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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:38 PM

Gunrunning was a huge update. Decent money to set yourself up; bunker, upgrades, MOC, fast tracking research. A menacing flying bike, sinister military-grade vehicles of pure death and destruction. And a new passive business that generates a secondary income while I do as I please. Overall, great addition to the money, and mass murdering side of GTAO.

Elsewhere, I find myself reading something about the revenue still being earned in GTAO and its continued success. Apparently, Gunrunning has proved to be the best quarter in its entire history.

Enter Smugglers Cum DLC. Expensive new content accompanied by a new business that's a step backwards from the kind of money we're used to making.

I'm now waiting for a Lemonade Stand DLC; buy a stand, customise it, upgrades, research for better lemons etc. But the stand will cost $10M and fast tracking lemon research will set us back $665,000. And we'll still make more money with Smugglers Cum. Not to mention the next update after that, the Community Volunteer DLC. No cash. No RP. Just missions for our community.

But all future DLC details aside, it seems like unprecedented quarterly success has convinced R* to piss on our faces and call it rain. But there is a rainbow during this temporary golden, afternoon shower. It only takes one bitter, money grabbing DLC to stop and say, "Wait a minute. RAIN ISN'T SALTY AND WARM". R* replies, "But your lemonade will be. DLC drops October 10th".

My view of R* has definitely changed since Smugglers Cum. Has yours?
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 01:49 PM

You lost me with that edgy renaming of Smugglers Run.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:55 PM

I was lost before I finished the title.

No it hasn't.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 03:06 PM

If R* released your lemonade stand DLC but the payouts were higher than any other existing business I bet you'd claim it's the best update ever... even if you litteraly had to just stand around selling million dollar cups of juice all day.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 03:52 PM

No but I do hate them for putting out such garbage gameplay.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:12 PM

Due to the Hunter and flares alone, yes; it got better.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:22 PM

I mean, if you didn't know it was all a cash-grab before SR, you probably won't notice afterwards either.

 

If everything from Smugglers Run disappeared from the game overnight, I'd probably take me at least a week to notice, and even then I wouldn't be able to muster up a single flying f* about it. 

 

I won't lie though, I'd honestly be more excited about Lemonade Stand DLC... that sounds kinda fun, setting up your own stand in hostile territory, having to defend it while NPCs flock around to get some of your sweet sweet nectar, destroying other lemonade stands with sticky bombs to increase the profits of your own. Oh my god, this would make my day.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:54 PM

You lost me with that edgy renaming of Smugglers Run.


Me too, but then I imagined Courtney starting up an airborne cum smuggling operation with RON of all friggin people and actually had a good chuckle...
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:17 PM Edited by Nasty Noodles, 07 September 2017 - 06:20 PM.

Setting the new aircraft as a PA was a wrong move in my opinion, not as efficient as calling out a pegasus vehicle. At least then you don't have to steal a civilian car to drive to your aircraft and then during the next mission spawning with absolutely nothing. 

 

 

"smugglers cum"

 

Just, no. 

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:32 PM

Ney.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:34 PM Edited by GenericGTAO, 07 September 2017 - 06:41 PM.

Setting the new aircraft as a PA was a wrong move in my opinion, not as efficient as calling out a pegasus vehicle. At least then you don't have to steal a civilian car to drive to your aircraft and then during the next mission spawning with absolutely nothing. 
 
 
"smugglers cum"
 
Just, no. 

Spawn your ceo vehicle...sometimes I use a buzzard other times a sanchez...sometimes the timer gets in the way, but rarely...if an mc you can always spawn a bike nearby. There is a 5min cool down on pv air. Still way better than pegasus lifestyle management. Havent climbed the hospital ladder since the update.

On topic, no, smuggerlers run is a good update. Anyone who thought it would be cheap is illiterate. Sure there are some dumb things about this update, but still the best... lazer pv, bro...nuff said. I would have gladly shelled out 9,960,000 for it.

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Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:45 PM

We went into business with Ron,....RON I said! No way to make decent $ with that guy, no wonder Trevor dumped'em.

With that said, I can see future sales gettings quadrupled for certain items. But no holding my breath.

That said I enjoy a hanger crate run every now & again.

They real juice is stealing others crates, good fun....how Breaking and Entering is next.


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Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:56 PM Edited by VulcanFanatic, 07 September 2017 - 10:03 PM.

My opinion of Rockstar tanked with Gunrunning. It wasn't about the cost,it was tightening up on public solo lobbies. I could grind enough to pay for any update as long as I can be left alone in a lobby to do it but Rockstar doesn't want us to make any money.I really like Import export but even then there were mean spirited things Rockstar put in to try and keep you from succeeding. I found ways around those things because I love the challenge figuring out how to defeat everything they throw at us to defeat us but I'm not going to waste my time trying to make money in a lobby full of 12 year dipsh*ts or bullies. I only have a certain amount of time to devote to grinding and I am not going to waste my time and resources on a bunch of kids that shouldn't be playing this game to start with.
Gunrunnings sell missions are also engineered for failure as well, much morso than any other business dlc up to that point.Gunrunning and smugglers run are not fun at all to me mission wise. I like the content , the bunker, the MOC, the hanger, the new vehicles, gun upgrades, pegusus aircraft storage and all too but the business part of the last two dlcs are awful.
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Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:16 PM

No, it hasn't.

You lost me with that edgy renaming of Smugglers Run.


Yep, same.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:40 AM Edited by buff magik, 08 September 2017 - 01:07 AM.

My opinion of Rockstar tanked with Gunrunning. It wasn't about the cost,it was tightening up on public solo lobbies. I could grind enough to pay for any update as long as I can be left alone in a lobby to do it but Rockstar doesn't want us to make any money.I really like Import export but even then there were mean spirited things Rockstar put in to try and keep you from succeeding... but I'm not going to waste my time trying to make money in a lobby full of 12 year dipsh*ts or bullies.


True, I forgot about R* closing the door on an easy solo lobby. I find a small lobby, and bully people until they leave. When it says people are voting to kick me, I start up a Hostile Takeover. For the next 30 minutes, I don't go anywhere no matter how many people vote. And I keep bullying until the lobby is mine because I'm not grinding in a public lobby either. Having an option to start a solo lobby makes for a better experience and use of time for all concerned. Another technique around R* decision to cull solo lobbies, is to use an app on Android called 'Lag Switch'. But it can lose your connection entirely and see you back in single player. And everyones experience with the app will be different. Near full lobbies are easier to drop out of rather than a lobby of 5-6. I hope I'm around to see the curtains close, the final DLC. Sadly though, it's just becoming harder to enjoy the game.
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Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:54 AM

If R* released your lemonade stand DLC but the payouts were higher than any other existing business I bet you'd claim it's the best update ever... even if you litteraly had to just stand around selling million dollar cups of juice all day.


Yes, if the Lemonade Stand DLC came out, and you could make $450,000 per hour from it and it was half enjoyable, absolutely it would be the best DLC. But I'd be happy with something that's just worth our time, not like Bikers or the recent Smugglers Cum operation with a middle aged crack head taking a cut from an already piss-weak payout. $50k for an air crate, not $10k. Starting to taste that piss again R*...

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 02:16 PM

As long as I'm using the Hunter for the Hunter supply mission and then the hydra/savage/buzzard for the rest of missions (I personally don't like using the provided aircraft as it takes much longer), I find the new fetch quests pretty fun. I'm sure I'd get bored after another week or so. There's also no cost to source new supplies and Ron's cut is minimal upon selling.

Not the greatest, I still love I/E most but not going to hate on this update to the point I compare it to my man goo.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 02:18 PM

Damn OP, I almost cut myself on that edge of yours.

As someone who enjoys new content and doesn't waste time on the endless grind, I have to say no. Rockstar is still one of my favorite game developers.

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:59 PM

I am lost.....

I NEED AN ADULT!!!!!

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Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:47 PM

Yes, it's reconfirmed to me that Rockstar is the greatest ever.

 

 

Seriously though.....I paid $60 for a game I'm still playing on a near daily basis 4-5 years later.  Okay technically I paid $120 b/c I bought the PS4 version too but you get the point. 

I bet my real life dollars invested vs time played is at pennies per hour at this point.   I love this game, they never promised me anything but single player, online mode, and heists.  They delivered all three.  The constant DLC's are just icing on the cake to me.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:17 AM Edited by zoso80, 09 September 2017 - 04:45 AM.

Excellent post. 

 

Mmmm. Lemonade.

 

Seriously though, Some people are easy to please. R* serves up repetitive crap, rehashed game modes and high priced non-GTA content and graft it in and people stroke R*'s little winkie.  Standards are indeed at an all time low.

 

R* is great at one thing, getting the fanbois to buy into the rubbish. Greatest Dev? That's rich, while they bilk you with third rate content. Dirty secret GTA:O is as you said, a cash grab and counts on low standards from fanbois and PEWPEWPEW types who give 'em a gun and some lube and their happy..

 

It's reaffirmed to me R* is genius at manipulating people into thinking wasting real money for fake digital money is a remotely sane idea.  Meanwhile, they don't even have to make anything good. Just dump in high priced things to wank to. 

 

Great for business, but it's sh*t gaming.  Can't wait to see how they monetize RDR. Oh it's going to be epic salt when it drops.

 

I did go from annoyance with how the franchise has been getting pissed on to disgust. I've not even loaded the game since the morning of SR.  f*ck GTA: Candy Crush with expensive and explosive toys for PEWPEWPEWPEW types to gyrate to. Meanwhile, gameplay effort is nearly non-existant. Thus, I went from tolerating it and playing to walked away and done with it.

 

On a positive, digging Just Cause 3.

 

 

I mean, if you didn't know it was all a cash-grab before SR, you probably won't notice afterwards either.

 

If everything from Smugglers Run disappeared from the game overnight, I'd probably take me at least a week to notice, and even then I wouldn't be able to muster up a single flying f* about it. 

 

I won't lie though, I'd honestly be more excited about Lemonade Stand DLC... that sounds kinda fun, setting up your own stand in hostile territory, having to defend it while NPCs flock around to get some of your sweet sweet nectar, destroying other lemonade stands with sticky bombs to increase the profits of your own. Oh my god, this would make my day.


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:23 AM Edited by gtafan26, 09 September 2017 - 04:24 AM.

No, my opinion of them was made up a few years ago, these last two Shark Card sale pushes solidified that opinion.  

 

Lemonade stand DLC?, I would play the sh*t outa that .

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 07:58 AM

In short no, it hasn't.

Don't get me wrong, in the most part I like this update, the pay out is sh*t, but I like most of the content.

But, R* are currently on a level with the likes of EA, unashamedly greedy b*stards. The blatant pay walls, cash grabs and general nickel and dime treatment of the fan base really isn't necessary.

Just about the only thing that could raise my opinion of R* is a correcting of the wrongful bans, character resets, money wipes etc. that they seem to roll out indiscriminately and refuse to rectify.

The only reason I still play GTAO, other than the time I've put into the game, is that there isn't a viable alternative, a fact that I'm sure R* and T2 are more than aware of.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 01:07 PM

The only reason I still play GTAO, other than the time I've put into the game, is that there isn't a viable alternative, a fact that I'm sure R* and T2 are more than aware of.


True that. Smugglers Cum has actually changed my approach to GTAO now. I used to be a collector. But I've become bitter and changed. Sold almost everything I don't use. With $25M, I have retired from grinding. I'm spending my time spreading death, destruction and disappointment all throughout the land. I will buy the Laser, so it can sit next to my Hydra. Together forever. Plus the Oppressor, my explosive sniper rounds, and I have all that I need to ensure city wide genocide. If future updates don't contain something incredible for annihilating people, I will gladly sit on the sidelines. In my Hydra, my Laser. Or Oppressor 😈

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 01:26 PM

 

My opinion of Rockstar tanked with Gunrunning. It wasn't about the cost,it was tightening up on public solo lobbies. I could grind enough to pay for any update as long as I can be left alone in a lobby to do it but Rockstar doesn't want us to make any money.I really like Import export but even then there were mean spirited things Rockstar put in to try and keep you from succeeding... but I'm not going to waste my time trying to make money in a lobby full of 12 year dipsh*ts or bullies.


True, I forgot about R* closing the door on an easy solo lobby. I find a small lobby, and bully people until they leave. When it says people are voting to kick me, I start up a Hostile Takeover. For the next 30 minutes, I don't go anywhere no matter how many people vote. And I keep bullying until the lobby is mine because I'm not grinding in a public lobby either. Having an option to start a solo lobby makes for a better experience and use of time for all concerned. Another technique around R* decision to cull solo lobbies, is to use an app on Android called 'Lag Switch'. But it can lose your connection entirely and see you back in single player. And everyones experience with the app will be different. Near full lobbies are easier to drop out of rather than a lobby of 5-6. I hope I'm around to see the curtains close, the final DLC. Sadly though, it's just becoming harder to enjoy the game.

 

Which solo lobby method did they stop?


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Posted 09 September 2017 - 02:13 PM

I just really wish they fixed this game, added new stuff like wheels, custom lobby options, etc. But no, we get the same, old unnecessary PvP crap for the sole purpose of giving Rockstar more cash.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:28 PM

Which solo lobby method did they stop?


My knowledge is of the single race playlist.

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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:53 PM

Which solo lobby method did they stop?

My knowledge is of the single race playlist.

And the date method. B*astards!
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:58 PM

Sounds kinda B&M to me but anyways...

I found the SR update fun and surprisingly balanced...the new vehicles are diverse but none is any better than anything already in the game.

As for the new smuggling business itself?

The payout is quite low but is tied to the vehicle discounts which to me is a better idea than the GR update and the MOC missions since the MOC missions get little replay value despite being pretty fun.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 06:23 PM

Gun Running finally opened my eyes to their true colors lol

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