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tonymontana5
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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:42 PM

I'll start.

-Soundtrack (I had at least one favourite song on every station, favourites were Africa by Toto, I Ran by A Flock of Seagulls and Automatic by the Pointer Sisters.)

-Main character (I liked CJ but Tommy was an absolute badass who is actually my second favourite protagonist behind Niko Bellic.)

-Ending (End of the Line was good but Keep Your Friends Close was an intense and genius mission. "I just wanted to piss you off before I kill you".)

-Setting (Loved the setting, and how well it was done. Some buildings just look a bit ugly though.)

-Atmosphere (Rockstar absolutely nailed this. San Andreas did well with the 90s atmosphere but i'm afraid that Vice City takes the cake with the 80s atmosphere. The music, the cars, the neon. Bloody loved it.)

-Characters and Story (San Andreas had good and memorable characters, like Mike Toreno and Woozie, but Vice City has Tommy Vercetti, Ricardo Diaz, Sonny Forelli, Lance Vance, Ken Rosenberg. I could go on and on. The story too, the satisfaction of killing Sonny and the Scarface-inspired story just won me over.)

 

So what about you guys? What things did you think were done better in Vice City than San Andreas?

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 08:47 PM

I agree with all of those minus the ending as I felt EOTL was better as it was an original ending and not a blatant scarface rip. Not saying KYFC is a bad mission as it's great but I think SA's was better but aside from that VC in every category.


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Posted 10 September 2017 - 09:59 PM

Soundtrack and cars handling to make it short.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 08:32 PM

  • Ability to rob stores
  • floating newspapers on the streets
  • more car parts could be damaged and fall off
  • better weather/climate rendering
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:21 PM

- Ability to deposit weapons at the airport and pick them up again.
- Highway signs are actually readable at a distance at a "natural" resolution.
- Shiny cars.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 10:58 PM Edited by Richie Makyura, 11 September 2017 - 11:00 PM.

This theme should be called things GTA 3, VC, LCS & VCS Did better than San Andreas: Anyway heres my opinion.

 

Ambient sounds like GTA 3 Restaurants, Buildings and the Cinemas of Portland.

 

More harder cops. I Think the GTA SA IA of the cops and gangs or enemy,s its so ridicolous easy.

 

More Vehicle sub missions like the Firetruck Rampage in LCS or the Pizzaboy from VC.

 

3 & VC Color pallete textures, the darkers colors is great in my opinion.

 

GTA 3 Gore effect (Mutilate people parts with weapons).

 

GTA 3 & VC Death Animations.

 

The sound effects, I prefer the other 4.

 

CJ is not a Badass, CJ everytime stand in the Sweets shadow and for everything cry incluiding for saving is own brother.

 

Too ridiculous Missions and Off Topic Missions on San Andreas (aka relleno)

 

Short memorable characters in San Andreas

 

Make Skins option like in GTA 3 and Vice City.

 

Too Much Planes only for the player can be used and only you use 5.

 

*If i Remember other thing I Edit this Reply


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 07:58 PM

Fair point, but the thing is Vice City and San Andreas are both the most loved 3D universe games so I thought we could try see what everyone likes about Vice City which has less features but is almost equally liked as much as San Andreas.
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Posted 15 September 2017 - 01:43 PM

-Tommy's not a little pussy.

-Better interiors.

-Better melee weapons.

-Better properties and businesses to buy.

-Sonny Forelli isn't overrated to high heaven like Tenpenny is.

-Rampages are more fun than turf attacks.

-Assassinations.

-Less gimmicky bullsh*t like eating to get fat.

-A much more cohesive and focussed story.

-Clothing choices that don't look like they're apart of a child's dress up party,
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Posted 15 September 2017 - 02:00 PM

- Vice City > LS+SF+LV. 

 

- Better setting. I'd take 80s Miami over 90s Los Angeles any day.

 

- Better graphics, at least IMO. The atmosphere in the game is spot-on, while San Andreas' atmosphere could've been better.

 

- Pre-made outfits. Tommy looks badass on all of the outfits, the main reason for this being that the outfits were designed by the devs, and the player wasn't presented with a dress-me-up minigame to create the worst clothing combinations imaginable. 

 

- Better talk radio stations.

 

- Weapon sounds.

 

- No Catalina.

 

- No Carl Johnson. He was the most vapid and uninteresting GTA protagonist till the release of V. Tommy becomes the kingpin at the end of the game, while CJ still remains as an insignificant little pawn.

 

- No RPG stats like muscle, stamina, sex appeal etc. 

 

- Vice City's missions make sense, unlike SA's.

 

- The PC version of the game isn't glitchy.

 

- No pointless things like hovercrafts, bicycles, go-karts, cargo planes, Harrier jets etc.

 

- Overall better NPC (especially police) AI.

 

- Challenging missions.

 

- And obviously, better story.

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:34 AM

- Story is quite more engaging, but that's mainly due to it being set only in one city.

- Missions are a bit more open ended than SA's, including the variety in them.

 

These two are the only things that give Vice city slight edge over SA. 

SA is obviously better, bigger and much more immersive, and fun. That doesn't make Vice City pale in comparison. Both games are amazing to play, and the best GTA's in the franchise.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 03:17 PM

The weather is globally better rendered (although the purple sky at night in the desert is very nice). The ability to rob stores is entertaining.

The hotring and car races are way much funnier.


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Posted 25 September 2017 - 10:00 AM

More ambient sound appear on the city skirt, like Church bell, disco sound, wind blowing up and more
More ambient sound appear on the city skirt, like Church bell, disco sound, wind blowing up and more

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 01:50 AM

Swimming.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 02:08 AM

My opinion's

1. City 

2. 1986

3. Interior's

4. Soundtrack

5. Protagonist 

6. Asset Properties

7. Character's

8. No overused meme's (San Andreas Reference)

9. Storyline            

10. Weapon Sound Effects


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 07:25 PM

-Tommy's not a little pussy.

-Better interiors.

-Better melee weapons.

-Better properties and businesses to buy.

-Sonny Forelli isn't overrated to high heaven like Tenpenny is.

-Rampages are more fun than turf attacks.

-Assassinations.

-Less gimmicky bullsh*t like eating to get fat.

-A much more cohesive and focussed story.

-Clothing choices that don't look like they're apart of a child's dress up party,

san andreas has rampages also


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:54 PM

 

-Tommy's not a little pussy.

-Better interiors.

-Better melee weapons.

-Better properties and businesses to buy.

-Sonny Forelli isn't overrated to high heaven like Tenpenny is.

-Rampages are more fun than turf attacks.

-Assassinations.

-Less gimmicky bullsh*t like eating to get fat.

-A much more cohesive and focussed story.

-Clothing choices that don't look like they're apart of a child's dress up party,

san andreas has rampages also

 

 

Only in two player though.


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Posted 27 September 2017 - 11:26 PM

- Story makes sense
- Tommy is not a whiny bitch
- Rampages
- 1986
- Robbing stores
- Tommy are more badass than CJ
- Better property

There's still more though...
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Posted 29 September 2017 - 05:10 AM Edited by watersgta3, 29 September 2017 - 05:41 AM.

We're all entitled to our opinions. The way I see it, both VC and SA are better than each other in their own style.

 

Atmosphere - Vice City. While I did like the urban ghetto vibe San Andreas gave us, Vice City just had more of that vibe that actually sucks you into the 80s, whereas San Andreas gives you that 90s vibe for only lasts in Los Santos and becomes lost after you leave the state.

 

Protagonist - Vice City. I got nothing against CJ. He was a good character, but he kinda slips into Wangst territory every now and then (I mean he bitches about a rocket launcher in the middle of the f*cking riot for crying the f*ck out loud!). It's kinda hard to root for someone who whines about how rough he has it even though he has no qualms of killing citizens and robbing houses. Whereas Tommy was a badass that took sh*t from no one (apart from Maude that is) and stayed true to his personality without any hypocritical tendencies. And while Tommy did complain in some scenes, it was more out of growing a spine to let people know that he doesn't let anyone walk on top of him.

 

Antagonist - GTA San Andreas. I'm sorry, but Sonny was a weak antagonist to me. All he's ever done was justsit around and wait for Tommy to get back the money he had stolen. He really hasn't done anything impressive. Whereas Tenpenny tried to frame CJ for homicide, manipulated everyone around him, and even tried to turn others away from each others. Plus we can't forget about Samuel L. Jackson!

 

Features - GTA San Andreas. Needs no explanation here.

 

Characters - Tie. Both games had memorable and likable characters. VC had Lance, Diaz, Rosenberg, Kent Paul, Cortez, Phil, and Carrington. SA had Sweet, Big Smoke, Ryder, Cesar, Toreno, and Woozie.

 

Soundtrack - Vice City. I just felt that the soundtrack pretty much covered everything about the 80s. While I did enjoy the soundtrack of San Andreas as well, what with the gangsta rap, new jack swing, grunge, and house music and all, I felt that there wasn't enough 90s songs. I mean I think the Playback station should've have songs from ATCQ, Black Sheep, the DITC crew, Redman, Naughty by Nature, etc. I mean there's nothing wrong with throwing in a few late 80s songs in the soundtrack since the early 90s were kind of a holdover of the late 80s, but I felt that they should've gone heavier on the 90s songs more to make the vibe of the game more cohesive.

 

Storyline - Vice City. The story was much more cohesive and not all over the place like San Andreas.

 

Gameplay - San Andreas. With so much things to do and so many games to play, you rarely get bored of it.

 

Ending - San Andreas. Not saying Vice City's ending was bad, but I just felt that the ending to San Andreas was much more challenging and epic.

 

Originality - GTA San Andreas. While Vice City's Scarface-inspired theme was nice, I felt that San Andreas was slightly more original.

 

Missions - Vice City. Yeah most of the missions in San Andreas were filler to prolong the plot. I mean there were just so many pointless missions (such as Body Harvest, Monster, all of Zero's missions, etc.)

 

Overall - It's a tie for me. I think each game is better than the other in their own style.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:37 PM

Vice city has a more interesting map I don't care what anyone says, all the vibrant lights and colors make it feel unique it stands out from the other GTA cities which I feel are just dark or dull.

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 11:04 AM

-You can't rob stores in GTA San Andreas

-Most GTA San Andreas are just filler mission like: Supply Lines, New Model Army, et cetera 

While most Vice City missions are unique and really challenging

-I Love the 80's Atmosphere in GTA Vice City. The sephia tone of skies and beautifully made ocean.

-Soundtrack in GTA Vice City is.. PERFECT. I can say it is the most enjoyable videogame soundtrack in History!

But!
-You can't swim. WHY THE HELL THEY MAKE A BEAUTIFUL OCEAN WHEN YOU CAN'T f*ckING SWIM ON IT?!

-Vice City map is... very small even when compared to predecessor GTA III.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

At the end of the day I consider Vice City to be the Goldy Locks of the 3D era. I don't mean that in a negative way, but it's "just right".

 

Where GTA III's a bit too stark with its only redeeming quality being atmosphere, San Andreas goes to the extreme of unnecessarily bloating itself taking away focus from its core. It tries to do too much, but none of it well leaving a confused mess behind.

 

Vice City simply hits the middle ground. Maybe some of its mechanics haven't aged the best, but in terms on content and relevance to its theme it's a masterpiece of the early PS2 era.

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- Driving.

- Feeling of the city, including lightning, sunsets, camera effects when it's raining or there's fog in the street, and the lens flare effect of the sun.

- Deep story.

- Music (this is the only GTA where I wait for a song to finish before getting out of the car).

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Posted 4 weeks ago

- Driving.

- Feeling of the city, including lightning, sunsets, camera effects when it's raining or there's fog in the street, and the lens flare effect of the sun.

- Deep story.

- Music (this is the only GTA where I wait for a song to finish before getting out of the car).

Ha! I also wait for songs to finish before leaving the car. I have failed many missions due to this.


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Ha! I also wait for songs to finish before leaving the car. I have failed many missions due to this.

 

When you are reaching your destiny and Self Control starts... damn haha.


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Posted 4 weeks ago

this thread is blasphemous!!! :O :O :O


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Posted 3 weeks ago

- Vice City > LS+SF+LV. 

 

- Better setting. I'd take 80s Miami over 90s Los Angeles any day.

 

- Better graphics, at least IMO. The atmosphere in the game is spot-on, while San Andreas' atmosphere could've been better.

 

- Pre-made outfits. Tommy looks badass on all of the outfits, the main reason for this being that the outfits were designed by the devs, and the player wasn't presented with a dress-me-up minigame to create the worst clothing combinations imaginable. 

 

- Better talk radio stations.

 

- Weapon sounds.

 

- No Catalina.

 

- No Carl Johnson. He was the most vapid and uninteresting GTA protagonist till the release of V. Tommy becomes the kingpin at the end of the game, while CJ still remains as an insignificant little pawn.

 

- No RPG stats like muscle, stamina, sex appeal etc. 

 

- Vice City's missions make sense, unlike SA's.

 

- The PC version of the game isn't glitchy.

 

- No pointless things like hovercrafts, bicycles, go-karts, cargo planes, Harrier jets etc.

 

- Overall better NPC (especially police) AI.

 

- Challenging missions.

 

- And obviously, better story.

pc versiion has  glitches on non modedd version 

not lots but its still the best game ever


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Posted 3 weeks ago

 

Ha! I also wait for songs to finish before leaving the car. I have failed many missions due to this.

 

When you are reaching your destiny and Self Control starts... damn haha.

 

Or when Billie Jean by Michael Jackson starts... Jesus Christ I love Vice City.


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Posted 3 weeks ago

Tommy never buries someone alive just because they call his relatives a bitch (when she did dress like a bitch)

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-Tommy doesn't act like a bitch unlike CJ.

 

-Annoying calls from Cesar about some dumb supply.

 

-No unnecessary missions like Zero Missions, Toreno Missions, etc.

 

-No girlfriends calling you every 5 seconds.

 

-No stupid combining clothing.

 

-I mean come on, this is GTA, not some life simulator.

 

- The story was ALL over the place.

 

- CJ never accomplished anything. Tommy killed his boss who betrayed him, and Lance. CJ is still a whiny bitch in the end.

 

- And don't even get me started on the targeting system.


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Posted A week ago

-You've got much less plane missions to do than in San Andreas and I've never been at ease with planes

-The paramedics can't resurrect your charred victims

-You don't need to wait close to the dollar-symbol so your company generates money at a decent speed.

-The helicopters' handling is better.

-You can continue you firefighter sub-mission past the level 12.

-You've got lesser distances to run during the vigilante sub-mission and the tank is much funnier to drive

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