics dictate how you feel about something. Garth Brooks sold a sh*t ton of records. You like Garth Brooks? 
I dont let sales and statistics dictate how I feel about about something, I just dont ignore them. My feelings have nothing to do with anything and thats kind of the point. You and others on this thread are ONLY using your feelings while ignoring all relevant data. My feelings on Garth Brooks dont matter, he is successful whether or not I listen. I could wake up everyday and go to a Garth Brooks website and come up with a new thread everyday proclaiming the downfall of his career, but I would just be going on feelings and ignoring all related data to hold my narrative and then pretend its fact. I've been playing this franchise since 1997, doesnt make my opinion right or wrong, but I'm still playing it because its still fun. Thats all most people ask for out of their video games. As far as nothing lasting forever, Batman and Superman are going in 80 years without being consistantly great. Their longevity is due to constant new takes and risks with the franchise. Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Resident Evil, Metal Gear, and many others have had some pretty astonishing career lows (less with MGS) without even coming close to GTA 5's level of success and they are all still alive as moneymaking franchises. This thread is dumb, just saying.

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#44

Posted 2 weeks ago Edited by ViceOfLiberty, 2 weeks ago.

 

 

You guys know this is the most successful GTA ever, right? I know it doesnt fit your narrative but GTA will be just fine, all basic math and common sense backs it up. People just keep keep making these threads to show how edgy and cynical they can be in a sad attempt to look intellectually superior, hense all they labeling and dismissal of anyone enjoying the game. All this pivoting of GTA's 1-4 as some sort of serious, deep, masterclass in story telling is rediculous. GTA has always firmly had its tongue in its cheek, if you cant see that you must have a serious disconnect from reality.

 
A few factors influence the fact that it is the best selling GTA...
 
 
Prominence of social media and ease of marketting with a high budget
Product reputation from ~15 years of prior titles
Rise in popularity of video games between the time of GTA V's release and prior releases
Hype built due to a long period of time between releases....has alot of people who were too young to buy the older games buying them. For instance someone who was 12 at the time of IV's release was 17 at the time of V's release. Someone who was 12 at the time of GTA III's release was only 15 at the time of San Andreas' release.

Games aren't necessarily judged and sold on their quality... GTA V is the beginning of the end as rockstar has completely lost their way between what GTA was meant to be and what it is becoming. Don't let sales statistics dictate how you feel about something. Garth Brooks sold a sh*t ton of records. You like Garth Brooks? 
I dont let sales and statistics dictate how I feel about about something, I just dont ignore them. My feelings have nothing to do with anything and thats kind of the point. You and others on this thread are ONLY using your feelings while ignoring all relevant data. My feelings on Garth Brooks dont matter, he is successful whether or not I listen. I could wake up everyday and go to a Garth Brooks website and come up with a new thread everyday proclaiming the downfall of his career, but I would just be going on feelings and ignoring all related data to hold my narrative and then pretend its fact. I've been playing this franchise since 1997, doesnt make my opinion right or wrong, but I'm still playing it because its still fun. Thats all most people ask for out of their video games. As far as nothing lasting forever, Batman and Superman are going in 80 years without being consistantly great. Their longevity is due to constant new takes and risks with the franchise. Mario, Zelda, Sonic, Resident Evil, Metal Gear, and many others have had some pretty astonishing career lows (less with MGS) without even coming close to GTA 5's level of success and they are all still alive as moneymaking franchises. This thread is dumb, just saying.

 

 

I consider video games to be art. Art should be judged based on how it makes you feel, and the thoughts and imagery that it provokes. GTA is still fun, but it is becoming fun in a more generic way. It's becoming fun in the same way that other games are fun, and less in the way that GTA used to be fun in a way that nothing else was. It is becoming fun due to the over the top vehicles and weapons, the over the top (even for GTA) mayhem, the cheap jokes at every blink of the eye, the blown out of proportion stereotypes that were once ever so subtle and blended in to the world. It's become overrun with self advertisement and coersive spamming. The ways that GTA has become fun can be acheived by playing other games. You can get the explosive PVP action from Battlefield, or the Arcadey driving physics from Need For Speed. You can get the crazy blown out of proportion mayhem from Saints Row and Just Cause. There is something that I still get from the older GTA games that I can't get from V, and it's a true feeling of immersion. This is the sole quality that really made GTA what it is. It was about being part of something greater than yourself...the city breathing. The city engulfing you and throwing you violently around in the criminal underworld... You needed your wits to even make it through the game, or survive roaming the streets. It's just not like that anymore. The story is like watching a B movie, and Online is like playing Second Life... The immersive criminal freedom is gone, almost completely. There are no more uzi shootouts or engaging car chases...no more gang affiliations and underworld politics... it's all just expensive toys and cheap explosions.... It's done man...

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#45

Posted 2 weeks ago

I think GTAO killed GTA franchise

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Posted 2 weeks ago

probably some time after cod super mega space warfare with knobs on top 35

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Posted 2 weeks ago

sadly the success of online may kill the storymode gtas


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#48

Posted A week ago

I have faith in Rockstar North. I think they'll churn out some new classics for at least the next 15 years. But the games will change once the old-timers depart, and the loss of The Benz isn't great news. In fact it's scary. But Rockstar won't fail - it will just change - and change is risky but it's not a guaranteed demise.

 

I personally believe Rockstar's success is due to the A+ script material, and Dan Houser has had his hand in pretty much every successful story since 99'. He's currently 43, and it takes about 6 years to make a GTA game, so we'll at least have 2-3 more games that were written by him. The material and characters really are what makes a game. I think that's why Saint Row and Mafia games just haven't really caught on.

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#49

Posted A week ago

I think the franchise in general will continue for a long time. I do, however, fear that we will see a dramatic shift away from the traditional GTA feel due to the emphasis on microtransactions.

This has happened with many games that all know and love. We accept it now, but I feel that it will become worse as time progresses.

The video game industry was historically immune to the sh*tty, cancerous workings of other industries, such as film and music. The skyrocketing popularity of gaming in general has seen the scene change from one focusses on "gamers" as distinct group of people who represent the target market, to including everyone. As a result, profits have shot through the roof and changed the way that games are developed. There is just so much money to be made that the positive aspects of this form of media have been pushed down in order to direct resources to more profitable areas.

My concern, therefore, is that the negative changes will persevere and that the best parts of gaming will eventually disappear.
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#50

Posted A week ago

With the stunning new trailer for Red Dead 2 now out, Rockstar North better pull their socks up with the next GTA as far as the SP crowd are concerned, or it may just die !

 

This, as much as I hate to admit it. 

 

Yes, R* are making a sh*t tonne of money with GTA Online and shark cards, but one day the cash fall will stop and people will need something more fulfilling, something meaningful, not just an online fantasy world. A real game with balls.

 

As the old saying goes "if something is too good to be true, then it probably is".


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#51

Posted A week ago

I think GTAO killed GTA franchise

I think they'll give it one last shot with 6 just to see if there's still any interest in a story mode. 


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Posted A week ago

All jokes aside, I think we will get at least two more GTA games. Regardless if you like GTA Online or not, it's making Rockstar too much money to abandon. GTA V alone broke many records because of how many copies they sold.

And I think a GTA VI would sell well too, the name alone has a lot of hype to it


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#54

Posted 5 days ago

It will die when the Houser brothers die


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It will die when the Houser brothers die

I doubt that since R* made Take Two their parant company and the GTA Series is too popular to die.


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#56

Posted 3 days ago

Never, unless the main people decide to hang em up, but they're gonna milk their cash cow for many years to come

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Posted 3 days ago Edited by Niobium, 3 days ago.

GTA isn't dying... most people don't care how many microtransactions or other money-grubbing features are in the game. they'll buy it because it's GTA.

we have entered an era where microtransactions have become the norm, and it's all the consumer's fault for accepting it.

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Posted 2 days ago

As others have indicated, GTA is already pretty much gone for those of us who aren't super-snipers (only way to survive in Online) or regularly buy Shark cards.

 

I expect GTA VI to have even LESS (if that were even possible) focus on single-player story mode than V did. It will be built from the ground up to accomodate Online 2 rather than be a solid evolving game on its own.


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#59

Posted 2 days ago

i hope it dies before it gets sh*tty


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Posted A day ago Edited by mariana_dm1989, A day ago.

Stupid underage kids will always buy GTA no matter what Rockstar does, so it will never really die in terms of sales. But for the true mature fans, the series will probably die in terms of reputation and prestige if GTA6 happens to contain another bland, underwhelming and unsatisfying single player/offline experience like that of GTA5. It's only a matter of time until mature fans will start looking elsewhere. It's all up to Rockstar. If they were smart, they would give the middle finger to the stupid kids who have now become rockstar's target audience, and thereby condemned this legendary and iconic franchise to utter short lived garbage. 





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