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Posted 05 September 2017 - 05:52 AM

I destory supplies for money and RP. Especially if i am unable to start VIP work. I mean its not only because i want money but i get text messages from agent 14 or Ron convincing me to destroy them. I know i get hate for doing so but rockstar promotes this act of destruction so much. First a screen pop up prompting us to do so and now contact text messages telling us about rival shipments.

 

I dont feel bad when i destroy shipments because i feel its part of the game. Its a red object on the map floating around. Great thing we can steal other peoples vehicle cargo and air freights. I never destroy vehicle cargo because i dont get anything out of it and may be a form of greifing.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:01 AM

Might as well accept every adversary mode invite from Martin too if you wanna play that "the game tells me to do it" bullsh*t.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:09 AM

Might as well accept every adversary mode invite from Martin too if you wanna play that "the game tells me to do it" buM

Martins lobbies are always empty. But with all the energy and persuasion for cargo destruction i wouldnt call it greifing

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:41 AM Edited by pooprope, 05 September 2017 - 06:48 AM.

You know you get a lot more selling felons every 45 min
2k for being a nob or 9k for mindin your own business.
But play how you like, who gives a poop.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 08:21 AM

So OP, would you cut your nuts off too if the game told ya to do it?

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 08:45 AM Edited by Big Molio, 05 September 2017 - 12:21 PM.

The game doesn't tell anyone to do anything, it invites them to.

 

The idea that players are "Doing what R* tells them to because they can't think for themselves" is a fallacy, and it is used by some as a pejorative to try and dissuade other players from attacking them.

 

"Destroy gunrunning supplies for cash and RP"

 

That isn't an executive order, nor an instruction. It is merely a notification of fact, with a prescribed activity and its outcome. It is also evidence of valid game play.

 

It is up to the player as to whether he accepts to undertake it or not. An executive order to carry it out would come with an inherent penalty for failing to do so.

 

It is grammatically identical to those advertisements you see in magazine supplements that read things like:-

 

"Collect all six issues to claim your free watch"

 

Again, that isn't a command or order, it's a notification, and merely an invite to take part in the promotion. 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:03 AM

Yes, I occasionally go after a shipment and steal it if it's nearby or I don't have much else to do.

 

Those expecting harmony in an online game stuffed to the gills with weaponry are deluded.  My guns aren't just for show.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:09 AM

I don't feel shame for it because I don't do it. I'm not going to become part of the problem just because I have an excuse to.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:34 AM

Since they are free to order there are less moral issues: I'm not destroying someone's balance as obviously as if I were destroying his IE exports or his CEO crates.

But they are such a hassle, and having my own crates blown a few times, it's sooooo infuriating.

I do it only if it's part of a revenge for some previous griefing/trolling/bad action towards me or a friend.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:42 AM

I dont feel bad when i destroy shipments

 

I don't feel bad when I destroy people that destroy shipments :D 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:42 AM

Destroying people's stuff is fun and part of the game, no matter how many people cry and call it 'griefing'
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:22 AM

Destroying people's stuff is fun and part of the game, no matter how many people cry and call it 'griefing'

Agreed.   Also, is everyone crying forgetting that you can defend yourself from attackers?   Having people attack you is part of it.   What's the point of being given a load of armoured vehicles if nobody ever attacks you?

 

If you can just drive A to B without anybody chasing you then where's the fun?  It's just a boring drive.   Some of the most heart-pounding moments I've had in the game recently have been when trying to deliver product or supplies with people chasing me down.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:23 AM Edited by Big Molio, 05 September 2017 - 11:24 AM.

Some of the most heart-pounding moments I've had in the game recently have been when trying to deliver product or supplies with people chasing me down.

 

We aim to please.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:28 AM

No. Survival of the fittest.
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:42 AM

Based on my experiences of supply runs, sales and any CEO/Biker work, people will come after you.

Sure, they don't travel halfway across the map to destroy your stuff but they will come for you if you are close enough.

Even with CEO work, fortified, leave the boxville in the open, someone will come and try their luck. Hostile takeover, someone will try their luck. Haulage, Exec Search, PP, Guns for Hire, POW, Cracked, whatever it is, there's always someone who will try their luck.

If someone is running fortified and has left the boxville unattended it's obvious they just want the quick (well 10 minute) $35k. To destroy it would be trolling, right? Yet in every session someone will go for it.

If someone leaves their yacht unattended during PP, they are doing so to earn a quick $30k but someone will always attempt to take it.

Why are supply runs and sales any different?

The majority of players in the majority of sessions that I have been in will attack. Some only when close to them, others will travel, few will travel 4+ miles though.

Since others do it to me, I'll do it to others. You try going near me on a sell, supply or any freeroam activity I'll respond the same way others do to me.

It's GTA not Carebears. Expect to get shot, expect to get your sh*t blown up, expect to get your sh*t stolen, expect to be up against hostile players. If you're in a public session you are asking for some competition. If you don't want to be up against other players, stick to invite only or glitch your ass to a solo session.

Do I feel guilty when I destroy or steal other peoples sh*t? Nope. 90% of the time they fire first anyway. If a non hostile player is heading for you and you shoot you deserve everything you get, you deserve that $1m+ sale to be destroyed. You deserve your grind to be a waste. You shot first.

This is what GTA Online is, and always has been (we wouldn't need to go passive before a heist if it was friendly - if you don't go passive you end up dead when you spawn back in with the randoms from the heist).

And we are back to this topic again... awesome...
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:32 PM

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:39 PM

I feel no shame at all. I destroy everyone's stuff all the time in my beautiful Hydra. They leave, I stay and get rich. Hydrape; it's fun for at least one player.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:41 PM Edited by Big Molio, 05 September 2017 - 12:41 PM.

I feel no shame at all. I destroy everyone's stuff all the time in my beautiful Hydra. They leave, I stay and get rich. Hydrape; it's fun for at least one player.

 

See it doesn't bother me. When that happens, my instinctive response would be to go and get my own Hydra, and try to blow you out of the sky in revenge lol. I tend not to be too upset about what is lost because all that is really lost is a bit of gaming time, and I'm playing anyway.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:50 PM

"rockstar tells me to do" is an excuse to hide behind for sure. I don't destroy crates as why would I do something I don't want done to me? It's hypocrisy... 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:52 PM Edited by TwistedDuke, 05 September 2017 - 01:00 PM.

I don't care that much, doesn't happen often enough, but I do get annoyed when people destroy my vehicle cargo as (unless I'm mistaken) there is no reward for them, it's just wasting my time.

That said, getting a vehicle or cargo to the destination while avoiding attacks does make it more satisfying at the end. Swings and roundabouts. 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 12:54 PM

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?
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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

 

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?

 

 

There's a certain enjoyment to be gained from the grind itself. People like me who play games like Elite Dangerous are like that. Some take pleasure in the monotony of it all. Though, admittedly, I'm the type who can only do it with a good reward at the end, like the new vehicles for example.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:15 PM Edited by redamed9292, 05 September 2017 - 01:16 PM.

 

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?

 

well first of all it's not a glitch and i don't do it to grind,i do it because people are c*unts for no reason.yesterday i got kicked for nothing,because someone got butthurt,the next session some oppressor thought that blowing a cargobob is fun.and this during missions.i do it because of people 

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:19 PM

 

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?

 

That's the part where they claim they want a Hydra to fly from A to B, or because they like the look of the interior, or something equally inane.

 

Complaining about being killed in GTA is like complaining that somebody shot you in Call Of Duty.   It's a game loaded with weaponry that actively encourages you to use it against other players.   What are these people expecting, musical chairs and pass the parcel?!


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:23 PM

 

 

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?

 

That's the part where they claim they want a Hydra to fly from A to B, or because they like the look of the interior, or something equally inane.

 

Complaining about being killed in GTA is like complaining that somebody shot you in Call Of Duty.   It's a game loaded with weaponry that actively encourages you to use it against other players.   What are these people expecting, musical chairs and pass the parcel?!

 

what did you gain from blowing a cargobob? someone's car?inviting your friend to a session so you can kick the other person? ABSOLUTELY F*CK ALL. what did i gain from doing that?peace

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:23 PM

No a true griefer has no guilt :oD


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:36 PM

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?

well first of all it's not a glitch and i don't do it to grind,i do it because people are c*unts for no reason.yesterday i got kicked for nothing,because someone got butthurt,the next session some oppressor thought that blowing a cargobob is fun.and this during missions.i do it because of people


First of all it is a glitch. You can try the bullsh*t all you like but entering a solo public session is either a glitch manipulating network connections or your network is severely broken. Based on your response your network is fine therefore you glitch your way to a solo session. Hey, I don't care that you do it, I don't judge you for doing so but don't claim it's not a glitch when there is no option for a solo public session.

You got kicked for nothing, because someone got butthurt? How did they get butthurt? You did something to cause them to get butthurt. Or you landed in a crew controlled session. You cannot be kicked by a single person.

Then you complain because someone did something and you are butthurt. Do you see the irony here?

I know why people glitch to solo sessions or abuse the kick feature. What I questioned is why they need to grind/earn money if they want to play alone/cooperatively. I/E's special vehicles are restricted to freeroam. SR planes take a long time to get in missions so are pretty much freeroam only. GR vehicles, contact missions sure but heists, some are restricted so are freeroam weapons. You want these why? To protect your solo sessions from who? Or to use against others in public, the same people you complain about and glitch to avoid, right?

Or have I missed something?

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:45 PM

 

 

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?

 

That's the part where they claim they want a Hydra to fly from A to B, or because they like the look of the interior, or something equally inane.

 

Complaining about being killed in GTA is like complaining that somebody shot you in Call Of Duty.   It's a game loaded with weaponry that actively encourages you to use it against other players.   What are these people expecting, musical chairs and pass the parcel?!

 

 

The thing is, GTA isn't like that. It's not a deathmatch game, killing other players isn't the absolute main goal. GTA is a great game to just chill out and do missions with your mates in. The biggest issue is they actively try to stop that, by limiting the amount of things people can do in private sessions. If they hadn't have done that, both sides of the argument could have been happy. But instead, we're forced to be murdered by potatoes in untouchable fighter jets ruining multiple peoples good times for the sake of it, and the same with people who kill you then go into passive mode, or repeatedly kill themselves so that you can't kill them to preserve their K/D because their sad little ego would shatter if it was ruined. See, I'm getting annoyed just thinking about it.

 

My point is, all a lot of people want to do is hop on GTA with some mates, do some missions, have a good time and a laugh. But the average GTA player couldn't be civil at a funeral, so a good time becomes a bad one. It's not that hard to imagine why people get so pissed, is it?

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:47 PM

 

 

 

^and that's why i am using the MTU trick .no ball breakers,nothing.


So you play solo on a multiplayer game? Or, have converted a multiplayer game to a single player one. Which brings up questions as to why you need money. Grind to earn money to buy the latest OP toys, which you will never use. Or grind to earn money for what exactly?

That's the thing I get stuck on. People glitch to solo sessions to grind for money to buy the latest weaponised vehicles, molotok, rogue, eventually hunter etc. but for what purpose?

 

well first of all it's not a glitch and i don't do it to grind,i do it because people are c*unts for no reason.yesterday i got kicked for nothing,because someone got butthurt,the next session some oppressor thought that blowing a cargobob is fun.and this during missions.i do it because of people

 


First of all it is a glitch. You can try the bullsh*t all you like but entering a solo public session is either a glitch manipulating network connections or your network is severely broken. Based on your response your network is fine therefore you glitch your way to a solo session. Hey, I don't care that you do it, I don't judge you for doing so but don't claim it's not a glitch when there is no option for a solo public session.

You got kicked for nothing, because someone got butthurt? How did they get butthurt? You did something to cause them to get butthurt. Or you landed in a crew controlled session. You cannot be kicked by a single person.

Then you complain because someone did something and you are butthurt. Do you see the irony here?

I know why people glitch to solo sessions or abuse the kick feature. What I questioned is why they need to grind/earn money if they want to play alone/cooperatively. I/E's special vehicles are restricted to freeroam. SR planes take a long time to get in missions so are pretty much freeroam only. GR vehicles, contact missions sure but heists, some are restricted so are freeroam weapons. You want these why? To protect your solo sessions from who? Or to use against others in public, the same people you complain about and glitch to avoid, right?

Or have I missed something?

 

it's not a glitch.it's not even game -related.you set it in your connection settings.how is doing that a glitch? manipulating=setting up a custom connection? really? that's a glitch?really?

the someone doing something is why i am doing it.i am doing it because people are c*unts.how is that diffuclt to understand?I/E has nothing to do it because if there's no one in the session you get the npcs.so that's out of the equation.i never attacked a moron.all i want is peace.even if i didn't have the warehouse and all that i would do it because people are morons

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 01:55 PM

it's not a glitch.it's not even game -related.you set it in your connection settings.how is doing that a glitch? manipulating=setting up a custom connection? really? that's a glitch?really?

 

 

Of course it is a glitch. What you are doing is deliberately contriving a solo lobby by manipulating your connection to the internet. That isn't an intended game feature yet, and any arrival in solo lobbies is thus down to connectivity issues, accidental or deliberate.

 

What you are doing is exploiting that to gain a favourable lobby (i.e. an empty one) to your advantage.

 

Can't be denied otherwise.





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